In a message dated 10/25/99 6:23:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
rinaldo@... writes:

>
> Sure thing, but if build the style how much chi and willpower are

good?

> Or
> the chi and willpower are "normal" from W.O.D books?
>

Hmm, don't mages start off with five willpower? Which would give them a
chi rate of two or so, wouldn't it? Of course, quintessence and chi are
essentially the same thing in the WoD, but allowing someone to have
effectively twenty chi seems rather unfair. Or you can be nasty and say that
mages have no natural chi, but must use the heartblood rote to make use of
their own lifeforce. That would guarantee that mages stuck to rotes.
As for werewolves, I believe Stargazers start with five, and for whatever
reason allowing kalindoka to use their gnosis as chi doesn't bother me. Of
course one can't use gnosis and rage in the same turn, perhaps that is why. :)

mitzp-@... wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2938

> none

Sorry to say But he already beat Apocolypse, M.Bison, Akuma, Ryu (sort
of),
and probobly more than you think.
Frightning is it not!

Eric

Does any know what order the various material for the MK one bonus
rounds come in? I know it starts with wood, then stone, but I can't
remeber after that. I'm thinking of adding this to my Bonus rules
section.

Yeah you think that's bad. I work in a computer lab
and we got Office 2000. You know how everything is
supposed to be web based right well half of the time
when you try to "Save as Web Page" in word or excel it
turns it into garbage and the other half of the time
you can't even access what you've saved. Don't you
just love microsoft products.

-Chad Phillips

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> too
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> > microsoft I really don't like them.
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>
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>From: JSorochins@...

Hey j.
As for bison being part of the darkstalkers universe..I dunno.
But I have no idead where you got the idea that rose is anita from
darkstalkers.
there has never been a claim to prove that. Rose used to be bisons disciple.

As for cammy...supposedly according to SFa3 , she is bisons clone.

>This is far from official, but I suspect that Bison is from the Darkstalker
>universe. The only reason I have for this is I think Rose was Anita and
>she
>obviously has a connection to Bison (she is hunting him down)
>
>As far as Cammy goes, I believe the official story was she used to be a
>assassin for and a lover of M. Bison, but somehow she got amnesia and ended
>up working for English Intelligence. But I could be wrong.
>
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Is that is the same site that says dan used to train with ken and ryu, and
then quit, and they woul;d train with retsu as well?
I m sorry Ive done a lot of research into Sf lately but I dont full
go with that site.

>From: JSorochins@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Re:
>Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 03:01:57 EDT
>
>In a message dated 10/8/99 11:49:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>SlpStck@...
>writes:
>
><< i thought it was she got amnesia, and became an assasian and lover for
>bison.
> then, she got her memories back, and re-joined MI-6... but, i could be
>wrong
> >>
>
>OK, this is what I get from, Gamespot, the best Streetfighter video game
>site
>I have found (at least as far as backstory goes):
>
>Cammy
>
>
>Cammy's background is as mysterious as that of any other Street Fighter;
>apparently, as an agent working for Shadaloo, Cammy was one of its best. On
>her last mission for M. Bison, she lost her memory and had to start over
>with
>a new identity. She was apparently rescued by secret operatives who trained
>her as one of their own. She was then released to eliminate Shadaloo, the
>syndicate that spawned her in the first place. Her intentions are not only
>to
>destroy M. Bison, but to learn as much as she can about her forgotten past.
>
>Though a small warrior, she is deadly nonetheless as a swift and precise
>assassin. Her blows are focused on her enemies' weakest points, and she can
>avoid most attacks with graceful ease. Her legs are very strong and can
>flip
>a man three times her size with little effort. Her main target is M. Bison,
>and should she succeed in locating him, she may learn that the truth is
>sometimes best left unknown. When she learns that she and M. Bison were
>once
>lovers, she denounces him fully and leaves Shadaloo forever behind her.
>
>Note: In the Street Fighter Alpha 3 storyline, Cammy appears to be a clone
>sharing some of M. Bison's DNA like Juni and Juli.
>
>
>The site's address is:
>http://videogames.gamespot.com/features/universal/sfhistory/char.html
>
>Good for a lot of info on the whole Streetfighter series
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Hey rinaldo Im back..
Sorry I lost my modem for a while. I stil have that letter.
I kept it cause we might need it.

>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Gateway Tournament
>Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:46:52 -0300
>
>
>
> I was wondering about points of experience for the winner and loser,
>how many are
>good, I already discuss this with the people and Robert Pascuttini give me
>a good
>idea but I lost that mail with that info, if you this could you write the
>points
>again.
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Hey steve. I assume your talking about Dr. Massaki Hatsumi
Yah Ive read his books somewhat. Very interesting. Ill talk ytou about it in
a ersonal email instead.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:21:32 -0400
>
>hey folks, just thought I'd toss in my two cents on ninjas and Honor again,
>seeing as how I'm currently reading a book written by a fellow who studied
>under one of the last masters of the Togakure-Ryu ninjitsu school in Japan.
>
>The ninja's philosophy with regards to fighting is very different from the
>honor put forth on the circuit, and this book shows that in great detail.
>Eventually I'm going to do a full writeup on the style for SF Central, but
>for now, just take my word on the fact that any ninja PC who doesn't "hold
>back" and alter his philosophies to fit the honorable methods of the
>circuit will indeed take honor penalties for his actions. I can go into
>further detail if you wish, but that's the bottom line.
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under maybe a crappie GM yeah but umm played to what they should be there
anit no way

Uhh guys, they actually give you the rules in Sf on how to play with a hit
roll and then apply a damage roll.

>From: "Christian Conkle" <conkle@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:30:31 -0400
>
>Really, they didn't remove the "to-hit" roll from Street Fighter entirely.
>
>Think of it this way, they included the "to-hit" roll with the damage roll.
>
>In normal STG's, you roll X dice to hit, then Y dice for damage. Result,
>you
>roll X+Y dice.
>
>In Street Fighter, you roll X+Y dice to apply damage. Result, you roll X+Y
>dice.
>
>Sure, there are some minor statistical differences between the two, but the
>end result is ESSENTIALLY the same, without the extra die roll. If you
>really wanted to simulate finesse and dodging in the rules, you can change
>one minor mechanic without adding a whole different die roll:
>
>Add DEX to the attacker's and defender's die pools. You'll roll more dice,
>but they'll cancel each other out. However, if you're more dextrous than
>your opponent, you'll have that 1 or 2 success edge.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>; <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:16 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>
>
> > No argument about the storyteller dice system, that's why I don't use
>it.
> >
> > -- Chris B
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 5:08 PM
> > >
> >
> > > I likw the one-roll combat for streetfighter. makes combat fast and
>furious.
> > > There is no "automatic hit" in my game however. If you get no
>successes,
>or
> > > botch a roll, it is concidered that you missed. Yes, this means that
>misses
> > > are much less likely than in other storyteller games, but I would hate
>to
> > > play an awesome fighter that missed all the time, lol. And you get
>that
>alot
> > > with "to hit" rolls in Storyteller.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
> > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
> > > streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:21 AM
> > > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >
> > >
> > >>One of the problems with Street Fighter is it's automatic hit, some of
> > > these
> > >>problems could be solved with an attack/defense roll.
> > >>
> > >>-- Chris B
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----------
> > >>>From: "Chris Krug-Iron" <inrifrost@...>
> > >>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >>>Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 2:27 AM
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> About the Number Cruncher's Combo...well, I think that the book does
>say
> > >>> something about that. A dizzy combination does have its limits.
>First
> > > of
> > >>> all, the combination must be purchased in order. First move, second
> > > move,
> > >>> THIRD move, then dizzy. Not two maneuvers, then dizzy, but three
> > > maneuvers
> > >>> then dizzy. Also, while he IS aiming for a ridiculous speed bonus
>then
> > >>> doing the Repeating Fireball, why not take him down a few pegs with
>an
> > > NPC
> > >>> that has a Block to Energy Reflection Combo? Sorry, I've had a
>couple
>of
> > >>> players that like to do really cheesy things hence I've gotten a
>little
> > >>> bitter. But, while the book says squat about multiple hit maneuvers
>in
> > >>> combinations to dizzy opponents, look at the World Warriors in the
>main
> > >>> sourcebook. Fei Long has a Fierce to Fierce to Rekka Ken
> > >>> combo...effectively an extended combination. While this is
>extremely
> > >>> long-winded, the best advice is to use your own judgement; you're
>the
> > >>> ST...what you say goes.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
> > >>>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >>>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >>>>Subject: [streetfighter] This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >>>>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:35:09 -0400
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Ok, the Number Crunchers from hell (Thanx for that term Steve) have
>run
> > >>>>amuck again. PLease tell me what you think:
> > >>>>One of my players <Kabaddi> has decided to make a combo.....a DIzzy
>combo
> > >>>>at that, however I don't know if it woudl be concidered kosher. He
>wants
> > >>>>Block-to-Repeating fireball (Dizzy). I thought that the whole
>purpose
>of
> > >>>>making it a dizzy combo was to tally the damadges of mutiple
>manuvers,
> > > not
> > >>>>a SINGLE multiple hit maneuver. The book says squat about this....
>anyone
> > >>>>have a verdict?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Andy.
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Hey any GM with respect for the streetfighter rpg would not let someone
actually beat let this crap go on but I think CRAP(I mean SHOCK) should
stop being talked about cause it is stupid! No affense to you bud but
your gm sucks!

actually the single roll attack is done very well and I would say its
possibly more accurate than a to hit roll in many ways.

>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:08:51 -0400
>
>One of the problems with Street Fighter is it's automatic hit, some of
>these
>problems could be solved with an attack/defense roll.
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
> >From: "Chris Krug-Iron" <inrifrost@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> >Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 2:27 AM
> >
>
> > About the Number Cruncher's Combo...well, I think that the book does say
> > something about that. A dizzy combination does have its limits. First
>of
> > all, the combination must be purchased in order. First move, second
>move,
> > THIRD move, then dizzy. Not two maneuvers, then dizzy, but three
>maneuvers
> > then dizzy. Also, while he IS aiming for a ridiculous speed bonus then
> > doing the Repeating Fireball, why not take him down a few pegs with an
>NPC
> > that has a Block to Energy Reflection Combo? Sorry, I've had a couple
>of
> > players that like to do really cheesy things hence I've gotten a little
> > bitter. But, while the book says squat about multiple hit maneuvers in
> > combinations to dizzy opponents, look at the World Warriors in the main
> > sourcebook. Fei Long has a Fierce to Fierce to Rekka Ken
> > combo...effectively an extended combination. While this is extremely
> > long-winded, the best advice is to use your own judgement; you're the
> > ST...what you say goes.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] This sounds pretty stupid.
> >>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:35:09 -0400
> >>
> >>Ok, the Number Crunchers from hell (Thanx for that term Steve) have run
> >>amuck again. PLease tell me what you think:
> >>One of my players <Kabaddi> has decided to make a combo.....a DIzzy
>combo
> >>at that, however I don't know if it woudl be concidered kosher. He wants
> >>Block-to-Repeating fireball (Dizzy). I thought that the whole purpose of
> >>making it a dizzy combo was to tally the damadges of mutiple manuvers,
>not
> >>a SINGLE multiple hit maneuver. The book says squat about this....
>anyone
> >>have a verdict?
> >>
> >>Andy.
> >>
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Yah I thought so. Ive read it to, Most of the stuff from the SF
ninja character is taken straight from that.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:16:25 -0400
>
>The Ninja and Their Secret Fighting art by Stephen K. Hayes.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
>streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 1:23 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>
>
> Is it Ninpo Living and thinking as a Warrior? by Jack Hoban? - Another
>good Ninja philosophy book.
> If not, could you send me the title and author? I'd like to read it.
>
> -- Chris B
>
>
> ----------
> From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
> To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
> Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 10:21 PM
>
>
>
> hey folks, just thought I'd toss in my two cents on ninjas and
>Honor again, seeing as how I'm currently reading a book written by a fellow
>who studied under one of the last masters of the Togakure-Ryu ninjitsu
>school in Japan.
>
> The ninja's philosophy with regards to fighting is very different
>from the honor put forth on the circuit, and this book shows that in great
>detail. Eventually I'm going to do a full writeup on the style for SF
>Central, but for now, just take my word on the fact that any ninja PC who
>doesn't "hold back" and alter his philosophies to fit the honorable methods
>of the circuit will indeed take honor penalties for his actions. I can go
>into further detail if you wish, but that's the bottom line.
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Im sorry but Im sceptical as well.
According to the rules for learning time in "The perfect warrior"
module, it would take 8 months for a person to learn dragon punch
(or something like that) and 250 moves is just unbeleivable.
more than half of the moves he wouldnt bother learning....
and Id make some on like that make a roll from time to time to make him lose
or forget certain moves.

Now this is a personal thing two, but if that were a real person
he has wasted alot of his time. I wouldnt call that a martial arts
master.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:11:22 -0700
>
>hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys ben
>running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to get
>the
>experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning character!
>My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would get his
>face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at those
>stats.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>
>
> >Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
> >see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
> >putting every background and skill on here would take
> >to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
> >someday.
> >
> >A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
> >everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
> >for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
> >Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
> >1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
> >can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
> >world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
> >somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
> >truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
> >mentals but no one ever said just because you are
> >smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
> >Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
> >Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
> >because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
> >actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
> >when he became a world warrior he started over total =
> >42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
> >and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
> >both shock and his opponent in this case fell
> >unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
> >9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
> >wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
> >thank you very much chris.
> >
> >Charcter: Grand Master Shock
> >Style: Westren Kickboxing
> >Team: Incinerators
> >Player: Chad Phillips
> >School: Zaire School
> >Concept: Soldier
> >Chronicle: N/A
> >Stable: N/A
> >Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
> >turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
> >
> >Strength: OOOOOO
> >Dexterity: OOOOOO
> >Stamina: OOOOOO
> >Charisma: OOO
> >Manipulation: OO
> >Apperance: OO
> >Perception: OO
> >Intelligence: OOOOO
> >Wits: OOOO
> >
> >Punch: OOOOOO
> >Kick: OOOOOO
> >Block: OOOOOO
> >Grab: OOOOO
> >Athletics: OOOOO
> >Focus: OOOOOO
> >Gun: OOOOOO
> >
> >Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
> >Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
> >
> >Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
> >Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
> >Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
> >
> >Wins: 110
> >Loss: 1
> >Draw: 2
> >KO: 112
> >
> >Super Bar: 3
> >
> >I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
> >I think he knows about 250.
> >
> >Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!
> >
> >If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
> >pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
> >a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
> >him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
> >"Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
> >still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
> >no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
> >surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
> >super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
> >Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
> >part of the group. He works for Learson
> >Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
> >to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
> >plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
> >version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
> >are school(still under construction). He is grand
> >master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
> >manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
> >crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
> >storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
> >said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
> >30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
> >fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
> >Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
> >can't find him.
> >
> >Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
> >fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
> >in the reply please.
> >
> >--- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:
> >> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
> >> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
> >> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
> >> should have shredded him.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> >> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> >> To: streetfighter@...
> >> <streetfighter@...>
> >> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
> >> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
> >> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
> >> thanks.
> >>
> >> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
> >> that
> >> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
> >> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
> >> of
> >> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
> >> look
> >> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
> >> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
> >> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
> >> he's
> >> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
> >> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
> >> anything. He has beaten:
> >> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
> >> story),
> >> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
> >> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
> >> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
> >> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
> >> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
> >> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
> >> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
> >> whole
> >> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
> >> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
> >> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
> >> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
> >> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
> >> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
> >> friends
> >> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
> >> than
> >> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
> >> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
> >> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
> >> repeatedly
> >> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
> >> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
> >> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
> >> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
> >> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
> >> which
> >> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
> >> made
> >> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
> >> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
> >> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
> >> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
> >> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
> >> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
> >> evil
> >> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
> >> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
> >> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
> >> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
> >>
> >> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
> >> from
> >> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
> >> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
> >> destuctive?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Chad Phillips
> >>
> >> =====
> >>
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Kailindo: (the hard one)

For a Street Fighter to use, I'd say Chi 2, Willpower 5. Also required are
one of the two merits below, in addition to enough Animal Hybrid to cover
the neccessary shift. (5 for Lupus or Hispo, 3 for Crinos)

'Hidden Power', 2 pt Merit: Freak Legion

'Shapechanger', 3, 5, 8 pt Merit: Ascension's Right Hand (repr. Mage
Chronicles 2) & Bygone Bestiary.

-3 pt: 1 Alternate form
-5 pt: Can become a group of forms (dogs, cats, fish, people,
mind-shattering horrors)
-8 pts: Can become anything he has enough advantages* to apply.

*Accompanying advantages if Animal Hybrid is not used: (same books)

Sizes 3/5/8
-3 pts: Light size alterations (still human range of 100 - 500 lbs)
-5 pts: Consderably outside human range: Small dogs and cats to large
horses
-8 pts: MUCH larger or smaller (great Whites, mice)
- Each level adds (larger) or subtracts (smaller) 1 Health Level and 1
Strength OR Stamina

Water Breathing (2 pts)

Wings (variable) - Flight time = 4 yards per turn per point spent. (Max 5
points); 3 points for Shapechangers

Nightsight: 3 pts

Claws/Fangs/Horns: 3pts for the 1, 5pts for 2, 7pts for all three

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Steel, then Ruby, then Diamond. Hope it helps.

>From: staredown@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@...
>Subject: [streetfighter] Test Your Might
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:05:49 -0700
>
>Does any know what order the various material for the MK one bonus
>rounds come in? I know it starts with wood, then stone, but I can't
>remeber after that. I'm thinking of adding this to my Bonus rules
>section.
>
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Do: (Mage)

Chi 3, WP 4
Focus must be the 'Primary' Technique (no other may be greater)
Must be at at least 3 initially.


Kibatsumejutsu (The Gangrel Vampire one from WoD: Combat:)

Chi 1, WP 3, Animal Hybrid 3 (or Claw Merit automatic)


Devil Judgement (Demon Hunter X)

Chi 3, Willpower 4
Focus must be at 2 or higher to have this style.

Could you do me a favor and post those rules? I don't have that book.
My house rule for learning moves is that it is much faster to learn if
taught by a decent sensei, I've made a list of teachers that will teach
characters a move for less xp but most take a side adventure to locate
and train with, and often require services first or a test to prove the
character is worthy. The actual training time is negliable if they
manage to accomplish all that. Otherwise they can pay full xp to learn
the move without a trainer.
My rule is that for each dot the trainer has in his sensei/teaching
skill, 1 xp is subtracted from the purchase cost in xp, up to a maximum
equal to the power points the manuever costs. Basically, for each dot
in teaching he lowers the cost of a single power point from 4xp to 3xp,
but can only affect a single power point for each dot in teaching.
This prevents senseis with a teaching skill of 5 from teaching jump and
power uppercut for free. I support the spontaneous maneuver learning
rules as it goes with the spirit of the anime. Many times in anime out
of desperation a character pulls off a move he never could before or
accesses powers he never knew he had. Street Fighter is the only RPG
where I let players spend XP during the game instead of inbetween
sessions. Of course they have to roll to see if they learn the
maneuver or else the xp is wasted and specials are the only things they
can spend xp on in this way.




"robert pascuttini" <rpascuttin-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2968

> Im sorry but Im sceptical as well.
> According to the rules for learning time in "The perfect warrior"
> module, it would take 8 months for a person to learn dragon punch
> (or something like that) and 250 moves is just unbeleivable.
> more than half of the moves he wouldnt bother learning....
> and Id make some on like that make a roll from time to time to make

him lose

> or forget certain moves.
>
> Now this is a personal thing two, but if that were a real person
> he has wasted alot of his time. I wouldnt call that a martial arts
> master.
>
>
>
> >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:11:22 -0700
> >
> >hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys

ben

> >running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to

get

> >the
> >experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning

character!

> >My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would

get his

> >face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at

those

> >stats.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >
> >
> > >Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
> > >see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
> > >putting every background and skill on here would take
> > >to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
> > >someday.
> > >
> > >A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
> > >everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
> > >for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
> > >Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
> > >1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
> > >can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
> > >world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
> > >somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
> > >truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
> > >mentals but no one ever said just because you are
> > >smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
> > >Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
> > >Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
> > >because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
> > >actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
> > >when he became a world warrior he started over total =
> > >42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
> > >and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
> > >both shock and his opponent in this case fell
> > >unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
> > >9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
> > >wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
> > >thank you very much chris.
> > >
> > >Charcter: Grand Master Shock
> > >Style: Westren Kickboxing
> > >Team: Incinerators
> > >Player: Chad Phillips
> > >School: Zaire School
> > >Concept: Soldier
> > >Chronicle: N/A
> > >Stable: N/A
> > >Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
> > >turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
> > >
> > >Strength: OOOOOO
> > >Dexterity: OOOOOO
> > >Stamina: OOOOOO
> > >Charisma: OOO
> > >Manipulation: OO
> > >Apperance: OO
> > >Perception: OO
> > >Intelligence: OOOOO
> > >Wits: OOOO
> > >
> > >Punch: OOOOOO
> > >Kick: OOOOOO
> > >Block: OOOOOO
> > >Grab: OOOOO
> > >Athletics: OOOOO
> > >Focus: OOOOOO
> > >Gun: OOOOOO
> > >
> > >Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
> > >Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
> > >
> > >Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
> > >Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
> > >Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
> > >
> > >Wins: 110
> > >Loss: 1
> > >Draw: 2
> > >KO: 112
> > >
> > >Super Bar: 3
> > >
> > >I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
> > >I think he knows about 250.
> > >
> > >Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!
> > >
> > >If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
> > >pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
> > >a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
> > >him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
> > >"Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
> > >still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
> > >no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
> > >surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
> > >super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
> > >Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
> > >part of the group. He works for Learson
> > >Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
> > >to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
> > >plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
> > >version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
> > >are school(still under construction). He is grand
> > >master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
> > >manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
> > >crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
> > >storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
> > >said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
> > >30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
> > >fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
> > >Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
> > >can't find him.
> > >
> > >Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
> > >fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
> > >in the reply please.
> > >
> > >--- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:
> > >> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
> > >> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
> > >> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
> > >> should have shredded him.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> > >> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> > >> To: streetfighter@...
> > >> <streetfighter@...>
> > >> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
> > >> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
> > >> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
> > >> thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
> > >> that
> > >> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
> > >> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
> > >> of
> > >> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
> > >> look
> > >> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
> > >> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
> > >> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
> > >> he's
> > >> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
> > >> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
> > >> anything. He has beaten:
> > >> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
> > >> story),
> > >> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
> > >> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
> > >> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
> > >> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
> > >> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
> > >> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
> > >> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
> > >> whole
> > >> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
> > >> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
> > >> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
> > >> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
> > >> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
> > >> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
> > >> friends
> > >> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
> > >> than
> > >> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
> > >> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
> > >> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
> > >> repeatedly
> > >> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
> > >> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
> > >> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
> > >> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
> > >> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
> > >> which
> > >> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
> > >> made
> > >> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
> > >> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
> > >> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
> > >> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
> > >> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
> > >> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
> > >> evil
> > >> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
> > >> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
> > >> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
> > >> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
> > >> from
> > >> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
> > >> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
> > >> destuctive?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Chad Phillips
> > >>
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I have to agree with this. We've been using 7 as the new default
target # (a la Abberant) and we get results of no damage much more
often than we used to. One time I rolled one 8 and four 6's! That
would have given me 5 hits and dizzied him under the old system but in
the new one it was just a scratch. I find that matches take the same
amount of time but anything that scores no damage is considered a miss
or that the defandent dodged, if the defendant was blocking he is
considered to have parried or turned aside the attack. This also adds
a more cinematic, Jackie Chan style flair as attacks that seem brutal
are narrowly averted through sheer luck of the dice. It's especially
brutal because unlike Aberrant I still let 1's cancel out successes! A
botch results in a -2 speed penalty the next turn(happens more often
that you'd think). If you get a chance try using 7 as the target
number and let me know what you think.



"robert pascuttini" <rpascuttin-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2966

> actually the single roll attack is done very well and I would say its
> possibly more accurate than a to hit roll in many ways.
>
>
> >From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:08:51 -0400
> >
> >One of the problems with Street Fighter is it's automatic hit, some

of

> >these
> >problems could be solved with an attack/defense roll.
> >
> >-- Chris B
> >
> >
> >----------
> > >From: "Chris Krug-Iron" <inrifrost@...>
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 2:27 AM
> > >
> >
> > > About the Number Cruncher's Combo...well, I think that the book

does say

> > > something about that. A dizzy combination does have its limits.

First

> >of
> > > all, the combination must be purchased in order. First move,

second

> >move,
> > > THIRD move, then dizzy. Not two maneuvers, then dizzy, but three
> >maneuvers
> > > then dizzy. Also, while he IS aiming for a ridiculous speed

bonus then

> > > doing the Repeating Fireball, why not take him down a few pegs

with an

> >NPC
> > > that has a Block to Energy Reflection Combo? Sorry, I've had a

couple

> >of
> > > players that like to do really cheesy things hence I've gotten a

little

> > > bitter. But, while the book says squat about multiple hit

maneuvers in

> > > combinations to dizzy opponents, look at the World Warriors in

the main

> > > sourcebook. Fei Long has a Fierce to Fierce to Rekka Ken
> > > combo...effectively an extended combination. While this is

extremely

> > > long-winded, the best advice is to use your own judgement;

you're the

> > > ST...what you say goes.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
> > >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >>Subject: [streetfighter] This sounds pretty stupid.
> > >>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:35:09 -0400
> > >>
> > >>Ok, the Number Crunchers from hell (Thanx for that term Steve)

have run

> > >>amuck again. PLease tell me what you think:
> > >>One of my players <Kabaddi> has decided to make a combo.....a

DIzzy

> >combo
> > >>at that, however I don't know if it woudl be concidered kosher.

He wants

> > >>Block-to-Repeating fireball (Dizzy). I thought that the whole

purpose of

> > >>making it a dizzy combo was to tally the damadges of mutiple

manuvers,

> >not
> > >>a SINGLE multiple hit maneuver. The book says squat about

this....

> >anyone
> > >>have a verdict?
> > >>
> > >>Andy.
> > >>
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In a message dated 10/25/99 12:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rpascuttini@... writes:

<< Hey j.
As for bison being part of the darkstalkers universe..I dunno.
But I have no idead where you got the idea that rose is anita from
darkstalkers.
there has never been a claim to prove that. Rose used to be bisons disciple.

As for cammy...supposedly according to SFa3 , she is bisons clone. >>

We posted up the reasons for the Anita/Rose connection before. Basically,
the ending to Darkstalkers 2 shows Anita in a scarf and large buttons which
some say looks like Rose and some say don't. Also, it is established in
Darkstalkers that Donovan turns evil and that Anita and Donovan have a
psychic link. In Alpha 2 (or was it 3?), Rose's ending implies that She and
Bison also share a link.

Not conclusive evidence, I admit, but still it is fun to speculate.

In a message dated 10/25/99 12:49:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rpascuttini@... writes:

<< Is that is the same site that says dan used to train with ken and ryu, and
then quit, and they woul;d train with retsu as well?
I m sorry Ive done a lot of research into Sf lately but I dont full
go with that site. >>

I don't remember if that is in any of the games or not. It is more of a
explaination of the similarity of styles (I believe). And Retsu is the first
opponent of Ken and Ryu in Street Fighter 1, so I imagine him as a senior
student of Ken and Ryu's master and the fight as a sort of graduation test
before they are allowed to go out into the world.

But as info on Retsu is very slim, this is just my preference. It has
dramatic potential for me. so I like it.

I dont choose ahead oh time ...I do it as the book says, with story
diffrences of a month between each story....usually.

>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: POLL: How much experience do you average per
>game session?
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:27:47 -0400
>
>Actually I would give between 3 and 6 per session. There's an awful lot to
>buy in Street Fighter, and it gets more expensive as you go.
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
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> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] POLL: How much experience do you average per
>game
>session?
> >Date: Wed, Oct 20, 1999, 1:13 AM
> >
>
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Yes its very deep speculation, with almost no substance of proof. but its
your choice to beleive what you want but Im telling you like before, there
is no relation between anita and rose, and bison and donovan, yet. Why in
the world would they change there names?
Its more likely that they used anita as a character sketch for rose.
This is like the assumption people made with yun and Yang, saying that they
are Gen's grandchildren. Theyre not.

>From: JSorochins@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Re:
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:43:56 EDT
>
>THANK YOU CHRIS! YOU ARE THE MAN!
>
>OK, so we know Donovan turns bad. From another source I posted before, we
>know that Donovan and Amanda have a psychic link. Amanda has a scarf.
>Donovan was the teacher of Amanda.
>
>I can't comment on the resemblance between Amanda and Rose at the end.
>
>From SF, M. Bison is evil. M. Bison and Rose have a psychic link (also
>posted before). Both Amanda and Rose have a scarf (does any other Capchron
>character have one?) M. Bison was Rose's teacher. Nobody in the Street
>Fighter universe seems to know where either Rose or M. Bison come from.
>
>The more I look into this, the more I suspect that the links between them
>are
>intentional. Although it might be retrofitting on Capchron's part.
>
>Of course, this is all speculation.
>
>
>In a message dated 10/19/99 9:28:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>cbaker@... writes:
>
><< Donovan's Ending in Night Warriors D.S. 2)
>
> DONOVAN > "Wha... What's happening to me?! No! No! Their Evil flowing
>from
> them into me! Flooding me, consuming me!"
>
> NARRATOR > Forced to absorb the evil of his defeated opponents, Donovan
> begins to mutate as the darkness within him alters his body.
>
> Realizing that he has sacrificed his humanity to destroy the
>Darkstalkers,
> Amanda's self imposed curse is lifted. She is able to feel emotion once
> more.
>
> AMANDA (Grown Up, doesn't really look like Rose. well she's wearing a
>scarf,
> and she has big buttons.) > "I still think of him (Donovan) I wonder if
>he
> has ever found peace, or if I shall ever see him again."
>
> NARRATOR > Donovan fights a desperate battle for his humanity against the
> darkness within him
>
> DONOVAN (Sitting in a chair with dead peasants around him, looks kinda
>like
> Vega without a claw actually) > "Amanda..."
>
> NARRATOR > He fights, but the night is long, and the darkness is patient.
> "Soon" it slavers "Soon"
>
> -- Chris B
>
> >>
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Another good source is to go to steven hayes web site on the net.
Simply type in steven hayes on the search engine.

>From: "Patrick Bateman" <two_shedz@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:41:31 BST
>
>Hi folks, If you want to find out more about the history of the ninja and
>info on their martial arts styles etc Surf the web for a guy called Masaaki
>Hatsumi. He is the head honcho or Soke of half a dozen ninjitsu ryu.
> ;)
>
>
>>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:32:05 -0400
>>
>>I'll clarify some more points.
>>
>>-- Chris B
>>
>>
>>----------
>> >From: "Kristofer Lundstr�m" <kri5tofer@...>
>> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
>> >Date: Fri, Oct 15, 1999, 8:21 PM
>> >
>>
>> >>Stephen Hayes was the (first I think) American Ninja who brought
>>popularity
>> >>to Ninjitsu in the west. He has a Ninja school in California, I
>>believe.
>> >>He's popular for the books he wrote on techniques and mysteries of the
>> >>Ninja.
>> >>
>> >>Ninjitsu was a style born of an early form of Ju-Jitsu. In case you
>> >>wondered
>> >>as to the origins.
>> >
>> > I didn't know that. And while on that, can you remind me what the other
>>name
>> > for Ninjitsu is? You know, the longer one, with a B in the beginning
>>(or
>> > does it?). I just can't seem to recall...
>>
>>I really don't know. Either I'm not remembering it, or I've never come
>>across it.
>>I know Guy trains in something called Bushin Ninjitsu, but Bushin comes
>>from
>>Bushi which means warrior I believe (Bushi was also used to describe early
>>Karate fighters). So Guy comes from a warrior clan of Ninja. Bakemono, is
>>a
>>word to describe a spectre, goblin, or other such monster, It may have
>>been
>>used to describe Ninja at one point or another.
>>Other than that, I really don't know.
>> >
>> >>It has since expanded in complexity borrowing techniques
>> >>from many other styles. Ninjitsu gets most of it's strength from it's
>> >>stealth training (Ninpo Taiijitsu), which is supposed to be the best in
>>the
>> >>world at fooling the human eye. Ninjitsu's philosophy is rather
>> >>anti-establishment. The Ninja believe their purpose is to keep the
>> >>establishment in line, by watching, and striking at times when it would
>>do
>> >>the most good for the people. They are responsible rebels hiding in
>> >>society,
>> >>if you will. (at least that is what I've read)
>> >
>> > Gee. I though they were assassins for hire. Silly me.
>>
>>Most Ninja were actually spies gathering information from the enemy within
>>the enemies' own walls. Very few ever wore a black Gi and mask. Even fewer
>>had to fight. Most worked for a living within cities and castles right
>>under
>>their enemies' noses. Listening in on important conversations, acting as
>>delivery boy for important papers and the like. If assassination became
>>necessary, the Ninja or Kunnoichi who acted as a personal aid, servant,
>>cook, concubine, etc. would just poison him while he ate, slept, etc. No
>>fuss, no muss. If poisoning became impossible, more extreme measures might
>>be taken, but with the safest means possible. Being discovered could mean
>>death to the clan.
>>Black outfits were only used in these extreme situations, when it was
>>important to be stealthy and hide the identity. Oftentimes a whole clan
>>would get involved in these excursions, not just a single person.
>>As for being for hire, I'm pretty sure the Clans worked for their best
>>interest.
>>
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HERE HERE!!!!!!!(More lightning!)

(Lets hope more lightning comes from these letters, ahem, to all.)

>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>
>The MAN!..... Chris H ! *Thumbs UP!* Yahtah ze! *Thunder crashes again
>Illuminating the world!*
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
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> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New site is down
> >Date: Thu, Oct 21, 1999, 9:34 AM
> >
>
> > *wind begins to pick-up, the sky darkens, thunder
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Yah shotokan has had an interesting history in relation to paying for
class's. I know some schools charge nothing.
There was a big problem with it a years ago while it was emerging in japan.
some people started to charge and the other teachers were against it.

>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , "'streetfighter@egroups.com'"
><streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:53:04 -0400
>
>Wow! You've had some experience! Cost depends on the school I think. My
>dojo
>only charges about 25 bucks a month. My sensei worked in Japan and lived in
>Master Nakiyama's Dojo for two years. He really doesn't care about the
>money, as long as we train hard. (I once went for six months without
>paying,
>I was told not to worry about it, they just didn't want me to give up.)
>
>I've heard about some schools that promise your blackbelt in six months if
>you pay 100 bucks extra. It's no wonder why some people don't think martial
>arts are effective.
>
>I think it's important to shop around, try all the dojo's you can, until
>you
>find a good one that you can afford.
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
> >From: "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...>
> >To: "'streetfighter@egroups.com'" <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
> >Date: Thu, Oct 21, 1999, 12:42 PM
> >
>
> > I used to take Kenpo years ago. Just couldnt afford it anymore. I also
> > took a class where they taught you kickboxing, escrima, shoot fighting,
> > knife fighting, and some other cool stuff. But I couldnt afford that
> > either. Whats with martial arts being so damn expensive anyway?
> >
> > Mike Morgado
> > mmorgado@...
> > ext. 642
> > (519) 383-3642
> > PC/ITS
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chris Baker [SMTP:cbaker@...]
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 1:34 PM
> >> To: streetfighter@egroups.com; streetfighter@egroups.com
> >> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Artists
> >>
> >> I'm really curious, does anyone on the mailing list train in a Martial
> >> Art?
> >> I'm a yellow belt (quickly moving toward orange) in Shotokan. I think
>it
> >> would be interesting to share ideas on strategy/styles/philosophies and
> >> such
> >> for the purposes of refining or creating maneuvers and styles for
>Street
> >> Fighter. Or maybe even just for fun and information.
> >>
> >> -- Chris B
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> >From: "Patrick Bateman" <two_shedz@...>
> >> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
> >> >Date: Thu, Oct 21, 1999, 10:41 AM
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Hi folks, If you want to find out more about the history of the ninja
> >> and
> >> > info on their martial arts styles etc Surf the web for a guy called
> >> Masaaki
> >> > Hatsumi. He is the head honcho or Soke of half a dozen ninjitsu ryu.
> >> > ;)
> >>
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