I wandered over to Amazon.com today just for the hell of it, and while
browsing their anime I decided to type in "Street Fighter" on a whim.
They actually had entries for the RPG books! Clicking on one gave the
message "This title is out of print. However, we will query our list of
used bookstores in an attempt to find it for you."

So give it a whirl, folks. ya never know, right?
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Might be worth a shot, but evey online book distributor I checked out in the
past has also listed them... they tend to just list entire catalogues of
everything they can find a reference number for, then when someone orders it
they go see if it's available. Woth a shot though... don't forget about
http://www.crazyegors.com where I finally got Contenders.

And what's with these ads all of a sudden?

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Well, a couple months ago I put in my own order for the Storyteller's Screen,
Player's Guide, & Secrets of Shadowloo. They still aren't available. (Tho I
managed to pick up the Screen while in Dallas recently.)
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"alternatively, the opponent can choose not to relocate his arm, however
he can only throw kicks untill they take the time(and the -3 speed
penalty) to pop it back into place"

the penalty is you cant throw punches, the round you pop it back into
place you get -2 damage on punches and -3 speed.


matt
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> i dont have my books with me but doesnt it specifically say what the

penalty is if you leave it out of socket, i coulda swore it did.

no, it doesn't. :/



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while it is unimaginative it is effective, personally i dont think,
"give everyone crappy moves" is a good solution to crappy moves.
there are plenty of moves and no ones gonna miss a little cartwheel
kick. especially in the ame ive dissallowed it in, i allow all my
conversion, no ones hurting for moves(plus all my players agree and
wanted it out)
matt

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In a message dated 10/16/98 1:26:47 AM, cam1984@... writes:

<<the number one counter to the cartwheel kick!

dont allow it in your game!!!!!!

lets not forget"the golden rule" of white wolf.
i personally dont like it because it costs less than a hurricane kick
but is
better in many ways.
i wouldnt mind so much if it was hard to get.
matt

>>

That's rather unimaginative. If your Players use the Cartwheel Kick so
much
remember: Turnabout is Fair Play. Give them a few Opponents with the
Cartwheel Kick and let them deal with it. If they devise a counter let
their
next opponent have the counter. After all, Players are a Storyteller's
best
source of Tricks.



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> Thanx God! SFEX is the most gruesome thing I've ever seen. They manage to
> make a wonderful game (SF) into some crappy 3D game. The only thing I like
> are the hand drawings featured in the game, because the 3D part sux.
>

i dont really like 3d games but i like ex because really, it plays just like a 2 d game, its just a novelty , a breath of fresh air , to see em in polygons(yes even big chunky ones) after playing alpha2 for the 30 billionth time. i feel like i need a screensaver for my friggin eyes or the sprites will be burnt into my retinas!!!:)

> I heard they'll be doing another cd for SF featuring the older games
> (SF1, SF2, Turbo..), but I don't reallt know if it's true.
> SF1 may be a bad game, but it's kind of fun to play. I pnly played it
> twice, once when I went to Mexico and another when I went to the US (this
> game is impossible to find in Brazil).

i heard about the second one to but i heard it was just more of 2 n none of one, i hope 1 is there. i would at least like to play it to convert the moves, a while back i asked you guys if you remembered any of the moves for the guys that never reappeared and noone answered...:(
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uh oh-
i am inigo montoya, you dis my character, prepare to die!
grapplers rule!!!!!!
i have a SCARY zangief and rarely lose with him.
360 moves come with lots of practice and thats why no one likes them, and thats why they get the character inevidably ranked at the bottom of some "goodness table" in a strategy guide.

if you take the time to learn them they are devastating.

its like learning the game all over n since i learned zangief, all the other chatacters seem "weird", probly like zangief seems to you.

heres a few tips, jump at them and do the 360 in the air

jump with a zangief body splash and 360 into siberian bear crusher(run at you one) , it "combos"(unavoidable nearly but not an actual combo)

knee drop to spinning pile driver.?(do the motion in the air)

let a character hit you high with a jump attack and do the 360 while you are in the getting hit or blocking animation. zangief is so tall that by the time they hit the ground from kicking your head, youre not dazed anymore(the jump kick to sweep combo doesnt work)

you can actually combo from the opponents hits. blocked or not, in the hit animation do the 360 motion(the animation of getting hit keeps you on the ground) and before they can pull their limb back you got em.

note:you only have to do a three quarters of the 360 motion, this lets you twirl it from walking at them, to backwards, and continue to up(like sagats old motion for tiger knee ended in up) and by doing this you can do a 360 move without anything to keep you from jumping, you just do it.

i say anyone who think zangief sucks has never played against a good gief, and never taken the time to learn him.

zangief rules!!!
i swear if you just take the time you will be addicted to grapplers like i am!
matt
p.s. i hate it when they make a move that finally breaks the "fireball motion" "d punch motion" "charge 2 second" patern and everyone dises it. its innovative and it only seems hard because its not the exact same motion you practice with almost all the other characters.

> How the hell are you supposed to get close to someone and grab them with
> a 360-degree move or whatever else they give 'em? Come on...

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Attachments :

i dont know if these pics i made will send through findmail, i hope so,
my friends seem to think they are hilarious!
matt

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Hahahahahahahahaha!!! I almost *died* because of laughing too much!!!
Your pics are *really* hilarious!!!

-Remo

"I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
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> Data: Sábado, 17 de Outubro de 1998 02:57
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> i dont know if these pics i made will send through findmail, i hope so,
> my friends seem to think they are hilarious!
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Hello, I've read your message and i'd like to say these:
1) SF1 sucks!! You can not choose your characters, it's got ultra-slow animations and it's really unbalanced. (3 fireballs and they're dead)
2) Darun's actually a really good character. The first time i saw him I was like "oh my god, why the hell did they put him in this?" But when I used him it was a totally different story!! I mean he's got great special moves, powerful (and easy to activate) special throws, excellent super moves and great combos!!
3) R. Mika's cute!!!!!!!!!!! But her butt-check's almost worthless and the frankinsteiner's not that great either, but I think she's really good character because he's cute!!!!!
So anyway, grapplers are cool!!!!



doesnt it seem like all the good video games get cancelled?(rpgs to for this mailing list)

> i so wanted fighter maker to come out so i could make my sf:stg characters on my playstation. but alas, ....
> recently they quit working on thrill kill too.
> i love sf/capcom first n foremost but i was really looking forward to that
> also rival schools got pushed back from the 13th to the 29th.
> oh well,
> i heard capcoms actually doing it instead of letting another company do it for them like they did with sfex+@.
>
> ok ive heard it mentioned and seen a few weird pics online,,, somebody please tell me just what the hell street fighter 2001 or whatever is!!!!!!
>
> am i the only one displeased with street fighter one not being in "street fighter collection"?
> that sux.
> ive never played it.
>
>
> -matt
>
> p.s. why is darun (from ex+@) such a fucking tard? is this the best they can offer us.??
> poor souls who like playing grapplers get stuck with (except for zgief)
> darun, rainbow mika(a3), alex(talks like miheal jackson) .
> and.........(drum roll) HUGO
> ive never seen such a cast of schmendricks in my life!
> its a good thing zangief is so cool cause, damn
>
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> Matt
> You're right man. We need some serious grapplers. That's what's lacking
> in Street Fighter. Darun's in my Black List (most uncool characters of

all

> times) and I like Mika because she looks like a Spice Girl (and I love

the

> Spice Girls).
> But if you see, there are some serious grapplers (although characters
> like Ryu suck. I like Sagat better than Ryu, even though Vega and Rose

are

> the *best*): Thunder Hawk seems serious to me, and another one is the
> "one-of-the-coolest-character-ever" Alex, from Street Fighter 3.
> If you want some really serious grapplers, try The King of Fighters

('98

> is the best one), where you can find serious grapplers, which have a
> serious and deep personality, like Orochi Yashiro, Shermie (who's cute

but

> also a serious characters), Vice (near psychotic and one of the

villains),

> Goro Daimon and some others. If you take a look, looks like SNK likes
> grappler characters better than Capcom.
> Since grapplers are the main topic here, I'll do the following: let's

do

> an election, where everyone can vote on their favorite grappling

characters

> from Fighting games, but please, no obscure fighting games.
> So to vote, you'll need to do the following:
> a. Rank your 5 favorite grappler characters, from 1 to 5.
> b. A character voted as number 1 will count as 5 points, a caharcter

voted

> as #2 counts as 4 and so on, for the purpose of the grand total.
> c. When voting for a character, give his name and after his name, his

game,

> as it follows:
> example: 1. Rainbow Mika (Street Fighter Alpha 3)
> d. Optional: tell why did you vote for that character.
> So, did everyone understand? So, here are my votes:
>
> 1. Vice (The King of Fighters): Vice is beautiful, classy, an Orochi and

a

> hell of a psycho! Do I need to say more? Also her fighting stance in

KoF'98

> is wiiiiillld!
> 2. Blue Mary (The King of Fighters): Cute, sexy and a great Sambo

fighter.

> Her grabs are stunning.
> 3. Shermie (The King of Fighters): Shermie is simply one of the coolest

and

> sexiest characters ever. Who would think that a cutie like her could
> destroy you with a suplex? Also the celular phone taunt is *cool*
> 4. Orochi Yashiro (The King of Fighters): The Guardian of the Earth is a
> *great* grappler. He has powerful and acrobatic grabs and *yet* has a
> stunning outfit and haircut.
> 5. Rainbow Mika (Street Fighter Alpha 3): Mika is cute and looks like a
> Spice Girl. Her wrestling grabs are powerful and have very cool names,

like

> "Daydream Headlock" and "Heavenly Dynamite". This girl rules.
>
> I'll post a compilation of the votes from everyone, in the list, every
> two days, and the election winner will be announced in 11/22/98.
> So, what do you guys think? Let's do it? I look forward to receiving

your

> votes!!!!
> -Remo
>
> "I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
> -- Vice, The King of Fighters '98
>
> ----------
> > ill be the first to tell you grapplers are cool but i just think we

could

> have a few more with SERIOUSNESS. ya know, like a deep character, like

ryu

> or ken. r mika is cute but that doesnt make her a good
> character(speaking in the depth sense of the word character)
> >
> > darun can be a effective character but that does not mean hes not a

dork,

> this goes back to what i said earlier about serious characters.
>

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> I find cutting powers out of the book distasteful, even if

they are not

> properly balanced. I maintain that any system can be

played as written

> if you know how.
>
> (well, Macho Women With Guns began to sorely test my

theory, but we

> won't get into that).
>
> I think today's topic will be Top Ten Ways Hurricanre Kick

is better

> than Cartwheel Kick. :)

Ok, here's my top 10.

1) It can hit more than one person

2) It's so much cooler than the cartwheel kick.

3) Prerequisite for the Air Hurricane Kick

4) You can use it to cross crevices/pits

5) You can tie some brooms to your ankles and clean up the
dojo

6) You can give kids a short (but fun) ride

7) Impossible to sneak up behind you while doing it.

8) You can defy gravity (always a good thing)

9) There's a super based on the Hurricane Kick, there isn't
one for the Cartwheel kick and there never will be.

10) People come up to you and say "Wow! "That's _almost_ as
cool as Chun-Li's kick!"

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> I find cutting powers out of the book distasteful, even if

they are not

> properly balanced. I maintain that any system can be

played as written

> if you know how.
>
> (well, Macho Women With Guns began to sorely test my

theory, but we

> won't get into that).
>
> I think today's topic will be Top Ten Ways Hurricanre Kick

is better

> than Cartwheel Kick. :)

Ok, here's my top 10.

1) It can hit more than one person

2) It's so much cooler than the cartwheel kick.

3) Prerequisite for the Air Hurricane Kick

4) You can use it to cross crevices/pits

5) You can tie some brooms to your ankles and clean up the
dojo

6) You can give kids a short (but fun) ride

7) Impossible to sneak up behind you while doing it.

8) You can defy gravity (always a good thing)

9) There's a super based on the Hurricane Kick, there isn't
one for the Cartwheel kick and there never will be.

10) People come up to you and say "Wow! "That's _almost_ as
cool as Chun-Li's kick!"

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Well, there have been rumors going around about a 6th line of books being
introduced into the White Wolf WoD Setting. Recently, a WWF Character named
Gangrel has been around in the WWF. This character has been CREATED BY White
Wolf. (Co-stars include Edge and Christian.)

Anyone want to lay odds as to the SF line being "revamped" (Bad pun intended)
toward the WWF? Or perhaps a more "mainline" WoD Game? (Keeping closer to the
standard rules)

For those that don't beleive me about this guy being a WW character, go check:
http://www.wwf.com/bios/gangrel.html

El Diablo "Hollywood" Verde!
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I've often wondered about this... I used to interpet the "only throw
kicks" to mean that the fighter could not use Focus powers or Athletics
techniques in addition to the punches, since they require control over
your entire body (Athletics moves do, anyway) and therefore would be
tough to do... but I'd wager some kicks can't be done with a dislocated
arm either; like our beloved Cartwheel Kick. Can you cartwheel with one
arm? Anyway... an argument can be made either way (only kicks, or just
no punches) and I'd been thinking of just judging whether or not you can
do moves on a move-by-move basis... but that's too inconsistent, no?

Matt M. wrote:

>
> "alternatively, the opponent can choose not to relocate his arm, however
> he can only throw kicks untill they take the time(and the -3 speed
> penalty) to pop it back into place"
>
> the penalty is you cant throw punches, the round you pop it back into
> place you get -2 damage on punches and -3 speed.
>
> matt
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I prefer grapplers too. One of the reasons I love the RPG is it lets me
play grapplers the way they were meant to be played.

I hate 360 motions because they're damn near impossible to do on
joypads. I didn't have much trouble in the 'cades, but it's not easy to
do on my Playstation, and that's why it bugs me. :) I have been playing
SF for years, and to this day I have trouble with spinning pile
drivers. They should do more damage too, dammit. :)

cam1984@... wrote:

>
> uh oh-
> i am inigo montoya, you dis my character, prepare to die!
> grapplers rule!!!!!!
> i have a SCARY zangief and rarely lose with him.
> 360 moves come with lots of practice and thats why no one likes them, and thats why they get the character inevidably ranked at the bottom of some "goodness table" in a strategy guide.
>
> if you take the time to learn them they are devastating.
>
> its like learning the game all over n since i learned zangief, all the other chatacters seem "weird", probly like zangief seems to you.
>
> heres a few tips, jump at them and do the 360 in the air
>
> jump with a zangief body splash and 360 into siberian bear crusher(run at you one) , it "combos"(unavoidable nearly but not an actual combo)
>
> knee drop to spinning pile driver.?(do the motion in the air)
>
> let a character hit you high with a jump attack and do the 360 while you are in the getting hit or blocking animation. zangief is so tall that by the time they hit the ground from kicking your head, youre not dazed anymore(the jump kick to sweep combo doesnt work)
>
> you can actually combo from the opponents hits. blocked or not, in the hit animation do the 360 motion(the animation of getting hit keeps you on the ground) and before they can pull their limb back you got em.
>
> note:you only have to do a three quarters of the 360 motion, this lets you twirl it from walking at them, to backwards, and continue to up(like sagats old motion for tiger knee ended in up) and by doing this you can do a 360 move without anything to keep you from jumping, you just do it.
>
> i say anyone who think zangief sucks has never played against a good gief, and never taken the time to learn him.
>
> zangief rules!!!
> i swear if you just take the time you will be addicted to grapplers like i am!
> matt
> p.s. i hate it when they make a move that finally breaks the "fireball motion" "d punch motion" "charge 2 second" patern and everyone dises it. its innovative and it only seems hard because its not the exact same motion you practice with almost all the other characters.
>
> > How the hell are you supposed to get close to someone and grab them with
> > a 360-degree move or whatever else they give 'em? Come on...
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speaking of grapplers, I've been looking at Zangief's entry in chapter 5
and am wondering how the hell he can hold his own against the other
World Warriors with a Dex of two. All he has going for him is a high
Stamina, which against other World Warriors doesn't mean much; he can
only hope a reduced die pool on his opponent's part will cause a Botch
so he can plant 'em in the dirt... and having to rely on the Dice Gods
is no way to fight as a World Warrior.

The only plus side is that he only needs to grab you twice to break you
in half... but all of his grabs will be going off on Speed 1 or 2, or if
he combos, the blazingly-fast 4. Still, even this isn't enough; I've
used the Spinning Pile Driver on people, rolled twelve or thirteen dice
on 'em, and only done two points of damage! (This wasn't Zangief, it was
another Sanbo guy).

So anyway... has anyone actually used Zangief in their stories and had
him actually legitimately kick ass without Storyteller fudging or
resorting to team battles/dishonorable tactics?
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http://php.indiana.edu/~adashiel/wod/wod.html

go to Potpourri/Supernaturals/S for two adaptations of Street Fighters
to the World of Darkness. Not bad for what I believe is a first attempt
at mixing two genres I think should not mix... but one thing that
revision two states is that Elementals are totally unbalancing and
should be banned from even regular Street Fighter games. WTF?! I have
*never* seen an Elemental disrupt a game... this clown thinks hybrids
are okay, though. WTF is THAT? And even better, even though he says
elementals are unbalancing and should be banned, he goes on to say
Street Fighters need all the help they can get against regular WoD
Supernaturals. Geeez... make up yo mind, eh? I think one of us needs
to come up with some real conversion rules to do our game justice and
show this guy up, eh?
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ROFL, well both revisions seem to be written by diehard angstplayers who
never really explored the SF system as anything but a way to further clutter
up their game mechanics, especially the second revisionist ("Zangief uses
his Forward Flip Knee..."). The fact that he thinks hybrids are more
balanced than the obviously incredibly powerful Elementalists is proof of
this... he just assigned elementalist attacks to be aggravated, etc., and
didn't look any further. Yawn.

As I am a self-proclaimed WoD detractor, I can't really do this conversion,
but would be interested to see what people come up with. Then I'll bring
Senor Mezcalito into angstworld and acid breath everyone I see wearing black
nail polish and mascara. 8P

Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen wrote:

> http://php.indiana.edu/~adashiel/wod/wod.html
>
> go to Potpourri/Supernaturals/S for two adaptations of Street Fighters
> to the World of Darkness. Not bad for what I believe is a first attempt
> at mixing two genres I think should not mix... but one thing that
> revision two states is that Elementals are totally unbalancing and
> should be banned from even regular Street Fighter games. WTF?! I have
> *never* seen an Elemental disrupt a game... this clown thinks hybrids
> are okay, though. WTF is THAT? And even better, even though he says
> elementals are unbalancing and should be banned, he goes on to say
> Street Fighters need all the help they can get against regular WoD
> Supernaturals. Geeez... make up yo mind, eh? I think one of us needs
> to come up with some real conversion rules to do our game justice and
> show this guy up, eh?

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---Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen <skarsten@...>
wrote:

>
> http://php.indiana.edu/~adashiel/wod/wod.html
>
> go to Potpourri/Supernaturals/S for two adaptations of

Street Fighters

> to the World of Darkness. Not bad for what I believe is a

first attempt

> at mixing two genres I think should not mix... but one

thing that

> revision two states is that Elementals are totally

unbalancing and

> should be banned from even regular Street Fighter games.

WTF?! I have

> *never* seen an Elemental disrupt a game... this clown

thinks hybrids

> are okay, though. WTF is THAT? And even better, even

though he says

> elementals are unbalancing and should be banned, he goes

on to say

> Street Fighters need all the help they can get against

regular WoD

> Supernaturals. Geeez... make up yo mind, eh? I think one

of us needs

> to come up with some real conversion rules to do our game

justice and

> show this guy up, eh?

I think he was refering to fire elementals and that fire is
aggrevated damage to just about every supernatual outside of
street fighters.

That's just my guess

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Freud would have a field day analyzing your secret love of female
grapplers. But, I digress.

1) Bayman, from Dead or Alive. Bayman is Combat Sambo, and his fighting
style is sickly flexible and powerful. His grabs are utterly painful
and if it weren't for being a video game, you *know* your limbs would be
broken at the joints when this was over from the crunching sound alone.
A highly accurate representation of a *very* cool style and a great
character to boot.

2) Ryoko, from Fighter's History. Where else can a nine-year-old girl
kick a big Hungrian guy's ass? Her moves are simple and effective, and
her Storm Mountain Throw rocks.

3) Tina, from Dead or Alive. Her pro-wrestling style includes a lot of
nice back-bridging maneuvers, aerial flips, and bodyslams. She
compliments this with a wide variety of strikes and speed, making her
tough to get near. Hits hard, too. Plus, she has a sexy voice, great
body, and spandex outfits. Mmm.

4) Zangief. He was the first, and his moves are simple and impressive,
even though they don't hurt as much as they used to.

5) Darun. Sorry folks, Darun is a well-rounded fighter with some
impressive moves, and big Turkish guys have been sorely missing in the
SF series. I'm glad there's *some* diversity in addition to all the
Shotokan clones, even if they get shafted.

REMO DISCONZI wrote:

>
> > Matt
> > You're right man. We need some serious grapplers. That's what's lacking
> > in Street Fighter. Darun's in my Black List (most uncool characters of
> all
> > times) and I like Mika because she looks like a Spice Girl (and I love
> the
> > Spice Girls).
> > But if you see, there are some serious grapplers (although characters
> > like Ryu suck. I like Sagat better than Ryu, even though Vega and Rose
> are
> > the *best*): Thunder Hawk seems serious to me, and another one is the
> > "one-of-the-coolest-character-ever" Alex, from Street Fighter 3.
> > If you want some really serious grapplers, try The King of Fighters
> ('98
> > is the best one), where you can find serious grapplers, which have a
> > serious and deep personality, like Orochi Yashiro, Shermie (who's cute
> but
> > also a serious characters), Vice (near psychotic and one of the
> villains),
> > Goro Daimon and some others. If you take a look, looks like SNK likes
> > grappler characters better than Capcom.
> > Since grapplers are the main topic here, I'll do the following: let's
> do
> > an election, where everyone can vote on their favorite grappling
> characters
> > from Fighting games, but please, no obscure fighting games.
> > So to vote, you'll need to do the following:
> > a. Rank your 5 favorite grappler characters, from 1 to 5.
> > b. A character voted as number 1 will count as 5 points, a caharcter
> voted
> > as #2 counts as 4 and so on, for the purpose of the grand total.
> > c. When voting for a character, give his name and after his name, his
> game,
> > as it follows:
> > example: 1. Rainbow Mika (Street Fighter Alpha 3)
> > d. Optional: tell why did you vote for that character.
> > So, did everyone understand? So, here are my votes:
> >

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People
Here it is, the "Coolest of the Cool" context for GRAPPLERS!!! As far as
it goes, only me and Steve voted. Where are the other's votes??? Okay, here
we go with our first ranking:

1st Place

Vice (The King of Fighters) 5 pts.
Bayman (Dead or Alive) 5 pts.

2nd Place

Blue Mary (The King of Fighters) 4 pts.
Ryoko (Fighter's History) 4 pts.

3rd Place

Shermie (The King of Fighters) 3 pts.
Tina (Dead or Alive) 3 pts.

4th Place

Orochi Yashiro (The King of Fighters) 2 pts.
Zangief (Street Fighter) 2 pts.

5th Place

Rainbow Mika (SF Zero 3) 1 pt.
Darun (SF EX) 1 pt.

Here it is. The first results. Send in your vote and in 2 days you'll see
a new ranking!!!

-Remo

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OKay

Here's my top 5 pix for best grappler:

1st - Clark Steel, KoF He's big, he's strong, and yet
for some reason, he's NOT slow! One of the most underplayed
characters in the series in my eyes. He's a great grappler,
with just enough 'striking' moves to keep you opponent off balance.

2nd- Alex, SF3 He's Bigger, he's stronger, and he looks like
Axl (Guns & Roses) on Steroids. What's not to like!
Welcome to the Jungle Baby!, You can't escapse!

3rd- Blue Mary, Fatal Fury/KoF Quick, agile, & ow, she just
popped what outa socket? Wow, that's gotta huirt!

4th- Zangief, SF2 The man that started it all. Yeah, he might
be kinda predictable now, and he sure as hell is S-L-O-W, but
who cares. This level of cool you just can't buy in stores.

5th- Ryoko, Fighter's History This was the 1st 'fast but weak' grappler
I EVER saw, and man did she make my eyes open wide. I'm still
disgusted by some of the amazing BS my friend could pull with her.
She's become a staple NPC in my folder, and tend to pull her
out whenever I need to put a PC back in line.
"Aw cut it out now, I don't wann hurt you kid.... Whooohooo HEY!!!
OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW" Ka-THUD!!!!!

-Laters all!
-Chris!

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As more votes arrived, let's see how it is now:

1st Place

Blue Mary (KoF) 7 pts.
Looks like Mary darling really *is* popular around here!

2nd Place

Vice (KoF) 5 pts.
The insane KoF female and sexy grappler drops down one position!
Bayman (Dead or Alive) 5 pts.
Clark (KoF) 5 pts.
Hey! Looks like KoF has the best grapplers after all..
Ryoko (Fighter's History) 5 pts.
Even though she comes from a rather obscure (and old) game her popularity
keeps growing!!

3rd. Place

Alex (SF 3) 4 pts.
Zangief (SF Series) 4 pts.
Even being an ugly and dumb fighter, he is still a classical one.

4th Place

Shermie (KoF) 3 pts.
Where are all the Shermie fans?? Show up!! Let's put Shermie in the First
Place!!!
Tina (Dead or Alive) 3 pts.

5th Place

Orochi Yashiro (KoF) 2 pts.
The macho guardian of the earth doesn't seem to be that popular..

6th Place

R. Mika (SF Zero 3) 1 pt.
Where are you Spice Girls fans??
Darun (SF EX) 1 pt.

We've got a multiple tie in the 2nd position! Let's untie that!! Vote
Vice!! Will Mary keep on leading? Send in your votes and let's find out!!

-Remo

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Errr, personelly, I think that grapplers are really sucky, no offense.
I know how to work them, I'm just not that type of player that wants to
get in real close to have to hurt an enemy. I like to feel ashured that
I can hurt someone and have enough options to dodge their counter
attacks. Course, I'm a Ryu and Sakura type person.



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Anyway, when I started this whole thing, I asked you guys for *voting* on
grapplers, since they were the main topic around here some days ago.
If you wanna hear the truth, I think Ryu is a putz, with a ridiculous
soiled gi and a pitiful haircut. Same thing you can say about Sakura, who's
obviously a *dork* (Karin will kick her ass anytime) and I think Blue Mary
could beat them both, anytime, anyplace.
Next time you want to put grapplers (who are *obviously* cool) down, at
least use some cool characters when doing it, okay? Not that grapplers are
my favorite type (I loove Vega) but they're cool anyway.
Still waiting for more votes fro the "Coolest of the Cool"!!!

-Remo

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-- Vice, The King of Fighters '98

> Errr, personelly, I think that grapplers are really sucky, no offense.
> I know how to work them, I'm just not that type of player that wants to
> get in real close to have to hurt an enemy. I like to feel ashured that
> I can hurt someone and have enough options to dodge their counter
> attacks. Course, I'm a Ryu and Sakura type person.
>

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Okay, in addition to King of Grapplers '98, we need a second poll for
King of the Shotokan fighters. Of course, we can't judge them on their
moves (they all have fireballs and Dragon Punches, naturally), nor can
we judge them on their appearance, as Sakura is the only one who doesn't
wear a gi... so we have to go on character alone. Erm... okay...
they're all dedicated fighters with something to prove. Except Sakura.
Hmm. Problem here.

Okay, forget I said anything.

Ryu Saotome wrote:

>
> Errr, personelly, I think that grapplers are really sucky, no offense.
> I know how to work them, I'm just not that type of player that wants to
> get in real close to have to hurt an enemy. I like to feel ashured that
> I can hurt someone and have enough options to dodge their counter
> attacks. Course, I'm a Ryu and Sakura type person.
>
> "Whats wrong? Why do you hold back?"
> - Ryu Hoshi, Street Fighter Alpha
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Don't be dissin' Sakura.

REMO DISCONZI wrote:

>
> Anyway, when I started this whole thing, I asked you guys for *voting* on
> grapplers, since they were the main topic around here some days ago.
> If you wanna hear the truth, I think Ryu is a putz, with a ridiculous
> soiled gi and a pitiful haircut. Same thing you can say about Sakura, who's
> obviously a *dork* (Karin will kick her ass anytime) and I think Blue Mary
> could beat them both, anytime, anyplace.
> Next time you want to put grapplers (who are *obviously* cool) down, at
> least use some cool characters when doing it, okay? Not that grapplers are
> my favorite type (I loove Vega) but they're cool anyway.
> Still waiting for more votes fro the "Coolest of the Cool"!!!
>
> -Remo
>
> "I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
> -- Vice, The King of Fighters '98
>
> > Errr, personelly, I think that grapplers are really sucky, no offense.
> > I know how to work them, I'm just not that type of player that wants to
> > get in real close to have to hurt an enemy. I like to feel ashured that
> > I can hurt someone and have enough options to dodge their counter
> > attacks. Course, I'm a Ryu and Sakura type person.
> >
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Ya know, it's so nice when we can all sit down and talk about these
things without resorting to insults...

Here's my listing of who I like. They're not all grapplers, or shotokan
fighters, or anything else. These are the guys I enjoy using when I
play. That's it.

1. Basara from Samurai Showdown III - Yeah, he's a Crow wannabe. But he
does it so _well_. I've actually translated his fighting style to
SF:STG. A fast guy with a big, cool looking weapon.

2. Sagat from Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold - He's big, he hits hard, and
he's got a great storyline in this one. Now, if he was a bit faster...

3. Kayin Amoh from Battle Arena Toshinden 3 - Fast, has a sword, and
just generally fun. Cool mixing of responsibilty and irresponsibilty in
his personality, too.

4. D. Dark from StreetFighter EX Plus Alpha - Yeah, he's a shotokan guy.
But he's semi-intelligent, too. Now if you could just get him to throw
those bombs at his opponent...

5. Guy from StreetFighter Alpha 2 Gold - Fast...but no cool weapons, and
his moves just don't have the flash to them to make me want to do them.
But he is fast. And I do miss Final Fight...

6. Blanka from StreetFighter II - Yes, that one. The original. I still
have the SNES cartridge, and I still love this guy. Reasonably strong,
fast, and good reach.

7. Chun-Li from StreetFighter II - When I bought this game, I felt she
was overly-powerful because I beat the game using her so easily. Ah
well. Great speed, good strength on those kicks. Punch? Why? Oh yeah.
Air throw. heh heh.

8. Jago from Killer Instinct - Shotokan fighter clone with what I think
is a cooler hurricane kick, and a SWORD! I just wanna play, doin' those
20-hit combos all day...

9. Rain from Mortal Kombat Trilogy - Clones seem to be everywhere. Yeah,
it's MK. But, he's got lightning (woo!) and one of those outfits that
look kinda cool, 'cept in RL when done badly with felt. Echh.

10. Taria of Mace: The Dark Ages - Fast, strong, sword AND dagger, plus
magic. And she looks pretty good. The ability to turn your opponent into
a chicken is great. And the electrical 'pit' on her stage is fun.

That's it. My top ten. Don't vote on it, it's not changing unless I
change my votes. Just ten fighters I like.

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Joshua Rogers wrote:

>
> Ya know, it's so nice when we can all sit down and talk about these
> things without resorting to insults...
>

are you being sarcastic?

heh. Anyway, to tie this all together and bring it back onto the topic
of Street Fighter: The STORYTELLING Game, I think what we have to
examine here is just why we find a character cool. Given the context of
the storytelling game and not the video game, it has to be because of
that character's appearance, style, and personality. They all come
together. Grapplers, it seems, are interesting characters due to the
sheer variety of them; but given the mechanics of most fighting games,
grapplers rarely see their full potential. People like to play them,
but are frustrated that their favorite character cannot compete because
it's no fun to lose all the time. Hence, their popularity in the
storytelling game; a grappler can be played to his full potential in
that setting. Shotokan Karate, on the other hand, lends itself to a
certain style of play, and Capcom's character designs don't do anything
to break this mold. Sakura is probably the only Shotokan fighter in the
mix who doesn't wear a gi and fall under the "I wanna be a grim and
taciturn fighter like Ryu" stereotype.

So this begs the question; who has broken form with the various styles
and created characters that did *not* fit the stereotype of their
style? Any male Wu Shu masters out there? Female Sanbo wrestlers?
Jeet Kun Do fighters who *didn't* wish they were Bruce Lee? Let's hear
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I played a Sanbo gal for a long time. Her name's Natassia Rossovich, and
she's a Russian fashion model. She used to have a problem with a fellow
fashion model, Manoel "El Diablo" who was a Savate fag. After *lots* of
game sessions of taunting and challenging, Natassia and "El Diablo" finally
fought and.. Natassia won! Thanx to my Slide Kick to Suplex to Siberian
Suplex combo!!
I did a drawing of her, but I think I lost it. When I find it, I'll tell
you and those who want to see it, just talk to me, ok? She may be tall, but
she's really *hot*!

-Remo

"I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
-- Vice, The King of Fighters '98

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> De: Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen <skarsten@...>
> Para: Joshua Rogers <tkshockwave@...>
> Cc: streetfighter@...
> Assunto: [streetfighter] Re: Coolest of the Cool
> Data: Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 1998 17:09
>
> Joshua Rogers wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, it's so nice when we can all sit down and talk about these
> > things without resorting to insults...
> >
>
> are you being sarcastic?
>
> heh. Anyway, to tie this all together and bring it back onto the topic
> of Street Fighter: The STORYTELLING Game, I think what we have to
> examine here is just why we find a character cool. Given the context of
> the storytelling game and not the video game, it has to be because of
> that character's appearance, style, and personality. They all come
> together. Grapplers, it seems, are interesting characters due to the
> sheer variety of them; but given the mechanics of most fighting games,
> grapplers rarely see their full potential. People like to play them,
> but are frustrated that their favorite character cannot compete because
> it's no fun to lose all the time. Hence, their popularity in the
> storytelling game; a grappler can be played to his full potential in
> that setting. Shotokan Karate, on the other hand, lends itself to a
> certain style of play, and Capcom's character designs don't do anything
> to break this mold. Sakura is probably the only Shotokan fighter in the
> mix who doesn't wear a gi and fall under the "I wanna be a grim and
> taciturn fighter like Ryu" stereotype.
>
> So this begs the question; who has broken form with the various styles
> and created characters that did *not* fit the stereotype of their
> style? Any male Wu Shu masters out there? Female Sanbo wrestlers?
> Jeet Kun Do fighters who *didn't* wish they were Bruce Lee? Let's hear
> it!
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Wow. Only Sanbo woman I ever created was done specifically to break my
players of the drool habit; every female fighter in existence was to be
hit on, leered at, and begged for a Thigh Press. So I created Olga.
Olga, apart from her sex, was a typical Sanbo wrestler; big, beefy, not
too bright, and smelled more than a little bit from training in
Siberia. She also had all of my players' favorite "Ooh, she's gonna get
me in that!" moves like the Thigh Press, Bear Hug, Brain Cracker,
Sleeper (stinky pits of the world, unite!) and a number of others. I
think I even gave her the Head Bite, just because. :) Unfortunately, I
have yet to unleash her on the Street Fighting world, but I can
guarantee you this; they'll never look forward to fighting a female
grappler again.

REMO DISCONZI wrote:

>
> I played a Sanbo gal for a long time. Her name's Natassia Rossovich, and
> she's a Russian fashion model. She used to have a problem with a fellow
> fashion model, Manoel "El Diablo" who was a Savate fag. After *lots* of
> game sessions of taunting and challenging, Natassia and "El Diablo" finally
> fought and.. Natassia won! Thanx to my Slide Kick to Suplex to Siberian
> Suplex combo!!
> I did a drawing of her, but I think I lost it. When I find it, I'll tell
> you and those who want to see it, just talk to me, ok? She may be tall, but
> she's really *hot*!
>
> -Remo
>
> "I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
> -- Vice, The King of Fighters '98
>
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> > De: Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen <skarsten@...>
> > Para: Joshua Rogers <tkshockwave@...>
> > Cc: streetfighter@...
> > Assunto: [streetfighter] Re: Coolest of the Cool
> > Data: Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 1998 17:09
> >
> > Joshua Rogers wrote:
> > >
> > > Ya know, it's so nice when we can all sit down and talk about these
> > > things without resorting to insults...
> > >
> >
> > are you being sarcastic?
> >
> > heh. Anyway, to tie this all together and bring it back onto the topic
> > of Street Fighter: The STORYTELLING Game, I think what we have to
> > examine here is just why we find a character cool. Given the context of
> > the storytelling game and not the video game, it has to be because of
> > that character's appearance, style, and personality. They all come
> > together. Grapplers, it seems, are interesting characters due to the
> > sheer variety of them; but given the mechanics of most fighting games,
> > grapplers rarely see their full potential. People like to play them,
> > but are frustrated that their favorite character cannot compete because
> > it's no fun to lose all the time. Hence, their popularity in the
> > storytelling game; a grappler can be played to his full potential in
> > that setting. Shotokan Karate, on the other hand, lends itself to a
> > certain style of play, and Capcom's character designs don't do anything
> > to break this mold. Sakura is probably the only Shotokan fighter in the
> > mix who doesn't wear a gi and fall under the "I wanna be a grim and
> > taciturn fighter like Ryu" stereotype.
> >
> > So this begs the question; who has broken form with the various styles
> > and created characters that did *not* fit the stereotype of their
> > style? Any male Wu Shu masters out there? Female Sanbo wrestlers?
> > Jeet Kun Do fighters who *didn't* wish they were Bruce Lee? Let's hear
> > it!
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In my campaigns, there are several kinds of NPCs, but the most dangerous
ones are: the GIRLS and the BISHONEN GUYS. If you ever see a girl fighter
or a pretty boy using eyeliner, run for your life baby!! But I guess I'll
try making an ugly girl, although the closer to it that I did was a team
named "The Slice Girls", featuring a Lua punk rocker, Sarah Lee, and two
psycho ninja twins, extremely *hot* and dressed in black leather, Sliver
and Killer Bee.

-Remo

"I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
-- Vice, The King of Fighters '98

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> De: Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen <skarsten@...>
> Para: REMO DISCONZI <Smash@...>
> Cc: Joshua Rogers <tkshockwave@...>; streetfighter@...
> Assunto: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Coolest of the Cool
> Data: Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 1998 17:41
>
> Wow. Only Sanbo woman I ever created was done specifically to break my
> players of the drool habit; every female fighter in existence was to be
> hit on, leered at, and begged for a Thigh Press. So I created Olga.
> Olga, apart from her sex, was a typical Sanbo wrestler; big, beefy, not
> too bright, and smelled more than a little bit from training in
> Siberia. She also had all of my players' favorite "Ooh, she's gonna get
> me in that!" moves like the Thigh Press, Bear Hug, Brain Cracker,
> Sleeper (stinky pits of the world, unite!) and a number of others. I
> think I even gave her the Head Bite, just because. :) Unfortunately, I
> have yet to unleash her on the Street Fighting world, but I can
> guarantee you this; they'll never look forward to fighting a female
> grappler again.
>
> REMO DISCONZI wrote:
> >
> > I played a Sanbo gal for a long time. Her name's Natassia Rossovich,

and

> > she's a Russian fashion model. She used to have a problem with a fellow
> > fashion model, Manoel "El Diablo" who was a Savate fag. After *lots* of
> > game sessions of taunting and challenging, Natassia and "El Diablo"

finally

> > fought and.. Natassia won! Thanx to my Slide Kick to Suplex to Siberian
> > Suplex combo!!
> > I did a drawing of her, but I think I lost it. When I find it, I'll

tell

> > you and those who want to see it, just talk to me, ok? She may be tall,

but

> > she's really *hot*!
> >
> > -Remo
> >
> > "I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
> > -- Vice, The King of Fighters '98
> >
> > ----------
> > > De: Steve 'Doom Trooper' Karstensen <skarsten@...>
> > > Para: Joshua Rogers <tkshockwave@...>
> > > Cc: streetfighter@...
> > > Assunto: [streetfighter] Re: Coolest of the Cool
> > > Data: Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 1998 17:09
> > >
> > > Joshua Rogers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ya know, it's so nice when we can all sit down and talk about these
> > > > things without resorting to insults...
> > > >
> > >
> > > are you being sarcastic?
> > >
> > > heh. Anyway, to tie this all together and bring it back onto the

topic

> > > of Street Fighter: The STORYTELLING Game, I think what we have to
> > > examine here is just why we find a character cool. Given the context

of

> > > the storytelling game and not the video game, it has to be because of
> > > that character's appearance, style, and personality. They all come
> > > together. Grapplers, it seems, are interesting characters due to the
> > > sheer variety of them; but given the mechanics of most fighting

games,

> > > grapplers rarely see their full potential. People like to play them,
> > > but are frustrated that their favorite character cannot compete

because

> > > it's no fun to lose all the time. Hence, their popularity in the
> > > storytelling game; a grappler can be played to his full potential in
> > > that setting. Shotokan Karate, on the other hand, lends itself to a
> > > certain style of play, and Capcom's character designs don't do

anything

> > > to break this mold. Sakura is probably the only Shotokan fighter in

the

> > > mix who doesn't wear a gi and fall under the "I wanna be a grim and
> > > taciturn fighter like Ryu" stereotype.
> > >
> > > So this begs the question; who has broken form with the various

styles

> > > and created characters that did *not* fit the stereotype of their
> > > style? Any male Wu Shu masters out there? Female Sanbo wrestlers?
> > > Jeet Kun Do fighters who *didn't* wish they were Bruce Lee? Let's

hear

> > > it!
> > >

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I recently dressed up the cheesy home page to make it easier for people
to navigate to even more obscure and uninteresting sections of my site.
I don't check certain sections of it very often (notably the extensive
maneuver listings), and I know that occasionally pages become corrupted,
so if anyone sees a broken link or other weirdness, please spam me about
it and I'll fix it ASAP. Hope this stuff proves useful to you.

http://www.accessgate.net/howard/rpg/sfstg.html <--- direct to SFSTG
section

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Hi,

CAVEAT LECTOR

Before reading this message, you should all be aware that this is a NEW
campaign setting and is intended only for Storytellers. Players can read
it if they want, but it's going to be much less fun that way.

STREET FIGHTER: NEW LEGENDS

STORYLINE/SETTING:
Years after his defeat at the hands of Ryu, Bison and his criminal
organization Shadolu have risen from the ashes. Thier goal: take revenge
upon the fighters who brought about their downfall and crush them and
their ilk.
Ryu, the Grand Champion, has disappeared suddenly and all wonder whether
or not Shadolu has already taken its veangeance upon him.
MEanwhile, Shadolu unleashes its new and terrible enforcers: the Cadre.
Born from the remnants of the Revenants, the Cadre are the culimnation
of PSychopower and Dark Science.
Now, World Warriors and common Street Fighters alike must band together
and destroy Shadolu, once and for all.

DETAILS:
New Legends is a new campaign setting intended for expert/high-level
players. My reasoning is that once your characters reach a high enough
level, the enemies and foot soldiers in the sourcebooks are just not
going to be able to provide enough of a challenge. Also, the change in
Storyline is to shake up the world most players have become comfortable
with by now.

Basically, New Legends takes place only a little while after Street
Fighter Three, which I grudgingly have to accept as part of the SF
universe. This storyline meshes every SF game since Super SF, including
the Alpha series and EX Plus Alpha.

You can also use just about any and all of the new character conversions
found on CHris Hoffman's page and Ewen CLuney's as well.
IF you want to modify any of the pre-existing World Warriors for this
game, you simply just add another dot to all of their stats. That should
give you and idea of how high the bar is raised for this new setting.

Story Bits for Storytellers. (PLAYERS GO NO FURTHER)

Some things of interest for GMs who want to run this game.

Bison is dead.

Whoa, huh? :)

After meeting his end, mysteriously (?) Bison has been replaced by his
protege, NExus. Nexus is just as cruel, if not more so, than Bison ever
was and sports a new variety of techniques. But for those of you who
want to use him right away, he's essentially Bison with at least one or
two added to all of his stats.

RYU is MISSING.

One of the main subplots for this campaign is the fact that RYu, the
Grand Champion has just disappeared off the face of the Earth. His
protege, Sakura, who is now 21, has been searching for him ever since he
vanished.

New tournament bracket: THe New Challengers.

Long story short, if most of your characters are almost-but-not-quite
World Warriors, this is a great new way to provide a challenge and not
make it quite so easy.

The NC tournament circuit is one made up of mostly the proteges and star
pupils of the Current World Warriors. They include: Sakura, Sean from
SF3, and Harpol Jaliwhal (Dahlsim's student from the PLayers' Handbook.)

THE CADRE and the CYCLOIDS

The Cadre are intended to make Revenants look like preschoolers. Cadre
are teh new elite force of Shadoloo, biogenetically engineered with data
gathered from all the World Warriors (storyline a la SF the Animated
movie). When out on the street, they wear black or navy blue
trenchcoats. When in battle, they wear body armor akin to that of the AD
Police from BUbblegum Crisis (pick it up sometimes it's a great series).
Unlike the Revenants, the Cadre look almost completely normal. No
glowing blues eyes as a dead giveaway.

There are three types of Cadre:

CADRE BETA: The Garden Variety cadre. All physical and mental stats are
at three, and they can possess all common maneuvers. Cadre BEta are
grunts, much like the Revenants, and obey only NExus' bidding.

CADRE ALPHA: These Cadre are a bit tougher, show a bit more initiative
and all battle-relevant stats are at 4. They possess any techniques that
theirs stats allow. They are still thralls to Nexus' whim.

CADRE PRIME: The deadliest of the lot. Cadre Primes are either fighters
who volunteered or were duped into under going the "treatment", or they
were Cadre who somehow evolved a true sense of consciousness. They more
or less serve as Overlords over the rest of the Cadre. All stats are at
5, and can possess all but the rarest of techniques.

The Cadre: you don't want to mess with them.

CYCLOIDS

Straight from SF EX + @, the Cycloids are borne of Shadoloo's advances
in technology. In my storyline, they were the next step up on those
androids used in the Animated movie.

But as far as the game goes, they're a great plot device to pull out
just to freak complacent players. All you do is give a Cycloid any old
technique you feel like givin' up at the time, with the exception of any
focus maneuvers. Cycloids are robots after all. But, you can give them
any focus tecnique that you feel can be plausibly replicated
artificially (teleport, ice blast, etc.)
NEat little tricks that Cycloids possess are:

1: They cannot be dizzied.
2. The get no speed penalties with a Kippup.
3. They can replicate any move used on them.
4. When defeated, they explode, causing damage to its surrounding hexes.
Storyteller's discreation on how to determine damage.

Well, that's all for right now, kids. This was just a quick-and-dirty
version of what I'm working on. I'll be back with more ASAP.

Dare

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I guess the most interesting NPC's I've used are JAmes and Carolina
Redhawk.

Born from the Apache Nation, the Redhawks are a brother and sister teams
who left their tribe for the military (actually, James wanted to go,
Carolina just followed along at her tribe's request. Seems that James
was a bit of a nontraditionalist. To leave their particular tribe for
the White Man's world was something of an insult. Carolina went along as
part of some obscure rule to keep him from being disowned by the Tribe.
Realistic as to Native American tradition? No way. But I watch a lot of
anime filled with plots like this :)

Anyway, the two of them ended up in Guiles Special Forces Unit and are
now part of the hand-to-hand combat detail. They fight using a hybrid of
Special Forces and Native American Wrestling. If anyone wants thier
exact stats, mail me.

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As more votes arrived, there has been some drastic changes in our
ranking, as you're about to see now:

1st Place

Bayman (Dead or Alive) 10 pts.
Bayman seems to be *really* cool!! I've never played the game, but I
guess I feel like playing it right now, for no reason.. :)

2nd Place

Zangief (SF Series) 8 pts.
Another one who got some more points here! Looks like Sanbo guys are
*in*!!! And, afterwards, Zangief is one of the first grapplers!!!

3rd Place

Blue Mary (KoF, Fatal Fury) 7 pts.
Wow! This one got down TWO positions! Hey people, let's support Mary!
Alex (SF 3) 7 pts.
The all-American guy is getting more popular! Taking a look at Bayman and
him, one thing can be told: grapplers in military uniform seem to be cool.

4th Place

Vice (KoF '96, KoF '98) 5 pts.
Not so popular as I thought.. but a hell of a psycho!
Clark Steel (KoF Series) 5 pts.
It looks like SNK grapplers are no match for CAPCOM grapplers.. will
anyone prove me wrong?
Ryoko (Fighter's History) 5 pts.
The first-ever quick and weak grappler also drops down some positions..
Tina (Dead or Alive) 5 pts.
Another one who increased her score! This Dead or Alive grapplers are
seeming to be the best around here!

5th Place

Shermie (KoF '97, KoF '98) 3 pts.
Cute girls doesn't seem to be the right people for being grapplers.

6th Place

Orochi Yashiro (KoF'97, KoF'98) 2 pts.
The vocalist of the Nanakase Band drops down another position!

7th Place

Rainbow Mika (SF Zero 3) 1 pt.
Unpopular because of: a) Coming from a new game; b) Looking like a Spice
Girl; c) Not being effective enough? None of them above. What's the matter
with Mika anyway?
Darun (SF EX) 1 pt.
That mustache doesn't look cool..
Hulk (Marvel Superheroes) 1 pt.
???? When I received this vote, I made me confused...

These are the votes! Let's try to untie the 4th Place!!! If you wish to
participate, just post your vote in the list or send me it in private!
Remember, tell the name of the grappler, the game of origin and tell why
did you choose him/her!!!

-Remo

"I guess I am thru. There are no more bones to break."
-- Vice, The King of Fighters '98
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> 1. Basara from Samurai Showdown III - Yeah, he's a Crow wannabe. But he
> does it so _well_. I've actually translated his fighting style to
> SF:STG. A fast guy with a big, cool looking weapon.

Can you send me Basara's translated Style? I also like him!!!

-Remo
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