I think the confusion is trying to discern between 'coolness' (ie,
how others perceive you), vs. professional cool (ie, not freaking out
when the lead starts flying).

I can understand a stat for the 2nd type... it's like a fear check of
sorts in, say, D&D. :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "necro6hit" <throwrocks@b...> wrote:
> my group just handles how cool you are based on roleplaying.
> kinda goofy to have a stat for it.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jeff Yurkiw" <jyurkiw@m...> wrote:

> Oh. I also love the way that Bison is back to his good 'ole bad-ass

pre-alpha self. Good ridance to the pilsburry-bison-boy look.


Yeah, I noticed the change. I felt like they could've kept the cape,
though. And he *seems* a lot more effective than Bison in Alpha
('course, I was playing the North American version w/o Shin Vega,
so...).

I love all the characters!

> So is anyone besides me tempted to make a SF:STG style based on
> King? :)

Boo. She's a Muay Thai kickboxer. Lightning Leg, Fireballs... the
only unaccounted-for move is the Leap-on-you-and-Kick-You-Lots move.
But, thats only a single maneuver and certainly not enough to
generate an entire style -- you can certainly convert the maneuver to
an Athletics move:


Leap-on-you-and-Kick-You-Lots
Athletics maneuver
Prerequisites: Atheletics 4, Kick 3, Flying Heel Stomp
Description: <Play as Duck, do an uppercut with Kick.>
System: Knockdown; Avoids projectiles as Jump; straight-line movement
only; Aerial; attacker can attack and then finish moving; Non-
blocking opponents suffer 3 damage tests
Cost: 1 Willpower
Speed: +0
Damage: +0 (x3 vs nonBlocking opponents)
Move: +1

yeah i meant "improvement over 1" (oops):)

we finally got used to the rolls but we keep em off cuz we are
hardcore sf fans. when we first got it though it made for some very
cheap shit. it would seem like no matter what you do they roll
through it and hit you (gief grab if your me:))

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "nat_drest" <joaqrb@y...> wrote:
> > I love this game too, VAST improvement over cap vs snk 2 in which
> it
> > was a 4 button snk layout (yuck). 6 buttons rule!
>
> You mean over Cap vs SNK 1, right? CvS2 has 6 buttons. ^_^
>
> Personally, I love having the rolls. One of the things I hated
back
> when I played SF2 was Ryu/Guile players who would just sit there
> throwing fireballs and then dragon punch when you leap over. With
> rolls, projectiles are no longer exasperating doom for characters
who
> don't have them.
>
> So is anyone besides me tempted to make a SF:STG style based on
> King? :)

thanks for the 2d fighter maker help.

and yes i just typoe'd when i said it was an improvement over the 4
buttons of cap vs snk 2 (i meant 1)

btw, am i the only one jones'n for virtua fighter 4 to come out?
that game looks pretty cool:)

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., Ian Toltz <toltz@m...> wrote:
> For the 2D fighter maker, try M.U.G.E.N.
>
> Search yahoo. If you have linux you can get the latest build off
> elecbyte.com, the maker, otherwise you'll need to find the last DOS
> version off one of the sites on yahoo.
>
> And for the record, CvS2 had a 6 button layout, CvS1 had a 4 button
layout.
>
> necro6hit wrote:
>
> > the rolls in cap mode can get annoying.
> > changes EVERYTHING. (fireball? 'Gief rolls under and final atomic
> > buster)
> >
> > I suggest making a custom cap groove without rolls as soon as you
> > unlock the groove editor (give em the sf3 parry instead:)).
> >
> > I love this game too, VAST improvement over cap vs snk 2 in which
it
> > was a 4 button snk layout (yuck). 6 buttons rule!
> >
> > Matt
> > p.s. anyone know where I can get 2d fighter maker for the pc?
(yes,
> > there was one waay before 3d fighter maker)
> >
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@y..., "mean_liar" <mean_liar@h...> wrote:
> > > New game I've started playing:
> > >
> > > Capcom vs SNK 2.
> > >
> > > More fun than you can shake a stick at. Though I have to say
that
> > > converting the SNK characters and maneuvers seems to generate a
LOT
> > > of Focus-based powers, or at least a lot of powers that look
like
> > > they should be Focus based.
> > >
> > > Ah, who cares. Its got Haromaru!
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service
> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.

by the way, the stupid AI for cap vs snk 2 lets you just breeze
through the whole game on any difficulty by rolling at them and doing
zangiefs 360+K move (move depends on how close you are)

then as theyre falling away walk at em, right before they get up roll
again and grab em as they stand.

over and over.

sad.

btw, yes King is Muay Thai. thats what ive always heard.
Ive heard rumor the new girl in vf4 is too(Vanessa Lewis), can anyone
confirm?
Everywhere i see it officially it says her stle is "unconfirmed" or
some such.

Matt

Is King officially muay thai? I checked various story/bio websites,
and it seemed unclear whether she was muay thai or savate. Her stance
does look rather muay thaiish, though.

Anyway, I think there are more differences than was stated... mirage
kick isn't really the same as lightning leg (sure, it hits several
times, but it also begins by sliding forward, and ends with a big
roundhouse), and King herself clearly has repeating fireball... eh, I
guess SF:STG's muay thai is close enough, but I like King so much that
the differences bother me. ;P

Incidentally, the "leap up and kick you lots" move is called surprise
rose, and it's not much like the description you gave. She does all
the kicks whether or not the victim blocks, and she bounces off a
short distance away afterwards. Also, you missed the important bit,
that it hits an extra time in midair if you use it on someone as they
come down at you. I'd suggest something like this:

Surprise Rose
requires: Kick 4, Flying Heel Stomp
Spd +0, Dmg +2, Mv +0
cost: 1 willpower
Aerial. Attacker bounces 2 hexes away after dealing damage. If used
to interrupt an aerial maneuver, make two damage tests.

I don't think King has flying heel stomp, actually, but it wouldn't be
fair to FHS to give a move like this to people who haven't bought FHS.
And yeah, I know she kicks several times in the animation, but I
don't think the damage is high enough to justify multiple tests.

> roundhouse), and King herself clearly has repeating fireball... eh,

Ok, let me shut myself up here. I forgot repeating fireball is
available to any... (Somehow I got its availabilities confused with
those of improved fireball, which isn't allowed for muay thai.)

I'm not sure how many people on this list are red dwarf fans but I
thought that for those of you who are that you might be intrested in
this.

www.deep7.com will be releasing Red Dwarf the RPG in fall of this
year. I'm not sure when they will be releasing copies to be put on
advance order but you know that as soon as they do, I'm going to put
in my order for one! I can't wait!
~LB

You could note her fighting stance? Is a classical Muay Thai stance? I´m not
an expert but all fighting movies the stance is very similar to King
fighting stance or better saying fighting position. About Flying Heel Stomp,
I always make confusion with the manuver one is using Kick Technique and the
other is using Athletics, I think she have the manuver with kick. But we can
just talk, god a good biograph is missing for her and for most part of snk
people, it´s a shame...

----- Original Message -----
From: "nat_drest" <joaqrb@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: I love the Dreamcast


> Is King officially muay thai? I checked various story/bio websites,
> and it seemed unclear whether she was muay thai or savate. Her stance
> does look rather muay thaiish, though.
>
> Anyway, I think there are more differences than was stated... mirage
> kick isn't really the same as lightning leg (sure, it hits several
> times, but it also begins by sliding forward, and ends with a big
> roundhouse), and King herself clearly has repeating fireball... eh, I
> guess SF:STG's muay thai is close enough, but I like King so much that
> the differences bother me. ;P
>
> Incidentally, the "leap up and kick you lots" move is called surprise
> rose, and it's not much like the description you gave. She does all
> the kicks whether or not the victim blocks, and she bounces off a
> short distance away afterwards. Also, you missed the important bit,
> that it hits an extra time in midair if you use it on someone as they
> come down at you. I'd suggest something like this:
>
> Surprise Rose
> requires: Kick 4, Flying Heel Stomp
> Spd +0, Dmg +2, Mv +0
> cost: 1 willpower
> Aerial. Attacker bounces 2 hexes away after dealing damage. If used
> to interrupt an aerial maneuver, make two damage tests.
>
> I don't think King has flying heel stomp, actually, but it wouldn't be
> fair to FHS to give a move like this to people who haven't bought FHS.
> And yeah, I know she kicks several times in the animation, but I
> don't think the damage is high enough to justify multiple tests.
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>

> I'm not sure how many people on this list are red dwarf fans but I
> thought that for those of you who are that you might be intrested in
> this.
>
> www.deep7.com will be releasing Red Dwarf the RPG in fall of this
> year. I'm not sure when they will be releasing copies to be put on
> advance order but you know that as soon as they do, I'm going to put
> in my order for one! I can't wait!
> ~LB

Damn. I thought this post was related to astronomy.... :)

___________________________________________________
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--- In streetfighter@y..., "nat_drest" <joaqrb@y...> wrote:

> Is King officially muay thai? I checked various story/bio

websites, > and it seemed unclear whether she was muay thai or
savate. Her stance > does look rather muay thaiish, though.

Close enough to Muay Thai to make it her style. But then again, I
threw out Majestic Crow as a distinct style, too (its "just" Kung
Fu). Of course, I'm pretty lenient with letting players design
maneuvers as well, so, for example, you'd have to go to a Praying
Mantis sifu to have him teach you the Mantis Hook, though any Kung
Fu practitioner could learn it.

I like working it this because from what I understand of Kung Fu,
the forms and stances developed into the flowery-type styles because
masters wanted to hide their secrets from those who would watch them
practice... which seems to imply that if you knew a little Kung Fu,
you could probably learn a maneuver or two from the right people.

If I get the right bug up my butt, I'd rewrite 'Kung Fu' and 'Tai
Chi Ch'uan' into "Kung Fu (External)" comprising all the external
Chinese styles and "Kung Fu (internal)" comprising all the internal
styles (Pa Qua, Taiji, etc.). I certainly think that Taiji should
be more useful outside of Focus powers, but then there's game
balance issues.

> Anyway, I think there are more differences than was stated...

mirage > kick isn't really the same as lightning leg (sure, it hits
several > times, but it also begins by sliding forward, and ends
with a big > roundhouse),

Ah, still a Lightning Leg. I figure Terry Bogard's 'flaming lunge
punch' (ABSOLUTELY no familiarity with the SNK move designations) is
a Dashing Punch, flames aside. (I figure the flames are just a cool
special effect... no use making a new maneuver up for such a similar
move, especially coming from a 'generic-style' brawler like Terry).

Its all that early gaming exposure to Champions. Makes me reduce
everything to its basics.

> Incidentally, the "leap up and kick you lots" move is called

surprise > rose, and it's not much like the description you gave.
She does all > the kicks whether or not the victim blocks, and she
bounces off a > short distance away afterwards. Also, you missed
the important bit, > that it hits an extra time in midair if you use
it on someone as they > come down at you. I'd suggest something
like this:

>
> Surprise Rose
> requires: Kick 4, Flying Heel Stomp
> Spd +0, Dmg +2, Mv +0
> cost: 1 willpower
> Aerial. Attacker bounces 2 hexes away after dealing damage. If

used > to interrupt an aerial maneuver, make two damage tests.

Yeah, just played the game a bit. Its could be considered a weak
version of Adon's Jaguar Knee followed by multiple Flying Heel
Stomps.

Personally, I'd classify it as an 'Athletics' maneuver.

> And yeah, I know she kicks several times in the animation, but I
> don't think the damage is high enough to justify multiple tests.

I'd disagree on this one. A Whirlwind Kick (or DeeJay's Hyperfist)
don't really do a lot of damage each hit, but they do count as
multiple hit maneuvers. Though I'm loathe to do it (its just
not "clean"), 1 damage test at +1 (only when interrupting an Aerial
maneuver) and 3 tests at -2 (always).

The part I really don't like about this is that the initial move is
SO similar to a Jaguar Knee that I have to purposefully ignore it,
otherwise I end up with...

Surprise Rose
Athletics Maneuver
Prerequisites: Jaguar Knee, Flying Heel Stomp, Athletics 4
System: 2 tests at -1 when Interrupting an Aerial opponent
3 tests at -2 against all.
Knockdown.
Cost: 2 Willpower
Speed: +0
Damage: Special (see above)
Move: +1

...which is too 'flashy' for me (it encourages players to come up
with ridiculous moves with 'Flaming Dragon Punch' and 'Knife Hand
Strike' as prerequisites). I generally like to keep the moves
similarly powered, with the high-damage maneuvers really sticking
out, like Dragon Kick, Improved Fireball, Spinning Pile Driver, etc.

> god a good biograph is missing for her and for most part of snk
> people, it´s a shame

I was looking around a while back and came across a page chok-a-blok
full of SNK and King of Fighters conversions for the Street Fighter
RPG. I can't remember the damn address though.

All I can distinctly remember about the page is that it had little
animated GIFs of the various fighters on their respective HTML
character sheets.

Anyone know the site? I went looking around today to try and find
it and came up with nothing.

On this subject (sorry if topic for the list),
can anyone guide me to easy directions for technically inept people to
replace a Dreamcast drive unit?

Tony

If you mean her super (Desperation Move), the name is "Illusion Flash."

I've converted every KOF character up to 98 for the SF STG game I run,
including most of the maneuvers where I didn't feel ones already in the book
would suffice - but I just use combos to recreate Desperation Moves. This
one being: Jumping Short Kick to Mirage Kick to Tornado Kick.

Tony "Knight of the Black Rose" Figueroa
Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/

> Leap-on-you-and-Kick-You-Lots
> Athletics maneuver
> Prerequisites: Atheletics 4, Kick 3, Flying Heel Stomp
> Description: <Play as Duck, do an uppercut with Kick.>
> System: Knockdown; Avoids projectiles as Jump; straight-line movement
> only; Aerial; attacker can attack and then finish moving; Non-
> blocking opponents suffer 3 damage tests
> Cost: 1 Willpower
> Speed: +0
> Damage: +0 (x3 vs nonBlocking opponents)
> Move: +1
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

I´m curious in STF RPG, they never talk about the first characters
except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is Balrog) and Sagat. Somebody use in
a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and Eagle?

Think its because the game came out before alphas.
Pretty sure it came out in the 2d 16 bit era.



--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
wrote:

> I�m curious in STF RPG, they never talk about
> the first characters
> except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is Balrog)
> and Sagat. Somebody use in
> a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and
> Eagle?
>
>

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Those are from the very first game, just-plain Street Fighter. (At
least, Eagle is. Don't recall the names of most of the characters.)
SF:STG is based on Street Fighter 2, like pretty much all subsidiary
SF material.

--- In streetfighter@y..., Jason Obeston <callanme@y...> wrote:
> Think its because the game came out before alphas.
> Pretty sure it came out in the 2d 16 bit era.
>
> --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> wrote:
> > I´m curious in STF RPG, they never talk about
> > the first characters
> > except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is Balrog)
> > and Sagat. Somebody use in
> > a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and
> > Eagle?


Re: King's desperation move:
No, we're talking about her special called "surprise rose". It's a
fairly recent addition to her repertoire; she may not have had it
back in KoF '98.



Re: Terry's "burning knuckle":
Yeah, it is very much like dashing punch, but... if I really wanted
to use it in a game for some odd reason, I'd probably make it an
improved version of dashing punch, like flaming dragon punch is to
dragon punch. Dunno what stats... just dashing punch with an
additional chi cost and a second damage test plus knockdown, or
something. And as a special effect, have the user move through the
victim's hex to the hex on the other side. (IIRC, in the videogame
Terry charges straight "through" the opponent as she falls.)

Basically I just want to reflect that burning knuckle is a really
powerful maneuver, not just a run-and-punch. ^_^

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Ah. They did later appear in alpha though right? At
least I think they're in on of the alpha's I have for
dreamcast. Anyway did the original streetfighter ever
hit any platforms or was it soley arcade?



--- nat_drest <joaqrb@...> wrote:

> Those are from the very first game, just-plain
> Street Fighter. (At
> least, Eagle is. Don't recall the names of most of
> the characters.)
> SF:STG is based on Street Fighter 2, like pretty
> much all subsidiary
> SF material.
>
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., Jason Obeston
> <callanme@y...> wrote:
> > Think its because the game came out before alphas.
>
> > Pretty sure it came out in the 2d 16 bit era.
> >
> > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > I�m curious in STF RPG, they never talk
> about
> > > the first characters
> > > except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is
> Balrog)
> > > and Sagat. Somebody use in
> > > a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and
> > > Eagle?
>
>
> Re: King's desperation move:
> No, we're talking about her special called "surprise
> rose". It's a
> fairly recent addition to her repertoire; she may
> not have had it
> back in KoF '98.
>
>
>
> Re: Terry's "burning knuckle":
> Yeah, it is very much like dashing punch, but... if
> I really wanted
> to use it in a game for some odd reason, I'd
> probably make it an
> improved version of dashing punch, like flaming
> dragon punch is to
> dragon punch. Dunno what stats... just dashing
> punch with an
> additional chi cost and a second damage test plus
> knockdown, or
> something. And as a special effect, have the user
> move through the
> victim's hex to the hex on the other side. (IIRC,
> in the videogame
> Terry charges straight "through" the opponent as she
> falls.)
>
> Basically I just want to reflect that burning
> knuckle is a really
> powerful maneuver, not just a run-and-punch. ^_^
>
>

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Yes but they could use something, but whatever in a campaing I use them, of
course I make using the world warriors pattern.

----- Original Message -----
From: "nat_drest" <joaqrb@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Classic Fighters: Stf I., and more SNK


Those are from the very first game, just-plain Street Fighter. (At
least, Eagle is. Don't recall the names of most of the characters.)
SF:STG is based on Street Fighter 2, like pretty much all subsidiary
SF material.


--- In streetfighter@y..., Jason Obeston <callanme@y...> wrote:
> Think its because the game came out before alphas.
> Pretty sure it came out in the 2d 16 bit era.
>
> --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> wrote:
> > I´m curious in STF RPG, they never talk about
> > the first characters
> > except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is Balrog)
> > and Sagat. Somebody use in
> > a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and
> > Eagle?


Re: King's desperation move:
No, we're talking about her special called "surprise rose". It's a
fairly recent addition to her repertoire; she may not have had it
back in KoF '98.



Re: Terry's "burning knuckle":
Yeah, it is very much like dashing punch, but... if I really wanted
to use it in a game for some odd reason, I'd probably make it an
improved version of dashing punch, like flaming dragon punch is to
dragon punch. Dunno what stats... just dashing punch with an
additional chi cost and a second damage test plus knockdown, or
something. And as a special effect, have the user move through the
victim's hex to the hex on the other side. (IIRC, in the videogame
Terry charges straight "through" the opponent as she falls.)

Basically I just want to reflect that burning knuckle is a really
powerful maneuver, not just a run-and-punch. ^_^





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I think it´s only for arcade, but let me see a thing if you put a style for
each fighter for this game.

Mike- Boxing
Geki- Ninjutsu
Joe- Western Kickboxing
Lee- Kung Fu
Eagle- Special Forces or Own Style with tonfa or short baton.
Adon- Muay Thai
Sagat- Muay Thai
Birdie- Brawling

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Obeston" <callanme@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Classic Fighters: Stf I., and more SNK


> Ah. They did later appear in alpha though right? At
> least I think they're in on of the alpha's I have for
> dreamcast. Anyway did the original streetfighter ever
> hit any platforms or was it soley arcade?
>
>
>
> --- nat_drest <joaqrb@...> wrote:
> > Those are from the very first game, just-plain
> > Street Fighter. (At
> > least, Eagle is. Don't recall the names of most of
> > the characters.)
> > SF:STG is based on Street Fighter 2, like pretty
> > much all subsidiary
> > SF material.
> >
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@y..., Jason Obeston
> > <callanme@y...> wrote:
> > > Think its because the game came out before alphas.
> >
> > > Pretty sure it came out in the 2d 16 bit era.
> > >
> > > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I´m curious in STF RPG, they never talk
> > about
> > > > the first characters
> > > > except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is
> > Balrog)
> > > > and Sagat. Somebody use in
> > > > a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and
> > > > Eagle?
> >
> >
> > Re: King's desperation move:
> > No, we're talking about her special called "surprise
> > rose". It's a
> > fairly recent addition to her repertoire; she may
> > not have had it
> > back in KoF '98.
> >
> >
> >
> > Re: Terry's "burning knuckle":
> > Yeah, it is very much like dashing punch, but... if
> > I really wanted
> > to use it in a game for some odd reason, I'd
> > probably make it an
> > improved version of dashing punch, like flaming
> > dragon punch is to
> > dragon punch. Dunno what stats... just dashing
> > punch with an
> > additional chi cost and a second damage test plus
> > knockdown, or
> > something. And as a special effect, have the user
> > move through the
> > victim's hex to the hex on the other side. (IIRC,
> > in the videogame
> > Terry charges straight "through" the opponent as she
> > falls.)
> >
> > Basically I just want to reflect that burning
> > knuckle is a really
> > powerful maneuver, not just a run-and-punch. ^_^
> >
> >
>
>
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No, Vanessa has a boxing-type style. Pretty much every move she uses can be
done with Boxing.

Tony "Knight of the Black Rose" Figueroa
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----- Original Message -----
From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: I love the Dreamcast


> by the way, the stupid AI for cap vs snk 2 lets you just breeze
> through the whole game on any difficulty by rolling at them and doing
> zangiefs 360+K move (move depends on how close you are)
>
> then as theyre falling away walk at em, right before they get up roll
> again and grab em as they stand.
>
> over and over.
>
> sad.
>
> btw, yes King is Muay Thai. thats what ive always heard.
> Ive heard rumor the new girl in vf4 is too(Vanessa Lewis), can anyone
> confirm?
> Everywhere i see it officially it says her stle is "unconfirmed" or
> some such.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

--- Jason Obeston <callanme@...> wrote:

> Ah. They did later appear in alpha though right? At
> least I think they're in on of the alpha's I have for
> dreamcast. Anyway did the original streetfighter ever
> hit any platforms or was it soley arcade?

To the best of my knowledge, it only hit the PC.

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doesnt she have any kick moves?
also, boxing and muay thai overlap a great deal, so her having boxing
moves i dont think rules out muay thai.

(btw, im talking about irl styles, not just styles in sf:stg)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> No, Vanessa has a boxing-type style. Pretty much every move she
uses can be
> done with Boxing.
>
> Tony "Knight of the Black Rose" Figueroa
> Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@b...>
> To: <streetfighter@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:17 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: I love the Dreamcast
>
>
> > by the way, the stupid AI for cap vs snk 2 lets you just breeze
> > through the whole game on any difficulty by rolling at them and
doing
> > zangiefs 360+K move (move depends on how close you are)
> >
> > then as theyre falling away walk at em, right before they get up
roll
> > again and grab em as they stand.
> >
> > over and over.
> >
> > sad.
> >
> > btw, yes King is Muay Thai. thats what ive always heard.
> > Ive heard rumor the new girl in vf4 is too(Vanessa Lewis), can
anyone
> > confirm?
> > Everywhere i see it officially it says her stle is "unconfirmed"
or
> > some such.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >

ill be converting eagle from snk vs capcom 2 but I fail to find a
good enuff emulation of sf1 to convert them all.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
wrote:

> I´m curious in STF RPG, they never talk about the first

characters

> except of course Ryu, Ken, Mike (Maybe is Balrog) and Sagat.

Somebody use in

> a campaing the old characters like Joe, Geki and Eagle?

Learned while searching for a good emulation:
SF1 was released on the Turbo Graphics 16 and also on some England
only home system I cant remember the goofy name for.

-Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., Jason Obeston <callanme@y...> wrote:
> Ah. They did later appear in alpha though right? At
> least I think they're in on of the alpha's I have for
> dreamcast. Anyway did the original streetfighter ever
> hit any platforms or was it soley arcade?
>
>

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:

> No, Vanessa has a boxing-type style. Pretty much every move she uses

can be

> done with Boxing.
>
> Tony "Knight of the Black Rose" Figueroa
> Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/

Is that the same Vanessa as in King of Fighters 2000? Short red hair,
white shirt, black tie? She had an all-punches style...

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:

> --- Jason Obeston <callanme@y...> wrote:
> > Ah. They did later appear in alpha though right? At
> > least I think they're in on of the alpha's I have for
> > dreamcast. Anyway did the original streetfighter ever
> > hit any platforms or was it soley arcade?
>
> To the best of my knowledge, it only hit the PC.

TurboGrafix16 had the original Street Fighter.

Ok, I doubt anyone but me cares about her, but I just wanna say that
I've been looking her over, and I'm pretty sure her style is savate.
Her stance does look very muay thai, but none of her moves bear that
out.

1) She's heavily kick-based. AFAIK, muay thai is primarily a
punching style. Savate was initially created as a kicks-only style,
and later had boxing mixed in to round it out for combat.

2) As far as I can tell, she never kicks with the shin, which is a
muay thai trademark.

3) Several of her kicks appear to hit with the toe, which I believe
is more or less unique to savate. (Most styles emphasize using the
sole or the back of the foot, to avoid breaking off your toes if
you're not wearing hard shoes.)

I am, of course, talking about RL muay thai. This has little to do
with SF:STG, I'm afraid. Mainly just my fangirl obsessiveness.

the only 2 'official' things i can remember about king was that she
is muay thai, and she owns a bar.

now for the life of me I cant remember WHERE i heard them, so I cant
verify it, but i think i heard it somewhere.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "nat_drest" <joaqrb@y...> wrote:
> Ok, I doubt anyone but me cares about her, but I just wanna say
that
> I've been looking her over, and I'm pretty sure her style is
savate.
> Her stance does look very muay thai, but none of her moves bear
that
> out.
>
> 1) She's heavily kick-based. AFAIK, muay thai is primarily a
> punching style. Savate was initially created as a kicks-only
style,
> and later had boxing mixed in to round it out for combat.
>
> 2) As far as I can tell, she never kicks with the shin, which is a
> muay thai trademark.
>
> 3) Several of her kicks appear to hit with the toe, which I believe
> is more or less unique to savate. (Most styles emphasize using the
> sole or the back of the foot, to avoid breaking off your toes if
> you're not wearing hard shoes.)
>
> I am, of course, talking about RL muay thai. This has little to do
> with SF:STG, I'm afraid. Mainly just my fangirl obsessiveness.

no, vannesa from the new virtua fighter. black girl, white hair, buff
as hell.

well thats what "I" was talking about, I "HOPE" thats what tony was
talking about or we are drastically not on the same page.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "nat_drest" <joaqrb@y...> wrote:
> Is that the same Vanessa as in King of Fighters 2000? Short red
hair,
> white shirt, black tie? She had an all-punches style...


--- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> No, Vanessa has a boxing-type style. Pretty much every move she
uses can be
> done with Boxing.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@b...>
> To: <streetfighter@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:17 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: I love the Dreamcast
>

> > btw, yes King is Muay Thai. thats what ive always heard.
> > Ive heard rumor the new girl in vf4 is too(Vanessa Lewis), can
anyone
> > confirm?
> > Everywhere i see it officially it says her stle is "unconfirmed"
or
> > some such.
> >
> > Matt
> >

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