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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15627	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15628	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15629	From: MikeM	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15630	From: Gene Strand	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15631	From: JJ	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15632	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Muay Thai vs. Capoeira

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15633	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15634	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15635	From: Claude Smith	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15636	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15637	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15638	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15639	From: Staredown	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15640	From: Staredown	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15641	From: MikeM	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Muay Thai vs. Capoeira

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15642	From: MikeM	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15643	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15644	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15645	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15646	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Cardless

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15647	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15648	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15649	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Favoritism

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15650	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15651	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15652	From: jyurkiw	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15653	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15654	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15655	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Taunting

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15656	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Taunting

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15657	From: Staredown	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15658	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Rolento

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15659	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15660	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15661	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15662	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Boxers

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15663	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15664	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Dudley write-up?

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15665	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15666	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15667	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15668	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Where to purchase StreetFighter Storytelling Game

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15669	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15670	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15671	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15672	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15673	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15674	From: morgjak	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15675	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/26/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15676	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/26/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15627	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Attributes

Everyone, thank you for answering my questions.
Here's another one, and maybe a little easier (at least to answer):

What is considered average for attributes? (Avg. for a normal human being)
What is the maximum that a person can have in an attribute?

Most White Wolf games, if I recall correctly, have a maximum of 5 - but I
noticed Street Fighter has up to 8 dots.

Last question, and this is kind of trivial: who of the established
characters has the highest Strength? Zangief?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15628	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Gunkata

Okay, I have the books now! :)
No more novice questions.

What I haven't found is rules on creating your own style. Maybe I just
haven't looked hard enough.
The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is Gunkata, from the movie,
Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I haven't read up on how
guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to be a deadly one (maybe
use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of this art is that they use
the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use magazines as slip hazards
(also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the Rock), and they are
great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by statistical knowledge of gun
fights and how to position themselves to lower the percentage that they will
be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets and sidestepping them).

This said, how would this martial art be made up?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15629	From: MikeM	Date: 1/19/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Technically there are no official rules for making up your own style.
At least I don't recall there being any official rules.

MikeM

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata

Okay, I have the books now! :)
No more novice questions.

What I haven't found is rules on creating your own style. Maybe I just
haven't looked hard enough.
The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is Gunkata, from the movie,
Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I haven't read up on how
guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to be a deadly one (maybe
use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of this art is that they use
the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use magazines as slip hazards
(also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the Rock), and they are
great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by statistical knowledge of gun
fights and how to position themselves to lower the percentage that they will
be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets and sidestepping them).

This said, how would this martial art be made up?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15630	From: Gene Strand	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Well mike try the dogs of war home page and download C.H.A.M.P.S.T%hat has been the best rules I;ve seen so far for making your own arts that are balanced
http://www.dragonslayergames.com/streetfighter/index.htm
Good luck.
MikeM <m.morgado@...> wrote:
Technically there are no official rules for making up your own style.
At least I don't recall there being any official rules.

MikeM

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata

Okay, I have the books now! :)
No more novice questions.

What I haven't found is rules on creating your own style. Maybe I just
haven't looked hard enough.
The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is Gunkata, from the movie,
Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I haven't read up on how
guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to be a deadly one (maybe
use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of this art is that they use
the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use magazines as slip hazards
(also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the Rock), and they are
great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by statistical knowledge of gun
fights and how to position themselves to lower the percentage that they will
be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets and sidestepping them).

This said, how would this martial art be made up?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15631	From: JJ	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Fairchild" <nfairchild@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Attributes

> Everyone, thank you for answering my questions.
> Here's another one, and maybe a little easier (at least to answer):
>
> What is considered average for attributes? (Avg. for a normal human being)

Average is 2.

> What is the maximum that a person can have in an attribute?

8, for SF

>
> Most White Wolf games, if I recall correctly, have a maximum of 5 - but I
> noticed Street Fighter has up to 8 dots.

Vampires are wusses... unless their names are Dimitri or Morigan.

>
> Last question, and this is kind of trivial: who of the established
> characters has the highest Strength? Zangief?
>

He does hit the magic 8.

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15632	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Muay Thai vs. Capoeira

Damn.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8514518157668120764
(download button is on the right).

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Fred Chagnon
fchagnon@...

"In theory, theory is the same as in practice, but not in practice."

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15633	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

If Strength 5 says that you can bench 650 lbs. - what is Strength 8 like?
In other words, are there descriptions for the above-5 attributes?

Is it stated any where that 8 is the cap? Can you not go to 9 or above, or
has just no known character done it?

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of JJ
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:29 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Attributes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Fairchild" <nfairchild@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Attributes

> Everyone, thank you for answering my questions.
> Here's another one, and maybe a little easier (at least to answer):
>
> What is considered average for attributes? (Avg. for a normal human being)

Average is 2.

> What is the maximum that a person can have in an attribute?

8, for SF

>
> Most White Wolf games, if I recall correctly, have a maximum of 5 - but I
> noticed Street Fighter has up to 8 dots.

Vampires are wusses... unless their names are Dimitri or Morigan.

>
> Last question, and this is kind of trivial: who of the established
> characters has the highest Strength? Zangief?
>

He does hit the magic 8.

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15634	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

I think I'm missing the section you're talking about.
I searched the site, but you also made it sound like its in the Downloads
section.

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gene Strand
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:24 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Gunkata

Well mike try the dogs of war home page and download C.H.A.M.P.S.T%hat
has been the best rules I;ve seen so far for making your own arts that are
balanced
http://www.dragonslayergames.com/streetfighter/index.htm
Good luck.
MikeM <m.morgado@...> wrote:
Technically there are no official rules for making up your own style.
At least I don't recall there being any official rules.

MikeM

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata

Okay, I have the books now! :)
No more novice questions.

What I haven't found is rules on creating your own style. Maybe I just
haven't looked hard enough.
The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is Gunkata, from the movie,
Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I haven't read up on how
guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to be a deadly one (maybe
use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of this art is that they use
the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use magazines as slip hazards
(also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the Rock), and they are
great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by statistical knowledge of gun
fights and how to position themselves to lower the percentage that they will
be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets and sidestepping them).

This said, how would this martial art be made up?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15635	From: Claude Smith	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

> Vampires are wusses... unless their names are Dimitri or
> Morrigan.
>

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15636	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

The link to the CHAMPS system is
http://www.dragonslayergames.com/CHAMPS.pdf

CHAMPS is a universal method of creating balanced maneuvers. I
personally don't use it since there are a lot of maneuvers in the game
that CHAMPS changes to make them balanced - I happen to like the
imbalance between maneuvers. To each their own.

As far as Gunkata would go, you'd have a bit of a hurdle. Guns in
Street Fighter are inherently weak. See the Main Rulebook (p142-143)
for info, but basically a gun damage is GUN dmg mod + GUN technique.
You could say that the gun's dmg mod replaces STRENGTH, but otherwise
works like a normal maneuver. The reason why this is weak is because
a pistol's dmg mod is +3, meaning that most Street Fighters are
stronger than a pistol. Add to that the fact that (as yet) there are
no maneuvers for firearms, you have a Pistol Shot doing GUN technique
+3 for damage (8, with a GUN tech of 5) vs say a Fierce Punch doing a
potential of 13 (STRENGTH 5 + PUNCH 5 + 3 maneuver dmg mod).

For comparison, a rocket launcher does 12 damage.

You'd need to create a nice selection of up-close gun-only maneuvers
to really give the style a fighting chance. And probably need to
alter or at least examine the rule that using a Firearm permanently
lowers your Honor (see table p56). Of course, someone without Honor
gets less Chi back between fights, but Gunkata doesn't seem like a
style with a requirement for a lot of Chi.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> I think I'm missing the section you're talking about.
> I searched the site, but you also made it sound like its in the

Downloads

> section.

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15637	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

Nothing can go over 8 (see Superhuman Traits, p65, Main Rulebook).

Cyborgs can raise their attributes to 8 much easier than other
characters (see Cyborgs, p24, Players Guide), but 8 is still the
maximum.

I failed at Googling WoD superhuman attribute benchmarks. You might
have more luck.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> If Strength 5 says that you can bench 650 lbs. - what is Strength 8

like?

> In other words, are there descriptions for the above-5 attributes?
>
> Is it stated any where that 8 is the cap? Can you not go to 9 or

above, or

> has just no known character done it?

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15638	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

I think I've seen stats for vampires on-line, but are there any for succubi?

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From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Claude Smith
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:40 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Attributes

> Vampires are wusses... unless their names are Dimitri or
> Morrigan.
>

Morrigan is a succubus, not a vampire. She's still an
energy-sucker, but she doesn't go after blood.

C. Smith

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15639	From: Staredown	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

--- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> If Strength 5 says that you can bench 650 lbs. - what is Strength 8 like?
> In other words, are there descriptions for the above-5 attributes?
>
> Is it stated any where that 8 is the cap? Can you not go to 9 or above, or
> has just no known character done it?

I make it so that if you have superhuman attributes, you can do superhuman
things (i.e. things that you normally would not get a roll for).

Example: At strength six, you've got a shot at lifting that one-ton pillar. At
strength eight, I'd let you try uprooting that millennia old Red Wood with your
bare hands. At grab 7 I let you keep hold of people in ghostform. Etc.

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15640	From: Staredown	Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

--- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I think I've seen stats for vampires on-line, but are there any for succubi?

I don't think there's any stats for generic succubi, but I know that there is a
specific succubi write up in Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand.

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15641	From: MikeM	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Muay Thai vs. Capoeira

That was awesome.
Hope that movie gets released here in North America.

MikeM

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Subject: [streetfighter] Muay Thai vs. Capoeira

Damn.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8514518157668120764
(download button is on the right).

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15642	From: MikeM	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Capcom World Tournament

Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
Tournament is supposed to come out?
Isn't it something like over a year late?

I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide if I
want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the old White
Wolf version.

MikeM

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15643	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

Although it is not an official book, CHAMPS has rules
for making up your own styles.

- J. Scott Pittman

--- MikeM <m.morgado@...> wrote:

> Technically there are no official rules for making
> up your own style.
> At least I don't recall there being any official
> rules.
>
> MikeM
>
> _____
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> On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata
>
>
> Okay, I have the books now! :)
> No more novice questions.
>
> What I haven't found is rules on creating your own
> style. Maybe I just
> haven't looked hard enough.
> The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is
> Gunkata, from the movie,
> Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I
> haven't read up on how
> guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to
> be a deadly one (maybe
> use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of
> this art is that they use
> the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use
> magazines as slip hazards
> (also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the
> Rock), and they are
> great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by
> statistical knowledge of gun
> fights and how to position themselves to lower the
> percentage that they will
> be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets
> and sidestepping them).
>
> This said, how would this martial art be made up?
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15644	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/22/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

CHAMPS became such a large project that I made it into
it's own site -
http://www.dragonslayergames.com/champs/

Thanks for the interest,
J. Scott Pittman

p.s. - didn't someonw say they were going to make a
CHAMPS computer program for the Maneuvers?

--- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I think I'm missing the section you're talking
> about.
> I searched the site, but you also made it sound like
> its in the Downloads
> section.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Strand
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:24 AM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Gunkata
>
>
> Well mike try the dogs of war home page and
> download C.H.A.M.P.S.T%hat
> has been the best rules I;ve seen so far for making
> your own arts that are
> balanced
>

http://www.dragonslayergames.com/streetfighter/index.htm

> Good luck.
> MikeM <m.morgado@...> wrote:
> Technically there are no official rules for making
> up your own style.
> At least I don't recall there being any official
> rules.
>
> MikeM
>
> _____
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> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata
>
>
> Okay, I have the books now! :)
> No more novice questions.
>
> What I haven't found is rules on creating your own
> style. Maybe I just
> haven't looked hard enough.
> The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is
> Gunkata, from the movie,
> Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I
> haven't read up on how
> guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to
> be a deadly one (maybe
> use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of
> this art is that they use
> the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use
> magazines as slip hazards
> (also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the
> Rock), and they are
> great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by
> statistical knowledge of gun
> fights and how to position themselves to lower the
> percentage that they will
> be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets
> and sidestepping them).
>
> This said, how would this martial art be made up?
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15645	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

http://forums.lrgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=821

For what it's worth... I think August was the date they tentatively
set.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "MikeM" <m.morgado@s...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
> Tournament is supposed to come out?
> Isn't it something like over a year late?
>
> I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide
if I
> want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the
old White
> Wolf version.
>
> MikeM
>
>
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>

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15646	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Cardless

I was going through the book last night and I noticed an option to play
without cards. Instead, you just say what move you're doing - add your
attribute + technique like normal and proceed.

Has anyone played this way?
How do you determine who goes first? Without knowing this, couldn't Player 2
always just play a higher Speed move to attack first?

Second question, unrelated: couldn't you end a combo with a block so that
your opponent can't do his move (unless its a grab)?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15647	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Gunkata

I've only got to skim it - but from what I've seen of CHAMPS, it looks
great!
Even with the CHAMPS rules, though, I knew Gunkata might be pushing the
boundries for Street Fighter - with the guns and everything.

-----Original Message-----
From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of J. Scott Pittman
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:11 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Gunkata

CHAMPS became such a large project that I made it into
it's own site -
http://www.dragonslayergames.com/champs/

Thanks for the interest,
J. Scott Pittman

p.s. - didn't someonw say they were going to make a
CHAMPS computer program for the Maneuvers?

--- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I think I'm missing the section you're talking
> about.
> I searched the site, but you also made it sound like
> its in the Downloads
> section.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Strand
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:24 AM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Gunkata
>
>
> Well mike try the dogs of war home page and
> download C.H.A.M.P.S.T%hat
> has been the best rules I;ve seen so far for making
> your own arts that are
> balanced
>

http://www.dragonslayergames.com/streetfighter/index.htm

> Good luck.
> MikeM <m.morgado@...> wrote:
> Technically there are no official rules for making
> up your own style.
> At least I don't recall there being any official
> rules.
>
> MikeM
>
> _____
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> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Nathan Fairchild
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:37 PM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Gunkata
>
>
> Okay, I have the books now! :)
> No more novice questions.
>
> What I haven't found is rules on creating your own
> style. Maybe I just
> haven't looked hard enough.
> The martial art that I'm thinking of creating is
> Gunkata, from the movie,
> Equilibrium. It is a martial art that uses guns. I
> haven't read up on how
> guns work in the game, but I don't want this art to
> be a deadly one (maybe
> use bullet-sized beanbag shots?). Side benefits of
> this art is that they use
> the guns as blunt weapons when up-close, can use
> magazines as slip hazards
> (also see the barroom scene in The Rundown with the
> Rock), and they are
> great an dodging attacks, including bullets (by
> statistical knowledge of gun
> fights and how to position themselves to lower the
> percentage that they will
> be hit - not through necessarily seeing the bullets
> and sidestepping them).
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15648	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

I never played with cards. Liked the idea, but it's cumbersome.
Instead, we just used to just chart out the Speed, Damage and Move ratings
of our characters and play from those charts.

I think the Files section of the yahoogroup page still has Matt's javascript
used to generate this in a snap....unless you like crunching numers by hand.

Can I just mention how nice it is that some gameplay talk has made it's way
back into this list!

Fred

On 1/23/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:
>
> I was going through the book last night and I noticed an option to play
> without cards. Instead, you just say what move you're doing - add your
> attribute + technique like normal and proceed.
>
> Has anyone played this way?
> How do you determine who goes first? Without knowing this, couldn't Player
> 2
> always just play a higher Speed move to attack first?
>
> Second question, unrelated: couldn't you end a combo with a block so that
> your opponent can't do his move (unless its a grab)?
>
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15649	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Favoritism

What are any of your favorite martial arts or combos?

Are there any martial arts or combos that are well known to be better than
others? Factually, not in opinion.
(A mechanically superior martial art or combo isn't necessarily your
favorite)

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15650	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

I hate to then ask, but if 5 dots is the considered "peak human",
what is it that characters like Zangief (Strength), Vega (Dexterity &
Athletics), and others do to go beyond the boundries of human
potential?

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Staredown <staredown@r...>
wrote:

>
> --- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
>
> > If Strength 5 says that you can bench 650 lbs. - what is Strength

8 like?

> > In other words, are there descriptions for the above-5 attributes?
> >
> > Is it stated any where that 8 is the cap? Can you not go to 9 or

above, or

> > has just no known character done it?
>
> I make it so that if you have superhuman attributes, you can do

superhuman

> things (i.e. things that you normally would not get a roll for).
>
> Example: At strength six, you've got a shot at lifting that one-ton

pillar. At

> strength eight, I'd let you try uprooting that millennia old Red

Wood with your

> bare hands. At grab 7 I let you keep hold of people in ghostform.

Etc.

>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15651	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

I recall starting a combo with a block being popular amongst the speed
demons. Perhaps this was because you get a +2 for the next maneuver in the
combo on top of the +2 you'd get off the block.

Chaining double hit maneuvers together with in a Dizzy combo could pretty
much guarantee a dizzy in the end.

i.e. Double-Hit-Kick, Flaming Dragon Punch (dizzy)

Fred

On 1/23/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:
>
> What are any of your favorite martial arts or combos?
>
> Are there any martial arts or combos that are well known to be better than
> others? Factually, not in opinion.
> (A mechanically superior martial art or combo isn't necessarily your
> favorite)
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15652	From: jyurkiw	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Sure...August...two years ago...

Jeff

Jonathan Combs wrote:

> http://forums.lrgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=821
>
> For what it's worth... I think August was the date they tentatively
> set.
>
> --- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "MikeM" <m.morgado@s...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
> > Tournament is supposed to come out?
> > Isn't it something like over a year late?
> >
> > I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide
> if I
> > want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the
> old White
> > Wolf version.
> >
> > MikeM
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15653	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/23/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Thursday or Friday of last week I had checked their site again, as I thought
the same thing - "It should be out by NOW".
The site hasn't been updated in a while and all their products are "TBA".

They have a spot to contact them, so I did, asking when they expect to have
an official release.
I still haven't gotten a response.

I'll let you all know if I do.

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On Behalf Of MikeM
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:26 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Capcom World Tournament

Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
Tournament is supposed to come out?
Isn't it something like over a year late?

I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide if I
want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the old White
Wolf version.

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15654	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

My understanding is that they have some pretty heavy staffing
shortages (Joe Chan recently dropped some duties due to real life
stuff, but still responds on the website when he can), so all of
their responses are slow; CWT suffers from the fact that it's
relatively new, it's dealing with an established license out of
Japan, and really, let's face it- there aren't nearly as many of us
as there are for, say, Earthdawn.

They're in talks with Capcom for finalization, but lord knows how
that will go after all is said and done.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> Thursday or Friday of last week I had checked their site again, as

I thought

> the same thing - "It should be out by NOW".
> The site hasn't been updated in a while and all their products

are "TBA".

>
> They have a spot to contact them, so I did, asking when they expect

to have

> an official release.
> I still haven't gotten a response.
>
> I'll let you all know if I do.
>
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>
> Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
> Tournament is supposed to come out?
> Isn't it something like over a year late?
>
> I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide

if I

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15655	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Taunting

Are there rules for taunting in the game? I'm sure you can do them no matter
what, but is there a mechanical benefit to doing so or is it just done for
roleplaying flavor?

And finally, as a video game question, how the heck is Ryu adjusting his
gloves or his headband considered a taunt?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15656	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Taunting

Don't have the books on me here at the office of course but I'm pretty sure
that wasting a turn to taunt or to do something crowd pleasing such as flex,
or make some signature hand motion that means "Here comes the Hurrican
Kick!" should be rewarded with a point in Glory.

Likewise, striking a taunting opponent should be rewarded with a point in
glory.

The speed / move ratings can just be used from the ratings for "Move".

Hope this helps.

On 1/24/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:
>
> Are there rules for taunting in the game? I'm sure you can do them no
> matter
> what, but is there a mechanical benefit to doing so or is it just done for
> roleplaying flavor?
>
> And finally, as a video game question, how the heck is Ryu adjusting his
> gloves or his headband considered a taunt?
>
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15657	From: Staredown	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

--- "trakx.geo" <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I hate to then ask, but if 5 dots is the considered "peak human",
> what is it that characters like Zangief (Strength), Vega (Dexterity &
> Athletics), and others do to go beyond the boundries of human
> potential?

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15658	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Rolento

Does anyone have a write-up on Rolento (from Street Fighter Alpha 3,
originating from Final Fight)?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15659	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

Well, the thing is, I've been playing a system that uses cards
instead of dice for a while (Marvel Super Hero Adventure Game;
MSHAG). I'm working on converting SF: TSG to it. I'll use two sets of
cards if I have to, but I would prefer not to. It looks too difficult
not to, though.

So, I'm really looking for any tips on how to pull off a system of
not using combat cards.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Fred Chagnon <fchagnon@g...>
wrote:

>
> I never played with cards. Liked the idea, but it's cumbersome.
> Instead, we just used to just chart out the Speed, Damage and Move

ratings

> of our characters and play from those charts.
>
> I think the Files section of the yahoogroup page still has Matt's

javascript

> used to generate this in a snap....unless you like crunching numers

by hand.

>
> Can I just mention how nice it is that some gameplay talk has made

it's way

> back into this list!
>
> Fred
>
> On 1/23/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
> >
> > I was going through the book last night and I noticed an option

to play

> > without cards. Instead, you just say what move you're doing - add

your

> > attribute + technique like normal and proceed.
> >
> > Has anyone played this way?
> > How do you determine who goes first? Without knowing this,

couldn't Player

> > 2
> > always just play a higher Speed move to attack first?
> >
> > Second question, unrelated: couldn't you end a combo with a block

so that

> > your opponent can't do his move (unless its a grab)?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>
>
> --
> Fred Chagnon
> fchagnon@g...
>
> "In theory, theory is the same as in practice, but not in practice."
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15660	From: Fred Chagnon	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

You're dealing with two different metrics here.

On one hand you have cards, which measure speed/move/damage ratings. On
another you have successes which are based on the roll of a d10.

Even if you go with cards to replace the d10, they're not gonna be replaced
with combat cards. Furthermore I can't imagine picking a card for a random
number between 1-10 is faster than rolling a die.

Fred C.

On 1/24/06, trakx.geo <nfairchild@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the thing is, I've been playing a system that uses cards
> instead of dice for a while (Marvel Super Hero Adventure Game;
> MSHAG). I'm working on converting SF: TSG to it. I'll use two sets of
> cards if I have to, but I would prefer not to. It looks too difficult
> not to, though.
>
> So, I'm really looking for any tips on how to pull off a system of
> not using combat cards.
>
> --- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Fred Chagnon <fchagnon@g...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I never played with cards. Liked the idea, but it's cumbersome.
> > Instead, we just used to just chart out the Speed, Damage and Move
> ratings
> > of our characters and play from those charts.
> >
> > I think the Files section of the yahoogroup page still has Matt's
> javascript
> > used to generate this in a snap....unless you like crunching numers
> by hand.
> >
> > Can I just mention how nice it is that some gameplay talk has made
> it's way
> > back into this list!
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > On 1/23/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was going through the book last night and I noticed an option
> to play
> > > without cards. Instead, you just say what move you're doing - add
> your
> > > attribute + technique like normal and proceed.
> > >
> > > Has anyone played this way?
> > > How do you determine who goes first? Without knowing this,
> couldn't Player
> > > 2
> > > always just play a higher Speed move to attack first?
> > >
> > > Second question, unrelated: couldn't you end a combo with a block
> so that
> > > your opponent can't do his move (unless its a grab)?
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > fchagnon@g...
> >
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15661	From: trakx.geo	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Cardless

In MSHAG, you hold a number of cards in your hand. For simplicity
sake, I'll say that the number of cards is based on your Character
Level or Experience.

These cards have four suits, which are Strength, Agility, Intellect,
and Willpower. Each has their own color.

If you play a card of the color of the action you're trying to
accomplish, you trump and get to draw a card of the top of the deck.
If it also matches, you draw again.

For example, if you were Zangief trying to uproot an ancient redwood
tree, it would be a Strength action. You can play any card from your
hand and add that score to your Strength for a total. If you play a
Strength card from your hand, you add it, plus a card from the top of
the deck. Continue to draw until you don't draw a Strength trump (you
rarely draw more than two, if you're even that lucky).

To use this system with Street Fighter, or any White Wolf game, would
obviously take some changes to the difficulties needed to accomplish
things, combat included.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Fred Chagnon <fchagnon@g...>
wrote:

>
> You're dealing with two different metrics here.
>
> On one hand you have cards, which measure speed/move/damage

ratings. On

> another you have successes which are based on the roll of a d10.
>
> Even if you go with cards to replace the d10, they're not gonna be

replaced

> with combat cards. Furthermore I can't imagine picking a card for a

random

> number between 1-10 is faster than rolling a die.
>
> Fred C.
>
> On 1/24/06, trakx.geo <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, the thing is, I've been playing a system that uses cards
> > instead of dice for a while (Marvel Super Hero Adventure Game;
> > MSHAG). I'm working on converting SF: TSG to it. I'll use two

sets of

> > cards if I have to, but I would prefer not to. It looks too

difficult

> > not to, though.
> >
> > So, I'm really looking for any tips on how to pull off a system of
> > not using combat cards.
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Fred Chagnon <fchagnon@g...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I never played with cards. Liked the idea, but it's cumbersome.
> > > Instead, we just used to just chart out the Speed, Damage and

Move

> > ratings
> > > of our characters and play from those charts.
> > >
> > > I think the Files section of the yahoogroup page still has

Matt's

> > javascript
> > > used to generate this in a snap....unless you like crunching

numers

> > by hand.
> > >
> > > Can I just mention how nice it is that some gameplay talk has

made

> > it's way
> > > back into this list!
> > >
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > On 1/23/06, Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was going through the book last night and I noticed an

option

> > to play
> > > > without cards. Instead, you just say what move you're doing -

add

> > your
> > > > attribute + technique like normal and proceed.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone played this way?
> > > > How do you determine who goes first? Without knowing this,
> > couldn't Player
> > > > 2
> > > > always just play a higher Speed move to attack first?
> > > >
> > > > Second question, unrelated: couldn't you end a combo with a

block

> > so that
> > > > your opponent can't do his move (unless its a grab)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fred Chagnon
> > > fchagnon@g...
> > >
> > > "In theory, theory is the same as in practice, but not in

practice."

> > >
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15662	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Boxers

As I'm still new to the game, and while I'm familiar with the rules, I
haven't even yet played it, I was wondering how effective boxers are. Does
anyone play them? Do they hold their own well enough? What are the pros or
cons, mechanically, to playing them?

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15663	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Somehow, through my understanding, Capcom Japan sold the rights to Capcom
America.

-----Original Message-----
From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Combs
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:07 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Capcom World Tournament

My understanding is that they have some pretty heavy staffing
shortages (Joe Chan recently dropped some duties due to real life
stuff, but still responds on the website when he can), so all of
their responses are slow; CWT suffers from the fact that it's
relatively new, it's dealing with an established license out of
Japan, and really, let's face it- there aren't nearly as many of us
as there are for, say, Earthdawn.

They're in talks with Capcom for finalization, but lord knows how
that will go after all is said and done.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> Thursday or Friday of last week I had checked their site again, as

I thought

> the same thing - "It should be out by NOW".
> The site hasn't been updated in a while and all their products

are "TBA".

>
> They have a spot to contact them, so I did, asking when they expect

to have

> an official release.
> I still haven't gotten a response.
>
> I'll let you all know if I do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]

> On Behalf Of MikeM
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:26 AM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Capcom World Tournament
>
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
> Tournament is supposed to come out?
> Isn't it something like over a year late?
>
> I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't decide

if I

> want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the

old White

> Wolf version.
>
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15664	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/24/2006
Subject: Dudley write-up?

Speaking of boxers, has anyone done stats up on Dudley from Street Fighter
III?
Is he classified as a boxer? From the video game, he had similarities to a
boxer, but his speed and combos make me think he might be a boxer-offshoot,
or maybe even a new style.

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15665	From: Jonathan Combs	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Capcom World Tournament

Really? I'll have to check in that thread; part of the hold up seems
to be their conference call with Capcom (not so much disagreements,
just logistics of getting things in place) to iron things out.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> Somehow, through my understanding, Capcom Japan sold the rights to

Capcom

> America.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]

> On Behalf Of Jonathan Combs
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:07 AM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Capcom World Tournament
>
>
> My understanding is that they have some pretty heavy staffing
> shortages (Joe Chan recently dropped some duties due to real life
> stuff, but still responds on the website when he can), so all of
> their responses are slow; CWT suffers from the fact that it's
> relatively new, it's dealing with an established license out of
> Japan, and really, let's face it- there aren't nearly as many of us
> as there are for, say, Earthdawn.
>
> They're in talks with Capcom for finalization, but lord knows how
> that will go after all is said and done.
>
> --- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
> <nfairchild@l...> wrote:
> >
> > Thursday or Friday of last week I had checked their site again,

> I thought
> > the same thing - "It should be out by NOW".
> > The site hasn't been updated in a while and all their products
> are "TBA".
> >
> > They have a spot to contact them, so I did, asking when they

expect

> to have
> > an official release.
> > I still haven't gotten a response.
> >
> > I'll let you all know if I do.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of MikeM
> > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:26 AM
> > To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Capcom World Tournament
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to when Living Room Game's Capcom World
> > Tournament is supposed to come out?
> > Isn't it something like over a year late?
> >
> > I'm getting the urge to run a Street Fighter game, and can't

decide

> if I
> > want to just wait for the new version to come out or just use the
> old White
> > Wolf version.
> >
> > MikeM
> >
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15666	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

I'm sorry to keep arguing this, but it's being made too easy to be
considered "peak human" (in game, role-playing wise). I can't imagine
anything natural, no matter the training, to push oneself PAST peak human.
The best this would do is to REACH peak human.

I'm sure I'm alone in this line of thinking, so I'll just sit down.

-----Original Message-----
From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Staredown
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:40 AM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Attributes

--- "trakx.geo" <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I hate to then ask, but if 5 dots is the considered "peak human",
> what is it that characters like Zangief (Strength), Vega (Dexterity &
> Athletics), and others do to go beyond the boundries of human
> potential?

Spend more experience points.

Seriously though, remember Ryu's ending from Turbo (I think) where he's
doing
those jab dragon punches under a water fall. My theory is that those wern't
jab dragon punches, they were fierces that were being held down by the
water.
He would train until he got his normal results for a fierce and therefor
earn
himself superhuman punch technique

Every World Warriors is superhuman in something (techniques, if not
attributes). That's part of what separates them from the wanabes (that and
that they rarely have less than a four in a fighting relavant stat, multiple
combos, high-end-often-self-invented maneuvers, and the fact that they all
qualify for rank nine or ten.).

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15667	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

emule (the peer to peer network) is no longer in service for free, it
went legit unfortunately
Russell

Claude Smith wrote:

>
> E-mule is a p2p network where people share files with each
> other. You'll need an emule client, which is free and
> available here:
> http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/general.cgi?l=1 .
> That's where I got a lot of OOP rpg books. I plan to buy
> new versions if they're ever reprinted.
>
> Claude Smith

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15668	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Where to purchase StreetFighter Storytelling Game

Would a .pdf format considered a "document" format on imesh?
Russell

Kong Xian Mu wrote:

> The p2p networks are carrying pdf versions of all the Street Fighter
> books.
>
>
> --- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Jesse" <foreverx88@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I've been looking everywhere, to no avail, anybody have any
> > recomendations for a decently priced version.
> > And honestly I'd rather use the White Wolf version then the
> LivingRoom
> > game's d20 version from what I've seen so far.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15669	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

Shareaza (http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/) is still free, and
connects to be Gnutella and eMule networks.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Russell <xena400@g...> wrote:
>
> emule (the peer to peer network) is no longer in service for free,
it
> went legit unfortunately
> Russell
>
> Claude Smith wrote:
>
> >
> > E-mule is a p2p network where people share files with each
> > other. You'll need an emule client, which is free and
> > available here:
> > http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/general.cgi?l=1 .
> > That's where I got a lot of OOP rpg books. I plan to buy
> > new versions if they're ever reprinted.
> >
> > Claude Smith
>

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15670	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

JEET KUNE DO
One of the best overall styles in a very long-running game, you can
use the style to acquire such lovely comboes as...

Move to Tiger Knee to Hyperfist (dizzy)
Scissor Kick to Scissor Kick (dizzy)
-or- Move to Scissor Kick to Scissor Kick (dizzy)
Block to Hyperfist (dizzy)
Block to Scissor Kick (dizzy)

You could sub in Drunken Monkey Roll for any Move.

ANY STYLE WITH EASY ACCESS TO IMPROVED PIN OR WITH POWERFUL GRAB
MANEUVERS
Because Improved Pin is so cheap, you can really abuse the heck out
of it. Based on the Main Rulebook, p140, if you slap someone in a
Sustained Hold and successfully hold them, your opponent loses their
next action whether or not you sustain the maneuver. That means
you...

Block to Improved Pin
-followed by-
Hair Throw to Stomach Pump (dizzy)
[just make sure to throw them into an adjacent hex]

The Block to Improved Pin combo is powerful, since Imp Pin (with a
decent Athletics) can cover a massive distance and then execute a
Sustained Hold at +4 Speed (effective), meaning an equal-DEX
opponent can't Jump out of it or away. Assuming your opponent is
Held successfully, the next round you Hair Throw for a ton of
damage, Knock your opponent down (giving them a -2 Speed penalty for
the Knockdown, p140) and then Stomach Pump them while they're
suffering that -2 Speed penalty: meaning that again, you have a 4pt
Speed advantage on your opponent and they can't Jump or Move away
from the Grab unless they have Grappling Defense (which almost no
one does).

Any style that gets Improved Pin can do this. For Kung Fu, you can
replace the Hair Throw to Stomach Pump with Dragon Kick to Improved
Pin. Pankration uses Thunderstrike instead of Hair Throw. If you
can get a suitably-experienced Sanbo stylist you can Block to
Improved Pin, followed by Siberian Suplex to Turbo Spinning
Clothesline (dizzy).

As far as 'best styles' go, its more a matter of opinion than fact.
Most styles have something about them that makes them a force.
Whats easier to pick out are the styles that have nothing great
going for them:

Aikido
Baraqah
Capoeira
Savate
Sumo Wrestling
Tai Chi Ch'uan

Hope that was entertaining enough.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> What are any of your favorite martial arts or combos?
>
> Are there any martial arts or combos that are well known to be

better than

> others? Factually, not in opinion.

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15671	From: Kong Xian Mu	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

Boxers are good in the early game and then get pretty weak. Every
opponent that knows your style and has Punch Defense basically makes
every punch maneuver you attempt pathetically weak.

If you're going to play a Boxer, get Brain Cracker early in order to
give you some tactical flexibility, and look at branching out into the
more powerful 'Any' Focus maneuvers after you get Hyperfist and
whatever else suits your playstyle.

Specifically, I'm thinking of Acid Breath (for the wonderful Acid
Breath to Acid Breath (dizzy) combo, or Acid Breath to Brain Cracker
(dizzy), etc).

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> As I'm still new to the game, and while I'm familiar with the rules,

> haven't even yet played it, I was wondering how effective boxers

are. Does

> anyone play them? Do they hold their own well enough? What are the

pros or

> cons, mechanically, to playing them?

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15672	From: Russell	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: 20 Questions

Oh yeah, I forgot about shareaza. I'm using Imesh right now as we speak.
I like it because it has a built in ftp and url download transfer
programs. In other words if you have a big mpg file on the internet, but
you don't want to worry about stopping the download and then starting
from the beginning, all you have to do is put it on the imesh download
manager and it downloads it for you and saves it for later use too.
Although I have to use all the versions before imesh 6 because imesh 6
went legit anything under that is free, even with all its quirks before
imesh 6, but i don't care
Russell

Kong Xian Mu wrote:

>Shareaza (http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/) is still free, and
>connects to be Gnutella and eMule networks.
>
>
>--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, Russell <xena400@g...> wrote:
>
>
>>emule (the peer to peer network) is no longer in service for free,
>>
>>
>it
>
>
>>went legit unfortunately
>>Russell
>>
>>Claude Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>E-mule is a p2p network where people share files with each
>>>other. You'll need an emule client, which is free and
>>>available here:
>>>http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/general.cgi?l=1 .
>>>That's where I got a lot of OOP rpg books. I plan to buy
>>>new versions if they're ever reprinted.
>>>
>>>Claude Smith
>>>

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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15673	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Favoritism

For an inexperienced Street Fighter game master and player, that helped a
lot - thanks!
I thought there would be more great styles than bad, so thanks for the
little list of styles that "have nothing going for them". I was looking at
Savate, too, as I was thinking about a character built around kicks.

-----Original Message-----
From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kong Xian Mu
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:16 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Favoritism

JEET KUNE DO
One of the best overall styles in a very long-running game, you can
use the style to acquire such lovely comboes as...

Move to Tiger Knee to Hyperfist (dizzy)
Scissor Kick to Scissor Kick (dizzy)
-or- Move to Scissor Kick to Scissor Kick (dizzy)
Block to Hyperfist (dizzy)
Block to Scissor Kick (dizzy)

You could sub in Drunken Monkey Roll for any Move.

ANY STYLE WITH EASY ACCESS TO IMPROVED PIN OR WITH POWERFUL GRAB
MANEUVERS
Because Improved Pin is so cheap, you can really abuse the heck out
of it. Based on the Main Rulebook, p140, if you slap someone in a
Sustained Hold and successfully hold them, your opponent loses their
next action whether or not you sustain the maneuver. That means
you...

Block to Improved Pin
-followed by-
Hair Throw to Stomach Pump (dizzy)
[just make sure to throw them into an adjacent hex]

The Block to Improved Pin combo is powerful, since Imp Pin (with a
decent Athletics) can cover a massive distance and then execute a
Sustained Hold at +4 Speed (effective), meaning an equal-DEX
opponent can't Jump out of it or away. Assuming your opponent is
Held successfully, the next round you Hair Throw for a ton of
damage, Knock your opponent down (giving them a -2 Speed penalty for
the Knockdown, p140) and then Stomach Pump them while they're
suffering that -2 Speed penalty: meaning that again, you have a 4pt
Speed advantage on your opponent and they can't Jump or Move away
from the Grab unless they have Grappling Defense (which almost no
one does).

Any style that gets Improved Pin can do this. For Kung Fu, you can
replace the Hair Throw to Stomach Pump with Dragon Kick to Improved
Pin. Pankration uses Thunderstrike instead of Hair Throw. If you
can get a suitably-experienced Sanbo stylist you can Block to
Improved Pin, followed by Siberian Suplex to Turbo Spinning
Clothesline (dizzy).

As far as 'best styles' go, its more a matter of opinion than fact.
Most styles have something about them that makes them a force.
Whats easier to pick out are the styles that have nothing great
going for them:

Aikido
Baraqah
Capoeira
Savate
Sumo Wrestling
Tai Chi Ch'uan

Hope that was entertaining enough.

--- In streetfighter@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Fairchild"
<nfairchild@l...> wrote:

>
> What are any of your favorite martial arts or combos?
>
> Are there any martial arts or combos that are well known to be

better than

> others? Factually, not in opinion.

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15674	From: morgjak	Date: 1/25/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

> As I'm still new to the game, and while I'm familiar with the rules, I
> haven't even yet played it, I was wondering how effective boxers

are. Does

> anyone play them? Do they hold their own well enough? What are the

pros or

> cons, mechanically, to playing them?

Group: streetfighter	Message: 15675	From: J. Scott Pittman	Date: 1/26/2006
Subject: Re: Attributes

I'm with you on that. But I think Street Fighters are
superhuman. That's why they can do the things they do,
like punch with fire coming off of it or sometimes
have tails and wings...
I think Street Fighters are humans that have the
superhuman ability to channel thier Chi power, like
the comic book mutants that have the ability to tap
into psychic powers we all possess. This gives them
the ability, with training, to surpass anything that
humans are capable of.

- Scott

--- Nathan Fairchild <nfairchild@...> wrote:

> I'm sorry to keep arguing this, but it's being made
> too easy to be
> considered "peak human" (in game, role-playing
> wise). I can't imagine
> anything natural, no matter the training, to push
> oneself PAST peak human.
> The best this would do is to REACH peak human.
>
> I'm sure I'm alone in this line of thinking, so I'll
> just sit down.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Staredown
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:40 AM
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Attributes
>
>
> --- "trakx.geo" <nfairchild@...> wrote:
>
> > I hate to then ask, but if 5 dots is the
> considered "peak human",
> > what is it that characters like Zangief
> (Strength), Vega (Dexterity &
> > Athletics), and others do to go beyond the
> boundries of human
> > potential?
>
> Spend more experience points.
>
> Seriously though, remember Ryu's ending from Turbo
> (I think) where he's
> doing
> those jab dragon punches under a water fall. My
> theory is that those wern't
> jab dragon punches, they were fierces that were
> being held down by the
> water.
> He would train until he got his normal results for a
> fierce and therefor
> earn
> himself superhuman punch technique
>
> Every World Warriors is superhuman in something
> (techniques, if not
> attributes). That's part of what separates them
> from the wanabes (that and
> that they rarely have less than a four in a fighting
> relavant stat, multiple
> combos, high-end-often-self-invented maneuvers, and
> the fact that they all
> qualify for rank nine or ten.).
>
>
>
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>
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> to many disaster and much destruction of urban area.
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Group: streetfighter	Message: 15676	From: Nathan Fairchild	Date: 1/26/2006
Subject: Re: Boxers

Actually, the boxer that I had in mind I was going to name Mickey, just for
that reason. ;)
Mechanically, though, there's no way to make a boxer a one-hit wonder. Not
just this game, but any game. If there were, then clearly the game lacks
balance.
...still, that was the concept I was going for on him.

I knew he lacked kicks and focus, but I wasn't sure just how much that might
hurt him.

-----Original Message-----
From: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com [mailto:streetfighter@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of morgjak
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:27 PM
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Boxers

> As I'm still new to the game, and while I'm familiar with the rules, I
> haven't even yet played it, I was wondering how effective boxers

are. Does

> anyone play them? Do they hold their own well enough? What are the

pros or

> cons, mechanically, to playing them?

Well the pros and cons of playing a Boxer are kind of the same thing,
Boxers are very specialized fighters. They just Punch plain and simple.

The Pros; Beginning characters can advance there Punch technique to
higher levels since they don't have to worry about raising their Kick
technique. The maneuvers available to Boxers are also very hard
hitting and effective, especially when you consider their better than
average Punch technique.

The Cons; You don't have access to any special Kick Maneuvers. Also
you're opponents will know this and try to use that to their
advantage. Boxing is also not a spiritual powerhouse, it is all about
hitting hard and fast with physical attacks, so your Focus technique
and maneuvers will likely be quite lacking.

Making a Boxer is similar to making any other highly specialized
fighter whether it's Punches, Kicks, Grapples, or Focus. You simply
won't be a well rounded fighter but if you play to that strong suit
and cover you're bases with some solid basic maneuvers of different
techniques you can still be very effective.

Also as for Dudley I'm not sure if there are any write ups of him but
he is most definitely a Boxer. Not every Boxer has to be made in the
Balrog/M. Bison/Mike Tyson Hit them once very hard mold. Take a look
at real Middle and Welterweight boxers even Muhammad Ali those guys
are damned fast and throw amazing technical combos. For another take
on a Boxer check out Mickey from Snatch, harder then a coffin nail,
fast and able to floor most big guys with one well placed punch.

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