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Group: streetfighter Message: 4807 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4808 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4809 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Question for the next WP
Group: streetfighter Message: 4810 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4811 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
Group: streetfighter Message: 4812 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
Group: streetfighter Message: 4813 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4814 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4815 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4816 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4817 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
Group: streetfighter Message: 4818 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4819 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4820 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4821 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4822 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4823 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4824 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: What I do when finish this tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4825 From: Andy Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4826 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4827 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4828 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
Group: streetfighter Message: 4829 From: Andy Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4830 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4831 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4832 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4833 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Levi before her fight against Blaise.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4834 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4835 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4836 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Unknowledge before fight against Dark Hope.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4837 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Fighters oppening scenes.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4838 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4839 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4840 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4841 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4842 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4843 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4844 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4845 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
Group: streetfighter Message: 4846 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/23/1999
Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
Group: streetfighter Message: 4847 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
Group: streetfighter Message: 4848 From: J.J. Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
Group: streetfighter Message: 4849 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4850 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: Other Kung Fu.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4851 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: The Santa Claus Challenge.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4852 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/24/1999
Subject: Holidays
Group: streetfighter Message: 4853 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/25/1999
Subject: Re: Holidays
Group: streetfighter Message: 4854 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
Group: streetfighter Message: 4855 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
Subject: Re: Holidays
Group: streetfighter Message: 4856 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
Subject: Re: Holidays



Group: streetfighter Message: 4807 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
In a message dated 12/21/99 8:32:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lancer1@... writes:

<< Does anyone know just -what- Cody's fighting style is? >>
i was under the impression that Cody's style was a variant of Guy's ninjitsu
style... maybe i'm wrong
Group: streetfighter Message: 4808 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
>i was under the impression that Cody's style was a variant of Guy's
ninjitsu
>style... maybe i'm wrong


I'm not so sure of that. Guy's supposed to be the last Bushin ninja (at
least I think he is supposed to be), and Cody seems to be pretty different.
But then again, Cody in SFA3 doesn't even seem to use the same fighting
style as he did in Final Fight. I can understand him being more muscular
then he was in Final Fight...that probably came by working out in prison. I
have a tendency to think that Cody studies some form of Karate, but I'm not
sure.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4809 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Question for the next WP
For the next issue of Warrior's Pride, I'm going to write an article dealing
with Animal Hybrids, and putting some details into specific character types.
This will probably take me awhile to write, but I would like to ask everyone
if there's any particular type of animal they would like me to work on?
Thanks for the time.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4810 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
No I don´t think so his movements are so diferent from karate maybe he is only a brawler style you known that type who knows a litle about many styles resuming he can buy manuvers with "any" in power points costs.

Dustin Wolfe wrote:

>i was under the impression that Cody's style was a variant of Guy's
ninjitsu
>style... maybe i'm wrong

I'm not so sure of that. Guy's supposed to be the last Bushin ninja (at
least I think he is supposed to be), and Cody seems to be pretty different.
But then again, Cody in SFA3 doesn't even seem to use the same fighting
style as he did in Final Fight. I can understand him being more muscular
then he was in Final Fight...that probably came by working out in prison. I
have a tendency to think that Cody studies some form of Karate, but I'm not
sure.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4811 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
You put cyborgs and elementals too, this a great help, but if it don´t bother you.

Dustin Wolfe wrote:

> For the next issue of Warrior's Pride, I'm going to write an article dealing
> with Animal Hybrids, and putting some details into specific character types.
> This will probably take me awhile to write, but I would like to ask everyone
> if there's any particular type of animal they would like me to work on?
> Thanks for the time.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4812 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
Spiders, Snakes and maybe Tigers and a good and remember Arkon fighter a rabbit.

Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

You put cyborgs and elementals too, this a great help, but if it don´t bother you.

Dustin Wolfe wrote:

> For the next issue of Warrior's Pride, I'm going to write an article dealing
> with Animal Hybrids, and putting some details into specific character types.
> This will probably take me awhile to write, but I would like to ask everyone
> if there's any particular type of animal they would like me to work on?
> Thanks for the time.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4813 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Attachments :
    I was *just* thinking about this not five minutes ago.  I believe in Final Fight his style wasn't named, so I just considered it 'street fighting', seeing as how he used traditional brawling techniques and weapons (knives).  When I was in the process of converting Cody for my campaign, I decided to make him a Western Kickboxer without a lot of flashy moves; it's a good "fallback" style.  But before I finished my conversion I wound up in the possession of Alpha 3.  So I decided that Cody added a few moves from Jailhouse Rock to his repetoire before the 'big break', as it were.
     
    Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of?  I've only had time to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of them.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dustin Wolfe [mailto:lancer1@webzone.net]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:21 PM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    That brings up something I've been wondering about. Does anyone know just -what- Cody's fighting style is? Even though he his stage -is- during a jailbreak, and he is wearing the prison stripes, his style can't be a prison style. After all, he was fighting in Final Fight, and that happened before SFA3. Not just in real life, but also in the storyline.
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:50 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    If you have the info, I just belive but I don´t have any know about Jailhouse Rock style for true thing I make this style yesterday at night after play some STF 03 with Cody, but at last the history is a litle original don´t you think, and a question you known how much power points Chi Kung Healing cost to Baraqah style, I thank you if you known and can you send the Jailhouse Rock for I can see it, I can´t belive in coincidence but if you say this much similar I want see it for myself, thanks.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     Yea, but a lot of the maneuvers seem to be the same.  I compared the photos of Jailhouse Rock I have to the maneuver list for your style and there's a lot of similarities.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:31 PM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock this one have his history too, but the objective of both styles are different one for another.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
    primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
    action...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

    I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
    at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
    tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
    be acept if the player want this.

    Criminal Prison Style:

    This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
    well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
    prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
    other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
    just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
    control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
    the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
    who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
    his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
    vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
    happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
    confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
    punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
    another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
    things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
    retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
    now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
    he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
    have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
    but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
    many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
    crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
    open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
    are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
    Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
    Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
    make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
    good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
    manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
    Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
    defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

    Chi 1 Willpower 6
    School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
    New York, with Hamlet group.
    Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
    Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
    make a political discution?"

    Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
    (2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
    Punch (4pt)
    Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
    Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
    (1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
    Ruffian Kick (3pt)
    Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
    Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
    (2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
    (2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
    Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

     Block: Common manuvers.
     Focus: Common manuvers.

     New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
    it.

    RUFFIAN KICK
    REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
    POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
    Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
    SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
    following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
    opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
    COST: 1 Willpower
    SPEED: +1
    DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
    MOVE: +1

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4814 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
     
     
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4815 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are loads of them in American prisons.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
     
     

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4816 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Sorry I forgot to ask where I can send some colaboration

    Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea,where I can send some colaboration for this stuff:?
     
     



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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4817 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
    --- Dustin Wolfe <lancer1@...> wrote:
    >
    > For the next issue of Warrior's Pride, I'm going to write an article
    > dealing
    > with Animal Hybrids, and putting some details into specific character
    > types.
    > This will probably take me awhile to write, but I would like to ask
    > everyone
    > if there's any particular type of animal they would like me to work on?
    > Thanks for the time.

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4818 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
        You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.

    Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I think is only in the start after this going to black gangs of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This my idea about this style the real history may be different of my concern).

    Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa) and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a small group known this style and teach only for people who want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t seek the power in the prison.

    See have difference at last in background.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are loads of them in American prisons.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
     
    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
     
     
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4819 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)
     
    Your reason for creating the style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number (IE, riots).  It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was white, black, yellow, or puce.  Jailhouse Rock could be learned by anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most practitioners are black.  Just like you don't have to be from Brazil to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.
     
    In short, you're taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate, bad, or wrong.  I'm not.  I'm just noting that what you've come up with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.  Nothing more.  You should be taking it as a compliment, not a criticism.
     
    I'll shut up now.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

        You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.

    Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I think is only in the start after this going to black gangs of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This my idea about this style the real history may be different of my concern).

    Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa) and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a small group known this style and teach only for people who want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t seek the power in the prison.

    See have difference at last in background.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are loads of them in American prisons.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
     
    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
     
     

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4820 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Sorry if I understand wrong but my english leave sometimes to desire, my native tongue... If someone understand portuguese, but anyway you´re right but I just created this style because I like to play with Cody and nobody at this moment make a prison style but I don´t get offend I love discution like this because I see the other point of view from the people. About Capoeira is realy true now is more easier to learn it outside Brazil but the best still the best place other good place is Angola. And Steve thanks for explanation. I was wondering and what do you think a block for Rekka ken combo is legal I think is it but...

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)Your reason for creating the style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number (IE, riots).  It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was white, black, yellow, or puce.  Jailhouse Rock could be learned by anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most practitioners are black.  Just like you don't have to be from Brazil to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.In short, you're taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate, bad, or wrong.  I'm not.  I'm just noting that what you've come up with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.  Nothing more.  You should be taking it as a compliment, not a criticism.I'll shut up now.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
     
        You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.

    Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I think is only in the start after this going to black gangs of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This my idea about this style the real history may be different of my concern).

    Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa) and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a small group known this style and teach only for people who want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t seek the power in the prison.

    See have difference at last in background.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are loads of them in American prisons.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is exclusive for african american prisioners or I lost something? Now I remember where I heard that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom but it is a long time ago, but this another motive for create other prison style isn´t exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own style or have that flaw no style and buy his manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
     
     


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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4821 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Yep. It's perfectly legal.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:01 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.


    Sorry if I understand wrong but my english leave sometimes to desire, my
    native tongue... If someone understand portuguese, but anyway you´re
    right but I just created this style because I like to play with Cody and
    nobody at this moment make a prison style but I don´t get offend I love
    discution like this because I see the other point of view from the
    people. About Capoeira is realy true now is more easier to learn it
    outside Brazil but the best still the best place other good place is
    Angola. And Steve thanks for explanation. I was wondering and what do
    you think a block for Rekka ken combo is legal I think is it but...

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    > I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)Your reason for creating the
    > style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to
    > protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other
    > prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number
    > (IE, riots). It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was
    > white, black, yellow, or puce. Jailhouse Rock could be learned by
    > anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most
    > practitioners are black. Just like you don't have to be from Brazil
    > to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.In short, you're
    > taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate,
    > bad, or wrong. I'm not. I'm just noting that what you've come up
    > with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.
    > Nothing more. You should be taking it as a compliment, not a
    > criticism.I'll shut up now.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
    > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >
    > You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem
    > exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about
    > the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the
    > Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but
    > returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it
    > make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse
    > Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.
    >
    > Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self
    > defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I
    > think is only in the start after this going to black gangs
    > of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This
    > my idea about this style the real history may be different
    > of my concern).
    >
    > Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who
    > was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any
    > origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the
    > prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles
    > Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces
    > from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa)
    > and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners
    > from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a
    > small group known this style and teach only for people who
    > want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t
    > seek the power in the prison.
    >
    > See have difference at last in background.
    >
    > Steve Karstensen wrote:
    >
    > > Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American
    > > prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are
    > > loads of them in American prisons.
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Rinaldo Gambetta
    > > [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    > > But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is
    > > exclusive for african american prisioners or I
    > > lost something? Now I remember where I heard
    > > that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I
    > > don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom
    > > but it is a long time ago, but this another
    > > motive for create other prison style isn´t
    > > exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own
    > > style or have that flaw no style and buy his
    > > manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the
    > > Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an
    > > a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
    > >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4822 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Thanks for explain it.  A litle question about Hybrids and Cyborgs when they receive extra dot in psychal and how much he receive and what he lost?
    About Kung Fu, they´re have basic movements but some manuvers must be different, I just wait anyone make some variants of kung fu, and that´s weird but I don´t find any STF female player, curious thing?

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    Yep.  It's perfectly legal.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:01 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    Sorry if I understand wrong but my english leave sometimes to desire, my
    native tongue... If someone understand portuguese, but anyway you´re
    right but I just created this style because I like to play with Cody and
    nobody at this moment make a prison style but I don´t get offend I love
    discution like this because I see the other point of view from the
    people. About Capoeira is realy true now is more easier to learn it
    outside Brazil but the best still the best place other good place is
    Angola. And Steve thanks for explanation. I was wondering and what do
    you think a block for Rekka ken combo is legal I think is it but...

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)Your reason for creating the
    > style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to
    > protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other
    > prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number
    > (IE, riots).  It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was
    > white, black, yellow, or puce.  Jailhouse Rock could be learned by
    > anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most
    > practitioners are black.  Just like you don't have to be from Brazil
    > to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.In short, you're
    > taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate,
    > bad, or wrong.  I'm not.  I'm just noting that what you've come up
    > with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.
    > Nothing more.  You should be taking it as a compliment, not a
    > criticism.I'll shut up now.
    >
         -----Original Message-----
         From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
         Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
         To: streetfighter@egroups.com
         Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >
             You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem
         exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about
         the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the
         Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but
         returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it
         make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse
         Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.
    >
         Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self
         defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I
         think is only in the start after this going to black gangs
         of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This
         my idea about this style the real history may be different
         of my concern).
    >
         Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who
         was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any
         origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the
         prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles
         Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces
         from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa)
         and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners
         from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a
         small group known this style and teach only for people who
         want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t
         seek the power in the prison.
    >
         See have difference at last in background.
    >
         Steve Karstensen wrote:
    >
        > Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American
        > prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are
        > loads of them in American prisons.
        >
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Rinaldo Gambetta
            [mailto:rinaldo@...]
            Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
            To: streetfighter@egroups.com
            Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
            But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is
            exclusive for african american prisioners or I
            lost something? Now I remember where I heard
            that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I
            don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom
            but it is a long time ago, but this another
            motive for create other prison style isn´t
            exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own
            style or have that flaw no style and buy his
            manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the
            Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an
            a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
        >
        >
            >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4823 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    I've played with at least two women in my group.  One was a boxing nun, and switched to a special forces soldier later on.  The other started with a Capoeria dancer and then switched to a pro wrestler-turned-Street Fighter.  The first was quite good at the game.  The second was utterly clueless, but she tried.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:09 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    Thanks for explain it.  A litle question about Hybrids and Cyborgs when they receive extra dot in psychal and how much he receive and what he lost?
    About Kung Fu, they´re have basic movements but some manuvers must be different, I just wait anyone make some variants of kung fu, and that´s weird but I don´t find any STF female player, curious thing?

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    Yep.  It's perfectly legal.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:01 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    Sorry if I understand wrong but my english leave sometimes to desire, my
    native tongue... If someone understand portuguese, but anyway you´re
    right but I just created this style because I like to play with Cody and
    nobody at this moment make a prison style but I don´t get offend I love
    discution like this because I see the other point of view from the
    people. About Capoeira is realy true now is more easier to learn it
    outside Brazil but the best still the best place other good place is
    Angola. And Steve thanks for explanation. I was wondering and what do
    you think a block for Rekka ken combo is legal I think is it but...

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)Your reason for creating the
    > style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to
    > protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other
    > prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number
    > (IE, riots).  It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was
    > white, black, yellow, or puce.  Jailhouse Rock could be learned by
    > anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most
    > practitioners are black.  Just like you don't have to be from Brazil
    > to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.In short, you're
    > taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate,
    > bad, or wrong.  I'm not.  I'm just noting that what you've come up
    > with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.
    > Nothing more.  You should be taking it as a compliment, not a
    > criticism.I'll shut up now.
    >
         -----Original Message-----
         From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
         Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
         To: streetfighter@egroups.com
         Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >
             You got the point that one but I don´t see any problem
         exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about
         the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the
         Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but
         returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it
         make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse
         Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.
    >
         Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self
         defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I
         think is only in the start after this going to black gangs
         of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This
         my idea about this style the real history may be different
         of my concern).
    >
         Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who
         was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any
         origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the
         prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles
         Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces
         from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa)
         and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners
         from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a
         small group known this style and teach only for people who
         want pay his debit and going free without problems and don´t
         seek the power in the prison.
    >
         See have difference at last in background.
    >
         Steve Karstensen wrote:
    >
        > Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American
        > prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are
        > loads of them in American prisons.
        >
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Rinaldo Gambetta
            [mailto:rinaldo@...]
            Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
            To: streetfighter@egroups.com
            Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
            But you don´t have say Jailhouse Rock is
            exclusive for african american prisioners or I
            lost something? Now I remember where I heard
            that Jailhouse Rock it´s from a discution from I
            don´t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom
            but it is a long time ago, but this another
            motive for create other prison style isn´t
            exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own
            style or have that flaw no style and buy his
            manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the
            Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an
            a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
        >
        >
            >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4824 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: What I do when finish this tournament.
    People don´t worry the Gateway tournament will be happen in the date of
    1/1/2000. I want make more tournaments maybe more powerfull figthers but
    this will be happen in a timeline: 1987- I choice this year not for a
    coincidence but this the year of the good film and my favourite in
    martial arts films "Bloodsport" the other reason STF I don´t be made yet
    and in this tournament all fighters have their own history and don´t get
    offend anyone but anymore plots come from Bison, Ryu, Gouken, Gouki
    (Akuma), Ken or other Stf figthers this like Kumite, but this a future
    project but at last I try make more roleplaying in this..
    Title- I don´t think about it yet.
    Place- I love Hong Kong- But where a tournament like this can be happen.

    Rank of figthters- Waiting sugestions.
    When happen- Not now but real soon.

    Well folks that´s all thanks for reading this.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4825 From: Andy Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
     
    According to the Vauge-at-best story discript, in Alpha 3 Cody wass incarserated for excessive fighting. This doesn't make perfect sense, as there are a BUNCH of Street Fighters, and they normally are able to avoid getting caught. Also, i'd imagine Hagar would be sympathetic and manage to help him out. There are lots o' little hints in his dialog especialy with Guy, that indicate that Cody went off teh deep end. I don't know quite what to make of it.
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:50 AM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

     
    Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of?  I've only had time to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of them.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4826 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    maybe Haggar knows Cody is in jail and has refused to help.  After all, Cody's fighting style in Alpha 3 leaves something to be desired in the Honor department... especially that "dirt toss" maneuver.  Hagger probably thought a few months in the clink would teach the little pecker a lesson.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:34 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

     
    According to the Vauge-at-best story discript, in Alpha 3 Cody wass incarserated for excessive fighting. This doesn't make perfect sense, as there are a BUNCH of Street Fighters, and they normally are able to avoid getting caught. Also, i'd imagine Hagar would be sympathetic and manage to help him out. There are lots o' little hints in his dialog especialy with Guy, that indicate that Cody went off teh deep end. I don't know quite what to make of it.
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:50 AM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

     
    Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of?  I've only had time to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of them.

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4827 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Steve Karstensen

    > Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of? I've only had time
    > to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of them.

    I read somewhere that is was for the murder (or possibly manslaughter) of
    the Final Fight 3 boss (who's name escapes me). I have no idea where I
    read that though.

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4828 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: Question for the next WP
    >You put cyborgs and elementals too, this a great help, but if it don´t
    bother you.


    I'm sure that I'll get to cyborgs and elementals eventually, but this
    article will just focus on animal hybrids.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4829 From: Andy Date: 12/22/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Unlikley...
    The Boss of Final Fight three in Japan, is Rolento....who does indeed bite
    the big one, in the end. In america they call him a code name (like snake
    king or somehing,,,) but it's pretty obvious who it is. Barett and rod in
    hand. Manslaughter is indeed possible, none the less.



    >
    > > Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of? I've only had time
    > > to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of them.
    >
    > I read somewhere that is was for the murder (or possibly manslaughter) of
    > the Final Fight 3 boss (who's name escapes me). I have no idea where I
    > read that though.
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4830 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Interesting point. I've had one female player in my group, and she's been
    one of my most steadfast players.


    >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:14:48 -0500
    >
    >I've played with at least two women in my group. One was a boxing nun, and
    >switched to a special forces soldier later on. The other started with a
    >Capoeria dancer and then switched to a pro wrestler-turned-Street Fighter.
    >The first was quite good at the game. The second was utterly clueless, but
    >she tried.
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
    >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:09 AM
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >
    >
    >Thanks for explain it. A litle question about Hybrids and Cyborgs when
    >they
    >receive extra dot in psychal and how much he receive and what he lost?
    >About Kung Fu, they�re have basic movements but some manuvers must be
    >different, I just wait anyone make some variants of kung fu, and that�s
    >weird but I don�t find any STF female player, curious thing?
    >
    >Steve Karstensen wrote:
    >
    >
    >Yep. It's perfectly legal.
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Rinaldo Gambetta [ mailto:rinaldo@...
    ><mailto:rinaldo@...> ]
    >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:01 AM
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >
    >
    >Sorry if I understand wrong but my english leave sometimes to desire, my
    >native tongue... If someone understand portuguese, but anyway you�re
    >right but I just created this style because I like to play with Cody and
    >nobody at this moment make a prison style but I don�t get offend I love
    >discution like this because I see the other point of view from the
    >people. About Capoeira is realy true now is more easier to learn it
    >outside Brazil but the best still the best place other good place is
    >Angola. And Steve thanks for explanation. I was wondering and what do
    >you think a block for Rekka ken combo is legal I think is it but...
    >
    >
    >Steve Karstensen wrote:
    >
    >
    > > I hate to annoy you, but here goes. ;)Your reason for creating the
    > > style is the same reason the real Jailhouse Rock was created; to
    > > protect a prisoner from attacks by multiple assailants (other
    > > prisoners or guards) who could attack at any time and in any number
    > > (IE, riots). It had nothing to do with whether the attacker was
    > > white, black, yellow, or puce. Jailhouse Rock could be learned by
    > > anyone, it just so happens that since most prisoners are black, most
    > > practitioners are black. Just like you don't have to be from Brazil
    > > to know Capoeira, but most Capoeiristas are Brazilian.In short, you're
    > > taking my information to mean that what you've created is innacurate,
    > > bad, or wrong. I'm not. I'm just noting that what you've come up
    > > with is actually pretty close to a little-known, real-life style.
    > > Nothing more. You should be taking it as a compliment, not a
    > > criticism.I'll shut up now.
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [ mailto:rinaldo@...
    ><mailto:rinaldo@...> ]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:14 AM
    > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    > >
    > > You got the point that one but I don�t see any problem
    > > exist two prison styles, or why anyone give opinion about
    > > the many variety of Kung Fu (I known this is your area) the
    > > Stf book only write one and I think this much generic, but
    > > returning to Jailhouse Rock why the prisoners created it
    > > make a compare with mine. Manuvers when I have the Jailhouse
    > > Rock manuvers list I can make some compare with it.
    > >
    > > Jailhouse Rock: Created by afro american prisioners to self
    > > defense against white guards and other prisioners but this I
    > > think is only in the start after this going to black gangs
    > > of prision who make wars for control of prision world (This
    > > my idea about this style the real history may be different
    > > of my concern).
    > >
    > > Criminal Prison Style: Created by a retired green beret who
    > > was under arrest with colaboration of other prisioners (any
    > > origin) for only purpose of defend theirselves against the
    > > prisioners gangs and their bosses, like much commom styles
    > > Criminal Prision Style have manuvers from Special Forces
    > > from that former green beret, boxing (common style in Usa)
    > > and Wrestiling another common style from other prisioners
    > > from that small group, different of Jailhouse Rock is only a
    > > small group known this style and teach only for people who
    > > want pay his debit and going free without problems and don�t
    > > seek the power in the prison.
    > >
    > > See have difference at last in background.
    > >
    > > Steve Karstensen wrote:
    > >
    > > > Jailhouse rock is more common among African-American
    > > > prisoners, but I'd wager that's only because there are
    > > > loads of them in American prisons.
    > > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: Rinaldo Gambetta
    > > > [ mailto:rinaldo@... <mailto:rinaldo@...>
    >]
    >
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:12 AM
    > > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    > > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    > > > But you don�t have say Jailhouse Rock is
    > > > exclusive for african american prisioners or I
    > > > lost something? Now I remember where I heard
    > > > that Jailhouse Rock it�s from a discution from I
    > > > don�t known if is you with Kristofer Lumdstrom
    > > > but it is a long time ago, but this another
    > > > motive for create other prison style isn�t
    > > > exclusive but for all. For me Cody have his own
    > > > style or have that flaw no style and buy his
    > > > manuvers from that ones listed "any". I read the
    > > > Warriors Pride is very good but how if I have an
    > > > a idea, send some colaboration for this stuff.
    > > >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4831 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    Cody isn't even -in- Final Fight 3. Haggar is, of course, and he's rejoined
    by Guy. Two more characters are playable, a police detective named Lucia and
    an ex-Streetfighter named Dean. And I think it's unlikely that the final bos
    in FF3 is Rolento...he's much too large, and I seem to remember him wearing
    a business suit. When you hit him for the last time, he gets knocked into
    one of those power distrubution things and he fries.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andy <dlatrex@...>
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:36 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.


    >Unlikley...
    >The Boss of Final Fight three in Japan, is Rolento....who does indeed bite
    >the big one, in the end. In america they call him a code name (like snake
    >king or somehing,,,) but it's pretty obvious who it is. Barett and rod in
    >hand. Manslaughter is indeed possible, none the less.
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >> > Side note; what, exactly, was Cody convicted of? I've only had time
    >> > to beat Alpha 3 with about five characters, and Cody wasn't one of
    them.
    >>
    >> I read somewhere that is was for the murder (or possibly manslaughter) of
    >> the Final Fight 3 boss (who's name escapes me). I have no idea where I
    >> read that though.
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4832 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    In a message dated 12/22/99 11:46:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
    skarstensen@... writes:

    << Cody's fighting style in Alpha 3 leaves something to be desired in the
    Honor
    department... especially that "dirt toss" maneuver >>
    and what about his one super that re-does his old inifinite hit combo thing,
    where you would hit the guy twice, turn around, turn back, hit him twice
    more, forever... talk about wrong!!! i love that move...
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4833 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Levi before her fight against Blaise.
    Blaise: "All this tough talk...it's completely boring, sweetcheeks...just
    shut up and fight."


    >From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Levi before her fight against Blaise.
    >Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:51:31 -0200
    >
    >Levi- Your skill don�t save you from my attacks.
    >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4834 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    I have to agree here. Cody in Final Fight had a bit of a hybrid of Karate
    and Boxing, or at least it seemed that way. Even his rapid three-hit attack
    (or was it more?) was a Jab, Straight, and Uppercut. Hmm...Western
    Kickboxing, maybe? At any rate, I'd say it's pretty reasonable to assume
    that he would have picked up a few new tricks having spent time in prison
    and all. Hell, one of his moves is a direct conversion from FF...the knife
    anyone?


    >From: "Dustin Wolfe" <lancer1@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:54:02 -0600
    >
    > >i was under the impression that Cody's style was a variant of Guy's
    >ninjitsu
    > >style... maybe i'm wrong
    >
    >
    >I'm not so sure of that. Guy's supposed to be the last Bushin ninja (at
    >least I think he is supposed to be), and Cody seems to be pretty different.
    >But then again, Cody in SFA3 doesn't even seem to use the same fighting
    >style as he did in Final Fight. I can understand him being more muscular
    >then he was in Final Fight...that probably came by working out in prison. I
    >have a tendency to think that Cody studies some form of Karate, but I'm not
    >sure.
    >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4835 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    Thanks for the advice, but I do, in fact, know the rules inside the books
    and out of them. That wasn't the problem. It was situational things, like
    a rules call for a getaway chase, or exactly how high he could jump...things
    like that.


    >From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
    >Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:58:14 -0500
    >
    >Hmmm.....problems with a resident Law major in the group? I've had the woes
    >of all Story Tellers, As I do have a lawyer (happens to be my brother) and
    >a
    >player that is ALWAYS parinoied that I am out to get him.
    >But these to rolled into one?
    >Hmmm.. that's hard.
    >
    >As far as his arguing against your rulings are concerned, you need to make
    >sure that Three things are in order first, and then you can use the Rules
    >of
    >roleplaying:
    >
    >A. You need to make sure that you have an INTIMATE knowledge of all the
    >books, and all the rules. If you're a beginner GM, and there's a
    >experienced
    >role-player, then he's gonna walk all over you to get what's coming to him.
    >
    >B. You need to make sure that all of your decisions are fair. Just ask
    >the other role players, shouldn't be to hard to do. Regardless of how much
    >they enrage you, you can't lash out at them in anger (well.....maybe a
    >little), you can only let them reap the concequences of their actions. Just
    >make sure that there ARE concequences.
    >
    >C. You need to make sure that the game stays fun for EVEYONE! They tell you
    >this everywhere, and it IS true.
    >
    >After you have all of these things down pat, you can put into action the
    >Ultimate Rules of Role-Playing.
    >These rules were created long ago, when role players were upset and
    >threatened to revolt against the GM. In turn the GM wanted to leave the
    >group. They comprimised and as a result we got these two rules.
    >
    >RULE #1: The Game Master is always right.
    >
    >This rule should be applied any time there is dissention amoung the group,
    >and whenever there is a vauge point that the books fail to talk about.
    >For all other conditions and situations that are encountered then apply
    >rule
    >two.
    >
    >RULE #2: See rule number one.
    >
    >As far as having an overpowered gamer in the group goes, I'd highly suggest
    >checking out Steve's Site. He's got some pages dedicated to toppeling
    >overpowered characters. Over all I think he has the best page for GM
    >advice.
    >You might stop by Crazy Chris H.'s place also.....
    >
    >
    >Andy
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4836 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Unknowledge before fight against Dark Hope.

    Dark Hope: Dark Chi! You now nothing of Dark Chi. I will show you the true meaning of the dark path then I will remove you from it.

    Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:

    Unknowledge- Your spirit have the rigth path but your method to explore
    it is pathetic you�re nothing against Dark chi powers, return to your
    cave now or you be destroyed.


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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4837 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Fighters oppening scenes.
    I read that part in mainbook and there exist a full description of the
    oppening of all World Warriors, why not I make a oppening scene for all
    npc´s this could be fun others figthers have one too. And don´t forget
    1/1/2000.


    Key groups

    A group:

    Pierce Brennan style: Self-Defense country: Scotland player: (Npc)
    Oppening Scene: After his name called a man with a gray elegant suit
    move and enter in arena, remove his sunglasses and put it in the pocket
    he just adjust his tie and looking foward to see his opponent, close his
    left hand (He belivies his left hand is his luck hand) and prepare
    himself to fight. Quote for Howard Ng his first opponent: "Don´t think
    your funny screams and moves can save you from my fist.

    The Cleaner. (Charles Little)

    Chief Grass Walker style: Native American Wrestling country: Mexico
    player: (Npc) Oppening scene: The ground rumble when the giant american
    indian give his powerfull steps but he knowns size don´t win fights but
    it´s a start. Quote for the Cleaner: You can be fast but when I hit
    you...

    Howard Ng. (Donald Mcbain)

    B group:

    Charles Kraegar. (Mark Radic)

    Genryu Kai. (SlpStck@...)

    Jennifer O´Shea style: Capoeira country: Ireland player: (Npc) Oppening
    quote: With a high acrobatic jump and a perfect land Jennifer O´Shea
    enter in the arena waiting for her opponent she start the Capoeira dance
    when she see him. Quote for Genryu-Kai: Save your breath you can´t catch
    me.

    Johnny Invincible. (Downfall)

    C group:

    Unknowledge style: Dark Karate Shotokan country: Japan player: (Npc)
    Oppening scene: He walk to arena enter and his glowing red eyes turn
    around for his opponent. Quote for Dark Hope: You think you known the
    secrets of Dark Chi you going to see I show you how to use it.

    Van Gallen style: Western Kickboxing country: Holland player: (Npc)
    Oppening scene: The Holland guy just enter give few punches and kicks
    and send kisses for the girls of crowd. Quote for Danielle Garcia: Wow!
    Whate a babe... Ops, what I doing. Sorry miss but Van Gallen don´t kick
    woman butt why you give up and wait for me at the end of tournament? No,
    all right your ice freezer I will catch you with more caution.

    Dark Hope. (Clk Whrr Chad)

    Danielle Garcia.(Luiz)

    D group:

    Hotaru Seijuro. (ArkonDLoC@...)

    Lyn Kim Wong style: Tae Kwon Do country: South Korea player: (Npc)
    Oppening scene: The Korean girl enter in the arena with a Jumping short
    kick, and stay at same place make some kicks and wait her opponent.
    Quote for François: I don´t understimate you.

    Kozminski style: Tai Chi Chuan country: Poland player (Npc) Oppening
    scene: With a slow steps Kozminski enter in the arena and there he make
    some meditation when his oppenent arrive he look to him. Quote for
    Hotaru Seijuro: I already say all things I want, now let´s fight.

    François style: Savate country: France player: (Npc) Opponening scene:
    Enter in the arena make a quick series of jumps and kicks. Quote for Lyn
    Kim Wong: I don´t want talk.

    E group:

    Blaise.(Chris Krug Iron)

    Levi style: Kabbadi country: India player: (Npc) Oppening scene: Enter
    in the arena and stay at same place without movement and when opponent
    enter she look for his direction. Quote for Blaise: You can´t hit what
    you can´t reach.

    Artemis Steele (Josh Diemert)

    Yung Mai style: Wu Shu country: China player: (Npc) Oppening scene: Walk
    and just jump inside the arena when she see her opponent is another
    woman. Quote for Artemis Steele: Another woman here it´s no more a man´s
    game.

    F group:

    Ivan Guentchev style Special Forces country: Russia player: (Npc)
    Oppening scene: The russian enter and see his opponent and take his
    vodka bottle drink a litle and say. Quote for Whisper: A dammit coffe
    machine, wait this moves all rigth sorry for that but a last joke where
    is the coin slot?

    Whisper. (Azathoth05@...)

    Eian Howard. (Cliff Rice)

    Visage style: Ler Drit country: France player: (Npc) Oppening scene:
    Enter in the arena shake her head. Quote for Eian Howard: No talk.

    G group:

    Adam Ramsey.(Mike Morgado)
    Gokiwa. (Chris Hoffman)
    Tsui Hui. (Steve Karstensen)
    Mr.Military.(J.Scot Pittman)

    H group:

    Robert Pascuttini figther or Wing Sho (Npc)

    Ty Hong style: Muay Thai country: Thailand player (Npc) Oppening scene:
    Enter in the arena and start to pray his opponent arrive and he
    interrupt his prayers and say before stand up to fight. Quote for Aori
    Hitomi: I´m praying and hope you find a good and cheap hospital after
    this figth.

    Aori Hitomi style: Shotokan Karate country: Japan player: (Npc) Oppening
    scene: Enter in the arena and make a fight position. Quote for Ty Hong:
    none.

    Talon Master. (Andy)
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4838 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    Jump height is covered in the book. What the heck was he tryin' to pull on
    that one?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chris Krug-Iron [mailto:inrifrost@...]
    Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:21 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...


    Thanks for the advice, but I do, in fact, know the rules inside the books
    and out of them. That wasn't the problem. It was situational things, like
    a rules call for a getaway chase, or exactly how high he could jump...things

    like that.


    >From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
    >Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:58:14 -0500
    >
    >Hmmm.....problems with a resident Law major in the group? I've had the woes
    >of all Story Tellers, As I do have a lawyer (happens to be my brother) and
    >a
    >player that is ALWAYS parinoied that I am out to get him.
    >But these to rolled into one?
    >Hmmm.. that's hard.
    >
    >As far as his arguing against your rulings are concerned, you need to make
    >sure that Three things are in order first, and then you can use the Rules
    >of
    >roleplaying:
    >
    >A. You need to make sure that you have an INTIMATE knowledge of all the
    >books, and all the rules. If you're a beginner GM, and there's a
    >experienced
    >role-player, then he's gonna walk all over you to get what's coming to him.
    >
    >B. You need to make sure that all of your decisions are fair. Just ask
    >the other role players, shouldn't be to hard to do. Regardless of how much
    >they enrage you, you can't lash out at them in anger (well.....maybe a
    >little), you can only let them reap the concequences of their actions. Just
    >make sure that there ARE concequences.
    >
    >C. You need to make sure that the game stays fun for EVEYONE! They tell you
    >this everywhere, and it IS true.
    >
    >After you have all of these things down pat, you can put into action the
    >Ultimate Rules of Role-Playing.
    >These rules were created long ago, when role players were upset and
    >threatened to revolt against the GM. In turn the GM wanted to leave the
    >group. They comprimised and as a result we got these two rules.
    >
    >RULE #1: The Game Master is always right.
    >
    >This rule should be applied any time there is dissention amoung the group,
    >and whenever there is a vauge point that the books fail to talk about.
    >For all other conditions and situations that are encountered then apply
    >rule
    >two.
    >
    >RULE #2: See rule number one.
    >
    >As far as having an overpowered gamer in the group goes, I'd highly suggest
    >checking out Steve's Site. He's got some pages dedicated to toppeling
    >overpowered characters. Over all I think he has the best page for GM
    >advice.
    >You might stop by Crazy Chris H.'s place also.....
    >
    >
    >Andy
    >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4839 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    --- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:

    > Jump height is covered in the book. What the heck was he tryin' to pull
    > on
    > that one?

    Yeah, it's 3 ft. (or one meter) per dot in Athletics. Unless he was doing
    a wall spring, in which case, add six feet.

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4840 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    I have had a female role-player in our group going on 5 years now, she
    is better than most of them because she thinks before she acts, not
    saying my group is inexperienced, but she brings a lot of intelligence
    to the group. Now, 1 other thing, in streetfighter she is more viscious
    and savge than the rest of the players, cause streetfighting is
    basically a male dominated sport and we all can note a few exceptions.
    But, she is a special forces ex-navy seal, she has frenzy as a
    drawback. and she has a personalized finishing maneuver "Groin Kick
    Grapple" basiccallt she watched wrestling too much and copied Stone
    Cold Steve Austin's Stone Cold Stunner, except she kicks them in the
    groin in stead of a fake kick to the stomach.

    Groin Kick Grapple
    Requirements: Kick 3, Grab 3
    Power Point Cost: Brawling, Dirty-Fighting Style, Shootfighting,
    Special Forces, American Wrestling 2; Any 3
    Fighter does a snap kick to opponents groin, then turns arouns grab the
    opponents head on thier sholder and drop to the group using the
    opponents size against them.
    System: The kick works nearly like a Ear Pop, except this can only be
    blocked with Kick Defense or San He. No stamina can be used to soak the
    kick, and Grapple Defense can not be used to soak the grab. It cause a
    knockdown to anyone it hits and can be used to catch a jumping
    opponent, this will only kick a crouching opponent, and miss an
    opponent that is lying on the ground. The tatal damge fromboth hits are
    totaled to see if opponent is Dizzed. The turn after using the
    manuever, if the player taunts the fallen opponent then they have no
    penalty, if they fail to taunt, the lose 2 glory and 2 honor penalty.
    Cost: none
    Speed: -1
    Damage: +1 (kick) / +3 (grab)
    Move: TWO


    well thats it in a nutshell

    Gero
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4841 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    Dont forget vertical Rolling attack is varible by the characters
    athletics
    **A character using Vertical Rolling Attack can somersault four feet
    into the
    **air for every dot in Athletics (12 feet at Athletics 3, 16 feet at
    Athletics
    **4, etc.)

    Gero

    Chris Hoffman,
    your street fighter poage rocks, but where did ya old stuff go?

    chris hoffmann <staredow-@...> wrote:
    original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=4839
    > --- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Jump height is covered in the book. What the heck was he tryin' to
    pull
    > > on
    > > that one?
    >
    > Yeah, it's 3 ft. (or one meter) per dot in Athletics. Unless he was
    doing
    > a wall spring, in which case, add six feet.
    >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4842 From: gero24@hotmail.com Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    Dont forget vertical Rolling attack is varible by the characters
    athletics
    **A character using Vertical Rolling Attack can somersault four feet
    into the
    **air for every dot in Athletics (12 feet at Athletics 3, 16 feet at
    Athletics
    **4, etc.)

    Gero

    Chris Hoffman,
    your street fighter page rocks, but where did ya old stuff go?

    chris hoffmann <staredow-@...> wrote:
    original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=4839
    > --- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Jump height is covered in the book. What the heck was he tryin' to
    pull
    > > on
    > > that one?
    >
    > Yeah, it's 3 ft. (or one meter) per dot in Athletics. Unless he was
    doing
    > a wall spring, in which case, add six feet.
    >
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    >
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    > --we merely expect them to try."
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4843 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: New Style.
    "well thats it in a nutshell"

    ...no pun intended, right?
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4844 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    --- gero24@... wrote:

    > Dont forget vertical Rolling attack is varible by the characters
    > athletics
    > **A character using Vertical Rolling Attack can somersault four feet
    > into the
    > **air for every dot in Athletics (12 feet at Athletics 3, 16 feet at
    > Athletics
    > **4, etc.)
    >
    > Gero

    That one did slip my mind.

    > Chris Hoffman,
    > your street fighter poage rocks,

    Thanks.

    >but where did ya old stuff go?

    Eh? *nips off to Xoom to make sure that they didn't eat one of my
    webpages* Well, they all _seem_ to be there, what's missing?

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    --we merely expect them to try."
    -- Robert Heinlein
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4845 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
    This is a preview of the Animal Hybrid article that I mentioned in an
    earlier e-mail. The article, as you may have guessed from this mail's
    subject, the article will be titled "Call of the Wild." Anyways, this is
    just a quick preview of the "Alligator" listing. Remember, this is an early
    draft. The new special maneuver (Croc Roll) and the natural abilities are
    not described here; they will be presented in Warrior's Pride #3 along with
    the entire article. I would appreciate any feedback.

    Alligator
    Alligators are the largest reptile in North America, where they can be found
    in the rivers, lakes, and bayous of the southeastern United States.
    Alligators can also be found in the Yangtze River basin of China. They have
    a shorter and blunter snouth then thier cousin the crocodile. The teeth of
    the alligator are designed to tear and shed its victim, and its thick scales
    provide protection. Adult males typically reach from six to nine feet in
    length and about 250 pounds, though alligators can be as long as eighteen to
    twenty feet in length. The muscles used to open the jaws of the alligator
    are weaker then those used to snap the jaws shut, and it is as easy as using
    a somewhat thick rope to tie the jaws shut. When threatened, alligators will
    snap with its jaws, roll randomly, and lash out with its tail.

    Related Animals: Caiman, Crocodile

    Alligator Hybrids: A beastial alligator hybrid will feature a long snout, no
    exterior ears, a long tail, and a body covered with thick scales. A homid
    hybrid will feature a long body, small ears, and lumpy features. It is very
    likely that the hybrid will be completely hairless.

    Attributes and Techniques: Alligators are physically powerful with quick
    reflexes. At the time that an alligator hybrid is created, the character
    recieves one free dot to put into Strength. When increasing the character's
    Strength or Stamina beyond the natural limit, the character only needs to
    pay four times that Attribute's current rating, and when increasing the
    character's Dexterity, the character only pays five times the Attribute's
    current rating.

    Basic Maneuvers: Bite, Claw, Tail Slash

    Common Special Maneuvers:
    Punch - Eye Rake
    Grab - Back Roll Throw, Head Bite, Jaw Spin, Bear Hug, Ripping Bite,
    Tearing Bite
    Athletics - Beast Roll, Croc Roll, Dragon's Tail, Druken Monkey Roll,
    Rolling Attack,
    Tail Sweep, Tumbling Attack, Typhoon Tail, Upper Tail Strike, Vertical
    Rolling Attack
    Focus - Toughskin

    Natural Abilities: Cold Blooded, Swimming, Natural Armor 2

    Frenzy: An alligator hybrid will attempt to use the Bite maneuver if
    possible when under frenzy. If the character's jaw has been prevented from
    opening in some way, the hybrid will use tail slashes and croc rolls in
    random fashion (in this case, the croc roll is an exception to the "no
    Special Maneuvers" rule of frenzy).

    Styles: Alligator hybrids find it easier to learn styles that allow them to
    use thier physical strength most effectively. Thse include Native American
    Wrestling, the Pankration, Sanbo, Silat, Special Forces, Thai Kickboxing,
    Western Kickboxing, and Wrestling.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4846 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/23/1999
    Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
    I like it. How many animals are you thinking of doing? What does natural
    armor 2 mean? Did you use the TMNT RPG as a guideline?
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4847 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
    I'm glad that you like it. I'm going to do several animals. I do have the
    TMNT RPG, but I didn't use it for this...I might use it to decide on some
    animals to add though. Natural armor 2 is one of the natural abilities, and
    it will be detailed in the actual article. But since you asked, it acts kind
    of like toughskin. The two is a value. An alligator hybrid has natural armor
    2 due to his scales, which automatically adds 2 to the character's soak at
    all times, without any Willpower or Chi cost. It does seem a bit
    unbalancing, so I'll probably make it natural armor 1. It just depends as I
    work on it. I could possibly make a character with less then Animal
    Background 5 have to spend 1 freebie point for each natural ability. I guess
    that only time will tell.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Azathoth05@... <Azathoth05@...>
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:45 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview


    >I like it. How many animals are you thinking of doing? What does natural
    >armor 2 mean? Did you use the TMNT RPG as a guideline?
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4848 From: J.J. Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Dustin Wolfe" <lancer1@...>
    To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 8:21 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview



    >
    > Attributes and Techniques: Alligators are physically powerful with quick
    > reflexes. At the time that an alligator hybrid is created, the character
    > recieves one free dot to put into Strength. When increasing the
    character's
    > Strength or Stamina beyond the natural limit, the character only needs to
    > pay four times that Attribute's current rating, and when increasing the
    > character's Dexterity, the character only pays five times the Attribute's
    > current rating.

    One might also consider that a Croc would have a bonus to Stamina for
    soaking purposes, and a penalty for being easily winded.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4849 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: Re: Problem players...
    Simply, because as far as I've seen it (I have a firm grasp on the rules,
    but I'm not infallible here) there are no rules covering how far someone can
    move horizontally, so I set every hex as five feet. In other words, a move
    of five would cover 25 feet, which isn't improbable in the slightest. It
    works for us, at any rate. However, I stuck to the three feet vertically
    rule. Makes sense right? You can't jump as far as you can jog/run, and if
    Streetfighters are really athletic and all, no problem. The situation was
    this: He had Speed of the Mongoose going, and tried to jump 50 feet onto
    the roof of a building. When I said that he'd have to have a move of about
    17 vertically, he blew up. Go figure. Even when I said that there were
    other buildings with lower roofs, he had to jump to the top of this one.
    Why? "Because then they won't be able to follow me." Beats me. I've never
    seen anyone jump even thirty feet onto the top of a roof, except VERY high
    powered NPC's in my game. The guys following him were SWAT members out of
    the sourcebook.


    >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
    >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
    >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:39:29 -0500
    >
    >
    >Jump height is covered in the book. What the heck was he tryin' to pull on
    >that one?
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Chris Krug-Iron [mailto:inrifrost@...]
    >Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:21 AM
    >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
    >
    >
    >Thanks for the advice, but I do, in fact, know the rules inside the books
    >and out of them. That wasn't the problem. It was situational things, like
    >a rules call for a getaway chase, or exactly how high he could
    >jump...things
    >
    >like that.
    >
    >
    > >From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
    > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
    > >Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:58:14 -0500
    > >
    > >Hmmm.....problems with a resident Law major in the group? I've had the
    >woes
    > >of all Story Tellers, As I do have a lawyer (happens to be my brother)
    >and
    > >a
    > >player that is ALWAYS parinoied that I am out to get him.
    > >But these to rolled into one?
    > >Hmmm.. that's hard.
    > >
    > >As far as his arguing against your rulings are concerned, you need to
    >make
    > >sure that Three things are in order first, and then you can use the Rules
    > >of
    > >roleplaying:
    > >
    > >A. You need to make sure that you have an INTIMATE knowledge of all
    >the
    > >books, and all the rules. If you're a beginner GM, and there's a
    > >experienced
    > >role-player, then he's gonna walk all over you to get what's coming to
    >him.
    > >
    > >B. You need to make sure that all of your decisions are fair. Just
    >ask
    > >the other role players, shouldn't be to hard to do. Regardless of how
    >much
    > >they enrage you, you can't lash out at them in anger (well.....maybe a
    > >little), you can only let them reap the concequences of their actions.
    >Just
    > >make sure that there ARE concequences.
    > >
    > >C. You need to make sure that the game stays fun for EVEYONE! They tell
    >you
    > >this everywhere, and it IS true.
    > >
    > >After you have all of these things down pat, you can put into action the
    > >Ultimate Rules of Role-Playing.
    > >These rules were created long ago, when role players were upset and
    > >threatened to revolt against the GM. In turn the GM wanted to leave the
    > >group. They comprimised and as a result we got these two rules.
    > >
    > >RULE #1: The Game Master is always right.
    > >
    > >This rule should be applied any time there is dissention amoung the
    >group,
    > >and whenever there is a vauge point that the books fail to talk about.
    > >For all other conditions and situations that are encountered then apply
    > >rule
    > >two.
    > >
    > >RULE #2: See rule number one.
    > >
    > >As far as having an overpowered gamer in the group goes, I'd highly
    >suggest
    > >checking out Steve's Site. He's got some pages dedicated to toppeling
    > >overpowered characters. Over all I think he has the best page for GM
    > >advice.
    > >You might stop by Crazy Chris H.'s place also.....
    > >
    > >
    > >Andy
    > >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4850 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: Other Kung Fu.
    I now working in tournament but in my free time I love make styles or
    conversions of existent styles, this one realy exist.
    By the way now I think make all Kung Fu types Mantis, Cobra, Dragon and
    others.

    White Crane Kung Fu

    This ancient style of Kung Fu called, Pak Hok, bases its movements on
    those of crane. The legend goes that a Taoist priest was impressed by
    the skill of a crane protecting its nest from a thieving ape. The monk
    combined the wing and beak moves of the crane with other martial arts.
    The White Crane style includes wide swinging attacks and defenses, jumps
    and highly stylized stances. Defensives tactics are used at first,
    followed by a fully commited attack. This means that White Crane expert
    will rarely attack first. This style also has a large repertoire of
    weapons, from the straight Chinese sword to the metal whip.

    Chi 3 Willpower 4
    Concept: Phylosophy student, Taoist, World traveler.
    Quote: "The true warrior never attack first, he wait for his opponent
    mistake."

    Punch

    Dim Mak (4pt)
    Crane Sweep (Fist Sweep) (2pt)
    Monkey Grab Punch (1pt)
    Hundred Hand Slap (4pt)
    Rekka Ken (5pt)
    Knife Hand Strike (3pt)

    Kick

    Back Flip Kick (2pt)
    Double Hit Kick (1pt)
    Reverse Frontal Kick (1pt)
    Stepping Frontal Kick (3pt)
    Lightning Leg (4pt)
    Scissor Kick (3pt)
    Great Wall of China (5pt)
    Double Dread Kick (3pt)
    Flying Thrust Kick (4pts)
    Flying Knee Thrust (1pt)
    Foward Backflip Kick (2pt)
    Foward Flip Knee (3pt)
    Whirlwind Kick (5pt)
    Crane Direct Flying Kick (3pt)

    Block

    Deflect punch (1pt)
    Maka Wara (3pt)
    San He (3pt)

    Grab

    Grabling Defense (4pts)
    Hair Throw (2pt)
    Pin (3pt)
    Improved Pin (3pt)
    Air Throw (2pt)
    Rising Storm Crow (5pts)

    Athletics

    Drunken Monkey Roll (2pt)
    Rolling Attack (3pts)
    Wall Spring (1pt)
    Air Smash (1pt)
    Flying Heel Stomp (3pt)
    Crane Stance (Flamingo Stance) (1pt)

    Focus

    Chi Kung Healing (4pt)
    Chi Push (5pt)
    Balance (3pt)
    Leech (4pt)
    Regeneration (2pt)
    Zen No Mind (3pt)

    New Manuvers:

    Crane Direct Flying Kick
    Prerequisites: Kick 5, Athletics 3, Jump, Wall Spring.
    Comentary: Similar at Jaguar Tooth manuver from Adon but is more slow
    and don´t have much move like Jaguar Tooth but have more damage.
    Description: Fighter crouch at ground take impulse and make a Wall
    Spring and them after he make Crane Direct Flying Kick. appears same way
    a Jaguar Tooth.
    System: Aerial, Knockdown against aerial and when interruped opponents
    who receive damage.
    Speed: +0
    Damage: +5
    Move: +1

    Crane Stance (Flamingo Stance- From netbook New Legends)
    Prerequisites: Athletics 3, Kick 2
    Description: The fighter adopts a kicking stance, perched on one leg.
    System: A fighter may assume the Flamingo Stance at any time. While in
    this stance, all rolls to hit with regular kicks (short, forward,
    roundhouse) are at -2 difficulty to hit and +2 Speed. Also all Called
    Shots with kicks are normal difficulty without having to raise.
    Disadvantages include that a fighter may not make any other attacks
    other than kicks while in a Flamingo Stance. If a fighter takes Damage
    (Blocked or otherwise) he must spend a Willpower point to stay upright.
    Cost: None
    Speed: See above
    Damage: See above
    Move: None
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4851 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: The Santa Claus Challenge.
    Special before tournament all fighters of tournament see the good old
    man with your red cloth walking with a list and say that words "You´re a
    bad child this year and for this you don´t receive gift" Santa Claus is
    a rank 1 fighter like all fighters from Gateway tournament and make
    challenge for anyone who want figth with him the prize is his word to
    eternal Christmas gift for the winner family, this my special way to say
    Merry Christmas to all people of list and Happy new year.

    Signed: Rinaldo Gambetta ps: Gateway tournament start 1/1/2000, see
    ya folks.
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4852 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/24/1999
    Subject: Holidays
    MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

    Have a Happy and Joyful Holiday Season!
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4853 From: Chris Krug-Iron Date: 12/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Holidays
    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Best wishes, and may the coming year bring you success.

    Hadoken!
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4854 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Warrior's Pride "Call of the Wild" Preview
    I'd say armor 1 for a croc, a rhino or hippo would have two. And I agree
    that it should cost more to acquire. Maybe Armor only at background levels
    of three of higher, and croc roll at level 2. I'd also suggest a higher cost
    for these backgrounds than 1 point per dot, but that's just me. I've been
    using the recently suggested 3 per dot rule, which eats up all your freebies
    to max out and costs as much as techniques to improve. Also, it was
    suggested "One might also consider that a Croc would have a bonus to Stamina
    for soaking purposes, and a penalty for being easily winded." I'd say to
    simulate their ability to burst into action and tire quickly use a modified
    Rekka Ken with prerequisite of hybrid 3 or 4 and only works with hybrid
    maneuvers like regular bite or regular tail slash. After the third round it
    is not an option of showing off, but rather a mandatory turn where the
    character is exhausted(Winded) and effectively dizzed. The cost might only
    be 3 or 4 power points for this "Croc Rekka Ken".

    In a message dated 12/24/99 12:44:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
    lancer1@... writes:

    << Natural armor 2 is one of the natural abilities, and
    it will be detailed in the actual article. But since you asked, it acts kind
    of like toughskin. The two is a value. An alligator hybrid has natural armor
    2 due to his scales, which automatically adds 2 to the character's soak at
    all times, without any Willpower or Chi cost. It does seem a bit
    unbalancing, so I'll probably make it natural armor 1. It just depends as I
    work on it. I could possibly make a character with less then Animal
    Background 5 have to spend 1 freebie point for each natural ability. I guess
    that only time will tell. >>
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4855 From: Azathoth05@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Holidays
    Merry Christmas to all, and may you all get Chun Li in a teeny little
    nightgown waiting under your tree (I get Cammy :)
    Group: streetfighter Message: 4856 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 12/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Holidays
    In a message dated 12/25/99 12:23:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
    Azathoth05@... writes:

    << Merry Christmas to all, and may you all get Chun Li in a teeny little
    nightgown waiting under your tree (I get Cammy :) >>
    nah, give me juni and juli... mmmmmmm, twins.....