Questions grabs:

Suplex is possible with arm dislocated?
Back roll throw is possible with arm dislocate?
I´m not talking make a block but a combo Speed of Moongoose for Rekka ken
and receive the bonus from speed of moogoose and Rekka ken plus the combo
bonus are: +4+3+2=9.
Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Yes, you can punch with your other arm if one of your arms has been
> dislocated. However, if you don't stop to re-locate your first arm, you
> run the risk of having your good arm popped out of joint in a future
> turn, causing you some serious problems if you can't kick.
>
> Speed of the Mongoose requires you to stand still for one full turn to
> activate the power. I don't have the book in front of me so I don't
> remember if you can Block during that turn... but I'm pretty sure you
> can't. Assuming your opponent doesn't deck you with the heaviest
> maneuver he owns or put you in a Sustained Hold while you're standing
> around for a turn doing absolutely nothing offensive or defensive, then
> yes, you can get the bonus next turn. Nothing wrong with that. Again;
> I'm not objecting to the cumulative bonuses of the Flame/Rekka Ken
> combo, but whether or not the rules allow them to be used together. The
> effects of Speed of the Mongoose are not restricted in any way
> regardless of the power of their combination with other maneuvers.
>
> Believe me, I know how much Speed of the Mongoose can be abused. I had
> a Ninja in my group once who had a Speed of the Mongoose to Back Roll
> Throw combo. :) Unfortunately, all of his points put into Chi and Focus
> didn't help out his Stamina much...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:10 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
> You permit the dislocated realize punches at normal damage and speed for
> using other arm all right what types of grabs use one hand?
> When I write about Moongoose speed with Rekka ken I´m talking about the
> huge
> bonus
> and if you make a Speed of Moongoose for Rekka ken you receive +4 of
> Moongoose +2 combo and +3 Rekka Ken
> Think about it is +9 in speed easy and clean I think.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > I've always said that, since the description of Dislocate Limb states
> > "the fighter may only throw kicks until the arm is relocated", that
> > punches and grabs are Right Out. Since then I've decided that you can
> > still grab, but only the grabs that require one arm (not many of
> them),
> > and you can still punch (with the other arm). But if you get your
> other
> > arm dislocated, yer screwed.
> >
> > This reminds me of an amusing incident where my players were fighting
> a
> > team of boxers. One of them was Bear Hugger, that lovably huggable
> hick
> > from Super Punch Out. The ol' B.H. ain't too bright, nor too fast,
> but
> > boy can he soak up damitch. Anyhoos, the Sanbo guy who I mentioned
> > earlier used his incredibly fastness of combos to yank both of the
> good
> > ol' boy's arms out of his sockets. Lacking the brights to re-locate
> his
> > arms without using his arms, he had to resort to running around the
> ring
> > head-butting people. I never saw something so funny in all my life.
> > Eventually he leaped into the air and slammed his shoulder into the
> > ground, re-gaining the use of one of his arms.
> >
> > The team lost, BTW. It came down to three against one, and Birdie
> > wrapped his chain around the player and slammed him into the ground so
> > hard he put him into a coma. (11 points of damage to a player with 1
> > current health and 10 max health; you do the math.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:38 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] The efect of dislocated limb.
> >
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master but
> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
> > limb in grab manuvers?
> >
> >
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Rilando: if the guy is using a GRAB or a PUNCH or some other, arm related
manever, then they will suffer -3 (to pop it in) and -2 damadge (since thier
arm feelss funny. However they are wellcome to do most kicks within reason,
and a lot of Focus and Athletic maneuvers, while thier are is out of joint
AND NOT FEEL ANY EFFECTS: however, they will still suffer the -3 speed to
pop thier arm back in, IF they want to do an arm manevuer.
As far as how Dilocated limb works on grab manevuers... I believe that the
idea is that next to all grab manevuers require BOTH arms to properly
execute.
One of my "Andy Maneuvers" is the Human Piller (grab) that ORo has... since
that usese only one arm, i'd say you could do that move without the ill
effects.

> I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master but
> one thing stop my progress.
> The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2 for
> damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab like
> Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of dislocated
> limb in grab manuvers?
>
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Suplex is possible with arm dislocated?

*no. A suplex requires both arms.

Back roll throw is possible with arm dislocate?

* Yes. You only need one arm to pull your opponent backward.

I´m not talking make a block but a combo Speed of Moongoose for Rekka
ken
and receive the bonus from speed of moogoose and Rekka ken plus the
combo
bonus are: +4+3+2=9.

* I've already said this is legal. Speed of the Mongoose has no
restrictions on what can take the Speed bonus.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Yes, you can punch with your other arm if one of your arms has been
> dislocated. However, if you don't stop to re-locate your first arm,

you

> run the risk of having your good arm popped out of joint in a future
> turn, causing you some serious problems if you can't kick.
>
> Speed of the Mongoose requires you to stand still for one full turn to
> activate the power. I don't have the book in front of me so I don't
> remember if you can Block during that turn... but I'm pretty sure you
> can't. Assuming your opponent doesn't deck you with the heaviest
> maneuver he owns or put you in a Sustained Hold while you're standing
> around for a turn doing absolutely nothing offensive or defensive,

then

> yes, you can get the bonus next turn. Nothing wrong with that.

Again;

> I'm not objecting to the cumulative bonuses of the Flame/Rekka Ken
> combo, but whether or not the rules allow them to be used together.

The

> effects of Speed of the Mongoose are not restricted in any way
> regardless of the power of their combination with other maneuvers.
>
> Believe me, I know how much Speed of the Mongoose can be abused. I

had

> a Ninja in my group once who had a Speed of the Mongoose to Back Roll
> Throw combo. :) Unfortunately, all of his points put into Chi and

Focus

> didn't help out his Stamina much...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:10 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
> You permit the dislocated realize punches at normal damage and speed

for

> using other arm all right what types of grabs use one hand?
> When I write about Moongoose speed with Rekka ken I´m talking about

the

> huge
> bonus
> and if you make a Speed of Moongoose for Rekka ken you receive +4 of
> Moongoose +2 combo and +3 Rekka Ken
> Think about it is +9 in speed easy and clean I think.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > I've always said that, since the description of Dislocate Limb

states

> > "the fighter may only throw kicks until the arm is relocated", that
> > punches and grabs are Right Out. Since then I've decided that you

can

> > still grab, but only the grabs that require one arm (not many of
> them),
> > and you can still punch (with the other arm). But if you get your
> other
> > arm dislocated, yer screwed.
> >
> > This reminds me of an amusing incident where my players were

fighting

> a
> > team of boxers. One of them was Bear Hugger, that lovably huggable
> hick
> > from Super Punch Out. The ol' B.H. ain't too bright, nor too fast,
> but
> > boy can he soak up damitch. Anyhoos, the Sanbo guy who I mentioned
> > earlier used his incredibly fastness of combos to yank both of the
> good
> > ol' boy's arms out of his sockets. Lacking the brights to re-locate
> his
> > arms without using his arms, he had to resort to running around the
> ring
> > head-butting people. I never saw something so funny in all my life.
> > Eventually he leaped into the air and slammed his shoulder into the
> > ground, re-gaining the use of one of his arms.
> >
> > The team lost, BTW. It came down to three against one, and Birdie
> > wrapped his chain around the player and slammed him into the ground

so

> > hard he put him into a coma. (11 points of damage to a player with

1

> > current health and 10 max health; you do the math.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:38 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] The efect of dislocated limb.
> >
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master

but

> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
> > limb in grab manuvers?
> >
> >
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not to mention Face Slam, which only requires one arm. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:50 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.


Rilando: if the guy is using a GRAB or a PUNCH or some other, arm
related
manever, then they will suffer -3 (to pop it in) and -2 damadge (since
thier
arm feelss funny. However they are wellcome to do most kicks within
reason,
and a lot of Focus and Athletic maneuvers, while thier are is out of
joint
AND NOT FEEL ANY EFFECTS: however, they will still suffer the -3 speed
to
pop thier arm back in, IF they want to do an arm manevuer.
As far as how Dilocated limb works on grab manevuers... I believe that
the
idea is that next to all grab manevuers require BOTH arms to properly
execute.
One of my "Andy Maneuvers" is the Human Piller (grab) that ORo has...
since
that usese only one arm, i'd say you could do that move without the ill
effects.

> I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master but
> one thing stop my progress.
> The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2

for

> damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab

like

> Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of

dislocated

> limb in grab manuvers?
>
>

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Hmmmmm....if the character DOES want to run around with One arm out (seems
painful, but fine with me) then what would happen if he were put in a
sustained hold? If you've ever put out a shoulder you know what type of pain
I'm talking about....but these are Street Fighters and PAIN is thier game.
Still, does that mean that they should only get Half die, to try to break
out of a hold?

What's you advice steve?

>
> Yes, you can punch with your other arm if one of your arms has been
> dislocated. However, if you don't stop to re-locate your first arm, you
> run the risk of having your good arm popped out of joint in a future
> turn, causing you some serious problems if you can't kick.
>
> Speed of the Mongoose requires you to stand still for one full turn to
> activate the power. I don't have the book in front of me so I don't
> remember if you can Block during that turn... but I'm pretty sure you
> can't. Assuming your opponent doesn't deck you with the heaviest
> maneuver he owns or put you in a Sustained Hold while you're standing
> around for a turn doing absolutely nothing offensive or defensive, then
> yes, you can get the bonus next turn. Nothing wrong with that. Again;
> I'm not objecting to the cumulative bonuses of the Flame/Rekka Ken
> combo, but whether or not the rules allow them to be used together. The
> effects of Speed of the Mongoose are not restricted in any way
> regardless of the power of their combination with other maneuvers.
>
> Believe me, I know how much Speed of the Mongoose can be abused. I had
> a Ninja in my group once who had a Speed of the Mongoose to Back Roll
> Throw combo. :) Unfortunately, all of his points put into Chi and Focus
> didn't help out his Stamina much...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:10 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
>
> You permit the dislocated realize punches at normal damage and speed for
> using other arm all right what types of grabs use one hand?
> When I write about Moongoose speed with Rekka ken I´m talking about the
> huge
> bonus
> and if you make a Speed of Moongoose for Rekka ken you receive +4 of
> Moongoose +2 combo and +3 Rekka Ken
> Think about it is +9 in speed easy and clean I think.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > I've always said that, since the description of Dislocate Limb states
> > "the fighter may only throw kicks until the arm is relocated", that
> > punches and grabs are Right Out. Since then I've decided that you can
> > still grab, but only the grabs that require one arm (not many of
> them),
> > and you can still punch (with the other arm). But if you get your
> other
> > arm dislocated, yer screwed.
> >
> > This reminds me of an amusing incident where my players were fighting
> a
> > team of boxers. One of them was Bear Hugger, that lovably huggable
> hick
> > from Super Punch Out. The ol' B.H. ain't too bright, nor too fast,
> but
> > boy can he soak up damitch. Anyhoos, the Sanbo guy who I mentioned
> > earlier used his incredibly fastness of combos to yank both of the
> good
> > ol' boy's arms out of his sockets. Lacking the brights to re-locate
> his
> > arms without using his arms, he had to resort to running around the
> ring
> > head-butting people. I never saw something so funny in all my life.
> > Eventually he leaped into the air and slammed his shoulder into the
> > ground, re-gaining the use of one of his arms.
> >
> > The team lost, BTW. It came down to three against one, and Birdie
> > wrapped his chain around the player and slammed him into the ground so
> > hard he put him into a coma. (11 points of damage to a player with 1
> > current health and 10 max health; you do the math.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:38 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] The efect of dislocated limb.
> >
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master but
> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
> > limb in grab manuvers?
> >
> >
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Nah. There are ways to get out of a sustained hold without using your
arms, so that wouldn't apply. I wouldn't apply penalties based on pain
either, for the reasons you've already stated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:54 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.


Hmmmmm....if the character DOES want to run around with One arm out
(seems
painful, but fine with me) then what would happen if he were put in a
sustained hold? If you've ever put out a shoulder you know what type of
pain
I'm talking about....but these are Street Fighters and PAIN is thier
game.
Still, does that mean that they should only get Half die, to try to
break
out of a hold?

What's you advice steve?

>
> Yes, you can punch with your other arm if one of your arms has been
> dislocated. However, if you don't stop to re-locate your first arm,

you

> run the risk of having your good arm popped out of joint in a future
> turn, causing you some serious problems if you can't kick.
>
> Speed of the Mongoose requires you to stand still for one full turn to
> activate the power. I don't have the book in front of me so I don't
> remember if you can Block during that turn... but I'm pretty sure you
> can't. Assuming your opponent doesn't deck you with the heaviest
> maneuver he owns or put you in a Sustained Hold while you're standing
> around for a turn doing absolutely nothing offensive or defensive,

then

> yes, you can get the bonus next turn. Nothing wrong with that.

Again;

> I'm not objecting to the cumulative bonuses of the Flame/Rekka Ken
> combo, but whether or not the rules allow them to be used together.

The

> effects of Speed of the Mongoose are not restricted in any way
> regardless of the power of their combination with other maneuvers.
>
> Believe me, I know how much Speed of the Mongoose can be abused. I

had

> a Ninja in my group once who had a Speed of the Mongoose to Back Roll
> Throw combo. :) Unfortunately, all of his points put into Chi and

Focus

> didn't help out his Stamina much...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:10 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
>
> You permit the dislocated realize punches at normal damage and speed

for

> using other arm all right what types of grabs use one hand?
> When I write about Moongoose speed with Rekka ken I´m talking about

the

> huge
> bonus
> and if you make a Speed of Moongoose for Rekka ken you receive +4 of
> Moongoose +2 combo and +3 Rekka Ken
> Think about it is +9 in speed easy and clean I think.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > I've always said that, since the description of Dislocate Limb

states

> > "the fighter may only throw kicks until the arm is relocated", that
> > punches and grabs are Right Out. Since then I've decided that you

can

> > still grab, but only the grabs that require one arm (not many of
> them),
> > and you can still punch (with the other arm). But if you get your
> other
> > arm dislocated, yer screwed.
> >
> > This reminds me of an amusing incident where my players were

fighting

> a
> > team of boxers. One of them was Bear Hugger, that lovably huggable
> hick
> > from Super Punch Out. The ol' B.H. ain't too bright, nor too fast,
> but
> > boy can he soak up damitch. Anyhoos, the Sanbo guy who I mentioned
> > earlier used his incredibly fastness of combos to yank both of the
> good
> > ol' boy's arms out of his sockets. Lacking the brights to re-locate
> his
> > arms without using his arms, he had to resort to running around the
> ring
> > head-butting people. I never saw something so funny in all my life.
> > Eventually he leaped into the air and slammed his shoulder into the
> > ground, re-gaining the use of one of his arms.
> >
> > The team lost, BTW. It came down to three against one, and Birdie
> > wrapped his chain around the player and slammed him into the ground

so

> > hard he put him into a coma. (11 points of damage to a player with

1

> > current health and 10 max health; you do the math.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:38 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] The efect of dislocated limb.
> >
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master

but

> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
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It also looks like Storm Hammer, and Thigh press would suffer minimal
effects from a ONe-armed wonder.
Head bite is iffy... I doubt that you'd be able to keep someone in a
Sustained hold with your shoulder out of joint.

As a house ruling going out to the Arm-less vitcim, what are you feelings on
Punching while they have no arm, Steve? I know you said that they shoudl
still be able to punch with thier other hand for most maneuvers, and that
sounds ok to me. But the other arm will not be able to do much, and should
affect thier guard. I remebre if you have practiced much fighting, but you
are cultured enought to know that when you punch, your other hand stays home
to protect (usualy thier face).
I hadn't been playing that you could punch someone without re-locating your
arm (I like your ruling, so I'll probably change that), but when I do, I
think I will make the guy have a -1 soak to body/head shots. Just like the
Savate styleists over extened themselves and have a -1 soak to all sweeps,
if you only have one hand to work with, and the other stays hanging at your
side, then you're gonna get smacked in the face (or abbs) pretty hard.

Once again, oh grand high and exaulted master of reading between the lines,
we ask you to give us you wise, wise, funny (?!) opinion.


(Oh, BTW you REALLY think that they wouldn't have any harder a time getting
out of a Strenght contested roll? Man... I guess fighters ARE resourceful..
^_~ )

>
> not to mention Face Slam, which only requires one arm. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:50 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
>
> Rilando: if the guy is using a GRAB or a PUNCH or some other, arm
> related
> manever, then they will suffer -3 (to pop it in) and -2 damadge (since
> thier
> arm feelss funny. However they are wellcome to do most kicks within
> reason,
> and a lot of Focus and Athletic maneuvers, while thier are is out of
> joint
> AND NOT FEEL ANY EFFECTS: however, they will still suffer the -3 speed
> to
> pop thier arm back in, IF they want to do an arm manevuer.
> As far as how Dilocated limb works on grab manevuers... I believe that
> the
> idea is that next to all grab manevuers require BOTH arms to properly
> execute.
> One of my "Andy Maneuvers" is the Human Piller (grab) that ORo has...
> since
> that usese only one arm, i'd say you could do that move without the ill
> effects.
>
>
>
>
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master but
> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
> > limb in grab manuvers?
> >
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I'm going to have to complain about this one Rinaldo, it just doesn't sound
Kosher to me.
You cant have a fighter that can SEE INTO THE FUTURE <unless and Insite
roll, or you have Mind Reading>. A tactic cannot wait to see if the victim
Blocks or not, and THEN decide to do the most effective maneuver, such as
Grab. If you want the character to do this tactic, then they will need Zen
No Mind (that's what it's for) and they will go at the end of the turn. Once
again on the subject of abort maneuvers, I belive as it stands OFFICIALY
only Block and Jump can be Aborted to....not Rekka Ken, not Knife had
strike, and CERTAINLY not Brain Cracker.

> Move 3- You and he are 5 hexes distance he only move here 4 hexes ahead in

your

> direction and you made dragon punch and now you and he are in same

distance you

> hit dragon punch and Jason going back the distance is 1 hex .
> Move 4- I put notes in npc´s, for Jason the note is if I´m near enough and

enemy

> block abort my current manuver and make Braincracker, this manuver walk

one hex

> and the distance between Jason and Whisper are only 1 hex.
>
> Azathoth05@... wrote:
>
> > Oh, I was referring to this part by the way-
> >
> > <Move 3- Jason Mercer move 4 hexes ahead and Whisper move 1 hex make a
> > Dragon punch Jason Mercer
> > receives: 5 points of damage and going back 1 hex.
> > Move 4- Whisper block and Jason Mercer abort his block to make a
> > Braincracker susteinted hold and
> > Whisper receives: 4 points of damage and in the final of turn in
> > strenght conterst to mantain or break
> > the hold Jason Mercer continues the hold.>
> >
> > <HUH? how the hell do you abort to a grab maneuver? Not only that but

he was

> > out of range for the brain cracker after my dragon punch pushed him back

a

> > hex. You have to enter the same hex to grab an opponent. Sorry dude

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It also looks like Storm Hammer, and Thigh press would suffer minimal
effects from a One-armed wonder.

* Quite so. How about cyborgs with cybernetic arms? I shudder to
think. Would the damage be permanent? ;)

Head bite is iffy... I doubt that you'd be able to keep someone in a
Sustained hold with your shoulder out of joint.

* Sure you would. One arm around the neck, legs around the waist.

As a house ruling going out to the Arm-less vitcim, what are you
feelings on
Punching while they have no arm, Steve? I know you said that they shoudl
still be able to punch with thier other hand for most maneuvers, and
that
sounds ok to me. But the other arm will not be able to do much, and
should
affect thier guard. I remebre if you have practiced much fighting, but
you
are cultured enought to know that when you punch, your other hand stays
home
to protect (usualy thier face).

* since Street Fighters can not technically Block during the same turn
they are attacking, this would not apply.

Once again, oh grand high and exaulted master of reading between the
lines,
we ask you to give us you wise, wise, funny (?!) opinion.

* Once I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I'll
never know.

(Oh, BTW you REALLY think that they wouldn't have any harder a time
getting
out of a Strenght contested roll? Man... I guess fighters ARE
resourceful..
^_~ )

* The strength roll could be to determine if the fighter is able to get
a leg free in order to push away from his opponent or kick him in the
'nards.

>
> not to mention Face Slam, which only requires one arm. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:50 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The efect of dislocated limb.
>
>
> Rilando: if the guy is using a GRAB or a PUNCH or some other, arm
> related
> manever, then they will suffer -3 (to pop it in) and -2 damadge (since
> thier
> arm feelss funny. However they are wellcome to do most kicks within
> reason,
> and a lot of Focus and Athletic maneuvers, while thier are is out of
> joint
> AND NOT FEEL ANY EFFECTS: however, they will still suffer the -3 speed
> to
> pop thier arm back in, IF they want to do an arm manevuer.
> As far as how Dilocated limb works on grab manevuers... I believe that
> the
> idea is that next to all grab manevuers require BOTH arms to properly
> execute.
> One of my "Andy Maneuvers" is the Human Piller (grab) that ORo has...
> since
> that usese only one arm, i'd say you could do that move without the

ill

> effects.
>
>
>
>
> > I want realize the fight between Danielle Garcia and Talon Master

but

> > one thing stop my progress.
> > The dislocated limb afect punches giving for them -3 to speed and -2
> for
> > damage but If you have a arm dislocated you can´t realize some grab
> like
> > Back roll throw or Suplex, someone have a idea for efects of
> dislocated
> > limb in grab manuvers?
> >
> >
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I don´t know this I make this because other people do in notes in their
fighters:
notes like if he try to grab me jump or if he make a Cartwheel kick change my
action to, what you want mean is the tactics are only to be the pure moves like
move 1- block
move 2- jab punch
move 3- block for combo
move 4- Hurricane kick
move 5-8- Repeat stes 1-4
move 9- Block for combo
move 10- Hurricane kick

but the notes serve for what only for special cases like arm dislocate what do
when knockdown or what do when enemy is dizzy, I think the notes are only for
this but many players send me tactics if the topic if this happen... And when I
don´t use they will gonna furious with me, but I think anyone can say future,
and have the classical case if my enemy use a Fireball jump avoid it, but abort
actions is not valid in combat cards game we say our speed and move but if the
player didn´t want put in danger his fighter he can abort his move now I known
what you want mean.

Andy wrote:

> I'm going to have to complain about this one Rinaldo, it just doesn't sound
> Kosher to me.
> You cant have a fighter that can SEE INTO THE FUTURE <unless and Insite
> roll, or you have Mind Reading>. A tactic cannot wait to see if the victim
> Blocks or not, and THEN decide to do the most effective maneuver, such as
> Grab. If you want the character to do this tactic, then they will need Zen
> No Mind (that's what it's for) and they will go at the end of the turn. Once
> again on the subject of abort maneuvers, I belive as it stands OFFICIALY
> only Block and Jump can be Aborted to....not Rekka Ken, not Knife had
> strike, and CERTAINLY not Brain Cracker.
>
> > Move 3- You and he are 5 hexes distance he only move here 4 hexes ahead in
> your
> > direction and you made dragon punch and now you and he are in same
> distance you
> > hit dragon punch and Jason going back the distance is 1 hex .
> > Move 4- I put notes in npc´s, for Jason the note is if I´m near enough and
> enemy
> > block abort my current manuver and make Braincracker, this manuver walk
> one hex
> > and the distance between Jason and Whisper are only 1 hex.
> >
> > Azathoth05@... wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, I was referring to this part by the way-
> > >
> > > <Move 3- Jason Mercer move 4 hexes ahead and Whisper move 1 hex make a
> > > Dragon punch Jason Mercer
> > > receives: 5 points of damage and going back 1 hex.
> > > Move 4- Whisper block and Jason Mercer abort his block to make a
> > > Braincracker susteinted hold and
> > > Whisper receives: 4 points of damage and in the final of turn in
> > > strenght conterst to mantain or break
> > > the hold Jason Mercer continues the hold.>
> > >
> > > <HUH? how the hell do you abort to a grab maneuver? Not only that but
> he was
> > > out of range for the brain cracker after my dragon punch pushed him back
> a
> > > hex. You have to enter the same hex to grab an opponent. Sorry dude
> but
> > > that match was incorrect.>
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Andy is right in his last mail I can´t make abort manuvers for special
condictions is like to try avoid everything and at same time known the
future when I said notes this for special cases like arm dislocate,
after receiveing and giving a knockdown, enemy dizzy, but Fighters can´t
read the strategy because that I remove abort cases to prevail the best
tactic and not the all situations abort move to... people, I make this
mistake for myself I realy sorry, I only use notes in special cases
maybe abort to avoid a fireball or grab pass but I need known what the
people think, maybe Andy is right this a typical case for Zen no mind.

I think that you should allow for abort strategies, but they must be as
specific as possible. for example, a player may send you his ten-turn
move list, with a tag that notes "if my opponent uses a fireball or
cartwheel kick and I am able to abort, abort to a jump." that way
there's no uncertainty about what gets done when.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:42 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Notes saying the future.


Andy is right in his last mail I can´t make abort manuvers for special
condictions is like to try avoid everything and at same time known the
future when I said notes this for special cases like arm dislocate,
after receiveing and giving a knockdown, enemy dizzy, but Fighters can´t
read the strategy because that I remove abort cases to prevail the best
tactic and not the all situations abort move to... people, I make this
mistake for myself I realy sorry, I only use notes in special cases
maybe abort to avoid a fireball or grab pass but I need known what the
people think, maybe Andy is right this a typical case for Zen no mind.



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You mean you only abort for defensive actions like an atacking manuver for a
block like I will use a jab and my enemy will use a Dragon punch, but in my
notes are the case if the enemy use Carthwhell kick, Dragon punch abort to
jump.
Only defensive therms jump or block never offensive, right?

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> I think that you should allow for abort strategies, but they must be as
> specific as possible. for example, a player may send you his ten-turn
> move list, with a tag that notes "if my opponent uses a fireball or
> cartwheel kick and I am able to abort, abort to a jump." that way
> there's no uncertainty about what gets done when.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:42 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Notes saying the future.
>
> Andy is right in his last mail I can´t make abort manuvers for special
> condictions is like to try avoid everything and at same time known the
> future when I said notes this for special cases like arm dislocate,
> after receiveing and giving a knockdown, enemy dizzy, but Fighters can´t
> read the strategy because that I remove abort cases to prevail the best
> tactic and not the all situations abort move to... people, I make this
> mistake for myself I realy sorry, I only use notes in special cases
> maybe abort to avoid a fireball or grab pass but I need known what the
> people think, maybe Andy is right this a typical case for Zen no mind.
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Everyone who have a fighter in Gateway:

I request a note file where is right what your fighter do when: I belive
this only notes valid and not make the game unfair, maybe I forgot
something.

a) attack by dislocated limb and have his arm dislocated
b) Blinded by some thing
c) Is knockdown
d) Knockdown someone
e) A fireball coming
f) Grab cases
g) attack by powerfull manuver Dragon punch or multiple attacks
manuvers like Cartwheel kick or Tumbling attack
h) Enemy dizzy
i) I forgot something?

--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:

> Everyone who have a fighter in Gateway:
>
> I request a note file where is right what your fighter do when: I belive
> this only notes valid and not make the game unfair, maybe I forgot
> something.

Fair enough.

> a) attack by dislocated limb and have his arm dislocated

No Change

> b) Blinded by some thing

Um... use blind fighting?

> c) Is knockdown

Get back up again.

> d) Knockdown someone

Cut loose with a Dragon Punch or, if I don't have the willpower, Strong
Punch.

> e) A fireball coming

Abort to Jump.

> f) Grab cases

Abort to Block (just kidding) Abort to Jump

> g) attack by powerfull manuver Dragon punch or multiple attacks
> manuvers like Cartwheel kick or Tumbling attack

Abort to Block

> h) Enemy dizzy

Block.

> i) I forgot something?

You may want to include what to do if the other guy is spending a turn to
pose.

What to do if confronted with speed of the mongoose (though you should
require a Style Lore or Insight check to figure out it is Speed of the
Mongoose.)

What to do if I'm out of Willpower and my tactics call for a Willpower
using maneuver.

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This fight is very waited but now I have info about dislocated limb and
blind fight, sorry for the waiting.


Talon Master style: Lua country: Hawaii/Samoa player: Andy

Appearance: Young with tanned skin, he's quite small but has a very tight
frame. Althought in great shape, his face has been rearranged many times.
His hair normally covers his eyes, and is kept long and tied back in the
rear. He has polynesian tatoos across his back and on his deltoids. He
normally wares a Huge straw hat, and a Hawaiian shirt. In the ring he only
wares a short sarong (skirt) and a shark tooth necklace. He has two cyborg
hands...He wares large leather gloves that come up to his forearms (look
like falconier gloves), to try and cover them out of combat.

Quote before fight: "Approach....." and his band starts playing thier fast
beat polynesian music. He walks out, pulls off his gloves, and then throws
away his hat. He bounces with the beat of the music until the fight starts.

Vs

Danielle Garcia style: Judo country: Brazil player: Luiz

Appearance: 5'7" 144 lbs,Long red hair but in horse tail style, blue
eyes, white
skin dresses a judo vest, a beautiful woman with long hair and model
body.

Quote before fight: ...........!!!

Arena: Hawaii beach.

Move 1- Danielle Garcia block for her combo and Talon Master moves 3 hexes
and make a Eye rake and Danielle Garcia receives: 1 point of damage and is
blinded.
Move 2- Talon Master try to make a Dislocated limb but Danielle Garcia pass
in her blind fight skill and hit her Slide kick for combo first and Talon
Master receives: 1 point of damage and fall at ground but he stand up in
this turn.
Move 3- Talon Master try to make a Head bite but Danielle Garcia Suplex is
more faster and Talon Master receives: 3 points of damage and Talon Master
fall at ground but he stand up in this turn.
Move 4- Danielle Garcia block for her combo and Talon Master make a Head
bite and Danielle Garcia receives: 1 point of damage and strenght test and
Talon Master keep his susteinted hold.
Move 5- Talon Master continue Head bite and Danielle Garcia receives: 1
point of damage and strenght test and Danielle Garcia break susteinted hold.

Move 6- Danielle Garcia block for her combo and Talon Master make a Eye Rake
for combo and Danielle Garcia receives: a botch and Talon Master receive
penalty in next turn.
Move 7- Talon Master try to make a Head bite but Danielle Garcia Slide kick
is more faster and Talon Master receives: 2 points of damage and Talon
Master fall at a ground but he stand up in this turn.
Move 8- Talon Master try to make a Dislocated limb but Danielle Garcia
Suplex is more faster and Talon Master receives: 3 points of damage, he
stand up in this turn.
Move 9- Danielle Garcia block for her combo and Talon Master make a Eye rake
for his combo and Danielle Garcia receives: no damage.
Move 10- Talon Master try to make a Dislocated limb but Danielle Garcia Back
roll throw and Talon Master receives: 5 points of damage and Talon Master is
throwed a six hexes away, he falls at ground and knockout.

Danielle Garcia wins by knockout.
Danielle Garcia releases her hair
Danielle Garcia winning quote: “You want bite my face and put his fingers in
my eyes how rude, you deserve it”.

correct.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:50 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Notes saying the future.


You mean you only abort for defensive actions like an atacking manuver
for a
block like I will use a jab and my enemy will use a Dragon punch, but in
my
notes are the case if the enemy use Carthwhell kick, Dragon punch abort
to
jump.
Only defensive therms jump or block never offensive, right?

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> I think that you should allow for abort strategies, but they must be

as

> specific as possible. for example, a player may send you his ten-turn
> move list, with a tag that notes "if my opponent uses a fireball or
> cartwheel kick and I am able to abort, abort to a jump." that way
> there's no uncertainty about what gets done when.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 2:42 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Notes saying the future.
>
> Andy is right in his last mail I can´t make abort manuvers for special
> condictions is like to try avoid everything and at same time known the
> future when I said notes this for special cases like arm dislocate,
> after receiveing and giving a knockdown, enemy dizzy, but Fighters

can´t

> read the strategy because that I remove abort cases to prevail the

best

> tactic and not the all situations abort move to... people, I make this
> mistake for myself I realy sorry, I only use notes in special cases
> maybe abort to avoid a fireball or grab pass but I need known what the
> people think, maybe Andy is right this a typical case for Zen no mind.
>
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> c) Is knockdown

Get back up again.

"you're never gonna keep me down!"

All right people, we all know them and we either love them or loath them. And now it is time for another of Chris Hoffmann's popularity contests where you have to arbitrarily choose one of the fighters as your favorite and be branded a total goober for all time.
----

Please select one of the following:

o Mr. Military
o Danielle Garcia
o Whisperer
o Unknowledge
o Blaise
o That Shotoclone with the seven point dragon punch
o Justin Credible
o Other (but you've got to spam the list and tell everyone who do you love)


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--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:

> > c) Is knockdown
>
> Get back up again.
>
> "you're never gonna keep me down!"

*Jumps up to the top of the street fighter list waving around his tommy
gun* I warned youse! *ratatatatatatat Steve, you're being hit by a bunch
of ping pong balls.* Hahahahahahahahahah!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:25 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: The case of Dislocated limb and special c
ondictions.




--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:

> > c) Is knockdown
>
> Get back up again.
>
> "you're never gonna keep me down!"

*Jumps up to the top of the street fighter list waving around his tommy
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bunch
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As to who she is... it's... a... surprise. *dun dun dunnnnn...*

-----Original Message-----
From: staredown@... [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:18 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] POLL: Who's your favorite Friendly Fighter?


All right people, we all know them and we either love them or loath
them. And now it is time for another of Chris Hoffmann's popularity
contests where you have to arbitrarily choose one of the fighters as
your favorite and be branded a total goober for all time.
----

Please select one of the following:

o Mr. Military
o Danielle Garcia
o Whisperer
o Unknowledge
o Blaise
o That Shotoclone with the seven point dragon punch
o Justin Credible
o Other (but you've got to spam the list and tell everyone who do you
love)


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> All right people, we all know them and we either love them or loath them. And now it is time for another of Chris Hoffmann's popularity contests where you have to arbitrarily choose one of the fighters as your favorite and be branded a total goober for all time.
> ----
>
> Please select one of the following:
>
> o Mr. Military
> o Danielle Garcia
> o Whisperer
> o Unknowledge
> o Blaise
> o That Shotoclone with the seven point dragon punch
> o Justin Credible
> o Other (but you've got to spam the list and tell everyone who do you love)
>
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That was a ring dinger of a fight... had me in suspense up to the very
end! - whew -
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:45 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] :"Friendly" Fight 49 Nuclear Winter Vs Mr.Military.

>Nuclear Winter player: downfall style: Silat country: Japan
>
>Appearance: Don´t send to me.
>
>Quote before fight:"You to will be honored... to learn a lesson."
>
> Vs
>
>Mr.Military style: Special Forces country: Usa player: J.Scot Pittman.
>
>Appearance: Mr. Military, an afirian-american, dresses in a marine full
>military dress uniform, and is very clean cut. However, he is almost
>always seen smoking a smelly cigar. His expression is always one of
>disgust or seriousness. Mr.Military stands 6 ft. exactly, with black,
>crew-cut
>hair, deep brown eyes.
>He bears a scar of unknown origin that runs from the top of the left
>side of his forehead all the way down the side of his face.
>
>Quote before fight: "Mr. Military spits out an old cigar butt and
>narrows
>his eyes at his opponent."
>
>Arena: Hong Kong underground.
>
>Fighters are 3 hexes from each other the ring bells and fight start.
>
>Move 1- Nuclear Winter retreat 3 hexes and Mr.Military move 1 hex and
>make a
>Foot sweep for his combo but hit nothing.
>Move 2- Mr.Military abort his back flip kick and jumps to avoid a
>Fireball
>made by Nuclear Winter and move with jump 2 hexes ahead.
>Move 3- Mr Military try to make Foot sweep for his combo (dizzy) but
>Nuclear
>Winter Buffalo punch is more faster and Mr.Military receives: 5 points
>of damage
>and Mr.Military stuns.
>Move 4- Nuclear Winter give a Jab punch in dizzy Mr.Military he receive:
>2
>points of damage.
>Move 5- Mr.Miltiary try to make a Back flip kick but Nuclear Winter Jab
>punch is
>more faster and Mr,Military receives: no damage and Mr.Military hit his
>Back
>flip kick move 2 hexes back and Nuclear Winter receives: 2 points of
>damage.
>Move 6- Mr.Military block and Nuclear Winter make a Jab punch but hit
>air.
>Move 7- Mr.Military move 1 hex and make a Foot sweep for his combo
>(dizzy) but
>hit air and Nuclear Winter don´t move and make a Jab punch,
>Move 8- Mr.Military abort Back flip kick and block and Nuclear Winter
>don´t
>move and make a Jab punch but hit air.
>Move 9- Nuclear Winter make a more faster Jab punch than Mr.Military
>Foot sweep
>for his combo (dizzy) he move 1 hex to reach Nuclear Winter and
>Mr.Military
>receives: 1 point of damage and Mr,Military hit his Foot sweep and
>Nuclear
>Winter receives: 2 points of damage and fall at ground.
>Move 10- Nuclear Winter stand up and try to make a Jab punch but
>Mr.Military
>Back flip kick is more faster and Nuclear Winter recieves: 2 points of
>damage
>and stun!!!.
>Move 11- Mr.Military move 2 hexes and make a Roundhouse kick in dizzy
>Nuclear
>Winter he receive: 3 points of damage.
>Move 12- Mr.Military try make a Foot sweep for his combo (dizzy) but
>Nuclear
>Winter jab punch is more faster and Mr.Military receives: 2 points of
>damage and
>Mr.Military hit his Foot sweep and Nuclear Winter receives: 2 points of
>damage
>and is knockdown.
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Actualy, I've made up a nifty maneuver called Future Sense, along with many
other special powers that most players might seek from one time to
another... it's in the Encyclopedia Combatica (don't ask me why I'm
advertising, I don't get paid for this).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy <dlatrex@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:46 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: :"Friendly" Fight 45 Jason Mercer VsWhisper.

>I'm going to have to complain about this one Rinaldo, it just doesn't sound
>Kosher to me.
>You cant have a fighter that can SEE INTO THE FUTURE <unless and Insite
>roll, or you have Mind Reading>. A tactic cannot wait to see if the victim
>Blocks or not, and THEN decide to do the most effective maneuver, such as
>Grab. If you want the character to do this tactic, then they will need Zen
>No Mind (that's what it's for) and they will go at the end of the turn.

Once

>again on the subject of abort maneuvers, I belive as it stands OFFICIALY
>only Block and Jump can be Aborted to....not Rekka Ken, not Knife had
>strike, and CERTAINLY not Brain Cracker.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Move 3- You and he are 5 hexes distance he only move here 4 hexes ahead

in

>your
>> direction and you made dragon punch and now you and he are in same
>distance you
>> hit dragon punch and Jason going back the distance is 1 hex .
>> Move 4- I put notes in npc´s, for Jason the note is if I´m near enough

and

>enemy
>> block abort my current manuver and make Braincracker, this manuver walk
>one hex
>> and the distance between Jason and Whisper are only 1 hex.
>>
>> Azathoth05@... wrote:
>>
>> > Oh, I was referring to this part by the way-
>> >
>> > <Move 3- Jason Mercer move 4 hexes ahead and Whisper move 1 hex make a
>> > Dragon punch Jason Mercer
>> > receives: 5 points of damage and going back 1 hex.
>> > Move 4- Whisper block and Jason Mercer abort his block to make a
>> > Braincracker susteinted hold and
>> > Whisper receives: 4 points of damage and in the final of turn in
>> > strenght conterst to mantain or break
>> > the hold Jason Mercer continues the hold.>
>> >
>> > <HUH? how the hell do you abort to a grab maneuver? Not only that but
>he was
>> > out of range for the brain cracker after my dragon punch pushed him

back

>a
>> > hex. You have to enter the same hex to grab an opponent. Sorry dude
>but
>> > that match was incorrect.>
>> >
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You may, as I interpret the rules, only abort to Jump or Block. If someone
sends in a strategy that aborts to anything else, that player should be
informed that the strategy is wrong, and why, and then asked for a new
strategy. In my humble opinion.

J. Scott Pittman
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 11:42 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: :"Friendly" Fight 45 Jason Mercer VsWhisper.

>I don´t know this I make this because other people do in notes in their
>fighters:
>notes like if he try to grab me jump or if he make a Cartwheel kick change

my

>action to, what you want mean is the tactics are only to be the pure moves

like

>move 1- block
>move 2- jab punch
>move 3- block for combo
>move 4- Hurricane kick
>move 5-8- Repeat stes 1-4
>move 9- Block for combo
>move 10- Hurricane kick
>
>but the notes serve for what only for special cases like arm dislocate what

do

>when knockdown or what do when enemy is dizzy, I think the notes are only

for

>this but many players send me tactics if the topic if this happen... And

when I

>don´t use they will gonna furious with me, but I think anyone can say

future,

>and have the classical case if my enemy use a Fireball jump avoid it, but

abort

>actions is not valid in combat cards game we say our speed and move but if

the

>player didn´t want put in danger his fighter he can abort his move now I

known

>what you want mean.
>
>Andy wrote:
>
>> I'm going to have to complain about this one Rinaldo, it just doesn't

sound

>> Kosher to me.
>> You cant have a fighter that can SEE INTO THE FUTURE <unless and Insite
>> roll, or you have Mind Reading>. A tactic cannot wait to see if the

victim

>> Blocks or not, and THEN decide to do the most effective maneuver, such as
>> Grab. If you want the character to do this tactic, then they will need

Zen

>> No Mind (that's what it's for) and they will go at the end of the turn.

Once

>> again on the subject of abort maneuvers, I belive as it stands OFFICIALY
>> only Block and Jump can be Aborted to....not Rekka Ken, not Knife had
>> strike, and CERTAINLY not Brain Cracker.
>>
>> > Move 3- You and he are 5 hexes distance he only move here 4 hexes ahead

in

>> your
>> > direction and you made dragon punch and now you and he are in same
>> distance you
>> > hit dragon punch and Jason going back the distance is 1 hex .
>> > Move 4- I put notes in npc´s, for Jason the note is if I´m near enough

and

>> enemy
>> > block abort my current manuver and make Braincracker, this manuver walk
>> one hex
>> > and the distance between Jason and Whisper are only 1 hex.
>> >
>> > Azathoth05@... wrote:
>> >
>> > > Oh, I was referring to this part by the way-
>> > >
>> > > <Move 3- Jason Mercer move 4 hexes ahead and Whisper move 1 hex make

a

>> > > Dragon punch Jason Mercer
>> > > receives: 5 points of damage and going back 1 hex.
>> > > Move 4- Whisper block and Jason Mercer abort his block to make a
>> > > Braincracker susteinted hold and
>> > > Whisper receives: 4 points of damage and in the final of turn in
>> > > strenght conterst to mantain or break
>> > > the hold Jason Mercer continues the hold.>
>> > >
>> > > <HUH? how the hell do you abort to a grab maneuver? Not only that

but

>> he was
>> > > out of range for the brain cracker after my dragon punch pushed him

back

>> a
>> > > hex. You have to enter the same hex to grab an opponent. Sorry dude
>> but
>> > > that match was incorrect.>
>> > >
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