Actually, we have a very easy rule about that in my game: If the character
takes more aggravated damage than he has health boxes (e.g. if you have
fifteen health boxes but take sixteen aggravated damage), sorry, bud, ya
gots ta write up a new character. We did a vote, and everybody was happier
for it.

>From: "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: "'streetfighter@egroups.com'" <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:41:44 -0400
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>Killed? I have found it almost impossible to kill anyone in Streetfighter.
>How did the character die?
>
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> > From: Robert Pascuttini [SMTP:rpascuttini@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:23 PM
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> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
> >
> > Hey Chris.
> > Yah I know what you mean about that. I level it heavily into my players
> > about roleplaying as well. but they monsters get boring to play after a
> > while.
> > Actually the cyborg/hybrid in my group is trying to start a family.
> > Its his concept. And it was working pretty good till he got killed.
> >
> > >
> > >Hoo, boy, have we hit a sore spot for me! Yup, I've fiddled with them,
> > and
> > >all I can say is that cyborgs have to be the twinkiest things around.
>If
> > >the guy playing the 'borg doesn't play up the social restrictions and
>you
> > >penalize him for it (in-character and in-play, I mean) they suck. My
> > view,
> > >at any rate. Very touchy subject for most of the people in my game.
> > >Elementals work very well, in my opinion. Animal Hybrids CAN be done,
> > but
> > >then again there's still the social aspect of the game. Yup, I still
> > >believe that it's a "role-playing" game, and should be played with more
> > >than
> > >just combat, despite the name. Oh, yeah, for those of you out there
>with
> > >access to the Player's Handbook, what do you think of the Cartwheel
>Kick?
> > >
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> > >> Has anyone fiddled with the optional backgrounds of cybernetics,
>or
> > >>elementalism, or animal hybrid? If so, what did you do?
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(Sigh)If you hadnt pointed that out I wouldnt look stupid now.

Ok to not make this a one liner response....

You can also make a character who cant be affected by blind
such as a bat hybrid or a cyborg with mechanical eyes.
but this is up to the ST Andy.
If blind can effect a mechanical creation is up to you.
I cant remeber if blind has a range or not but throw in some soldiers with
machine guns...and make the machine guns do aggravated dmg.
That way you avoid him even using blind.

>From: SlpStck@...
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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:32:18 EDT
>
>In a message dated 09/24/1999 12:25:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rpascuttini@... writes:
>
><< Andy I got a solution for you and its easy man.(I know you were
>addressing
> this to steve but..)
> One word man......
>
> Blind Fighting.
> (Laugh) >>
>actually, that's two words...
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Ouch(Laugh)...Your the ST for your group arnt you SlpStck.

Im a little diffrent with my group ...
Now this may shock you other ST's but I openly accept comments from the
players and even corrections. Plus any new rulings I make I tell the players
ahead of time.But when I call a ruling and make it final, its final(This
happens rarely.)

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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:50:51 EDT
>
>In a message dated 09/24/1999 12:48:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>dlatrex@... writes:
>
><< however since the books say nothing
> about how to use it in a tourny they argue EVERYTIME I come up with a use
> for Blind Fight...
> any more advice? >>
>yes. let them argue a few, but when they start arguing every use, tell them
>you are GOD, the game operations director, and YOU, not THEM, decide how
>something is used. plus, if the gripe to much, don't let them use it
>either...
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Lack of superhuman speed? Im sorry I disagree.
Has any one ever used Rekka Ken...That is a Fast Move. +3 speed to any basic
manuever...Damn. A character with 5 dex and rekka ken can punch faster than
a werewolf in crinos form.

>From: AJSolis@...
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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Okay another topic
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:41:15 EDT
>
>In a message dated 9/23/99 8:14:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
>inrifrost@... writes:
>
> >
> > My two cents worth? I think that it could be done, but has anybody
>wondered
> >
> > about whether or not the SF characters would get the bejesus kicked out
>of
> > them by even the most basic Brujah or Ahroun? Not to be rude myself,
>but
> > I've been wondering about the same damn thing. Though I'm pretty sure
>it
> > could be done.
> >
> Well, the factors that make a power gap between street fighters and
>the
>supernaturals are: Healing times, except for that one focus maneuver all
>street fighters would heal damage quite slower than most supernaturals, and
>the lack of superhuman speed available to street fighters. Which is why
>street fighters would be a minor supernatural "race" in my opinion.
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I know that there is a Free RPG on the web called Mortal Conquest.
Its based on the Mortal Combat Story. If you need info for a conversion I
suggest you find that.

>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
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>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Tekken Conversion
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:46:01 -0400
>
>Speaking of Conversions, has anyone done any conversion from Mortal Kombat,
>or know of an online site for me to get some tips? It's been my project to
>convert at least the major characters from this series.
>
>Thx.
>
>--
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>make you a better person."
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> From: Ryan Zielonka
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 1:15 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Tekken Conversion
>
>
>I'm considering working out a full Tekken character conversion. This is my
>absolute favorite fighting game, and I commonly employ slight modifications
>of Tekken characters in my games. However, I want to do a FULL conversion.
>I've heard some people have already developed maneuvers straight out of
>Tekken, so that could definently be helpful. If anyone is willing to
>assist
>me in this little venture, please contact me at zdrax@.... All
>help would be greatly appreciated. Also, some general
>requests/requirements
>for people willing to help.
>
>* Some familiarity with Tekken
>* Microsoft Word (that's what the netbook is going to be in)
>* Atleast the Street Fighter main book
>* Willingness to have fun :)
>
>This could become an "add-on" to Warrior's Pride. Thanks for any willing
>to
>step up.
>
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Yah its not that hard actually.
The way I did it, Steve or one of the books(cant remeber) did it the same
way. If you are fighting in the dark simply increase the persons difficulty
to hit. Its simple that way.

>From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
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>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:36:55 -0400
>
>Unfourtunately they don't give a lot of guide lines on how to use Blind
>fighting......ESPECIALY in combat situations.
>Up till now, the team had mainly been fighting Jobbers that could's spell
>"blind fighting"
>But now that they are in the more advanced ranks <4> they have encounted
>people that have Blinde fighting....however since the books say nothing
>about how to use it in a tourny they argue EVERYTIME I come up with a use
>for Blind Fight...
>any more advice?
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Hrmmm.. Kinddaaa. Th only useful content is what I mentioned before.
I think there were a few neat characters but.....
The even go back on what they say for rulings on some of the
characters....That weapon and nonweapon moves cannot be combo'd
together.

>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:47:47 -0400
>
>I don't have a problem with Contenders.
>Having not been in a campaign for over 2 years (no one to play with:-( )
>It's getting a little dusty on my shelf, but the content of the book is
>quite good.
>However most of the NPCs I've seen on pages online are far more creative.
>
>--
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>make you a better person."
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Pascuttini
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:42 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
>
>
>Actually on the subject of contenders
>with the exception of the extra styles and few moves and weapon rules they
>put into contenders....I think it was a waste of ink.
>
>Actually thers quite a few of them. I think I read 50 warriors somewhere.
>As
>for the characters.. Sorry man my time is limited right now. I gotta finish
>something first and if no ones done it then..then Ill put some of the info.
>
> >Since I am the proud owner of not Contenders, this has aroused my
> >curiosity.
> >Could someone out of the goodness of their heart list all the
> >fighters/teams
> >from Contenders? Just the names, and maybe a three word decription...?
>How
> >many are there in total?
> >
> >And BTW. Why not work all those NPC:s into the Warrior's Pride project?
> >(Because I want them naturally, but I'm pretty sure there are others than
> >me
> >who own not Contenders.)
> >
> > Kristofer
> >
> >P.S. IF you're wondering about the differance of "not owning Contenders"
> >and
> >"owning not Contenders"... don't bother :|
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Actually...Its more brutal than something I would have done, but I think its
the right thing.
As far as vega would be concerned the Shotokaner is a nobody.
But would vega kill a nobody for no reason?

>From: "Andy" <dlatrex@...>
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>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:18:15 -0400
>
>Recently I had to kill of a PC! It was a rank one Newbie Ninja, that
>decided
>to try and save the clan from pilferer's at night, rather that wake the
>other warriors. He got attacked by 6 rival ninja's and attianed death. I
>don't know how others treat death but I have it said that if a character
>goes beyone his heathl in Ag damage (I.E. Health 10, taking 21 damage
>total)
>will cause death. It might have been in one of the books but i don't
>remeber. I also had a situation in my most recent chronical <the one with
>the Kabaddist Blinder.> where the same Player (Not chracter) had his
>ShotoKan, try and square off against a very pissed Vega near the end of the
>Tourist Trap.
>He was about 3 feet away, and he told his only commerad (that was behind
>vega, and he couldn't see) to run away. Vega Knocked him out with a 9 speed
>Fierce punch. I had to have a brain storming session of how i could keep
>his
>character alive, while not defacing Vega. IN the end one of the other
>characters caused enough of a Distraction elsewhere, that I said it got to
>Vega and inturruped his Butchery. The Karate guy was reduced to all except
>1
>hp of Agg left, and had his appearance reduced to 1. I also Striped him of
>all his Exp. points. Hehhehee...anyone have any Idea's how he (I) could
>have
>negated the Vega Factor?
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Yah. that sounds pretty reasonable.
Maybe thats were I saw it. In one of the Wod books.
Whoat WoD book talks about Blind Fighting.
Im pretty sure an SF book made mention of it as well....
Thats right.. The perfect warrior module make use of blind fighting
in it.

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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:58:24 EDT
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> Well, in the rest of the WW games blind fighting lowers the penalty from
>fighting blind thusly: Each level of blind fighting reduces the difficulty
>by
>one, down to a maximum of the normal difficulty. If you decide that
>hitting
>someone while blind would normally by difficulty ten, then someone with
>blindfighting four or above wouldn't even notice the difference.
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Me to 10 aggravated and you bite it. Which is why firearms are vicious. As
for the unconciousness Yah but if the character wakes up and a fight(grand
mellee here) is going on the dont het any health back. (15 min remember?)
actually has any one here done the time matchs where the person with the
most health wins? how do you do that with multiple rounds?
It means the characters would have to fight..person with the most health
wins 1st round. They rest 15 min and go at it again????
Is that right?

>From: "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: "'streetfighter@egroups.com'" <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:54:50 -0400
>
>That is how I treat death as well. If they go above their health in
>aggravated damage they die. The only thing with that is if a character has
>10 health, once hes taken 10 points of damage, he is knocked out. At that
>point most of my villains leave to help their buddies. The unconscious
>character is out of the fight and is no longer a factor so why keep beating
>an unconscious person? I have yet to see someone, knock someone out and
>still do enough damage to kill them. Death in my SF games are very rare.
>They only happen if someone decides to start a fight like was mentioned
>earlier. A thin walkway over molten lava.
>
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> > From: Andy [SMTP:dlatrex@...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:18 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
> >
> > Recently I had to kill of a PC! It was a rank one Newbie Ninja, that
> > decided
> > to try and save the clan from pilferer's at night, rather that wake the
> > other warriors. He got attacked by 6 rival ninja's and attianed death. I
> > don't know how others treat death but I have it said that if a character
> > goes beyone his heathl in Ag damage (I.E. Health 10, taking 21 damage
> > total)
> > will cause death. It might have been in one of the books but i don't
> > remeber. I also had a situation in my most recent chronical <the one
>with
> > the Kabaddist Blinder.> where the same Player (Not chracter) had his
> > ShotoKan, try and square off against a very pissed Vega near the end of
> > the
> > Tourist Trap.
> > He was about 3 feet away, and he told his only commerad (that was behind
> > vega, and he couldn't see) to run away. Vega Knocked him out with a 9
> > speed
> > Fierce punch. I had to have a brain storming session of how i could keep
> > his
> > character alive, while not defacing Vega. IN the end one of the other
> > characters caused enough of a Distraction elsewhere, that I said it got
>to
> > Vega and inturruped his Butchery. The Karate guy was reduced to all
>except
> > 1
> > hp of Agg left, and had his appearance reduced to 1. I also Striped him
> > of
> > all his Exp. points. Hehhehee...anyone have any Idea's how he (I) could
> > have
> > negated the Vega Factor?
> > =)
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Actually steve. I think Kabbadists are allowed to take it as well.
For a higher price of course.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
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>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:09:15 -0400
>
>why'd you let him take Blind in the first place? the only place he could
>learn it is from the Order of Perpetual Darkness on Mriganka.
>
>I'll have to think about this one...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy <dlatrex@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:27 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>
>
> This one goes out mainly to steven, since you've helped me out a
>number of times before, but any ideas will be apprceiated.
> I'm a GM (ST) and have a small group going in a long held
>chronicel, but I have problems with one of the Characters: My Brother's. He
>came up with a Kabaddist that started weak ( 2/3/4 Phs.) but had Extendible
>limbs and Blind. he fights along side a Shotokaner, that's not got anything
>to Groundbreaking about him. however it's becoming really annyoning to have
>him Blind EVERYONE since it only cost's one chi, and has no honor or
>anything side effects. He's got a 9 wits+mis roll, so he allways blinds the
>guy for 5-6 turns, and since he is fighting team fights, it immediatly
>becomes 2-on one.
> Any advice, on how i can rain <but not halt> his parade?
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(Laugh)
Yah thats kinda what happened in my campaign.
THe thing was it was a cyborg /hybrid that died at the hands of another NpC.
Everyone backed off.
When one of those monsters bites it ...God help us all.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:18:26 -0400
>
>it *was* a major thing, and the ninja was an NPC. he got beheaded to
>inspire panic.
>
>it worked. ;)
>
>basically, the battle took place by flashlight, a screaming howl was heard,
>one of the flashlights dropped, and a severed head appeared in the beam.
>Talk about a mad scramble to exit stage left.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 11:55 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
>
>
>Ergh...You know I have to admit I rarely kill people in my campaigns.
>And when I do I try to make it a major thing.
>Ive only had one PC die and one NPC.
>
>
> >From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
> >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:16:09 -0400
> >
> >Ravana has actually made a few appearances in my campaign. Scared the
>piss
> >outta people when they discovered just what was so damn important about
> >that mace. ;)
> >
> >Was even funnier when the players met a group of Spanish Ninja attempting
> >to steal it after hours in a museum and Ravanna opened a can o' whoopass
>on
> >both parties. One of the ninjas lost his head (literally).
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 1:55 AM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
> >
> >
> >Hi.
> >Yah I saw that alien dragon. Hes actually a surprisingly interesting
> >character. I wouldnt mind fitting him into one of my campaigns.
> >And shang is an interesting character(The other dragon). I think thats
>his
> >name.
> >I liked Ravanna. What a monster. But I found out that his is actually
> >a character from the India religons. He is a demon of some sort
>supposedly.
> >
> >
> > >From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Bygone Beastiary
> > >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >---AJSolis@... wrote:
> > >
> > >In a message dated 9/17/99 2:33:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > >conkle@...
> > >writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I just picked up the "Bygone Bestiary" from White Wolf. In addition
> >to
> > >a
> > > > large portion of the book having stats for all kinds of magical and
> > >mythical
> > > > monsters, it includes a section for making custom monster player
> > >characters.
> > > > Although it's for WoD, it can be easily adapted to Street Fighter.
> > > Well, there is a dragon street fighter in contenders.
> > >
> > >[[[Two actually, if you count the alien dragonn from another dimension.
> > >(I swear it's not as dumb as it sounds.)]]]
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The only thing that bugs me about San He is that a grapppler is able to take
them down. It doesnt make sense.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:33:00 -0700
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>San He is another way
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 7:54 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>
>
>Top ten ways to deal with Cartwheel Kick;
>
>1 step to the side and Jab.
>2 step to the side and Elbow Smash.
>3 step to the side and Heel Stamp.
>4 missile attacks from a non-straight-lined path to the Cartwheel-Kicker.
>5 Esquives.
>6 Displacement.
>7 Jump.
>8 Maka Wara.
>9 arenas on platforms or using "ringout" rules.
>10 walls.
>
>who wants more? ;)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christian Conkle <conkle@...>
>To: Street Fighter <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:44 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
>
>
>Once I figured out "Abort to Jump" whenever someone started a Cartwheel
>Kick, they basically became useless. All you have to do is jump one hex to
>get out of their line-of-fire. Otherwise, yes, CK's are very very bad.
>
>----------------
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>conkle@...
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> >From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
> >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:20:50 -0400
> >
> >I think the Cartwheel Kick, while not as balanced as most maneuvers, is
>not
>the destroyer-move-o-death everyone makes it out to be. Just read the
>description and enforce the "can't move back one hex, can't roll damage"
>aspect of the maneuver and everything's fine. not to mention that if you
>rule that you can't abort out of it (movement while attacking means
>maneuver
>is in effect, therefore no aborts) and once you move, the Willpower is gone
>(performance of maneuver equals cost taken), it's really quite taxing.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Chris Krug-Iron <inrifrost@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:26 PM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
> >
> >
> >Hoo, boy, have we hit a sore spot for me! Yup, I've fiddled with them,
>and
>
> >all I can say is that cyborgs have to be the twinkiest things around. If
> >the guy playing the 'borg doesn't play up the social restrictions and you
> >penalize him for it (in-character and in-play, I mean) they suck. My
>view,
>
> >at any rate. Very touchy subject for most of the people in my game.
> >Elementals work very well, in my opinion. Animal Hybrids CAN be done,
>but
> >then again there's still the social aspect of the game. Yup, I still
> >believe that it's a "role-playing" game, and should be played with more
>than
> >just combat, despite the name. Oh, yeah, for those of you out there with
> >access to the Player's Handbook, what do you think of the Cartwheel Kick?
> >
> >
> >>From: AJSolis@...
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> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds
> >>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:02:16 EDT
> >>
> >> Has anyone fiddled with the optional backgrounds of cybernetics, or
> >>elementalism, or animal hybrid? If so, what did you do?
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Its in the secrets of shadoloo book.
Its not under the section with new moves.
Look deeper into the book by a section with some monks.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:43:12 -0700
>
>Have some people attack your bro who have high Blindfighting skills, or let
>them challenge him to a fight with no magical powers, so if he does use it
>it becomes dishonorable. Have the lights go out and so everyone's blind!
>By the way, where is this Blind power youre talking about? I cant seem to
>find it in my books.
>-----Original Message-----
> From: Andy <dlatrex@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:28 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>
>
> This one goes out mainly to steven, since you've helped me out a
>number of times before, but any ideas will be apprceiated.
> I'm a GM (ST) and have a small group going in a long held
>chronicel, but I have problems with one of the Characters: My Brother's. He
>came up with a Kabaddist that started weak ( 2/3/4 Phs.) but had Extendible
>limbs and Blind. he fights along side a Shotokaner, that's not got anything
>to Groundbreaking about him. however it's becoming really annyoning to have
>him Blind EVERYONE since it only cost's one chi, and has no honor or
>anything side effects. He's got a 9 wits+mis roll, so he allways blinds the
>guy for 5-6 turns, and since he is fighting team fights, it immediatly
>becomes 2-on one.
> Any advice, on how i can rain <but not halt> his parade?
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Ok cool ahhh give me a bit of time. Its almost done.
Ihad to take so much out of it though.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Styles
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:06:00 -0700
>
>actualy, the New Styles section is the only section going slow. if you will
>send me your text documents, i would love to view them... I might even use
>them! Of course, I'll add your name and e-mail and give you full credit.
>I'm
>trying to make the best page ever and asking everyone to help. Send me
>them!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:06 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter
>
>
> >Hey have you finished up your info on the new styles.
> >I've been writing a SF text file and alot of the styles I'm putting into
>it
> >are on your page. I was hoping to get your take on them.
> >
> >
> >>From: joespitt@...
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: streetfighter@...
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter
> >>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:26:13 -0700
> >>
> >>First of all, about the Vampires being more powerful, that's not
> >>neccessarily so, do you knw how many maneuvers use fire as part of the
> >>attack? That's aggravated damage. I use my own watered-down versions of
> >>vampires anyway, you can find the Vampire Background for Street Fighter
> >>on my page:
> >>
> >>http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
> >>
> >>They aren't as detailed, but if you want detailed vampires, I say play
> >>vampire.
> >>They are still extermely powerful creatures even in my version, however.
> >>
> >>Second, the Cartwheel Kick is powerful, there is no doubt, but not game
> >>unbalancing. I've had a couple of player's use the maneuver and still
> >>get their tails kicked all over the place, even using the normal rules.
> >>Besides, if the players want to abuse the power, so will the bad
> >>guys....
> >>
> >>My page also includes new Maneuvers, Backgrounds such as the mentioned
> >>Vampire, Angel/Demon, Dragon, and others. There are also New Styles, a
> >>Making New Maneuvers chart, Animal Companion Rules, animal statistics
> >>and more. There's even a complete maneuvers list A-Z with each move
> >>described and detailed from all five books, not just a list of the
> >>maneuvers. Take a look at it. I had some complaints about the loading
> >>of the first page, so tonight I lessened the graphics to help the speed
> >>of the page, which was pretty dang slow. If anyone has some good ideas
> >>to use, I'll add em and give full credit to you on the page.
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>>
>>why'd you let him take Blind in the first place? the only place he could
>>learn it is from the Order of Perpetual Darkness on Mriganka.

>Actually steve. I think Kabbadists are allowed to take it as well.
>For a higher price of course.
>

It seems like Steve has interpreted the context of Blind something like:
"can't be found anywhere except on Mriganka". I can't say I agree but it
should still be a damn rare move, wouldn't you say?

Blind does not cause the loss of Honor. But using a move which the opponent
has a vulnerability to does (in succession only, I know). I have stretched
this general principle a bit further; if a character pulls off a stunt which
I have a core feeling is a bit seedy, he is warned. And those on the list
with an impeccable memory can tell you that when I say "warning", a
temporary point of Honor has already been lost.

From a rule-lawyering point of view, that system is a bit uncertain on the
poor players, never really knowing what to expect. But on the plus side,
they can never, ever hide behind the rules. The only real problem is when
the player's/s' morals differ from mine.

Kristofer

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>The only thing that bugs me about San He is that a grapppler is able to
>take
>them down. It doesnt make sense.

I agree fully. What I have done is:

* San He adds full Block * 2 to Soak, _even_ against Grabs.

* San He negates _all_ forms of Knockdowns and Knockbacks, _even_ against
Grabs.

Those small alterations satisfied my need for coherency.

Kristofer

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>Me to 10 aggravated and you bite it. Which is why firearms are vicious. As
>for the unconciousness Yah but if the character wakes up and a fight(grand
>mellee here) is going on the dont het any health back. (15 min remember?)
>actually has any one here done the time matchs where the person with the
>most health wins? how do you do that with multiple rounds?
>It means the characters would have to fight..person with the most health
>wins 1st round. They rest 15 min and go at it again????
>Is that right?

I have read it like that, yes. In essence several fights in a row with heal
time in between. That way Aggravated gets nasty. One could include some sort
of Honor loss for an excessive knockout, or a gain for precise and
deliberate "no Aggravated" finish (choose _one_, I don't think they work
well together). But maybe that's a bit too over-detailed.

Kristofer

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found it and added it my page. Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 2:53 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)

>Its in the secrets of shadoloo book.
>Its not under the section with new moves.
>Look deeper into the book by a section with some monks.
>
>
>>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:43:12 -0700
>>
>>Have some people attack your bro who have high Blindfighting skills, or

let

>>them challenge him to a fight with no magical powers, so if he does use it
>>it becomes dishonorable. Have the lights go out and so everyone's blind!
>>By the way, where is this Blind power youre talking about? I cant seem to
>>find it in my books.
>>-----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy <dlatrex@...>
>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:28 PM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] STUPID PC's!!!!! =)
>>
>>
>> This one goes out mainly to steven, since you've helped me out a
>>number of times before, but any ideas will be apprceiated.
>> I'm a GM (ST) and have a small group going in a long held
>>chronicel, but I have problems with one of the Characters: My Brother's.

He

>>came up with a Kabaddist that started weak ( 2/3/4 Phs.) but had

Extendible

>>limbs and Blind. he fights along side a Shotokaner, that's not got

anything

>>to Groundbreaking about him. however it's becoming really annyoning to

have

>>him Blind EVERYONE since it only cost's one chi, and has no honor or
>>anything side effects. He's got a 9 wits+mis roll, so he allways blinds

the

>>guy for 5-6 turns, and since he is fighting team fights, it immediatly
>>becomes 2-on one.
>> Any advice, on how i can rain <but not halt> his parade?
>>
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The way I play it in my campaigns is that if characters enter a tournament
where weapons are involved, the ruling by most tournament officals is that
if there is to be more than one round and serious injury (agg damage) is
caused to either fighter, the fighters arrange a later date when both are
ready to fight again, in the interst of fairness. Then we game-skip time
ahead when both are up to par again. It makes sense and works. However, many
tournaments that allow duelists limit the tourament bouts to one round if
there is no ranking method.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kristofer Lundström <kri5tofer@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:54 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: the optional backgrounds

>>Me to 10 aggravated and you bite it. Which is why firearms are vicious. As
>>for the unconciousness Yah but if the character wakes up and a fight(grand
>>mellee here) is going on the dont het any health back. (15 min remember?)
>>actually has any one here done the time matchs where the person with the
>>most health wins? how do you do that with multiple rounds?
>>It means the characters would have to fight..person with the most health
>>wins 1st round. They rest 15 min and go at it again????
>>Is that right?
>
>I have read it like that, yes. In essence several fights in a row with heal
>time in between. That way Aggravated gets nasty. One could include some

sort

>of Honor loss for an excessive knockout, or a gain for precise and
>deliberate "no Aggravated" finish (choose _one_, I don't think they work
>well together). But maybe that's a bit too over-detailed.
>
> Kristofer
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By the way everyone, I finalized the name of my page as "Streetfighter: The
Dogs of War". I added weapon techniques and the Swordfighting Style today.
there is a character with a sketch by me on it also.
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From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 2:27 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Tekken Conversion

>I know that there is a Free RPG on the web called Mortal Conquest.
>Its based on the Mortal Combat Story. If you need info for a conversion I
>suggest you find that.
>
>
>>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Tekken Conversion
>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:46:01 -0400
>>
>>Speaking of Conversions, has anyone done any conversion from Mortal

Kombat,

>>or know of an online site for me to get some tips? It's been my project to
>>convert at least the major characters from this series.
>>
>>Thx.
>>
>>--
>>Fred Chagnon
>>fchagnon@...
>>"Only in RPGs does fighting
>>make you a better person."
>>- Peter Olafson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Zielonka
>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 1:15 AM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Tekken Conversion
>>
>>
>>I'm considering working out a full Tekken character conversion. This is

my

>>absolute favorite fighting game, and I commonly employ slight

modifications

>>of Tekken characters in my games. However, I want to do a FULL

conversion.

>>I've heard some people have already developed maneuvers straight out of
>>Tekken, so that could definently be helpful. If anyone is willing to
>>assist
>>me in this little venture, please contact me at zdrax@.... All
>>help would be greatly appreciated. Also, some general
>>requests/requirements
>>for people willing to help.
>>
>>* Some familiarity with Tekken
>>* Microsoft Word (that's what the netbook is going to be in)
>>* Atleast the Street Fighter main book
>>* Willingness to have fun :)
>>
>>This could become an "add-on" to Warrior's Pride. Thanks for any willing
>>to
>>step up.
>>
>>- Ryan
>>
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