Thats the problem I have with the WoD. Everytime we play Vampire, everyone
makes evil characters, except me. I always felt when roleplaying, that you
should play heroes. Needless to say my vampire character didnt really get
along with the rest of the vampires in the city. He wanted to have a good
time, but not hurt any innocent people in the process. He met his death,
when he saved a catholic priest vampire hunter from some kind of demon. No
one could figure out why he did it. My only reply was 'it was the right
thing to do'. Maybe Im too old fashioned.

Thanks

MikeM

hehehehee, if only you knew my PAIN Kristofer. I've had to fight tooth and
nail just to get my PC to play BY the rules, let alone play with moderation
under them. We finnaly have it going pretty well, and I've yet to see even a
well thought out PC that coudl take on any of the world warriors before rank
6-7.

Andy

> >
> >Thanks, Chad Phillips
>
> Am I the only Storyteller who prefers keeping the game on a moderate

level?

>
> Kristofer
>
> ______________________________________________________

>hehehehee, if only you knew my PAIN Kristofer. I've had to fight tooth and
>nail just to get my PC to play BY the rules, let alone play with moderation
>under them. We finnaly have it going pretty well, and I've yet to see even
>a
>well thought out PC that coudl take on any of the world warriors before
>rank
>6-7.
>
>Andy

Let me vent a possible reason.

All of the nine characters in my Chronicle were made by people who had never
played a WW game before. (Not with real rules anyway.) I e, those characters
were made without a hint as to what is "good" and what wasn't. To strengthen
the theory, three of the nine players made new, evil characters at one time.
Lots of mysterious, unmotivated fives appeared under Physical and
Techniques... Thank God I've never allowed Cyborgs or Hybrids.

My theory is: Players who actually know the rules have a much bigger chance
of power-playing, deliberately or otherwise.

Kristofer

P.S. I'm grateful at least someone answered "yes"!

>
>
> > >
> > >Thanks, Chad Phillips
> >
> > Am I the only Storyteller who prefers keeping the game on a moderate
>level?
> >
> > Kristofer

______________________________________________________

>Of course, none of this helps if the storyteller is not on the ball.
>According to the book, the storyteller must warn the offending player that
>he will call for a degeneration roll for the act the character is about to
>perform. This doesn't scare most vampire players with a high conscience of
>course, they'll just do it anyway.

Which brings us back to SF.

Do you ST out there warn a character who is about to lose Honor? I sure
don't. Sometimes they ask (during fights usually, when they haven't played
for 6 months and can't recall whether Glory or Honor is lost when hitting a
dizzied NME), but I hardly ever answer.

Other views?

Kristofer

P.S. Being evil in RPG just feels pointless. When you say something like
that, you have an old soul.

>
>It also doesn't help if the storyteller is intensely biased. (practically
>goes without saying. but I said it :))
>
>-- Chris B

______________________________________________________

> > I live in a small town. Most people have never even heard of
>role-playing,
> > but i think I'll give it a shot anyway, mabye introduce gaming to some
>brand
> > new people

Small town? I live in Sweden's 4th biggest city. I e "small town" by US
standards :)

Kristofer

______________________________________________________

>I try not to be... I allow almost anything as long as it's not unplayable
>in
>the campaign. My main player, also a Storyteller, wants all kinds of
>characters who break the rules, even in my Legends game, which can o almost
>anything in the storyteller system. I allow those charaters that
>interesting... but he rarely, if ever, lets me o things i want in his
>Vampire game. I wanted to make up a mage who is immortal, but is constantly
>hounded by death itself, and cannot use any of his powers to fight! He said
>no, that was too powerful. Please!

My way of being the GM/ST/wossname:

I never kill characters. A player who fucks up big time will certainly hear
about it, but his character will live. (This should _not_ be interpreted as
if I maim, torture and do anything but kill the characters. If I in theory
would be really pissed on a character, I'd simply remove something he's
really fond of, there's always something.) My players don't actually know
this though, but I haven't killed off a character in, say, 5 years, so they
might have some suspicions.

So; if one of my players would actually be prepared to give his character a
drawback (statwise or roleplay), I'd be thrilled. I'm currently running a
Discworld campaign half-pace. One of the characters owns a barber-shop. And
he's a Weirdness Magnet. Blind Io knows what might stumble into his barber
shop some late nights... And then there's the _other_ back door which
sometimes appears.

The point is the player made sure he put some points into Rapid Healing and
similar "live longer" traits, in case something really wicked would his way
come.

Kristofer

P.S. Yes, I forgot my other point. The main player/Storyteller sounds like a
drag.

______________________________________________________

what about a world where after the war the nations have started to rebuild,
and there is a sort of goverment, but hi-tech weaponry, including firearms,
are made illegal, having one punishable by death. Hi tech is still avalible
to the goverment, who "imprints" weapons to soilders, who are the only ones
that can use thier weapons (like on Judge Dread). But these guys are rare,
most people have never seen a "gun man". Also, there is very rich reward for
those who bring a gun and return it to the Goverment (who will have the guns
destroyed). After a few years of this, guns would be very, very rare, and
even those who had guns would only use them in the most desperate
circumstances, because of two things: 1) they could be put to death if they
are discovered owning a weapon, and 2) "gun-hunters" would come looking for
them, kinda like bounty hunters, but they want the gun, and are willing to
use any method neccessary to get it (some even have illegal guns themselves,
but are so proficient at thier use that nobody says anything - Boba Fett
kind of guys - but most gun-hunters don't carry guns because even they are
subject to the law).
Anyway, those are just ideas off the top of my head for a future world
full of violence but no guns.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin Wolfe <lancer1@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 2:48 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Post Apocalyptic Firearms

>It's true that guns will break down, eventually, but that eventuality could
>be a very very long time. If you take maintain your gun well, it can
>litterally still work over a hundred years from now. Case in point, the

Colt

>Single Action Army. It has lasted over a hundred years, and a well
>maintained Single Action Army can still fire as well as it did the first
>time it shot.
>
>Gun powder and bullets are not quite as difficult to make as you seem to
>think, and there were plenty of gun barrels made by blacksmiths during the
>Wild West era. That's why when there was a show down, everyone would clear
>the streets. The barrels weren't entirely straight and shooting the wrong
>person on accident wasn't that uncommon, but they got the job done.
>
>In the end, it would take something much more devastating then the
>near-destruction of the entire human race to get rid of guns. I don't think
>it will ever happen.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JSorochins@... <JSorochins@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 3:10 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Post Apocalyptic Firearms
>
>
>>In a message dated 10/10/99 9:11:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>cbaker@... writes:
>>
>><< I don't think firearms would be stopped by a nuclear war, unless of
>course
>> the whole world was dead. Remember, major centers are hit during a

nuclear

>> conflict. The countryside would get mostly fallout. The countryside is
>full
>> of guns, Hunting lodges, Cabins, gun shops, Not to mention survivalist
>> groups just waiting for the day. Most of these groups can make their own
>> bullets, and save their spent shells for recycling. >>
>>
>>Depends on how far post post apocalyptic is really. The guns are going to
>>break down eventually and the ability to make new ones is going to take
>much
>>more than a knowledge of how to make guns. You need to make gunpowder,
>which
>>is more than simply knowing the formula. Early gunpowder was not nearly

as

>>powerful as modern gunpowder. And you need to know how to smelt metal
>strong
>>enough to withstand a high velocity bullet going through it without

blowing

>>it up. And you need machines to make sure the barrel is straight enough

so

>>the gun will not blowup. In real life, it took a very long time and a
>>relatively advanced technology to be able to make guns, which is why the
>>Indians in America had to buy or steal guns rather than just make their
>own.
>>
>>Just my view on the situation.
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Believe me, I struggle. I've got a player who has a Cyborg Native American
Wrestler...can we say powerful? The only non-cheesy thing he did was to
decide NOT to go with Jeet Kune Do. When characters in my game are at a
power level, they get NPC villains and such that either meet them at that
level, or are at a slightly higher or lower power level than they are.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:58:24 -0700
>
> >Am I the only Storyteller who prefers keeping the game on a moderate
>level?
> Kristofer
>
>Nope.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kristofer Lundstr�m <kri5tofer@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 2:56 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>
>
> >>Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter that
> >>i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
> >>somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell of
> >>alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the look
> >>at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
> >>the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
> >>beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights he's
> >>not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
> >>human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
> >>anything. He has beaten:
> >>Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long story),
> >>Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
> >>many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
> >>hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
> >>Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
> >>Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
> >>charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
> >>ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a whole
> >>den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
> >>vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
> >>pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
> >>with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
> >>was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
> >>and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other friends
> >>a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse than
> >>kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
> >>exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
> >>beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat repeatedly
> >>the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
> >>tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
> >>all is that shock has died propably a conservative
> >>estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
> >>up. This man is stupid when he first met the one which
> >>is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him made
> >>fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
> >>buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
> >>them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
> >>thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
> >>tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
> >>Example one time he burned millions of dollars in evil
> >>artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
> >>teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
> >>sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
> >>kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
> >>
> >>Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside from
> >>me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
> >>annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
> >>destuctive?
> >>
> >>Thanks, Chad Phillips
> >
> >Am I the only Storyteller who prefers keeping the game on a moderate
>level?
> >
> > Kristofer
> >
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From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>; streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:46 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas

Thanks ! Stephen Hayes was really popular in the 80's
-- Chris B


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From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 7:16 PM

The Ninja and Their Secret Fighting art by Stephen K. Hayes.

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From: Chris Baker <cbaker@... <mailto:cbaker@...> >
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >; streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 1:23 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas

Is it Ninpo Living and thinking as a Warrior? by Jack Hoban? - Another good Ninja philosophy book.
If not, could you send me the title and author? I'd like to read it.

-- Chris B


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Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 10:21 PM

hey folks, just thought I'd toss in my two cents on ninjas and Honor again, seeing as how I'm currently reading a book written by a fellow who studied under one of the last masters of the Togakure-Ryu ninjitsu school in Japan.
 
The ninja's philosophy with regards to fighting is very different from the honor put forth on the circuit, and this book shows that in great detail.  Eventually I'm going to do a full writeup on the style for SF Central, but for now, just take my word on the fact that any ninja PC who doesn't "hold back" and alter his philosophies to fit the honorable methods of the circuit will indeed take honor penalties for his actions.  I can go into further detail if you wish, but that's the bottom line.

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Yeah we actually had that happen here in New Brunswick, never saw it though. -- Chris B ---------- >From: JSorochins@... >To: streetfighter@egroups.com >Subject: [streetfighter] Fortean >Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 10:24 PM > > In a message dated 10/12/99 4:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > cbaker@... writes: > > << I've watched every connections episode I could catch. (even the old ones on > BBC) A very good show. The only respected science-philosophy show that makes > statements mainstream science wouldn't. > Did I mention I was a Fortean? >> > > Don't you just hate those pesky rains of frogs? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >

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Ok well first of all could the person who runs the dogs of war website please post his web site adress thanks. Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter that i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell of alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the look at the link I put up in the links room at all he is the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights he's not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in anything. He has beaten: Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long story), Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda, Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan, Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a whole den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other friends a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse than kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one), beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat repeatedly the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it all is that shock has died propably a conservative estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back up. This man is stupid when he first met the one which is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him made fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For Example one time he burned millions of dollars in evil artifacts good act, another time his best friend and teemate decided to go kill the person that had been sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to kill him and send to the demon world evil act. Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside from me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right destuctive? Thanks, Chad Phillips ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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I like it, it has a dark gritty feel, Street Fighters secretly fighting the
system. The government's power would be practically absolute. I wonder who
would be in charge of this government...hmmm?

-- Chris B


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>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Post Apocalyptic Firearms
>Date: Thu, Oct 14, 1999, 7:40 PM
>

> what about a world where after the war the nations have started to rebuild,
> and there is a sort of goverment, but hi-tech weaponry, including firearms,
> are made illegal, having one punishable by death. Hi tech is still avalible
> to the goverment, who "imprints" weapons to soilders, who are the only ones
> that can use thier weapons (like on Judge Dread). But these guys are rare,
> most people have never seen a "gun man". Also, there is very rich reward for
> those who bring a gun and return it to the Goverment (who will have the guns
> destroyed). After a few years of this, guns would be very, very rare, and
> even those who had guns would only use them in the most desperate
> circumstances, because of two things: 1) they could be put to death if they
> are discovered owning a weapon, and 2) "gun-hunters" would come looking for
> them, kinda like bounty hunters, but they want the gun, and are willing to
> use any method neccessary to get it (some even have illegal guns themselves,
> but are so proficient at thier use that nobody says anything - Boba Fett
> kind of guys - but most gun-hunters don't carry guns because even they are
> subject to the law).
> Anyway, those are just ideas off the top of my head for a future world
> full of violence but no guns.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dustin Wolfe <lancer1@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 2:48 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Post Apocalyptic Firearms
>
>
>>It's true that guns will break down, eventually, but that eventuality could
>>be a very very long time. If you take maintain your gun well, it can
>>litterally still work over a hundred years from now. Case in point, the
> Colt
>>Single Action Army. It has lasted over a hundred years, and a well
>>maintained Single Action Army can still fire as well as it did the first
>>time it shot.
>>
>>Gun powder and bullets are not quite as difficult to make as you seem to
>>think, and there were plenty of gun barrels made by blacksmiths during the
>>Wild West era. That's why when there was a show down, everyone would clear
>>the streets. The barrels weren't entirely straight and shooting the wrong
>>person on accident wasn't that uncommon, but they got the job done.
>>
>>In the end, it would take something much more devastating then the
>>near-destruction of the entire human race to get rid of guns. I don't think
>>it will ever happen.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: JSorochins@... <JSorochins@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 3:10 PM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Post Apocalyptic Firearms
>>
>>
>>>In a message dated 10/10/99 9:11:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>cbaker@... writes:
>>>
>>><< I don't think firearms would be stopped by a nuclear war, unless of
>>course
>>> the whole world was dead. Remember, major centers are hit during a
> nuclear
>>> conflict. The countryside would get mostly fallout. The countryside is
>>full
>>> of guns, Hunting lodges, Cabins, gun shops, Not to mention survivalist
>>> groups just waiting for the day. Most of these groups can make their own
>>> bullets, and save their spent shells for recycling. >>
>>>
>>>Depends on how far post post apocalyptic is really. The guns are going to
>>>break down eventually and the ability to make new ones is going to take
>>much
>>>more than a knowledge of how to make guns. You need to make gunpowder,
>>which
>>>is more than simply knowing the formula. Early gunpowder was not nearly
> as
>>>powerful as modern gunpowder. And you need to know how to smelt metal
>>strong
>>>enough to withstand a high velocity bullet going through it without
> blowing
>>>it up. And you need machines to make sure the barrel is straight enough
> so
>>>the gun will not blowup. In real life, it took a very long time and a
>>>relatively advanced technology to be able to make guns, which is why the
>>>Indians in America had to buy or steal guns rather than just make their
>>own.
>>>
>>>Just my view on the situation.
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From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Fortean
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 1999, 8:22 PM

New Brunswick?  New Brunswick, New Jersey?
 

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From: Chris Baker <cbaker@... <mailto:cbaker@...> >
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >; streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:59 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Fortean

Yeah we actually had that happen here in New Brunswick, never saw it though.

-- Chris B


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>From: JSorochins@... <mailto:JSorochins@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Fortean
>Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 10:24 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/12/99 4:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> cbaker@... writes:
>
> << I've watched every connections episode I could catch. (even the old ones on
>  BBC) A very good show. The only respected science-philosophy show that makes
>  statements mainstream science wouldn't.
>  Did I mention I was a Fortean? >>
>
> Don't you just hate those pesky rains of frogs?
>
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In a message dated 10/14/99 8:13:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

>
> I like it, it has a dark gritty feel, Street Fighters secretly fighting
> the
> system. The government's power would be practically absolute. I wonder who
> would be in charge of this government...hmmm?

Gill comes to mind. What does an up and coming, struggling deity do when
civilization as we know it collapses? Proclaim yourself Emperor.

Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
putting every background and skill on here would take
to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
someday.

A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
mentals but no one ever said just because you are
smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
when he became a world warrior he started over total =
42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
both shock and his opponent in this case fell
unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
thank you very much chris.

Charcter: Grand Master Shock
Style: Westren Kickboxing
Team: Incinerators
Player: Chad Phillips
School: Zaire School
Concept: Soldier
Chronicle: N/A
Stable: N/A
Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.

Strength: OOOOOO
Dexterity: OOOOOO
Stamina: OOOOOO
Charisma: OOO
Manipulation: OO
Apperance: OO
Perception: OO
Intelligence: OOOOO
Wits: OOOO

Punch: OOOOOO
Kick: OOOOOO
Block: OOOOOO
Grab: OOOOO
Athletics: OOOOO
Focus: OOOOOO
Gun: OOOOOO

Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O

Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO

Wins: 110
Loss: 1
Draw: 2
KO: 112

Super Bar: 3

I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
I think he knows about 250.

Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!

If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
"Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
part of the group. He works for Learson
Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
are school(still under construction). He is grand
master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
can't find him.

Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
in the reply please.

--- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:

> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
> should have shredded him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> To: streetfighter@...
> <streetfighter@...>
> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
>
>
>
> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
> thanks.
>
> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
> that
> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
> of
> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
> look
> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
> he's
> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
> anything. He has beaten:
> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
> story),
> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
> whole
> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
> friends
> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
> than
> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
> repeatedly
> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
> which
> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
> made
> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
> evil
> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
>
> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
> from
> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
> destuctive?
>
> Thanks, Chad Phillips
>
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>
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Sorry but the other e-mail got a little long. Yes I
know chung li should have shredded him she didn't
shock the first time he fought here knocked her
unconicous in 2 turns nearly killing her. And knocked
Sakura out in 1 turn(like that was a challenge).

Sorry, Thanks I don't know for these last two e-mails
but atleast Good Luck
-Chad Phillips

--- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:

> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
> should have shredded him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> To: streetfighter@...
> <streetfighter@...>
> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
>
>
>
> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
> thanks.
>
> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
> that
> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
> of
> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
> look
> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
> he's
> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
> anything. He has beaten:
> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
> story),
> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
> whole
> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
> friends
> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
> than
> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
> repeatedly
> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
> which
> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
> made
> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
> evil
> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
>
> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
> from
> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
> destuctive?
>
> Thanks, Chad Phillips
>
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>
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Hey I went to your site did have much time to look
around byt I love the music it rocks. Its right up
there with "ba wit da ba" gotta love that song.

--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

> It's ready. You can now use MIRC to engage battles
> with you home-made street fighters. I will be
> running the tournament after I receive enough
> submissions. Please include when is the best time
> for you to play. I may also run campaigns as well
> over MIRC, have the dice roller installed and it is
> ready to use. Players and the storyteller can roll
> the dice in my rooms. I can send whoever wants it
> MIRC, instructions on how to get to the room and use
> mirc (really easy) and the instructions on how to
> make characters for the tournament.
> I am, at this point, trying to get an idea of how
> many people would be interested in this type of
> thing. Would players rather be in a campaign or
> would you rather battle?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 5:30 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Combos (was: This
> sounds pretty stupid.)
>
>
> hasn't come up yet (I won't even be starting the
> game again until November) but my main concern was
> the Ju combination. Since you told me it's
> pronounced with a Y sound, I will avoid looking
> silly by using a J sound.
>
>
>
> P.S. Steve, how did the Juni/Juli pronunciation go?
>
>

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hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys ben
running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to get the
experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning character!
My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would get his
face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at those
stats.
-----Original Message-----
From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know

>Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
>see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
>putting every background and skill on here would take
>to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
>someday.
>
>A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
>everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
>for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
>Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
>1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
>can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
>world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
>somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
>truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
>mentals but no one ever said just because you are
>smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
>Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
>Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
>because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
>actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
>when he became a world warrior he started over total =
>42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
>and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
>both shock and his opponent in this case fell
>unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
>9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
>wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
>thank you very much chris.
>
>Charcter: Grand Master Shock
>Style: Westren Kickboxing
>Team: Incinerators
>Player: Chad Phillips
>School: Zaire School
>Concept: Soldier
>Chronicle: N/A
>Stable: N/A
>Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
>turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
>
>Strength: OOOOOO
>Dexterity: OOOOOO
>Stamina: OOOOOO
>Charisma: OOO
>Manipulation: OO
>Apperance: OO
>Perception: OO
>Intelligence: OOOOO
>Wits: OOOO
>
>Punch: OOOOOO
>Kick: OOOOOO
>Block: OOOOOO
>Grab: OOOOO
>Athletics: OOOOO
>Focus: OOOOOO
>Gun: OOOOOO
>
>Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
>Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
>
>Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
>Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
>Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
>
>Wins: 110
>Loss: 1
>Draw: 2
>KO: 112
>
>Super Bar: 3
>
>I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
>I think he knows about 250.
>
>Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!
>
>If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
>pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
>a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
>him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
>"Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
>still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
>no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
>surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
>super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
>Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
>part of the group. He works for Learson
>Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
>to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
>plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
>version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
>are school(still under construction). He is grand
>master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
>manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
>crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
>storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
>said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
>30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
>fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
>Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
>can't find him.
>
>Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
>fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
>in the reply please.
>
>--- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:
>> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
>> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
>> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
>> should have shredded him.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>> To: streetfighter@...
>> <streetfighter@...>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
>> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
>> thanks.
>>
>> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
>> that
>> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
>> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
>> of
>> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
>> look
>> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
>> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
>> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
>> he's
>> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
>> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
>> anything. He has beaten:
>> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
>> story),
>> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
>> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
>> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
>> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
>> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
>> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
>> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
>> whole
>> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
>> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
>> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
>> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
>> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
>> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
>> friends
>> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
>> than
>> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
>> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
>> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
>> repeatedly
>> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
>> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
>> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
>> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
>> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
>> which
>> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
>> made
>> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
>> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
>> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
>> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
>> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
>> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
>> evil
>> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
>> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
>> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
>> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
>>
>> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
>> from
>> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
>> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
>> destuctive?
>>
>> Thanks, Chad Phillips
>>
>> =====
>>
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I got to agree here. My jaw dropped when I saw the stats of that character.
The amount of experience needed to get a character that high is HUGE!!!!.
How on earth did you do it? Wow, Im still in a state of shock. (no pun
intended)

MikeM

Mike Morgado
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(519) 383-3642
PC/ITS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Scott Pittman [SMTP:joespitt@...]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:11 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>
> hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys ben
> running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to get
> the
> experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning
> character!
> My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would get
> his
> face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at those
> stats.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>
>
>

I'm not going to BEGIN to calculate the amount of experience needed to have
a character THAT powerful.....id does make me nostalgic <a bit> for the very
FIRST chronical we did. I was the GM, but I also had a chracter in the Team,
who happend to be team leader. It was not uncommon to be given on the order
of 25-25 POWER POINTS of experience at the end of the adventures <hey, I
wanted MY guy to upgraded> The mauraders hardly had enought fights to make
rank 2, but they would be good sparing partners for a few of the WW's....

Well, some people like to rule the world, no matter where it is..... If
someone want's to put GOD on the fighting circut, then, hey, it's his Game
^_~

> I got to agree here. My jaw dropped when I saw the stats of that

character.

> The amount of experience needed to get a character that high is HUGE!!!!.
> How on earth did you do it? Wow, Im still in a state of shock. (no pun
> intended)
>
> MikeM
>
> Mike Morgado
> mmorgado@...
> ext. 642
> (519) 383-3642
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: J. Scott Pittman [SMTP:joespitt@...]
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:11 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >
> > hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys ben
> > running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to get
> > the
> > experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning
> > character!
> > My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would get
> > his
> > face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at those
> > stats.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
> >
> >
> >
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Western Kickboxing? jeez! Technique alone he should have three strikes
against him. At least take Thai. - My Bias

About the attributes maneuvers and skills - Monty Haul much?

-- Chris B


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>From: "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...>
>To: "'streetfighter@egroups.com'" <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>Date: Fri, Oct 15, 1999, 8:23 AM
>

> I got to agree here. My jaw dropped when I saw the stats of that character.
> The amount of experience needed to get a character that high is HUGE!!!!.
> How on earth did you do it? Wow, Im still in a state of shock. (no pun
> intended)
>
> MikeM
>
> Mike Morgado
> mmorgado@...
> ext. 642
> (519) 383-3642
> PC/ITS
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Scott Pittman [SMTP:joespitt@...]
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:11 AM
>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>>
>> hahahahaha 250 moves? those abilities and attributes! Have you guys ben
>> running stret fighter for 100 years? Thats how long it would take to get
>> the
>> experience needed to make a character like that from a beginning
>> character!
>> My buddy and me have been playing for years and his character would get
>> his
>> face cracked open by a world warrior. Whew! I'm still laughing at those
>> stats.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:06 AM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>>
>>
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You didn't beat Ryu with these stats? What's the matter? Did you have a
cold?

-- Chris B


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>From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>Date: Fri, Oct 15, 1999, 3:17 AM
>

> Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
> see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
> putting every background and skill on here would take
> to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
> someday.
>
> A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
> everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
> for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
> Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
> 1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
> can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
> world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
> somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
> truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
> mentals but no one ever said just because you are
> smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
> Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
> Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
> because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
> actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
> when he became a world warrior he started over total =
> 42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
> and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
> both shock and his opponent in this case fell
> unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
> 9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
> wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
> thank you very much chris.
>
> Charcter: Grand Master Shock
> Style: Westren Kickboxing
> Team: Incinerators
> Player: Chad Phillips
> School: Zaire School
> Concept: Soldier
> Chronicle: N/A
> Stable: N/A
> Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
> turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
>
> Strength: OOOOOO
> Dexterity: OOOOOO
> Stamina: OOOOOO
> Charisma: OOO
> Manipulation: OO
> Apperance: OO
> Perception: OO
> Intelligence: OOOOO
> Wits: OOOO
>
> Punch: OOOOOO
> Kick: OOOOOO
> Block: OOOOOO
> Grab: OOOOO
> Athletics: OOOOO
> Focus: OOOOOO
> Gun: OOOOOO
>
> Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
> Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
>
> Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
> Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
> Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
>
> Wins: 110
> Loss: 1
> Draw: 2
> KO: 112
>
> Super Bar: 3
>
> I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
> I think he knows about 250.
>
> Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!
>
> If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
> pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
> a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
> him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
> "Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
> still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
> no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
> surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
> super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
> Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
> part of the group. He works for Learson
> Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
> to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
> plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
> version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
> are school(still under construction). He is grand
> master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
> manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
> crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
> storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
> said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
> 30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
> fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
> Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
> can't find him.
>
> Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
> fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
> in the reply please.
>
> --- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:
>> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
>> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
>> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
>> should have shredded him.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>> To: streetfighter@...
>> <streetfighter@...>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
>> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
>> thanks.
>>
>> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
>> that
>> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
>> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
>> of
>> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
>> look
>> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
>> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
>> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
>> he's
>> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
>> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
>> anything. He has beaten:
>> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
>> story),
>> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
>> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
>> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
>> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
>> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
>> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
>> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
>> whole
>> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
>> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
>> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
>> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
>> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
>> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
>> friends
>> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
>> than
>> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
>> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
>> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
>> repeatedly
>> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
>> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
>> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
>> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
>> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
>> which
>> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
>> made
>> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
>> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
>> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
>> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
>> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
>> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
>> evil
>> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
>> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
>> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
>> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
>>
>> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
>> from
>> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
>> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
>> destuctive?
>>
>> Thanks, Chad Phillips
>>
>> =====
>>
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I want to see the stats for the guy who beat you in that 1 loss
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:10 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know

>You didn't beat Ryu with these stats? What's the matter? Did you have a
>cold?
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
>>From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: You don't want to know
>>Date: Fri, Oct 15, 1999, 3:17 AM
>>
>
>> Okay well before i post these just rember you asked to
>> see them. I'm only gonnna bother to post the main stat
>> putting every background and skill on here would take
>> to long. The complete charcter will be on my website
>> someday.
>>
>> A few notes before you read it 1. He paid for
>> everything he has with ep's nothing was given to him
>> for free. 2. He a Physical Specialist the Highest any
>> Physical stat can go is 7, 1 for physical specialist,
>> 1 for being a world warrior, 5 being max human. 3. He
>> can go to 6 in every other stat 5 base 1 for being a
>> world warrior. 4. Yes he is dam ugly looks like
>> somebody ran him over a few dozen times with a mack
>> truck, a bulldozed, and a lawnmower. 5. Yes he high
>> mentals but no one ever said just because you are
>> smart you have to act smart. 6. He can go to 7 in
>> Punch, Kick, Block, and Gun, he can go to 6 in Grab,
>> Athletics, and Focus. 7. His glory and or go to 21
>> because after are third gaming sesson he hit max, and
>> actually it has a base 21 before whats listed because
>> when he became a world warrior he started over total =
>> 42. 8. One draw was to terry bogard who he later beat
>> and was one to ryu who he hopefully will never beat
>> both shock and his opponent in this case fell
>> unconcious simeltanously after three rounds of combat.
>> 9. Last note yes he has a super bar this is thanks
>> wholely to chirs's hoffmans alpha conversion page
>> thank you very much chris.
>>
>> Charcter: Grand Master Shock
>> Style: Westren Kickboxing
>> Team: Incinerators
>> Player: Chad Phillips
>> School: Zaire School
>> Concept: Soldier
>> Chronicle: N/A
>> Stable: N/A
>> Signature: Shouts "Fists of Death" and procceds to
>> turn his opponent into a little pile of goo.
>>
>> Strength: OOOOOO
>> Dexterity: OOOOOO
>> Stamina: OOOOOO
>> Charisma: OOO
>> Manipulation: OO
>> Apperance: OO
>> Perception: OO
>> Intelligence: OOOOO
>> Wits: OOOO
>>
>> Punch: OOOOOO
>> Kick: OOOOOO
>> Block: OOOOOO
>> Grab: OOOOO
>> Athletics: OOOOO
>> Focus: OOOOOO
>> Gun: OOOOOO
>>
>> Glory: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
>> Honor: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO O
>>
>> Chi: OOOOOOOOOO
>> Willpower: OOOOOOOOOO
>> Helath: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
>>
>> Wins: 110
>> Loss: 1
>> Draw: 2
>> KO: 112
>>
>> Super Bar: 3
>>
>> I am not going to list every frigging manuver here but
>> I think he knows about 250.
>>
>> Tell is anyone in the corner yet screaming MOMMY!!!!
>>
>> If you're still reading this at this point you enjoy
>> pain. Now for a little of Description of shock. He is
>> a 6'2" Black Man from Zaire not americe if you call
>> him american he will look at you and say "What?!!",
>> "Who are you?", "Did you want something?", "Are you
>> still here?!!". He rules Zaire with an Iron Fist and
>> no coneption of it or relaity. He sometimes achieves
>> surreality if were lucky. He leads an orinization of
>> super heros called Orision with people such as Guy,
>> Stryder, Chun Li, Vincet(from Final Fantasy VII) as
>> part of the group. He works for Learson
>> Investigation(sorry he just liked candice morgan way
>> to much not love just psychopathic respect). He owns a
>> plasma based weapon called the Life Penalty a smaller
>> version of Vincet's Death Penalty. He run's a matrial
>> are school(still under construction). He is grand
>> master of fighting i.e. he is finished all the
>> manuvers on the storyteller screen except psycho
>> crusher because he dosen't know ler drit and my
>> storyteller didn't want him to learn it so we just
>> said forget and went on. He has mastered yes mastered
>> 30 Martial arts and is still learning. He has never
>> fought Dee Jay out of sheer respect for him being the
>> Grand Master of Westren Kickboxing or Guile Shock just
>> can't find him.
>>
>> Anyway if anybody has any further questions, comments,
>> fears about shock just reply. Try not to curse to much
>> in the reply please.
>>
>> --- Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...> wrote:
>>> Good Lord. I have *got* to see this guy's stats.
>>> My only guess is that whoever was playing the
>>> opponents was playing them badly. Chun Li alone
>>> should have shredded him.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>> <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>>> To: streetfighter@...
>>> <streetfighter@...>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:26 AM
>>> Subject: [streetfighter] You don't want to know
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok well first of all could the person who runs the
>>> dogs of war website please post his web site adress
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> Second of all and most disturbing is the charcter
>>> that
>>> i Play he is a to be nice psychopath, moron, that
>>> somehow manages to actually accomplish a whole hell
>>> of
>>> alot. His name is shock if you bothered to at the
>>> look
>>> at the link I put up in the links room at all he is
>>> the one being refered to. Anyway basically he has
>>> beaten with ease and these are not rigged fights
>>> he's
>>> not a cyborg or a vampire or a werewolf he's regular
>>> human streetfighter and he does not have a seven in
>>> anything. He has beaten:
>>> Terry Bogard, Chun Li, Killed Bison Twice(long
>>> story),
>>> Killed apoclaypse(long story too although i'm sure
>>> many a person's done that he's too damn easy), had a
>>> hand in killing akuma, beat Ken Masters, E. Honda,
>>> Dhalism, Blanka, Sagat, Adon, Dan,
>>> Sakura(unfortunatley), had a hand in whacking shadow
>>> charlie and shadow lady, almost realase raging demon
>>> ryu(tied in world warrior tournament, Zangief, a
>>> whole
>>> den of black spiral dancers, other werewolves, a
>>> vampire, a moron teamate of his that thinks he's a
>>> pirate, his other temate that is a focus specialist
>>> with nearly identical stats as mine, Gen, Vega(that
>>> was a bloody fight), balroc(that fight sucked), beat
>>> and sent back to hell with the help of 4 other
>>> friends
>>> a one (i.e. an old one from d+d still lost worse
>>> than
>>> kuthlu, comparison bison was 10 power increase
>>> exponentialy from there down the numbers to a one),
>>> beat a elf similar in power to oberon, beat
>>> repeatedly
>>> the living shit out of the damn salior scouts and
>>> tuxedo mask, Fei Long, Cammy, T. Hawk, the sum of it
>>> all is that shock has died propably a conservative
>>> estimate of 50 times and he just keeps getting back
>>> up. This man is stupid when he first met the one
>>> which
>>> is supposed to be ultimate evil he looked at him
>>> made
>>> fun of him and then procedded to ask if he had any
>>> buffalo or chicken wings he is obssesed with eating
>>> them. He is stupid to say the least but the horrible
>>> thing is he's neutral about all of it. He has
>>> tendincies toward chaos, good, lawful and evil. For
>>> Example one time he burned millions of dollars in
>>> evil
>>> artifacts good act, another time his best friend and
>>> teemate decided to go kill the person that had been
>>> sleeping with the friends sister shock procedded to
>>> kill him and send to the demon world evil act.
>>>
>>> Anyway i digress my question is does anyone aside
>>> from
>>> me and my gamemaster find shock mind bogling and
>>> annoying/fireghtning/insanse/just down right
>>> destuctive?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chad Phillips
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
>>> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Stephen Hayes was the (first I think) American Ninja who brought popularity to Ninjitsu in the west. He has a Ninja school in California, I believe. He's popular for the books he wrote on techniques and mysteries of the Ninja.

Ninjitsu was a style born of an early form of Ju-Jitsu. In case you wondered as to the origins. It has since expanded in complexity borrowing techniques from many other styles. Ninjitsu gets most of it's strength from it's stealth training (Ninpo Taiijitsu), which is supposed to be the best in the world at fooling the human eye. Ninjitsu's philosophy is rather anti-establishment. The Ninja believe their purpose is to keep the establishment in line, by watching, and striking at times when it would do the most good for the people. They are responsible rebels hiding in society, if you will. (at least that is what I've read)
Most of their techniques in hand to hand seem to be quick strikes, rolling techniques (Ukemi), grapples and counter grapples. Very few kicks seem to be used. The Togakure-Ryu style even has elemental stances (Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, and Void) elemental Ninjas?...maybe. All of the techniques seem to be almost exclusively defensive, with emphasis on keeping an opponent off balance and under the complete control of the Ninja's actions. These techniques were designed to get away from opponents when cornered without a weapon. Modern Ninja tend to train in more diverse styles to supplement Ninjitsu.

Honour wise, The Samurai approach to combat was called Bushido; it evolved from a general set of guidelines for the gentleman warrior into a stylized and formal discipline. The Ninja, though ostensibly holding many of the same values as the original samurai (Ronin Samurai started Ninjitsu, go figure), they never developed the dogma of the Bushido code.
The Ninja's sometimes devious tactics were seen as cowardly and disgusting. From the Ninja point of view, however, guerrilla warfare versus a numerically superior force was just plain good sense. Being outnumbered, the Ninja developed unusual methods to survive.

I personally believe the Ninja is rather  Moral and Honourable in times when survival or a larger issue is not at stake. They are like water constantly changing to meet the demands of their environment. They are the ultimate survivors.

In other words,  Ninja Vs Chun Li  =  Honourable Gentleman Warrior.
                           Ninja Vs Bison  =  Sneaky Ninja Bastard

-- Chris B


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From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 1999, 8:21 PM

really?  what'd he do?  I've never heard of him until now.

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From: Chris Baker <cbaker@... <mailto:cbaker@...> >
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >; streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:46 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas

Thanks ! Stephen Hayes was really popular in the 80's
-- Chris B


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From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@... <mailto:skarsten@...> >
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
Date: Tue, Oct 12, 1999, 7:16 PM

The Ninja and Their Secret Fighting art by Stephen K. Hayes.

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From: Chris Baker <cbaker@... <mailto:cbaker@...> >
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >; streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>  <streetfighter@egroups.com <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com> >
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 1:23 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas

Is it Ninpo Living and thinking as a Warrior? by Jack Hoban? - Another good Ninja philosophy book.
If not, could you send me the title and author? I'd like to read it.

-- Chris B


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From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: moral ninjas
Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 10:21 PM

hey folks, just thought I'd toss in my two cents on ninjas and Honor again, seeing as how I'm currently reading a book written by a fellow who studied under one of the last masters of the Togakure-Ryu ninjitsu school in Japan.
 
The ninja's philosophy with regards to fighting is very different from the honor put forth on the circuit, and this book shows that in great detail.  Eventually I'm going to do a full writeup on the style for SF Central, but for now, just take my word on the fact that any ninja PC who doesn't "hold back" and alter his philosophies to fit the honorable methods of the circuit will indeed take honor penalties for his actions.  I can go into further detail if you wish, but that's the bottom line.

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