Sorry Steve really bad mandarin pingying.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:01:20 -0400
>
>dweh.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:11 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
>
>
>
>Darrick, Ni hoyshwo jongguo ren ma?
> Do you speak chinese?
>
>
> >From: "Darrick Chen" <dare2live@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
> >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:04:15 PDT
> >
> >Well, as far as the amrtial arts go, I've had a very eclectic experience.
> >
> >My formal training comes in the form of Tai CHi Ch'uan, Northern Shaolin
> >Long Fist Boxing, and some Tae Kwon Do.
> >
> >As far as informal training, I've learned various techniques from Muay
> >Thai,
> >Judo, Jujutsu, Aikido, Ninjutsu, a smattering of Savate, and I've been
> >known
> >to dabble in Capoeira.
> >
> >I'm a bit of a martial arts scholar, more so than a practitioner. I am at
> >least passingly aware of the many and diverse fighting styles, even many
>of
> >the obscure esoteric ones from the unlikliest places; like Egypt,
> >Czechoslovakia, and Iceland.
> >
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Hey steve this is just a letter to say congradulations on the engagement and
the Raise.

ROb

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Hey guys sorry I havnt been around for a while

Rinaldo. Youll find I sent you the rules for tournamnet experiance that we
agreed upon.

Secondly here are the time learning rules from The perfect Warrior


LEARNING NEW MOVES
In real life, training in the martial arts is a life long process;
it takes months or even years to learn, let alone master, a new technique.
However, the street fighter world is a little more forgiving: Street
Fighters who are dedicated and study hard can learn new manuevers much
faster. In terms of game mechanics, if a kung fu practitioner has 16 free
experiance points, she can theoretically learn the Rising Storm Crow
immediatly.

But this doesnt really make for a very satisfying story-if it was so easy to
master everybody would know it! It is reccomended that story tellers require
a character to train for a long time before he can automattically succeed at
preforming the new manuever. A good length of time is one month of tough
training for every two experiance points that the manuever costs to buy.
Thus, in the case of the Risong Storm Crow, eight months of dedicated
practice would make the character a master of this maneuver.

During the intervening period, the character can attempt the maneuver at any
time. This requires two tests. The first is to determine how capable the
character is of performing this maneuver. Roll wits plus the most difficult
technique the manuever is based on (Athletics or grab in the case of the
rising storm crow), with difficulty equal to the number of months remain;
the minimum difficulty must be 3. If the first test succesds, the character
is then able to attempt the maneuver normally with a second test; if the
first test is failed, the maneuver's speed, move and damage of a succesful
second test are all halved. If either test is botched, the maneuver fails
spectacularly, leaving the character in a vulnerable(and embarrasing)
position.

This method can also be used to simulate characters learning of maneuvers of
maneuvers that they are saving up experiance points for.
If a character has six points and is saving up for a 12 point maneuver, The
storyteller may allow her to start learning it. However
, all of the characters free experiance must go towards that maneuver until
it is completely paid off, and the character can only learn one new maneuver
at a time this way.


Ok guys ther you go.
Hopefully Ill be scanning those maps I promised and the Ad in the old WW
magazine about shadows over mexico.

Can anyone tell me what happened to the SFer magazine that was supposed to
come out?

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what don't you understand? Accuracy? what?

-- Chris B.

> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 19:59:31 EST
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>
> YOur letter doesnt make sense?
> I understand the first part, not the second.
>
>
>> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:46:17 -0400
>>
>> How many fights have you been in? Let's not get in a "realistic" debate
>> here.
>>
>> -- Chris B.
>>
>>
>>> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
>>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:18:39 EDT
>>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>>>
>>> actually the single roll attack is done very well and I would say its
>>> possibly more accurate than a to hit roll in many ways.
>>>
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I really haven't bothered to get into this debate, because I really Don't
care. In my experience, one power character is any power character.

Boring.

The whole debate reminds me of the dull, trite, witless Dungeons & Dragons
war stories, I've been subjected to most of my gaming life.

Whatever.

-- Chris B.

> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:33:00 EST
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>
> Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must all first realize that it
> is an RPG that was played a game that was based upon imagination, part of it
> is allowing shock to beat apocalypse.
> So lets not try to get out of hand.
> While this is true it does not end our conversation, we should not think,
> "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do anything he wants,
> its his game." We whould not have put such emotion into our resonses.
>
> Secondly the questioning here is in refference to the judges allowance of
> the character shock and the way he treats him along with who he has
> challanged and the out come of his results
>
> As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the best way to deal with it
> is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes RPG
> or the new marvel superheroes role playing game.
> And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between 75 to 100 tons.
> his strength would be off the scale more than any one here probably thinks.
> On top of that he is able to manipulate the molecules in his body,
> Molecules, not cells.
> An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing with people other than hand
> to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would have escaped leaving the
> players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten.
>
>
> Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were weakened or the SF characters
> were improved, I cant remember which, but it would have been a waste of a
> quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten.
>
> Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win? Did the villains ever
> cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly difficult situation?
>
> If you want to make an interesting story for shock, try one of the
> following.
> Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison, amnesia?
> I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse infects him with a disease
> that gets him really sick. and then let him fight the villain. Im pretty
> sure things woulld be interesting for him.
> Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT, reduce him to a child
> and he cant do all his moves because they take strain on the body, at a
> young age it would kill him.
>
> Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god. OR is worshipped heavily.
> How would he react when the entire popultaion begins doing things in his
> name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL HIM!")
> And since you like to mix it up with alternate universese, the challange can
> be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure that hes lost enough blood
> on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a sample of blood and to clone
> him.
>
> What are you asking him to prove byt the way?, that shock would take the
> villains down no problem?
>
> By the way what do the other players think of shock?
>
>
>> From: ronineric@...
>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> To: streetfighter@...
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700
>>
>> mitzp-@... wrote:
>> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2963
>>> under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to what they should be
>> there
>>> anit no way
>>
>> Prove it. Show me how, I bet you that Shock mops the floor with them
>> in one ten turn round or so.
>> ...This is my problem, so prove your ststement and help me out, Please!
>>
>> Eric
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It's from Chris M. our signature's are pretty close....Except for the M.

-- Chris B.

> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:45:23 EST
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: W.O.D Styles
>
> Uhh Chris B
> Do you work for WW or are you saying that that was a response from Chris M.
>
>
>> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: W.O.D Styles
>> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:58:42 -0400
>>
>> Yes, the paid us for a license so they could use the Vampire terms. We had
>> nothing to do with the actual design. Our name was listed on the outside.
>> Chris m
>>
>> ----------
>>> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>>> To: <chrism@...>
>>> Subject: A simple Question
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 1:26 AM
>>>
>>
>>> Hi, I have enjoyed many of White Wolf's products. Please keep up the
>> good
>>> work.
>>>
>>> I have a question. I am currently on the Streetfighter RPG Mailing list,
>> and
>>> of course an argument has reared it's festering head once again.
>>>
>>> The Question > Did White Wolf have anything to do with the Darkstalkers
>>> series of video games by Capcom?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time and patience.
>>>
>>> -- Chris B.
>>>
>>
>> The above is what I got from White Wolf on the matter. Unfortunately, White
>> Wolf owns a lot of registered trademarks, preventing others from freely
>> using certain words.
>> So in the end, there really is no plot or design or universe cross-over
>> between the World of Darkness and the Darkstalkers series. Besides, the
>> original Anime story line has nothing to do with any of white wolf's
>> products, So in fact, no connection.
>>
>> -- Chris B.
>>
>>
>>> From: "J.J." <tyger1@...>
>>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:02:30 -0700
>>> To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: W.O.D Styles
>>>
>>> IIRC, publicity deal. No more, no less. (Well, maybe finishing up that
>>> little deal they had that saw to the creation SFtSTG in the first
>> place.)
>>>
>>> BTW, a few Kailindo Maneuvers might be purchased as Kabaddi maneuvers
>> with
>>> the pre-requisite 'extendable limbs'.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 9:06 PM
>>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: W.O.D Styles
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just because it said "world of darkness" doesn't mean it was the
>>> trademarked
>>>> "World of Darkness " The Darkstalkers game you referred to sounds like
>>>> Darkstalkers 3 (Jedah's Damnation in the arcade)
>>>> A quick e-mail to White Wolf will solve this.
>>>>
>>>> -- Chris B.
>>>>
>>>>
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Genryu-kai- shotokan karate-Fire elemental-Coutry-Japan?(I don´t know yet)
Appearance: He don´t send it to me yet but by the name I belive he is a japanese guy, and
maybe he dresses a shotokan uniform.

> versus

> Thomas Watson- Boxing- Coutry-Wales
> Apperance: 6’7” 180 lbs. Blond hair, green eyes, white skin and dresses a green overcoat,
> cotton pants and fine shoes
> Smiles all the time, except of course when he receive a hit.

> Quotes of the fighters before the battle starts:

> Genryu-kai: Don´t send to me, for that he appears like Akuma silence... Death silence.

Watson at celular phone: No. I said no don´t buy anything from Bisontechs (I belive in
some time Bison prefers make some money at try and try the world conquest), you know the
software don´t have any credit at the market. What! What you have done? Looking for the crowd
and his challenger, turn off the phone and say: Sorry you only business.

> Arena: A London dark Alley, with some people looking and bet in the fighters.

> Fighters are ready 3 hexes from each other. The bell rings and the fight begins:
>
> Move 1: Genryu-kai try begin a foot sweep manuver but Watson light jab are more faster and
> shotokan guy are hit for one point of damage and link his combo.
>
> Move 2: Watson combo (jab for a elbow smash) isn´t break by Genryu-kai jab flaming fist
> and the shotokan guy receive 7 points of damage and stuns!!!
>
> Move 3: Watson blocks and Genryu-kai recovers.
>
> Move 4: Genryu-kai try a desesperate block but is dennied by Watson Round House Rekka ken
> and the shotokan guy receive 7 points of damage and Knock out.

Watson wins by Knockout. At finish of fight Watson helps Genryu-kai to stand up and say to
him how good is fight with a honorable fighter like him.
Watson Victory quote: "Now you know the wisdom of silence".

That´s all folks, if someone want a test fight too or enter in Gateway tournament just
send a email with your fighter to me.

Sorry Steve really bad mandarin pingying. >From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:01:20 -0400 > >dweh. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com> >Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:11 PM >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists > > > >Darrick, Ni hoyshwo jongguo ren ma? > Do you speak chinese? > > > >From: "Darrick Chen" <dare2live@...> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists > >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:04:15 PDT > > > >Well, as far as the amrtial arts go, I've had a very eclectic experience. > > > >My formal training comes in the form of Tai CHi Ch'uan, Northern Shaolin > >Long Fist Boxing, and some Tae Kwon Do. > > > >As far as informal training, I've learned various techniques from Muay > >Thai, > >Judo, Jujutsu, Aikido, Ninjutsu, a smattering of Savate, and I've been > >known > >to dabble in Capoeira. > > > >I'm a bit of a martial arts scholar, more so than a practitioner. I am at > >least passingly aware of the many and diverse fighting styles, even many >of > >the obscure esoteric ones from the unlikliest places; like Egypt, > >Czechoslovakia, and Iceland. > > > >______________________________________________________ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer > >equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer > >games & accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay! > >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1142 > > > > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Java or juggling?. Everybody learns something at Learn2.com. Where >you'll find thousands of free 2torials, affordable online courses, and >useful tips for everyday life. http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/964 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > ______________________________________________________

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I really haven't bothered to get into this debate, because I really Don't care. In my experience, one power character is any power character. Boring. The whole debate reminds me of the dull, trite, witless Dungeons & Dragons war stories, I've been subjected to most of my gaming life. Whatever. -- Chris B. > From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...> > Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com > Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:33:00 EST > To: streetfighter@egroups.com > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat > > Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must all first realize that it > is an RPG that was played a game that was based upon imagination, part of it > is allowing shock to beat apocalypse. > So lets not try to get out of hand. > While this is true it does not end our conversation, we should not think, > "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do anything he wants, > its his game." We whould not have put such emotion into our resonses. > > Secondly the questioning here is in refference to the judges allowance of > the character shock and the way he treats him along with who he has > challanged and the out come of his results > > As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the best way to deal with it > is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes RPG > or the new marvel superheroes role playing game. > And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between 75 to 100 tons. > his strength would be off the scale more than any one here probably thinks. > On top of that he is able to manipulate the molecules in his body, > Molecules, not cells. > An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing with people other than hand > to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would have escaped leaving the > players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten. > > > Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were weakened or the SF characters > were improved, I cant remember which, but it would have been a waste of a > quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten. > > Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win? Did the villains ever > cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly difficult situation? > > If you want to make an interesting story for shock, try one of the > following. > Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison, amnesia? > I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse infects him with a disease > that gets him really sick. and then let him fight the villain. Im pretty > sure things woulld be interesting for him. > Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT, reduce him to a child > and he cant do all his moves because they take strain on the body, at a > young age it would kill him. > > Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god. OR is worshipped heavily. > How would he react when the entire popultaion begins doing things in his > name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL HIM!") > And since you like to mix it up with alternate universese, the challange can > be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure that hes lost enough blood > on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a sample of blood and to clone > him. > > What are you asking him to prove byt the way?, that shock would take the > villains down no problem? > > By the way what do the other players think of shock? > > >> From: ronineric@... >> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com >> To: streetfighter@... >> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat >> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700 >> >> mitzp-@... wrote: >> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2963 >>> under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to what they should be >> there >>> anit no way >> >> Prove it. Show me how, I bet you that Shock mops the floor with them >> in one ten turn round or so. >> ...This is my problem, so prove your ststement and help me out, Please! >> >> Eric >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Receive Red Hat Linux 6 Toolkit - a 3 book >> + 2-CDs for $9.99! A $109.97 value, yours >> with membership in Library of Computer and >> Information Sciences. Order at >> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1372 >> >> >> >> >> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications >> >> >> >> > > ______________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=streetfighter&m=1 > >

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I remember that! That wasn't witless, it was hilarious! Remember , wild Gazebos are deadly!

I'm really talking about people who rattle unendingly on about their 50th level wizard, assassin, barbarian etc. and how they are the greatest, and no one can beat them...yada...yada...yada - crap. I think I've heard almost every angle on this theme.

After playing and running countless systems, you find that there are always that particular breed or spiritual age of Gamer who seems to possess the  need to rattle on and on about their mindlessly unstoppable juggernaut character. (World of Darkness is ripe with these, I find) Trust me, these stories are ALL the SAME regardless of genre/system/ or name/alignment of character. My ears are near deaf to this sort of thing nowadays, although I still get the dry heaves when I encounter a new Uber-Character.

Playing  this sort of character is one thing (occasionally it's fun to blow off steam), bragging about it is a whole different sickness.
If the guy who plays Shock didn't want people to be shocked, annoyed and argumentative, he would never have bragged about the myriad of powerful people Shock beat. It's attention (or lack of it) that brings about this sort of thing.

Oh NO! My Character is unstoppable....Sniff. sniff sob.... Please somebody help meeeeee!!! Look at all the people he beat! I can't help it he's just too good! Woa is me.......I'm cursed by the agony of an unstoppable supercharacter. - (translation: I need attention)

I've heard that angle before, it's isn't new behaviour. Hell... even I did it when I was young gamer. (very young)
My advice, if you are really looking for "help", leave Shock behind and start a new character with interesting, character building weaknesses.

If you are offended by my opinions ..... which I'm pretty sure you will be, *shrugs*.

-- Chris B.

From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:16:13 -0500
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat

my absolute favorite AD&D "war story" is "Eric versus the gazebo".  I found it online somewhere.  ever hear it?  it's a classic.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:21 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat

I really haven't bothered to get into this debate, because I really Don't
care. In my experience, one power character is any power character.

Boring.

The whole debate reminds me of the dull, trite, witless Dungeons & Dragons
war stories, I've been subjected to most of my gaming life.

Whatever.

-- Chris B.


> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:33:00 EST
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>
> Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must all first realize that it
> is an RPG that was played a game that was based upon imagination, part of it
> is allowing shock to beat apocalypse.
> So lets not try to get out of hand.
> While this is true it does not end our conversation, we should not think,
> "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do anything he wants,
> its his game." We whould not have put such emotion into our resonses.
>
> Secondly the questioning here is in refference to the judges allowance of
> the character shock and the way he treats him along with who he has
> challanged and the out come of his results
>
> As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the best way to deal with it
> is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes RPG
> or the new marvel superheroes role playing game.
> And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between 75 to 100 tons.
> his strength would be off the scale more than any one here probably thinks.
> On top of that he is able to manipulate the molecules in his body,
> Molecules, not cells.
> An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing with people other than hand
> to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would have escaped leaving the
> players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten.
>
>
> Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were weakened or the SF characters
> were improved, I cant remember which, but it would have been a waste of a
> quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten.
>
> Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win? Did the villains ever
> cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly difficult situation?
>
> If you want to make an interesting story for shock, try one of the
> following.
> Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison, amnesia?
> I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse infects him with a disease
> that gets him really sick. and then let him fight the villain. Im pretty
> sure things woulld be interesting for him.
> Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT, reduce him to a child
> and he cant do all his moves because they take strain on the body, at a
> young age it would kill him.
>
> Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god. OR is worshipped heavily.
> How would he react when the entire popultaion begins doing things in his
> name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL HIM!")
> And since you like to mix it up with alternate universese, the challange can
> be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure that hes lost enough blood
> on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a sample of blood and to clone
> him.
>
> What are you asking him to prove byt the way?, that shock would take the
> villains down no problem?
>
> By the way what do the other players think of shock?
>
>
>> From: ronineric@...
>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> To: streetfighter@...
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700
>>
>> mitzp-@... wrote:
>> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2963
>>> under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to what they should be
>> there
>>> anit no way
>>
>> Prove it.  Show me how, I bet you that Shock mops the floor with them
>> in one ten turn round or so.
>> ...This is my problem, so prove your ststement and help me out, Please!
>>
>> Eric
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--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> Something like that. They would but they would learn
> alot of moves, they may
> forget some ,
> but they will always end up with a particular set of
> moves. the would never
> do them all or use them all its ridiculous. and
> makes no sense.
> they will use a particular set of moves thats works
> best for them.
> not only that you claim that shock knows more than 1
> stlye.
>
> Ginchin Funakoshi once made a remark about people
> complaining about not
> being able to do karate well, what nonsense when it
> would take them a life
> time to do 1 form properly.
>
> What Im mostly saying is that he has wasted alot of
> time. All for nothing.
>
> Heres a question for you does shock know Hundered
> hand slap?
> Does shock know Hyper Fist?
>
>
>
> >From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:39:10 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Sceptical is a bad word try shock is unbelivable.
> As
> >far as him not learning half what are you talking
> >about. You're telling me that if someone went out
> and
> >learened karate or something and aspiried to become
> a
> >master they wouldn't learn as many moves as
> possible
> >from that style?
> >
> >-Chad Phillips
> >
> >--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> wrote:
> > > Im sorry but Im sceptical as well.
> > > According to the rules for learning time in "The
> > > perfect warrior"
> > > module, it would take 8 months for a person to
> learn
> > > dragon punch
> > > (or something like that) and 250 moves is just
> > > unbeleivable.
> > > more than half of the moves he wouldnt bother
> > > learning....
> > > and Id make some on like that make a roll from
> time
> > > to time to make him lose
> > > or forget certain moves.
> > >
> > > Now this is a personal thing two, but if that
> were a
> > > real person
> > > he has wasted alot of his time. I wouldnt call
> that
> > > a martial arts
> > > master.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "J. Scott Pittman"
> <joespitt@...>
> > > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to
> know
> > > >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:11:22 -0700
> > > >
> > > >hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and
> > > attributes! Have you guys ben
> > > >running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how
> long
> > > it would take to get
> > > >the
> > > >experience needed to make a character like that
> > > from a beginning character!
> > > >My buddy and me have been playing for years and
> his
> > > character would get his
> > > >face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm
> > > still laughing at those
> > > >stats.
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> > > <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> > > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
> > > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to
> know
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Okay well before i post these just rember you
> > > asked to
> > > > >see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the
> main
> > > stat
> > > > >putting every background and skill on here
> would
> > > take
> > > > >to long. The complete charcter will be on my
> > > website
> > > > >someday.
> > > > >
> > > > >A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
> > > > >everything he has with ep's nothing was given
> to
> > > him
> > > > >for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the
> Highest
> > > any
> > > > >Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical
> > > specialist,
> > > > >1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max
> human.
> > > 3. He
> > > > >can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for
> > > being a
> > > > >world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks
> like
> > > > >somebody ran him over a few dozen times with
> a
> > > mack
> > > > >truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes
> he
> > > high
> > > > >mentals but no one ever said just because you
> are
> > > > >smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to
> 7 in
> > > > >Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6
> in
> > > Grab,
> > > > >Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go
> to
> > > 21
> > > > >because after are third gaming sesson he hit
> max,
> > > and
> > > > >actually it has a base 21 before whats listed
> > > because
> > > > >when he became a world warrior he started
> over
> > > total =
> > > > >42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he
> later
> > > beat
> > > > >and was one to ryu who he hopefully will
> never
> > > beat
> > > > >both shock and his opponent in this case fell
> > > > >unconcious simeltanously after three rounds
> of
> > > combat.
> > > > >9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is
> > > thanks
> > > > >wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion
> page
> > > > >thank you very much chris.
> > > > >
> > > > >Charcter: Grand Master Shock
> > > > >Style: Westren Kickboxing
> > > > >Team: Incinerators
> > > > >Player: Chad Phillips
> > > > >School: Zaire School
> > > > >Concept: Soldier
> > > > >Chronicle: N/A
> > > > >Stable: N/A
> > > > >Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and
> procceds
> > > to
> > > > >turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
> > > > >
> > > > >Strength: OOOOOO
> > > > >Dexterity: OOOOOO
> > > > >Stamina: OOOOOO
> > > > >Charisma: OOO
> > > > >Manipulation: OO
> > > > >Apperance: OO
> > > > >Perception: OO
> > > > >Intelligence: OOOOO
> > > > >Wits: OOOO
> > > > >
> > > > >Punch: OOOOOO
> > > > >Kick: OOOOOO
> > > > >Block: OOOOOO
> > > > >Grab: OOOOO
>

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--- Mike Morgado <morg@...> wrote:

> If your refering to the Street Fighter Storyteller
> books, they are:
>
> Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game
> Secrets of Shadoloo
> Street Fighter: The Storytellers Screen
> Street Fighter: Player's Guide
> Street Fighter: Contenders
> Street Fighter: The Perfect Warrior
> and the book that was never released
> Street Fighter: Shadow Over Mexico
>
> There was also a small article in a White Wolf
> Inphobia magazine. It was
> issue 50
>
> Thanks
>
> MikeM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clk_whrr_chad@...
> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:57 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] The Books
>
>
> >Hey does anybody know the names of all the books?
> >
> >
> >
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*Whew*

Sweet mercy, I actually have some time to reply to e-mail! Yay.

First off, Steve, my most heartfelt congratulations on your engagement.
Couldn't happen to a nicer fellow, and I wish you all the best. Regards to
the lady as well.

I can't actually SPEAK Chinese, but I can understand a bit of Mandarin.
As it is, it doesn't matter much becasue my family speaks a rather obscure
dialect. Fukien (or Hokkien) instead of the common Mandarin.

Oh, BTW, rejoice with me, Street Fighter brethren, for I have finally
acquired, after all this time, a copy of Contenders of my verrrry own!
After months of searching on eBay, I was able to find a copy up for bid and
rather than wait out the auction time, during which I know for a fact that
someone would outbid me, I e-mailed the seller told I'd pay cover price for
the thing if he'd just sell it to me. Am I happy?
Yes. Are the characters in the book incredibly silly? Another yes.
I'm just glad I've completed the collection. Along with my Bubblegum Crisis
RPG set, which our very own Christian Conkle has an entry within (Christian,
if you're still on thelist, contact me) I now have two full sets of RPGs.

Minor notes, from a minor guy,

Later

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This is not eric responding. This is chad eric's been
sick he'll reply later.

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must
> all first realize that it
> is an RPG that was played a game that was based upon
> imagination, part of it
> is allowing shock to beat apocalypse.
> So lets not try to get out of hand.
> While this is true it does not end our conversation,
> we should not think,
> "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do anything
> he wants,
> its his game." We whould not have put such emotion
> into our resonses.

Thank you for the voice of neturality.

>
> Secondly the questioning here is in refference to
> the judges allowance of
> the character shock and the way he treats him along
> with who he has
> challanged and the out come of his results
>
> As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the
> best way to deal with it
> is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes RPG
> or the new marvel superheroes role playing game.
> And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between 75
> to 100 tons.
> his strength would be off the scale more than any
> one here probably thinks.
> On top of that he is able to manipulate the
> molecules in his body,
> Molecules, not cells.
> An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing
> with people other than hand
> to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would
> have escaped leaving the
> players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten.
>
>
> Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were
> weakened or the SF characters
> were improved, I cant remember which, but it would
> have been a waste of a
> quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten.
>
> Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win? Did
> the villains ever
> cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly difficult
> situation?

Yes it's been difficult for shock to win fights
apoclypse and other fights were not pieces of cakes.
Yes when shock fought Bison Bison had guards shoot
shock with guns while they were fighting. Yes a prime
example was when his wife was kidnapped and nearly
killed.

>
> If you want to make an interesting story for shock,
> try one of the
> following.
> Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison,
> amnesia?

In the situation above where shock's wife was
kidnapped he was poisined and had like 24 or 48 hours
to live so he was weakend and had that much time to
find her in. As far as amnesia goes shock is insane
yes literally some moments he's in reality and some
he's not. So he'll turn to his wife or kids or best
friends and ask "Who are you?".

> I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse
> infects him with a disease
> that gets him really sick. and then let him fight
> the villain. Im pretty
> sure things woulld be interesting for him.
> Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT,
> reduce him to a child
> and he cant do all his moves because they take
> strain on the body, at a
> young age it would kill him.
>
> Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god. OR
> is worshipped heavily.
> How would he react when the entire popultaion begins
> doing things in his
> name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL
> HIM!")

Shock unfotunatley would enjoy that way to much and
would join in on the slaugther. Or he hate it and
defend the person.

> And since you like to mix it up with alternate
> universese, the challange can
> be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure
> that hes lost enough blood
> on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a sample
> of blood and to clone
> him.

Shock is not evil or good he's netural so if you made
a clone of him it wouldn't do a whole of good just
imagine two copies of him running around.

>
> What are you asking him to prove byt the way?, that
> shock would take the
> villains down no problem?
>
> By the way what do the other players think of shock?
>

Most of the time everybody else grabs their foreheads
and shakes their heads at shock.

-Chad Phillips

>
> >From: ronineric@...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@...
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
> >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700
> >
> >mitzp-@... wrote:
> >original
>

article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2963

> > > under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to
> what they should be
> >there
> > > anit no way
> >
> >Prove it. Show me how, I bet you that Shock mops
> the floor with them
> >in one ten turn round or so.
> >...This is my problem, so prove your ststement and
> help me out, Please!
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >
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--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> O I got a gret Idea since everyone here is insistent
> on disproving ronin
> eric lets have an online battle. It would solve or
> prove alot of things.
>
> Hey Mike Morgando, Steve, Christian Conkle, Rinaldo
> what do you think?
>
>
> >From: MITZPD@...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
> >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:20:10 EDT
> >
> >Below is a character that some sent through egroups
> that if played right
> >could win
> >
> >
> >
> >Name: Kage no Kyn
> >Style: Kage Do (the way of Shadows)
> >School: Grand master Kage
> >Team: Incineraters
> >Concept: Gardener
> >Signature: his body glows blue with the power of
> his Chi
> >
> >Strength: 5 Charisma: 3 Perception: 6
> >Dexterity:5 Manipulation: 1 Intelligence:
> 6
> >Stamina: 5 Appearance: 4 Witts: 6
> >
> >Talents:
> >Alertness: 4 Insight: 5 Intimidation: 4
> Streetwise: 2 Subterfuge: 4
> >Skills:
> >Blind Fight: 5 Demolition: 2 Drive (Motorcycle):
> 5 Stealth: 5
> >Knowledges:
> >Arena: 4 Linguistics: 3 Mysteries: 6 Style
> Lore: 5 Occult: 6
> >Medicine: 5 Traditional Medicine: 5
> >
> >BACKGROUNDS
> >Sensei: 5 Elemental (Fire): 5 Mystical Contacts:
> 5
> >
> >TECHNIQUES
> >Punch: 5 Kick: 5 Block: 4 Grab: 5 Athletics:
> 6 Focus: 6 Katana: 5
> >
> >Chi: 10
> >Willpower: 10
> >Health: 20
> >
> >Rank: 7
> >Division: Freestyle
> >Honor: 11
> >Glory: 7
> >
> >Maneuvers (Kage Do)
> >Dimmak
> >Shockwave
> >Triple Strike
> >Foot Sweep
> >Dragon Kick
> >Double Hitt Kick
> >Makka warra
> >Punch Defence
> >Kick Defence
> >Back roll throw
> >Pheonix Rising
> >Throw
> >Backflipp
> >Groundfighting
> >Jump
> >Double Jump
> >Kippup
> >Chi Kung Healing
> >Chi Push
> >Chi Summon
> >Fire Ball
> >Flying Fireball
> >Ghost Form(Shadow Form)
> >Improved Fireball
> >Inferno Strike
> >Levitation
> >Mirror Image
> >Repeating Fireball
> >Stunning Shout
> >Teleport
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Yeah I origanlly asked for help with him but that was
like the first e-mail and after that I let it go. My
gm actually continued to ask for help. But that's
aside from the point. Yes shock is ridcolus, but that
part of the reason I play not for who he can beat but
more for his mentality. He used more for a comic
relief elment in our campaigns then anything else he
rarley if ever is the one to figure something out. And
no I wasn't trying to brag about him 1. someone asked
to see him. 2. I was giving people a frame of refrence
so they could comment on him. It's difficult to
understand him if you don't have a frame of refrence.
Anyway no I don't find your opinoin offense this is
what we call inteligent conversation.

-Chad Phillips

--- Chris Baker <cbaker@...> wrote:

> I remember that! That wasn't witless, it was
> hilarious! Remember , wild
> Gazebos are deadly!
>
> I'm really talking about people who rattle
> unendingly on about their 50th
> level wizard, assassin, barbarian etc. and how they
> are the greatest, and no
> one can beat them...yada...yada...yada - crap. I
> think I've heard almost
> every angle on this theme.
>
> After playing and running countless systems, you
> find that there are always
> that particular breed or spiritual age of Gamer who
> seems to possess the
> need to rattle on and on about their mindlessly
> unstoppable juggernaut
> character. (World of Darkness is ripe with these, I
> find) Trust me, these
> stories are ALL the SAME regardless of genre/system/
> or name/alignment of
> character. My ears are near deaf to this sort of
> thing nowadays, although I
> still get the dry heaves when I encounter a new
> Uber-Character.
>
> Playing this sort of character is one thing
> (occasionally it's fun to blow
> off steam), bragging about it is a whole different
> sickness.
> If the guy who plays Shock didn't want people to be
> shocked, annoyed and
> argumentative, he would never have bragged about the
> myriad of powerful
> people Shock beat. It's attention (or lack of it)
> that brings about this
> sort of thing.
>
> Oh NO! My Character is unstoppable....Sniff. sniff
> sob.... Please somebody
> help meeeeee!!! Look at all the people he beat! I
> can't help it he's just
> too good! Woa is me.......I'm cursed by the agony of
> an unstoppable
> supercharacter. - (translation: I need attention)
>
> I've heard that angle before, it's isn't new
> behaviour. Hell... even I did
> it when I was young gamer. (very young)
> My advice, if you are really looking for "help",
> leave Shock behind and
> start a new character with interesting, character
> building weaknesses.
>
> If you are offended by my opinions ..... which I'm
> pretty sure you will be,
> *shrugs*.
>
> -- Chris B.
>
>
> From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:16:13 -0500
> To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
>
>
>
> my absolute favorite AD&D "war story" is "Eric
> versus the gazebo". I found
> it online somewhere. ever hear it? it's a classic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:21 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
>
> I really haven't bothered to get into this debate,
> because I really Don't
> care. In my experience, one power character is any
> power character.
>
> Boring.
>
> The whole debate reminds me of the dull, trite,
> witless Dungeons & Dragons
> war stories, I've been subjected to most of my
> gaming life.
>
> Whatever.
>
> -- Chris B.
>
>
> > From: "Robert Pascuttini"
> <rpascuttini@...>
> > Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:33:00 EST
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
> >
> > Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must
> all first realize that it
> > is an RPG that was played a game that was based
> upon imagination, part of it
> > is allowing shock to beat apocalypse.
> > So lets not try to get out of hand.
> > While this is true it does not end our
> conversation, we should not think,
> > "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do
> anything he wants,
> > its his game." We whould not have put such emotion
> into our resonses.
> >
> > Secondly the questioning here is in refference to
> the judges allowance of
> > the character shock and the way he treats him
> along with who he has
> > challanged and the out come of his results
> >
> > As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the
> best way to deal with it
> > is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes
> RPG
> > or the new marvel superheroes role playing game.
> > And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between
> 75 to 100 tons.
> > his strength would be off the scale more than any
> one here probably thinks.
> > On top of that he is able to manipulate the
> molecules in his body,
> > Molecules, not cells.
> > An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing
> with people other than hand
> > to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would
> have escaped leaving the
> > players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten.
> >
> >
> > Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were
> weakened or the SF characters
> > were improved, I cant remember which, but it would
> have been a waste of a
> > quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten.
> >
> > Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win?
> Did the villains ever
> > cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly
> difficult situation?
> >
> > If you want to make an interesting story for
> shock, try one of the
> > following.
> > Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison,
> amnesia?
> > I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse
> infects him with a disease
> > that gets him really sick. and then let him fight
> the villain. Im pretty
> > sure things woulld be interesting for him.
> > Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT,
> reduce him to a child
> > and he cant do all his moves because they take
> strain on the body, at a
> > young age it would kill him.
> >
> > Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god.
> OR is worshipped heavily.
> > How would he react when the entire popultaion
> begins doing things in his
> > name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL
> HIM!")
> > And since you like to mix it up with alternate
> universese, the challange can
> > be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure
> that hes lost enough blood
> > on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a
> sample of blood and to clone
> > him.
> >
> > What are you asking him to prove byt the way?,
> that shock would take the
> > villains down no problem?
> >
> > By the way what do the other players think of
> shock?
> >
> >
> >> From: ronineric@...
> >> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >> To: streetfighter@...
> >> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock
> Beat
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700
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Okay I'll continue to comment on him.

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> AAAAAAAAA..
>
> Dont do that man. Just take everyones response in
> stride.
> I had no problem about talking about your character.
> It brought up so
> interesting conversations.
>
>
> >From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:34:12 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Sorry If I annoyed anyone talking about my charcter
> I
> >just posted a thing and kept replying to people
> >comments. I will refrain from talking about him
> from
> >now on.
> >
> >-Chad Phillips
> >
> >
> >--- SlpStck@... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 10/27/99 3:32:41 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > clk_whrr_chad@... writes:
> > >
> > > << Ok maybe I didn't make my point absolutely
> clear
> > > if
> > > shock were to attempt to learn something
> > > irregardless
> > > of how long it took him or how much it cost he
> > > wouldn't learn just half of it and stop he
> would
> > > learn
> > > the whole thing. As far as actual time goes I
> have
> > > no
> > > idea what the "Perfect Warrior" says on the
> subject
> > > but shock is not real and if you use the
> > > spontaneous
> > > learning rules or something similar it would
> not
> > > take
> > > 90 years. Shock can personally learn a style in
> a
> > > about a month. Although for shock learning
> styles
> > > is a
> > > side effect of what he actually want's which is
> the
> > > manuvers.
> > >
> > > -Chad Phillips >>
> > > ok, personally, i am getting a little tired of
> > > hearing about this character.
> > > if the ST in this game allowed him, thats his
> > > decision. personally, i
> > > wouldn't let any of my players have someone so
> > > powerful he could beat anyone,
> > > at any time, anywhere. thats an ability left to
> my
> > > NPCs. :-)
> > > and yes, it takes years upon years to become a
> true
> > > master in real life. but,
> > > shock is not real. so, lets just drop this whole
> bit
> > > about whether or not hes
> > > legal. he is in that game, but don't expect
> anyone
> > > else to allowe him...
> > >
> > >
>
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Here are the results of the vote:

1. Goku 1
2. Seproth 1
3. The U.S. 1
4. Akuma 2
5. Apocalypse 2
6. None of The Above 2
7. M. Bison 3
8. Ryu 3

Just curious on one thing: Of all the people running current Chronicles, how
many ran special Halloween stories (not necessarily on Halloween)?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Baker <cbaker@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat

I remember that! That wasn't witless, it was hilarious! Remember , wild Gazebos are deadly!

I'm really talking about people who rattle unendingly on about their 50th level wizard, assassin, barbarian etc. and how they are the greatest, and no one can beat them...yada...yada...yada - crap. I think I've heard almost every angle on this theme.

After playing and running countless systems, you find that there are always that particular breed or spiritual age of Gamer who seems to possess the  need to rattle on and on about their mindlessly unstoppable juggernaut character. (World of Darkness is ripe with these, I find) Trust me, these stories are ALL the SAME regardless of genre/system/ or name/alignment of character. My ears are near deaf to this sort of thing nowadays, although I still get the dry heaves when I encounter a new Uber-Character.

Playing  this sort of character is one thing (occasionally it's fun to blow off steam), bragging about it is a whole different sickness.
If the guy who plays Shock didn't want people to be shocked, annoyed and argumentative, he would never have bragged about the myriad of powerful people Shock beat. It's attention (or lack of it) that brings about this sort of thing.

Oh NO! My Character is unstoppable....Sniff. sniff sob.... Please somebody help meeeeee!!! Look at all the people he beat! I can't help it he's just too good! Woa is me.......I'm cursed by the agony of an unstoppable supercharacter. - (translation: I need attention)

I've heard that angle before, it's isn't new behaviour. Hell... even I did it when I was young gamer. (very young)
My advice, if you are really looking for "help", leave Shock behind and start a new character with interesting, character building weaknesses.

If you are offended by my opinions ..... which I'm pretty sure you will be, *shrugs*.

-- Chris B.

From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@sprynet.com>
Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:16:13 -0500
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat

my absolute favorite AD&D "war story" is "Eric versus the gazebo".  I found it online somewhere.  ever hear it?  it's a classic.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Baker <cbaker@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:21 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat

I really haven't bothered to get into this debate, because I really Don't
care. In my experience, one power character is any power character.

Boring.

The whole debate reminds me of the dull, trite, witless Dungeons & Dragons
war stories, I've been subjected to most of my gaming life.

Whatever.

-- Chris B.


> From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:33:00 EST
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>
> Ok slight reality slap for everyone here. We must all first realize that it
> is an RPG that was played a game that was based upon imagination, part of it
> is allowing shock to beat apocalypse.
> So lets not try to get out of hand.
> While this is true it does not end our conversation, we should not think,
> "yes thats true, ah hell with it he can do anything he wants,
> its his game." We whould not have put such emotion into our resonses.
>
> Secondly the questioning here is in refference to the judges allowance of
> the character shock and the way he treats him along with who he has
> challanged and the out come of his results
>
> As to shock defeating Apocalypse, I cant say, the best way to deal with it
> is to pick up an old copy of Marvel super heroes RPG
> or the new marvel superheroes role playing game.
> And im pretty sure apocalypse could lift between 75 to 100 tons.
> his strength would be off the scale more than any one here probably thinks.
> On top of that he is able to manipulate the molecules in his body,
> Molecules, not cells.
> An apocalypse him self has other ways of dealing with people other than hand
> to hand combat. Rpg wise or comic wise, he would have escaped leaving the
> players in a deathtrap instead of being beaten.
>
>
> Game wise, Either the Marvel characters were weakened or the SF characters
> were improved, I cant remember which, but it would have been a waste of a
> quarter if apocalypse couldnt be beaten.
>
> Did you ever make it difficult for shock to win? Did the villains ever
> cheat? Was shock ever put into a extremmly difficult situation?
>
> If you want to make an interesting story for shock, try one of the
> following.
> Weaken him, your choice on how you do it, poison, amnesia?
> I dont know what ever you want. Maybe apocalypse infects him with a disease
> that gets him really sick. and then let him fight the villain. Im pretty
> sure things woulld be interesting for him.
> Or do what they did to Goku in Dragon Ball GT, reduce him to a child
> and he cant do all his moves because they take strain on the body, at a
> young age it would kill him.
>
> Or play it the opposite way. Shock becomes a god. OR is worshipped heavily.
> How would he react when the entire popultaion begins doing things in his
> name.("This bastard disaproves off shock, KILL HIM!")
> And since you like to mix it up with alternate universese, the challange can
> be shock him self, a clone of him. Im pretty sure that hes lost enough blood
> on the battle feilds for someone do pick up a sample of blood and to clone
> him.
>
> What are you asking him to prove byt the way?, that shock would take the
> villains down no problem?
>
> By the way what do the other players think of shock?
>
>
>> From: ronineric@aol.com
>> Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> To: streetfighter@eGroups.com
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: Who Can Shock Beat
>> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:59:33 -0700
>>
>> mitzp-@aol.com wrote:
>> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2963
>>> under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to what they should be
>> there
>>> anit no way
>>
>> Prove it.  Show me how, I bet you that Shock mops the floor with them
>> in one ten turn round or so.
>> ...This is my problem, so prove your ststement and help me out, Please!
>>
>> Eric
>>
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From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 6:44 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: W.O.D Styles

>Steve K ,Christian C. I want to send you text file Ive been working on. I
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Traditionally every year I run a one shot horror game, using either
Call of Cthulhu or Beyond the Supernatural(victims story). Some of my
best (legendary even)off the cuff adventures have come out of those
nights. Last couple years I've thrown big halloween parties instead,
but this year I actually had a game ready although I didn't get to use
it. It was a one-shot Call of Cthulhu adventure set in the old west
where an outlaw, a lawman, a miner, a drunk shaman and his grandson all
get cursed and must band together to escape a great old one. I was
damn proud of it too, because the plot twists were all cruel and
terrible. Maybe I'll get to use it soon, but I didn't get to this
year. As far as horror plots for street fighter, as it is one of my
players is running a character cursed by his demon heritage who is
trying not to become corrupted by that part of his being. So I don't
need to do anything special there, trust me I've done enough to him!

arkondlo-@... wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=3173

> Just curious on one thing: Of all the people running current

Chronicles, how

> many ran special Halloween stories (not necessarily on Halloween)?

Has anybody tried to run Streetfighter as a LARP? It seems to me it would
work well. Each session would be a tournament with loads and loads of
subplots going on. Streetfighter combat seems pretty well suited to running
without a GM (at least in my very limited experience) so most of the matches
could be run by the players themselves.

Anybody have suggestions or reasons it would be pretty much unworkable?

In a message dated 11/7/99 8:31:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JSorochins@... writes:

<< Has anybody tried to run Streetfighter as a LARP? It seems to me it would
work well. Each session would be a tournament with loads and loads of
subplots going on. Streetfighter combat seems pretty well suited to running
without a GM (at least in my very limited experience) so most of the matches
could be run by the players themselves.

Anybody have suggestions or reasons it would be pretty much unworkable?

>>

actually, i have been working on and off on a SF LARP game. so far, the only
thing i have to work on is interaction between other WoD creatures... already
have things for mages, werewolves, and vampires, but still need stuff for
wraiths and fae.
i almost had a chance to play test it awhile back, but the LARP group i was
going to try it on/with broke up for various reasons, so i never got to try...

Hey, man. Way to go.

>From: azathoth05@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@...
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Weddin' bells...
>Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:27:32 -0800
>
>Well my fiancee does not game, do kung fu, watch anime, read comics,
>play PC or PS games(although she does a mean supernintendo and loves
>sit down two player Crusin USA at Nathans), but at least we watch WWF
>together. Oh yeah, and when the guys come over for our weekly game she
>makes us dinner and lets us basically play in peace, which believe me
>for most of us gamers is the most we could ever hope for from a
>non-gaming girl. So the moral is, if you can't get a girl who games,
>and you get get your girl to game, at least get a girl who puts up with
>long nights of hex maps and die rolling without giving you any crap
>about your hobbies. Amen. (although she still wishes I'd sell some of
>these damn comics-they do take up the entire walk in bedroom closet
>after all) :)
>
>
>"chris krug-iron" <inrifros-@...> wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=3111
> > I have to congratulate Steve for getting married (and a 'uge raise,
>way to
> > go!). I have to disagree with Andy, however. Take my girlfriend for
> > example: avid RPGer, DAMN cute, and studies Kung Fu. How can you go
>wrong,
> > here?
> >
> >
> > >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Weddin' bells...
> > >Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:41:43 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >Well Andy, I've always prided (prode?) myself on being as non-nerdly
>as
> > >possible. One *can* enjoy intellectual pursuits and still develop
> > >socially.
> > >
> > >Although, given the cross-section of people attending any RPG
>convention
> > >I ever went to, your hypothesis is well-founded.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Andy [mailto:dlatrex@...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 11:24 PM
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Weddin' bells...
> > >
> > >
> > >CONGRATS! Good news steve, we're all MORE than happy for ya....
> > >Except me.
> > >
> > >Wait...if you're getting married, that must mean that you know a
>girl!
> > >This
> > >is a problem.
> > >You see, i'm a bio-major pre professional/pre med...with and
>emphasis in
> > >Zoology have aspirations of a behaviorist.
> > >Through years of careful observation i was able to make a hypothesis
> > >that
> > >the RPG nerd was not acctually able to make contact with the female
>of
> > >the
> > >species.
> > >These new findings seem to contradict my theory.
> > >However it's just based on hearsay, and untill I have evidence I can
> > >retain
> > >my hypothesis.!!!!
> > >
> > >...............
> > >
> > >
> > >*little thunder*
> > >
> > >...............
> > >
> > >*crickets again.....*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:27 PM
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: "Friendly" Fight for Gateway Tournament.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > we're not *completely* dead.
> > > >
> > > > I, however, am not at all well.
> > > >
> > > > To make a long story short, there's been this big project at work
> > >that's
> > > > kept me away from my computer at home. I haven't had a day off
>in a
> > > > month, and a few days ago I worked thirty hours straight.
>Needless to
> > > > say, my E-mail box doesn't get much of a workout anymore. I even
> > > > subscribed to the list at work so I could at least read new
>messages,
> > > > even if I couldn't respond.
> > > >
> > > > The fact that the new version of my Quake 2 mod is now three weeks
> > >late
> > > > because of this is irking me greatly, especially since the only
>reason
> > >I
> > > > haven't released it is I have *THREE* pages left of the manual to
> > >type.
> > > > THREE! AAAGH!
> > > >
> > > > However, one good thing has come of the past month. I've gotten
> > > > engaged. Okay, two. Yesterday, I got an enormous raise.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, that's where I've been. Somebody help me. :p
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Baker [mailto:cbaker@...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:12 PM
> > > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: "Friendly" Fight for Gateway
>Tournament.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wow, this is the first Streetfighter E-Mail I've gotten in two
>days! I
> > > > thought you were all dead! Where is everybody!
> > > >
> > > > -- Chris B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: staredown@...
> > > > > Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > > > Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:20:15 -0800
> > > > > To: streetfighter@...
> > > > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: "Friendly" Fight for Gateway
> > >Tournament.
> > > > >
> > > > > rinaldo gambetta <rinald-@...> wrote:
> > > > > original
> > > > article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=3075
> > > > >> When I wait for new fighters from the list people, me and Chris
> > > > > Hoffmann agree to
> > > > >> make a friendly fight to show the people how is this tourmanent
> > >will
> > > > > work. I know maybe
> > > > >> there are some mistakes but I hope this run without problems.
> > >Robert
> > > > > Pascuttini when your
> > > > >> fighter is ready I make a test fight with you too.
> > > > >
> > > > > [sniped the fight which ends in 6 rounds w/out my guy even
>touching
> > > > his
> > > > > opponent.]
> > > > >
> > > > > How...embarrassing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll go hunt Akuma _next_ year, maybe.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar!
> > > > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=streetfighter&m=1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault
> > > > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/streetfighter/?m=1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >eGroup Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/
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