>Hows about a special maneuver: Super Pose! (no prerequisites, 2 Willpower)?
>
>Gives you...
>
>...Ta Da! +2 Glory!
>
>Jeff
>
>"Must be as Dan-like as possible!"

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Dennis Bryant wrote:

>
> >Hows about a special maneuver: Super Pose! (no prerequisites, 2 Willpower)?
> >
> >Gives you...
> >
> >...Ta Da! +2 Glory!
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >"Must be as Dan-like as possible!"
>
> I reckon his super pose would be more 'Pose to Pose to Jumping pose'.
>
> DarkLight
>

---
Jens-Arthur Leirbakk
leirbakk@...

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Dennis Bryant" <gvwinterdawn@h...> wrote:
>
> >in the video game there is a huge difference between doing a super
> >and doing a normal combo.
> >
> >I think then if supers are converted to the rpg system that
> >difference should be reflected.
>
> uh, really in the video game there is little to no differance
between super
> & normal combos. About the only differance is the visuals.
Espessially in

------
well if you dont see any difference between combos and super moves in
the video game, I think you must not have a deep grasp on it.
------

> SSF2X, which is the closest game to the one the RPG is based on,
the Supers
> truly are just like other combos.

------
no they arent.
------

If it's the 'super meter' thing your
> complaining about,

------
im not complaining, you are. I dont even like the idea of having
supers in the rpg but i made the optional rules for those who do.
your the one 'complaining' trying to shoot the idea down which i
openly dont like to begin with. futile?
------


you have to consider that it's taken care of by the Chi &
> Willpower costs.

------
thats your oppinion. another way to look at it is "no its not".
chi and willpower differ from a super meter in a number of ways. not
least of all: what concept they represent.
------

You really can't have it just like the game unless you
> change the whole system, with no costs on any special moves, after
all, in
> the arcade Ryu & Ken can spit fireballs at each other for hours.

------
congratulations on that observation. I will keep it in mind if I
ever want it "just like the game". when i make 1 small optional rule
for ppl who have been openly seeking it however (like now) I will
discard your observation.
------


In the
> purest sense a Super combo is just a combo featuring mainly special
moves,
> if the front end gets blocked or avoided your just as vulnerable as
with a
> normal combo. The Supers are NO faster than the regular moves they
> incorperate(if anything, they're slower), I've thrown hours into
comparing
> them, likewise, they do no more damage then the regular moves
within them.

------
actually they have more priority initially, and they are a little
harder to get out of than normal combos (plus yes, many of them ARE
much faster). plus the fact that its just i big move that as you say,
is as powerfull as several moves 'within it'
------

> People just want to have an extra thingy on their character sheet
so they
> can go "oooh, look, it's bigger now".

------
really? I havent heard anyone ask for that. I think that is just how
you choose to see ppl who dont share your oppinion on this. i think
you want to believe that they are stupid in some way because they do
not agree with your oppinion which you think is somehow superior to
everyone elses.
------

I just don't see the point in makeing
> it more complicated & requireing more book keeping when the system
handles
> it perfectly well as it stands.
>

------
I dont see the point either. but some ppl have asked for a system to
do supers, so apparently SOMEONE sees a point to it.. In response, I
chose to make one for them. All you can do in response is try to
discourage ppl, complain, and proclaim your oppinion to be superior
to everyone elses.

read my page where I link to them and you'll see this:

"HIGHLY optional. I don't recomend changing the core rules this much,
but some people are just stuck on the idea of Super Combos so this is
for them."

from this you can get 3 peices of information if your quite wiley.
1. This is not for you to begin with, its for "them"
2. Its optional, obviously. so if you dont like it you have the
OPTION to not use it. Why exactly would you have a problem with this
option being availiable to ppl who DO like it? I do not understand
that stance...
3. I agree with you that they are not necesary, so what do you hope
to accomplish by arguing with me that they are not neccesary? unlike
you however, i take into account the oppinion of the ppl who DO want
them.

------

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Dennis Bryant" <gvwinterdawn@h...> wrote:

> I reckon his super pose would be more 'Pose to Pose to Jumping
pose'.
>
> DarkLight

>From: "mean_liar" <mean_liar@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: freaky combos
>Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:23:24 -0000
>
> > Would you guys allow a Combo that starts with "Show Off/Pose for a
> > round (+1 Glory)"
> >
> > What about a Combo that starts with a stunt card?
>
>I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I'd make the Combo explicitly
>list the Stunt required (Taunt, Sing, whatever) rather than leave it
>at 'Stunt to...'.
>
>I mean, why not?
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

> Here's an interesting question:
>
> Would you guys allow a Combo that starts with "Show Off/Pose for a
> round (+1 Glory)"

> What about a Combo that starts with a stunt card?

> Don't mind me, I'm just thinking of weird things to do with the game.

> Matt

> Okay, a badger-hybrid, an air/wind elemental, a guy with a

> a manager. No martial arts.

> Okay, a badger-hybrid,

>an air/wind elemental, a guy with a cybernetic nose,

> and
> a manager. No martial arts.

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>--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...>

>> Okay, a badger-hybrid, an air/wind elemental, a guy with a <BR>
>cybernetic nose, and<BR>
>> a manager.� No martial arts.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>is that supposed to be several guys or one guy?<BR>
>lol<BR>
><BR>
>> Okay, a badger-hybrid, <BR>
><BR>
>Already got a Cappi-Barra hybrid (practices capoiera)<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>>an air/wind elemental, a guy with a cybernetic nose,<BR>
><BR>
>We had a guy with a cybernetic ass. Bob Rage. He lost his ass

>by sitting on a grenade to save his squad...<BR>
><BR>
>> and<BR>
>> a manager.� No martial arts.<BR>
><BR>
>One update im gonna add all the stupid cliche/pun/joke characters

>group ever had.. bob rage, Kama Chameleon, Brass Monkey...<BR>
><BR>
>Actually we thought of one just the other day, "Mr. Kata"

>like Mr. Cotter [cott'a] from W"elcome Back Cotter") He is the

>of the posing combo's (kata's)<BR>
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> --- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> > Okay, a badger-hybrid, an air/wind elemental, a guy with a
> cybernetic nose, and
> > a manager. No martial arts.
>
>
> is that supposed to be several guys or one guy?
> lol

> We had a guy with a cybernetic ass. Bob Rage. He lost his ass in 'Nam
> by sitting on a grenade to save his squad...

>let me get this straight..
>you dont think supers are important enough to make but dans super
>taunt is?
>
>:)

>Wouldn't it be Dizzy as well?
>
>I.e. Pose - Pose - Jumping Pose (Dizzy)?

>------
>im not complaining, you are. I dont even like the idea of having
>supers in the rpg but i made the optional rules for those who do.
>your the one 'complaining' trying to shoot the idea down which i
>openly dont like to begin with. futile?
>------

>------
>thats your oppinion. another way to look at it is "no its not".
>chi and willpower differ from a super meter in a number of ways. not
>least of all: what concept they represent.
>------

>------
>congratulations on that observation. I will keep it in mind if I
>ever want it "just like the game". when i make 1 small optional rule
>for ppl who have been openly seeking it however (like now) I will
>discard your observation.
>------

>------
>actually they have more priority initially, and they are a little
>harder to get out of than normal combos (plus yes, many of them ARE
>much faster). plus the fact that its just i big move that as you say,
>is as powerfull as several moves 'within it'
>------

>------
>really? I havent heard anyone ask for that. I think that is just how
>you choose to see ppl who dont share your oppinion on this. i think
>you want to believe that they are stupid in some way because they do
>not agree with your oppinion which you think is somehow superior to
>everyone elses.
>------

>------
>I dont see the point either. but some ppl have asked for a system to
>do supers, so apparently SOMEONE sees a point to it.. In response, I
>chose to make one for them. All you can do in response is try to
>discourage ppl, complain, and proclaim your oppinion to be superior
>to everyone elses.
>------

>from this you can get 3 peices of information if your quite wiley.
>1. This is not for you to begin with, its for "them"

>2. Its optional, obviously. so if you dont like it you have the
>OPTION to not use it. Why exactly would you have a problem with this
>option being availiable to ppl who DO like it? I do not understand
>that stance...

>3. I agree with you that they are not necesary, so what do you hope
>to accomplish by arguing with me that they are not neccesary? unlike
>you however, i take into account the oppinion of the ppl who DO want
>them.

>
>Why are so many nubian brutha's and sista's portrayed in anime as
>having bleach-white hair and blue eyes?
>

>
> >
> >Why are so many nubian brutha's and sista's portrayed in anime as
> >having bleach-white hair and blue eyes?
> >
>
> What's a nubian?
>
>

>Hmmm. Odd thought just popped into my, so called, mind: Instead of having
>a
>level five manager being an uber-133t manager, how about giving them some
>of
>the unique backgrounds? Animal Hybrid would probably not be appropriate
>(or
>wise),

>are you really asking or quoting "Chasing Amy"?

> >Why are so many nubian brutha's and sista's portrayed in anime as
> >having bleach-white hair and blue eyes?
> >
>
>What's a nubian?

> I wasn't complaining, just presenting a point of view, I didn't

> your idear, I just presented an alternative.

> >------
> >thats your oppinion. another way to look at it is "no its not".
> >chi and willpower differ from a super meter in a number of ways.

> >least of all: what concept they represent.
> >------
>
> Yes, that is my opinion, that's kinda the whole point. I know very

> there are other ways of looking at it, is it for some reason for

> others to present their point of view, yet not ok for me to do so?

> >------
> >congratulations on that observation. I will keep it in mind if I
> >ever want it "just like the game". when i make 1 small optional

> >for ppl who have been openly seeking it however (like now) I will
> >discard your observation.
> >------
>
> At this point you're just being rude, which there is really no need

>
> >------
> >actually they have more priority initially, and they are a little
> >harder to get out of than normal combos (plus yes, many of them ARE
> >much faster). plus the fact that its just i big move that as you

> >is as powerfull as several moves 'within it'
> >------
>
> In my experiance they don't tend to be faster, if anything, the

> animation gives people who aren't allready in a move or realling

> hit extra time to block or get out of the way.

> >------
> >really? I havent heard anyone ask for that. I think that is just

> >you choose to see ppl who dont share your oppinion on this. i think
> >you want to believe that they are stupid in some way because they

> >not agree with your oppinion which you think is somehow superior to
> >everyone elses.
> >------
>
> When did I ever say my oppinion was better than anyone elses? I

> way I liked to do things, I never insulted anyone the way you are

> >------
> >I dont see the point either. but some ppl have asked for a system

> >do supers, so apparently SOMEONE sees a point to it.. In

> >chose to make one for them. All you can do in response is try to
> >discourage ppl, complain, and proclaim your oppinion to be superior
> >to everyone elses.
> >------
>
> & so you decide that it's ok for you make a system, but not for me

> how I run it?

> >from this you can get 3 peices of information if your quite wiley.
> >1. This is not for you to begin with, its for "them"
>
> Again, I was mearly presenting an alternative.

> >2. Its optional, obviously. so if you dont like it you have the
> >OPTION to not use it. Why exactly would you have a problem with

> >option being availiable to ppl who DO like it? I do not understand
> >that stance...
>
> I never said I had a problem with it being available, Just that

> other ways to deal with them which are a bit simpler, as an

> >3. I agree with you that they are not necesary, so what do you hope
> >to accomplish by arguing with me that they are not neccesary?

> >you however, i take into account the oppinion of the ppl who DO

> >them.
>
> You havn't mentioned your thinking they are not necesary untill

> surley since I was presenting an alternative way of dealing with

> taking into account people who want Super moves. It seems that you

> one who has a problem with other people's oppinions. Right from

> you just said that my way of doing things was wrong,

>hereas all I have put
> forward was another idear.

> By the way somebody play Tekken 4: It´s amazing...

>actually i was thinking i might actually like this one, it seems like
>they got rid of some of the things i disliked about tekken.
>

>
> >actually i was thinking i might actually like this one, it seems

> >they got rid of some of the things i disliked about tekken.
> >
> May I ask what is was you didn't like about Tekken?

>so does the new tekken have those big long things?
>
>Matt
>

>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Return to Castle Wolfenstein STF.


> I play Return to Castle Wolfstein and I it the best part happens in
> Catacombs with Zombies using shields to send back your bullets so
Blazkowitz
> (Main Character) use an orthodox method: a good low kick, with this the
> zombie lost his balance and I can use my arsenal over them...
> Of course a challenge is make this stage only using knife and kicks.

Damn, and here I am playing the $7 Wolfenstein 3d on my old P120 that I just
got from Wal-Mart (got the game from Wal-Mart, not the computer).

> By the way somebody play Tekken 4: It´s amazing...

Busy with VF4 at the moment, but without a memory card, it's a bit of a
letdown. (Alright, I understand that I can't hit a ducking opponent with a
high kick, but my character's legs just go right THROUGH the other guy, and
the same with blocks. No stutter motion or stoped animation on the attack,
just no effect. It's very frustrating)

I've seen previews in magazines for T4, and look forward to the Tekken Force
part of it as much as anything. (And wish they'd have that in it's own
game).

BTW, avoid Bloody Roar for PS2, it bites. I'm sticking with my PS1 version.

Gamecube, paradoxicly, has a decent version of Bloody Roar. (Also, the Agent
Under Fire looks better, and has bots in the multiplayer arenas. I think I
got the wrong system when I picked up PS2)

----- Original Message -----
From: "J.J." <tyger1@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Return to Castle Wolfenstein STF.


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:49 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Return to Castle Wolfenstein STF.
>
>
> > I play Return to Castle Wolfstein and I it the best part happens in
> > Catacombs with Zombies using shields to send back your bullets so
> Blazkowitz
> > (Main Character) use an orthodox method: a good low kick, with this the
> > zombie lost his balance and I can use my arsenal over them...
> > Of course a challenge is make this stage only using knife and kicks.
>
> Damn, and here I am playing the $7 Wolfenstein 3d on my old P120 that I
just
> got from Wal-Mart (got the game from Wal-Mart, not the computer).
>
> > By the way somebody play Tekken 4: It´s amazing...
>
> Busy with VF4 at the moment, but without a memory card, it's a bit of a
> letdown. (Alright, I understand that I can't hit a ducking opponent with a
> high kick, but my character's legs just go right THROUGH the other guy,
and
> the same with blocks. No stutter motion or stoped animation on the attack,
> just no effect. It's very frustrating)
>
> I've seen previews in magazines for T4, and look forward to the Tekken
Force
> part of it as much as anything. (And wish they'd have that in it's own
> game).
>
> BTW, avoid Bloody Roar for PS2, it bites. I'm sticking with my PS1
version.
>
> Gamecube, paradoxicly, has a decent version of Bloody Roar. (Also, the
Agent
> Under Fire looks better, and has bots in the multiplayer arenas. I think I
> got the wrong system when I picked up PS2)
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

> > May I ask what is was you didn't like about Tekken?
>
>
>mainly the ten hit combos.
>I felt that was a bit much for a combo unless your playing killer
>instinct.

>BTW, avoid Bloody Roar for PS2, it bites. I'm sticking with my PS1 version.
>
>Gamecube, paradoxicly, has a decent version of Bloody Roar. (Also, the
>Agent
>Under Fire looks better, and has bots in the multiplayer arenas. I think I
>got the wrong system when I picked up PS2)
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "necro6hit" <ringthief@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:21 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein STF.


> --- In streetfighter@y..., Kim Foster <nexus@q...> wrote:
> >
> > >actually i was thinking i might actually like this one, it seems
> like
> > >they got rid of some of the things i disliked about tekken.
> > >
> > May I ask what is was you didn't like about Tekken?
>
>
> mainly the ten hit combos.
> I felt that was a bit much for a combo unless your playing killer
> instinct.
>
> and theres always some dick who just does the stupid 10 hit combo
> over and over and beats you just cuz he memorized the button
> presses. this style of play can be done with your eyes closed!
>
> (incedentaly i dont see why everyone cremes over 10 hit combos, I get
> well over 10 if you count juggles one time, just to see how high i
> could get)
>
> so does the new tekken have those big long things?
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
>

>
>>
>>Why are so many nubian brutha's and sista's portrayed in anime as
>>having bleach-white hair and blue eyes?
>>
>
>What's a nubian?
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--- In streetfighter@y..., "J.J." <tyger1@f...> wrote:
> Busy with VF4 at the moment, but without a memory card, it's a bit
of a
> letdown. (Alright, I understand that I can't hit a ducking opponent
with a
> high kick, but my character's legs just go right THROUGH the other
guy, and
> the same with blocks. No stutter motion or stoped animation on the
attack,
> just no effect. It's very frustrating)

----- Original Message -----

From: necro6hit

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:45 AM

Subject: [streetfighter] Re: freaky combos

let me get this straight..
you dont think supers are important enough to make but dans super
taunt is?

:)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Dennis Bryant" <gvwinterdawn@h...> wrote:

> I reckon his super pose would be more 'Pose to Pose to Jumping
pose'.
>
> DarkLight




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

> Stop it, Dennis and Necro....this argument is pointless.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Frank Rizzo" <checkwithme97@h...> wrote:
> Hey everyone real quick, i could use some feedback you everyone
would help
> me out, how many dots does everyone think vega should have in his
claw
> technique?
>
>
>
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> Necro6hit, I appreciate you taking into account people who support
>such systems despite your reservations,

>but there's no need to start
>something over this.

>
> >so does the new tekken have those big long things?
> >
> >Matt
> >
> I think it had some big ones, but I don't know if there were ten hitters in
> the mix (Never played it personally). DOA 3 does seem very "inspired" by the
> Tekken games tho'

> What's a nubian?

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> I thought it was inspired by Go Nagi.
>
> (For those not in the know, Go Nagi did the character designes for
Fatal Fury:
> The motion picture, Cutey Honey, and Voltage Fighter Gowkaizer)

> Hey everyone real quick, i could use some feedback you everyone

> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Frank Rizzo" <checkwithme97@h...> wrote:
> Hey everyone real quick, i could use some feedback you everyone would help
> me out, how many dots does everyone think vega should have in his claw
> technique?

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>
>refresh the page if you dont see her.
>
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--- In streetfighter@y..., "Dennis Bryant" <gvwinterdawn@h...> wrote:
> Could you post (though I'm sure you have many time in the past)
your site's
> address?

----- Original Message -----
From: "necro6hit" <ringthief@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein STF.


> that game is so deep!
> I really love it (vf4).
>
> At first several things about it seem weird or unfair, but thats
> usually just cuz your used to how other fighting games play.
>

> Matt
>

Difficulty doesn't bother me. (I can always adjust it in 'options') but the
complete lack of targeting or block animations. I mean, it's bad enough in
wrestling games where there are a bunch of on-screen characters when a choke
slam has Undertaker's hand a foot above Stephanie McMahon's head, but a leg
sweep going THROUGH an opponent to no reaction whatsoever just kinda sucks
something out of a one on one fighting game.

>Well its in the bookmarks section too, but in case you never actually
>visit the group site, my address is http://www.tlcnet.com/~slappy/sf/
>
>have you ever been there before or did you just forget the addy?
>
>Matt