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Group: streetfighter Message: 1205 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1206 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Stuff
Group: streetfighter Message: 1207 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1208 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Boot to the Head, and other masty moves!
Group: streetfighter Message: 1209 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1210 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1211 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1212 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1213 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Boot vs. Nurple Round 1
Group: streetfighter Message: 1214 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1215 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Group: streetfighter Message: 1216 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1217 From: Ryan M Rich Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1218 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1219 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1220 From: Chris Nelson Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1221 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1222 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1223 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1224 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1225 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1226 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1227 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1228 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Group: streetfighter Message: 1229 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Group: streetfighter Message: 1230 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1231 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
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Subject: OH YES...
Group: streetfighter Message: 1233 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
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Subject: Re: OH YES...
Group: streetfighter Message: 1235 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1236 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Group: streetfighter Message: 1237 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: OH YES...
Group: streetfighter Message: 1238 From: Ryan M Rich Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1239 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1240 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1241 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1242 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: OH YES...
Group: streetfighter Message: 1243 From: Eric Thayer Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Fantastic Pragmatism
Group: streetfighter Message: 1244 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Online Combat
Group: streetfighter Message: 1245 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Online Combat
Group: streetfighter Message: 1246 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Storyteller System Dice Mechanic Statistical Analysis
Group: streetfighter Message: 1247 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Alien and Predator.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1248 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1249 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1250 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1251 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1252 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Group: streetfighter Message: 1253 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Group: streetfighter Message: 1254 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens



Group: streetfighter Message: 1205 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
MITZPD@... wrote:

> I DO ANY KIND NAME IT I TAKE IT BUT I SPECALIZE IN CAPOEIRA

I find that rather unlikely.
Whos your mestre?


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1206 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Stuff
yes, the MTAs are just Thai Kickboxing thugs.  But if you're tired of using the templates in the back of the book and want something tougher for your Asian adventures, they work wonders.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pascuttini <galactus@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:06 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Stuff

I like the elite gaurd Idea.
As for the Muay Thai guys ... I just thought they were a bunch of criminal punks

who knew MT.
Cant wait to see centeral. :)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1207 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Well, we all know the folks at Capcom don't know jack about martial styles. ;)
 
Wu Shu is indeed the government-sanctioned form of Kung Fu and according to a book on it I've got, the two are referred to interchangeably, depending on who you're talking to (this book I've got lists Tai Chi as a variant of wushu and not gongfu).  Wu Shu as practiced in school (from what she's told me) is kinda like a softened version of the art; they teach the stances and moves but not how to fight, kinda like tae bo and ki bo aerobic classes here in the States.  Wushu literally means "war art".
 
I asked her if Chun Li's costume was accurate at all, maybe it was a performance getup or an acrobat's costume, but she said she'd never seen anything like it, and that it was probably a stereotype.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pascuttini <galactus@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:01 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial arts

:)
It s interesting you should say that about Chun Li's Uniform.
I managed to get in contact with someone at Capcom and they told me that chun Li's
style is only kung Fu.
An interesting thing about Wu shu is that
Can you ask your girlfriend  If costumes like that actually exist or is that is an Wu shu
Costume. From what Ive seen Wu Shu Competitors only have two Uniforms.
A silk uniform. And a dark short sleved Uniform for a style called Nan Chuan.

The same sortof goes for Kabbadi. Actual Kabbadi is an Indian Game. Not a martial art. A rather interesting Game.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 sad to say, the only real experience I have with martial arts is from SF, but I have picked up bits and pieces about various styles from everywhere.  Still, my girlfriend is from China and she knows more than I do (much more) since she is an avid fan of the Dragon Princess and other martial-arts novels/series.  She also had to practice Wu Shu as part of her physical education in school when she was younger. On a related note, she loves SFII V because of its, in her opinion, remarkable similarity to the epic martial-arts novels/series of novels she used to read.  We watched half(!) the series last night and she's dying to see how it comes out.  Second, as you probably all know, Chun Li's outfit is *far* from accurate.  I asked her if Chinese acrobats ever wore anything like that and she asked me if I was serious. :p so, now you know. :) soon as I can get her to overcome her insecurity about her English, she may join my campaign.  Right now, she just watches.  :)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1208 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Boot to the Head, and other masty moves!
Boot to the Head. Kick OOOO
Power Points : Any 5
By screaming at the top of his lungs, "Boot to the Head", and kicking
his opponent in the head, the fighter may cause his opponent to colapse in an
unconscious lump.
System : If damage is scored, the opponent suffers a knockdown and is
dizzied. The kick can be done without shouting "Boot to the Head", but it
causes the move to do less damage, and loses all knockdown and dizzing
capablities.
Speed: -5 (if done without shouting "Boot to the Head", speed is increased to
-1)
Damage: +7 (if done without shouting "Boot to the Head", damage is reduced to
+2)
Move: ZERO
Cost: 1 Willpower

TRUE BOOT TO THE HEAD Kick OOOOO, Boot to the Head
Power Points : Any 5
After learning the fundamentals of the Boot to the Head, the fighter
can learn the truly devastating manuever of the TRUE BOOT TO THE HEAD. After
shouting out "Boot to the Head", the fighter kicks his opponent in the
head... down below!
System : See "Boot to the Head"
Speed: -5
Damage: +8
Move: One
Cost: 1 Willpower


Steel Toed Boots : Add +2 to "Boot to the Head" and "TRUE BOOT TO THE HEAD"
damages.


and, the most dreaded move of all....
Wang/Dong/Row Brow/Dick! Punch OOO
Power Points : Any 3
Quite simple, but ever so effective. The fighter executes a quick,
short downward punch to the opponents... sensitive region. This move is known
by many names, depending on which area of the world you are in. Most
English/American areas simply refer to it as "Dick!"
The fighter rolls for damage as normal, but dizzy is checked for on
half the opponents Stamina. Obviously, this move works much better against
men. The user of this move receives a -2 Honor, but gains +2 Glory.
Speed: 0
Damage: +2
Move: +0
Cost: Zero

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1209 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
>as you probably all know, Chun Li's outfit is *far* from accurate. >I
>asked her if Chinese acrobats ever wore anything like that and she >asked
>me if I was serious. :p so, now you know. :)

I have a friend from China who practices Wu Shu, & her suit is almost
identacle to Chun Li's. Maybe they only wear it in some parts of China.

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1210 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
>Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit tricky. I know that there's
>one
>in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on the internet. Iknow that
>there's a capoeira database out there.

Why on earth would anyone want to learn Capoeira anyway?

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1211 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
>I SPECALIZE IN CAPOEIRA

Why?

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1212 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
>Dennis Bryant wrote:
>
> > Cool, I used to do sword traning, but it was with medievil weapons, not
> > fencing swords.
>
>Medievil?? On your own or at a school?

Through private clubs. Starting with ratan practice swords.


> > Yeah, some, but I focus mainly on the Japanese styles.
>
>Oh yeah? How come not others?

Well, I'm a devoted Shotokan Karateka, so it's more practicle for me to
focus on related styles. I do know a bit about most martial arts, but most
of it just comes from fighting against them(quite a lot).

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1213 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Boot vs. Nurple Round 1
>Enter Kirtan, the Tai Kwan Leap fighter in the traditional uniform of his
>school. A simple white gi (spelling?)

Well, gi is right for Japanese, but I guess it all depends on where you
decide "Tai kwan leap" came from.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1214 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Ive taken Kenpo Karate, kickboxing, and took a year of Escrima,
shootfighting, knife fighting. (it was all combined into one class). I
haven't taken anything in a few years, but would like to start again. But
the only thing offered here is Judo, or Tai-chi. I dont know jack about
Tai-chi...anyone know much about it?

Thanks

MikeM

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1215 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
>Unfortunately.. I cant buy the hive mentality bit completely.
>because there have been many occasions when the hive had nothing to do
>with the creatures reactions.
>The very first Alien movie was "Alien".
>As in 1 creature.

In creatures which function as a hive(like bees) generally the first
creature in an area which does not allready have a Queen becomes the queen
itself. Therefore, since the alien in "Alien" was the first one in the
area, it probably was a queen & therefore would think for itself. This also
happened in Aliens:genocide.

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1216 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
I dont know jack about
>Tai-chi...anyone know much about it?

Well, Tai Chi is an increadably effective martial art. If you have a spare
45-70 years to actually learn it properly. For the first 30 or so years of
doing it, it's not much more than a really good exercise regiem. (this is
what the currant head of Tai Chi said at a seminar, then proceded to show
the audience what someone, i.e. him, could do if they had mastered Tai Chi)
I personally think that it can be quite a rude martial art, in tearms of
what is done to the opponent.

Dennis


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1217 From: Ryan M Rich Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
There is a school in Portland OR.

RMR

On Mon, 31 May 1999 12:03:55 PDT "Darrick Chen" <dare2live@...>
writes:
>SlpStck-
>
>Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit tricky. I know that
>there's one
>in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on the internet. Iknow
>that
>there's a capoeira database out there.
>
>Kirtan-
>
>Youmay possess the mighty Tae Kwan Leep, but I have knowledge of the
>dreaded
>PURPLE NURPLE of DOOM. Beware.
>
>Steve-
>
>Any sort of throwaway you are offering I will take, for I am getting
>closer
>and closer to starting up New Legends Online for the summer. I am
>going to
>be using ICQ again. In fact, i was trying to dowload itlast night, but
>I got
>off the net after a thuderstorm to end all thunderstorms started up.
>
>Later,
>
>Darrick
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1218 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Tournaments and other stuff.
In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are divided.
Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not to
have them and just have adventures without them.

Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.

So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
make a page of links to street fighters webpages.

I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has any
fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.

Thanks

MikeM



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1219 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
I try to provide a good mix of tournaments and martial arts-movie mayhem. We
only use the ranking system as sort of an abstracted level system, there is
no central "Street Fighter" circuit keeping track of official wins-losses.
As such, many fights that wouldn't be considered "rankable" fights are
listed in the win-loss record. Any fight where one fighter is challenged by
another and a turn or two is given to prepare is recorded as a win or a
loss. Fights with thugs and cops don't count, but the fight with the thug's
boss (who steps down from his crate and takes his shirt off before the
fight) would be recorded.

Besides, it's not called "Tournament Fighter", it's called "STREET Fighter"
so the battles should be fairly impromptu, informal, and happen on the
STREET (or tarmack, or Great Wall of China, or rail yard, or Roman Coliseum,
whatever).

Street Fighter Ultra, my SF Webpage, can be found at
http://members.xoom.com/evilschemer/sfighter/

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On Tuesday, June 01, 1999 9:08 AM, Morgado, Mike [SMTP:MMorgado@...]
wrote:
> In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
> have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are divided.
> Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not
to
> have them and just have adventures without them.
>
> Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
> again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.
>
> So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
> make a page of links to street fighters webpages.
>
> I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has
any
> fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
> video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.
>
> Thanks
>
> MikeM
>
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1220 From: Chris Nelson Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
I'm specialized in 'charge down 2 seconds, up + kick'-Fu

For whoever's counting... figured someone needed to get on & point out
we aren't all taking martial arts. =)
-Laters!
-Chris!


--- MITZPD@... wrote:
> I DO ANY KIND NAME IT I TAKE IT BUT I SPECALIZE IN CAPOEIRA
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1221 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
---"Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...> wrote:

In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are
divided.
Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer
not to
have them and just have adventures without them.

[It really depends on what concepts my players have. If they're
street fighters, then tournaments abound. On the other hand, if they
have other concepts, like spies or mercenaries, then tournaments are
much rarer, but still show up from time to time.]


Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.

[I feel your pain.]

So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
make a page of links to street fighters webpages.

[http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/1062 This may change soon. Geocities
is rapidly running my well of patience dry. If I do switch to
somewhere else, it will probably be XOOM.]

I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone
has any
fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from
the
video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.

[Well, the only SF fanfic (that I finished) is my prologue to my SF
Rules. I think it's pretty spiffy, but I'm not the most objective
reviewer in this case.]

Thanks

MikeM

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1222 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Tai Chi has a lot of bullshit surrounding it. A lot of people are
under the misconception that slow practice will lead to lightning fast
reactions and returns. Well I've got news for them, If you practice
slow, you will react slowly, because that's what all of your time is
spent doing. I think that Tai Chi is an excellent form of excercise,
especially in later years, but you have to be damn good to make it half
as effective as a martial art.

--- Dennis Bryant <dl_bryant@...> wrote:
>
> I dont know jack about
> >Tai-chi...anyone know much about it?
>
> Well, Tai Chi is an increadably effective martial
> art. If you have a spare
> 45-70 years to actually learn it properly. For the
> first 30 or so years of
> doing it, it's not much more than a really good
> exercise regiem. (this is
> what the currant head of Tai Chi said at a seminar,
> then proceded to show
> the audience what someone, i.e. him, could do if
> they had mastered Tai Chi)
> I personally think that it can be quite a rude
> martial art, in tearms of
> what is done to the opponent.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1223 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
to mike m... stick with escrima and shootfighting and knife fighting!
Fighting on the ground is a necessity, as about 98% of all fights go
there.

--- "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...> wrote:
> Ive taken Kenpo Karate, kickboxing, and took a year
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> haven't taken anything in a few years, but would
> like to start again. But
> the only thing offered here is Judo, or Tai-chi. I
> dont know jack about
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1224 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
You should try and find out more abuot Capoeria, Dennis. You might not
be so hasty in judging it. I'm not talking about Only the Strong,
either. Try and find some of the real stuff, there's plenty there that
is useful.

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> >Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit
> tricky. I know that there's
> >one
> >in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on
> the internet. Iknow that
> >there's a capoeira database out there.
>
> Why on earth would anyone want to learn Capoeira
> anyway?
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1225 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Top ten reasons for learning Capoeria
 
1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents
2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever
3 two words: Rolling Attack
4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks
5 two more words: Beast Roll
6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move
7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end
8 there is no #8
9 Brazilian chicks are hot
10 Elena is hot
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Bryant <dl_bryant@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:16 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?

>Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit tricky. I know that there's >one >in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on the internet. Iknow that >there's a capoeira database out there.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1226 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
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From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@...>
To: 'StreetFighter' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Tournaments and other stuff.

In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
have tournaments at all?  Im just curious because my players are divided.
Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not to
have them and just have adventures without them. 

Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.  

So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
make a page of links to street fighters webpages.  

I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has any
fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.

Thanks

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1227 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
most of the time tournaments are used to fit the plot together or just to kill a night when the team wants to boot some head.  Tournaments are indeed informal and I use a mix of "official" circuit along with what was mentioned in the way of seeking out fighters all impromptu-like.  I adhere to the "Flashfire tour" mentality described in the Player's Guide more than anything else.
 
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From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@...>
To: 'StreetFighter' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Tournaments and other stuff.

In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
have tournaments at all?  Im just curious because my players are divided.
Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not to
have them and just have adventures without them. 

Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.  

So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
make a page of links to street fighters webpages.  

I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has any
fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.

Thanks

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1228 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
>>Unfortunately.. I cant buy the hive mentality bit completely.
>>because there have been many occasions when the hive had nothing to do
>>with the creatures reactions.
>>The very first Alien movie was "Alien".
>>As in 1 creature.
>
>In creatures which function as a hive(like bees) generally the first
>creature in an area which does not allready have a Queen becomes the queen
>itself. Therefore, since the alien in "Alien" was the first one in the
>area, it probably was a queen & therefore would think for itself. This
>also
>happened in Aliens:genocide.
>

I really know roughly dick about Aliens but I'm curious, is the hive mind
thing a fact (printed in an Alien book or whatever) or do we simply assume
there is a hivemind 'cos there's a queen, lotsa drones and that they appear
about as gentle and nice as wasps?

Just curious...

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1229 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
I think the hive mind is assumed, and it may have been posited in one of the
Dark Horse comics, which have gone pretty far afield on occasion. I mean, we
ALL know the older Hicks and Newt get stuck on a ship full of Aliens only to
be rescued by the older Ripley, right? And the comics and the movies and the
Aliens:RPG (which is one of the few games I think absolutely sucks, despite
some interesting Alien biology theories) all sync perfectly without
contradiction, right?

Personally, I like the hive mind, and the telepathic nature of the Aliens,
and the theory that they eat sand and glass and act as living batteries,
that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean it's canon.

Of course, the whole purpose and intent of this original thread was to
generate some stats for an Alien or Alien-like Xenomorph that a trained
Street Fighter with fireballs and iceblasts and Yoga Teleports could take on
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On Tuesday, June 01, 1999 4:10 PM, Kristofer Lundström
[SMTP:kri5tofer@...] wrote:
> >>Unfortunately.. I cant buy the hive mentality bit completely.
> >>because there have been many occasions when the hive had nothing to do
> >>with the creatures reactions.
> >>The very first Alien movie was "Alien".
> >>As in 1 creature.
> >
> >In creatures which function as a hive(like bees) generally the first
> >creature in an area which does not allready have a Queen becomes the
queen
> >itself. Therefore, since the alien in "Alien" was the first one in the
> >area, it probably was a queen & therefore would think for itself. This
> >also
> >happened in Aliens:genocide.
> >
>
> I really know roughly dick about Aliens but I'm curious, is the hive mind
> thing a fact (printed in an Alien book or whatever) or do we simply assume

> there is a hivemind 'cos there's a queen, lotsa drones and that they
appear
> about as gentle and nice as wasps?
>
> Just curious...
>
> Kristofer
>
>
> >Dennis
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1230 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Tournaments and other stuff.
I went with the style of tournaments in "High Stakes", although I have
partially regretted it.

* A formal ranking system, maintained by managers and enthusiasts. There's a
dozen homepages which keep track of all the official fighters, their
standing, plus some basic facts.

* Tournaments being held in slightly formal way, varying in size from "Ok,
I'll kick your ass outside, when I've finished this beer" to "And Balrog
will show up and beat Zangief, directly after the Veteran fights, the
Seasoned brawls and the Freshmen's melees... i.e. in three days". The type
that have mattered most in my Chronicle seems to have been those arranged by
jaded rich millionaires or Shadoloo (to keep their fighters sharp or to act
as a diversion).

* If the boss steps down and rips off his shirt, that's *not* a rankable
fight. The figth must be announced and there should be some sort of
audience. Mind you, I don't follow those rules either...

That's how I've been playing, and I'm sure it's not the best way.

Yes, and to those new, and to those who aren't but have forgotten (or
repressed), I have three troupes:

* Group A boots Shadoloo a lot and fight for rank very little.
* Group 2 attend tournaments 2/3 of the stories, and boot Shadoloo during
the breaks.
* Group III spends most of their time running for their lives, mainly from
Shadoloo but also from Gen, triads, Shao Kahn... A little tournament though,
on the side.

Kristofer


>most of the time tournaments are used to fit the plot together or just to
>kill a night when the team wants to boot some head. Tournaments are indeed
>informal and I use a mix of "official" circuit along with what was
>mentioned in the way of seeking out fighters all impromptu-like. I adhere
>to the "Flashfire tour" mentality described in the Player's Guide more than
>anything else.
>

>In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
>have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are divided.
>Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not
>to
>have them and just have adventures without them.
>
>Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
>again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.
>
>So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
>make a page of links to street fighters webpages.
>
>I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has
>any
>fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
>video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.
>
>Thanks
>
>MikeM


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1231 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
I take your word for it, but personally I'm not that keen on the hive mind.
Hm... let's define hive mind shall we.

Are we talking about a telepathic race who communicate with a supreme being
of its race (queen) which can control the lesser minions (drones) in some
circumstances? (example: GW's Tyranids)

Or would your average beehive count as a hive mind.

Or are we talking about "one mind - a zillion bodies all over the place".
(er... no examples)

If put like that, I would put the aliens in the "beehive" category. Input?

Kristofer

P.S. And where would you put the Arachnids from Starship Troopers?


>I think the hive mind is assumed, and it may have been posited in one of
>the
>Dark Horse comics, which have gone pretty far afield on occasion. I mean,
>we
>ALL know the older Hicks and Newt get stuck on a ship full of Aliens only
>to
>be rescued by the older Ripley, right? And the comics and the movies and
>the
>Aliens:RPG (which is one of the few games I think absolutely sucks, despite
>some interesting Alien biology theories) all sync perfectly without
>contradiction, right?
>
>Personally, I like the hive mind, and the that sort of stuff. That doesn't
>mean it's canon.
>
>Of course, the whole purpose and intent of this original thread was to
>generate some stats for an Alien or Alien-like Xenomorph that a trained
>Street Fighter with fireballs and iceblasts and Yoga Teleports could
>telepathic nature of the Aliens,
>and the theory that they eat sand and glass and act as living
>batteries,take on
>in a "Bloodsport-in-Space" story in an alien Space Station arena.
>
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>Web Development Specialist
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>


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Subject: OH YES...
And by the way...

Seems like someone out there has GOT THE HOTS FOR DEATH (spoken with the
warmth and colour of iceberg).

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1233 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/1/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Technically, the concept of a "hive mind" is based on the premise that an
insect colony is not merely the analogue of an organism, but is an organism,
20,000 insects united and behaving like a unitary whole, "maintaining its
identity in space, resisting dissolution ...neither a thing nor a concept,
but a continual flux or process" (Morton Wheeler, "The Ant Colony as an
Organism", 1911).

Think of all the cells in our body. Skin cells, brain cells, blood cells,
glial cells, each with it's own nucleus and each could be considered an
"organism", but each cell works together to the point that no single cell is
truly independent. Each cell relies on the other cell to survive. All the
cells are mostly under the control of the brain and it's cells, not to
mention the clockwork mechanisms of the body's systems.

The Alien hive mind would be similar. Albeit each alien is a distinct
organism, they are all interdependent on the other, and difference Aliens
are specialized for different tasks. Without all the seperate specialized
units working together under the direction and cohesion of the Queen, the
hive and it's individual units would quickly die, much as if you cut all the
cells of your arm away from the rest of the body.

What makes an Alien (or any other Hive Mind) different, however, is the
relative independence and mobility granted to the individual units. Whereas
your arm cells are relatively dependant on your blood and nerves and are
immobile, the bees or Aliens are able to survive and act on their own for
much longer due to their independence and mobility. Ultimately, however, the
isolated bee or ant or Alien will die because it isn't truly independent.

Hive Minds in science don't require telepathy. In bees and ants, the queen
maintains control through pheromones and instinctual programming in the
drones and workers. Drones and Workers are simply robots with built-in
programming that is activated by pheromone combinations.

In a science fiction context, the hive mind can represent a sharing of
consciousness, like the Borg Collective, in which all individual units think
with one mind, like all the nucleuses of all the cells in your body acting
as a very widely distributed brain; or a telepathic control on the part of
the queen, which ST: First Contact and Voyager have now used for the Borg.

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On Tuesday, June 01, 1999 4:47 PM, Kristofer Lundström
[SMTP:kri5tofer@...] wrote:
> I take your word for it, but personally I'm not that keen on the hive
mind.
> Hm... let's define hive mind shall we.
>
> Are we talking about a telepathic race who communicate with a supreme
being
> of its race (queen) which can control the lesser minions (drones) in some
> circumstances? (example: GW's Tyranids)
>
> Or would your average beehive count as a hive mind.
>
> Or are we talking about "one mind - a zillion bodies all over the place".

> (er... no examples)
>
> If put like that, I would put the aliens in the "beehive" category. Input?
>
> Kristofer
>
> P.S. And where would you put the Arachnids from Starship Troopers?
>
>
> >I think the hive mind is assumed, and it may have been posited in one of
> >the
> >Dark Horse comics, which have gone pretty far afield on occasion. I mean,

> >we
> >ALL know the older Hicks and Newt get stuck on a ship full of Aliens only

> >to
> >be rescued by the older Ripley, right? And the comics and the movies and
> >the
> >Aliens:RPG (which is one of the few games I think absolutely sucks,
despite
> >some interesting Alien biology theories) all sync perfectly without
> >contradiction, right?
> >
> >Personally, I like the hive mind, and the that sort of stuff. That
doesn't
> >mean it's canon.
> >
> >Of course, the whole purpose and intent of this original thread was to
> >generate some stats for an Alien or Alien-like Xenomorph that a trained
> >Street Fighter with fireballs and iceblasts and Yoga Teleports could
> >telepathic nature of the Aliens,
> >and the theory that they eat sand and glass and act as living
> >batteries,take on
> >in a "Bloodsport-in-Space" story in an alien Space Station arena.
> >
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> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1234 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: OH YES...
In a message dated 6/1/99 5:57:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kri5tofer@... writes:

<< And by the way...

Seems like someone out there has GOT THE HOTS FOR DEATH (spoken with the
warmth and colour of iceberg).

Kristofer ;) >>
i think/hope i speak for every one else when i say, HUH????

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1235 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
>1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents
>2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever
>3 two words: Rolling Attack
>4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks
>5 two more words: Beast Roll
>6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move
>7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end
>8 there is no #8
>9 Brazilian chicks are hot
>10 Elena is hot

I meant real capoeria.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1236 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
>I really know roughly dick about Aliens but I'm curious, is the hive mind
>thing a fact (printed in an Alien book or whatever) or do we simply assume
>there is a hivemind 'cos there's a queen, lotsa drones and that they appear
>about as gentle and nice as wasps?
>
>Just curious...
>
> Kristofer

Well, in the comics, it often states that they have a hive mind.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1237 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: OH YES...
> Seems like someone out there has GOT THE HOTS FOR DEATH (spoken with the
> warmth and colour of iceberg).

What the hell is that about?

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1238 From: Ryan M Rich Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken fighters, after a
real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in some Playstation
magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to get camera and
computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy doing Capoeira here
in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is very unusual to defend
against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating and an odd picture)
putting kicks right past the head of a friend of mine at a party. I was
leaning on the car with J.R.

11: Handstands are cool.
12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance
13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering dance really.)
14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your ass
8: Hot chicks! Hot pants!
15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba,


Sorry for this

This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of you use
Martial arts terms like you really learned something from a martial
artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites. Even half jokingly (or
obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish and if so many of us
have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out styles, come on be real.
Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does not a martial artist
make.
I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have seen
Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and other martial artists
in action. I've also been in a tournament. Sounds impressive, wow! But I
took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem most of these
masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack (and most of us do
too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting methods. And how many
of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of a few of the more
esoteric or small styles out there 'til searching for Street Fighter
stuff.



On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:55:45 PDT "Dennis Bryant" <dl_bryant@...>
writes:
>>1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents
>>2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever
>>3 two words: Rolling Attack
>>4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks
>>5 two more words: Beast Roll
>>6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move
>>7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end
>>8 there is no #8
>>9 Brazilian chicks are hot
>>10 Elena is hot
>
>I meant real capoeria.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1239 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Sorry to bust your bubble, but if a guy has practiced for 10 years, it
dosen't mean that he is god. Likewise, I have seen teachers who are so
down to earth that their students are relatively competent after only a
few months. It depends on what is taught and how, not for how long. I
know one instructor on the west coast who was so tough on his students
that making it past a white belt was like a dream come true. He would
actually hand out black belts for tournaments so that his students
could compete in a higher division, and they won many of them against
"real" black belts. Personally, I don't give a shit what belt somebody
is, because you always hear about the street brawler beating up the
martial artist with a haymaker and constant wailing. Practice wrong,
and you won't be prepared.

--- Ryan M Rich <leonardsmalls@...> wrote:
> Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken
> fighters, after a
> real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in
> some Playstation
> magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to
> get camera and
> computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy
> doing Capoeira here
> in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is
> very unusual to defend
> against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating
> and an odd picture)
> putting kicks right past the head of a friend of
> mine at a party. I was
> leaning on the car with J.R.
>
> 11: Handstands are cool.
> 12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance
> 13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering
> dance really.)
> 14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your
> ass
> 8: Hot chicks! Hot pants!
> 15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba,
>
>
> Sorry for this
>
> This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of
> you use
> Martial arts terms like you really learned something
> from a martial
> artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites.
> Even half jokingly (or
> obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish
> and if so many of us
> have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out
> styles, come on be real.
> Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does
> not a martial artist
> make.
> I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have
> seen
> Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and
> other martial artists
> in action. I've also been in a tournament. Sounds
> impressive, wow! But I
> took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem
> most of these
> masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack
> (and most of us do
> too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting
> methods. And how many
> of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of
> a few of the more
> esoteric or small styles out there 'til searching
> for Street Fighter
> stuff.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:55:45 PDT "Dennis Bryant"
> <dl_bryant@...>
> writes:
> >>1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your
> opponents
> >>2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken
> button-masher ever
> >>3 two words: Rolling Attack
> >>4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks
> >>5 two more words: Beast Roll
> >>6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives
> your Grabs a Two Move
> >>7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys
> everyone to no end
> >>8 there is no #8
> >>9 Brazilian chicks are hot
> >>10 Elena is hot
> >
> >I meant real capoeria.
> >
> >Dennis
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1240 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
I was being obviously sarcastic.  Personally I don't believe any stylist should be insulted for the style he practices (unless it's TKD... just kidding :) and while real-life experience in the arts can make your SF game more real for your players, it's about as necessary as knowing exactly how a Whirlwind Kick is performed.  Don't forget that this mailing list is for Street Fighter first and foremost, an RPG based in a *fantasy* martial arts setting.  I may never have seen a Thai kickboxer compete in person, but I've seen enough anime to know how it *could* look in a make-believe world, and that's enough for me.
 
nipper of flame-wars' buds,
Steve
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan M Rich <leonardsmalls@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:18 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?

	Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken fighters, after a
real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in some Playstation
magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to get camera and
computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy doing Capoeira here
in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is very unusual to defend
against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating and an odd picture)
putting kicks right past the head of a friend of mine at a party. I was
leaning on the car with J.R.

	11: Handstands are cool.
	12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance
	13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering dance really.)
	14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your ass
	8: Hot chicks! Hot pants!
	15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba, 


Sorry for this

	This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of you use
Martial arts terms like you really learned something from a martial
artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites. Even half jokingly (or
obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish and if so many of us
have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out styles, come on be real.
Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does not a martial artist
make.
	I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have seen
Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and other martial artists
in action. I've also been  in a tournament. Sounds impressive, wow! But I
took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem most of these
masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack (and most of us do
too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting methods. And how many
of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of a few of the more
esoteric or small styles out there 'til searching for Street Fighter
stuff.



On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:55:45 PDT "Dennis Bryant" <dl_bryant@...>
writes:
>>1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents >>2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever >>3 two words: Rolling Attack >>4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks >>5 two more words: Beast Roll >>6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move >>7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end >>8 there is no #8 >>9 Brazilian chicks are hot >>10 Elena is hot > >I meant real capoeria. > >Dennis > > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >BrainPlay.com has all of your favorite Star Wars action figures, >toys, video games and more. See details inside on how to receive a >FREE Star Wars Action Figure! “Feel the Force” today with >BrainPlay.com at: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/321 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1241 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
>Sorry to bust your bubble, but if a guy has practiced for 10 years, it
>dosen't mean that he is god. Likewise, I have seen teachers who are so
>down to earth that their students are relatively competent after only a
>few months. It depends on what is taught and how, not for how long. I
>know one instructor on the west coast who was so tough on his students
>that making it past a white belt was like a dream come true. He would
>actually hand out black belts for tournaments so that his students
>could compete in a higher division, and they won many of them against
>"real" black belts. Personally, I don't give a shit what belt somebody
>is, because you always hear about the street brawler beating up the
>martial artist with a haymaker and constant wailing. Practice wrong,
>and you won't be prepared.

This reminds me of a tale about the Swedish Tae Kwon Do champ getting
floored by an "hobby" boxer, in one single blow. Life is hard.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1242 From: Kristofer Lundstr�m Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: OH YES...
><< And by the way...
>
> Seems like someone out there has GOT THE HOTS FOR DEATH (spoken with the
> warmth and colour of iceberg).
>
> Kristofer ;) >>
>
>i think/hope i speak for every one else when i say, HUH????
>
>
>What the hell is that about?
>
>Dennis

Er... well... u'see... nevermind.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1243 From: Eric Thayer Date: 6/2/1999
Subject: Re: Fantastic Pragmatism
Hear! Hear!
And don't worry, I don't see TKD as the most divine art in the world. It was
simply the most readily available in my area, and my Stepfather had his
spiritual revelations while living in Korea so it was his art of choice to
place me in. TKD taught me discipline, it also taught me that discipline
without reason is the ideaology of a cockroach - or an alien. "Ours is not
to question why" -my ass.

-Kirtan


>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?
>Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:03:28 -0400
>
>I was being obviously sarcastic. Personally I don't believe any stylist
>should be insulted for the style he practices (unless it's TKD... just
>kidding :) and while real-life experience in the arts can make your SF game
>more real for your players, it's about as necessary as knowing exactly how
>a Whirlwind Kick is performed. Don't forget that this mailing list is for
>Street Fighter first and foremost, an RPG based in a *fantasy* martial arts
>setting. I may never have seen a Thai kickboxer compete in person, but
>I've seen enough anime to know how it *could* look in a make-believe world,
>and that's enough for me.
>
>nipper of flame-wars' buds,
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1244 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Online Combat
For those of you who are playing/played in the online SF game, how do you
run combat online? This just donned on me last night, and I havent been
able to figure out how it would be done.
Thanks for your help

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1245 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Online Combat
 
well, system changes based on storyteller preference aside, we actually do it a lot like you would in person, using the honor system when dice-rolling (which we actually do at our desks... drives the cat nuts. hehe).  The level of detail is dependant on both storyteller and players... to keep things rolling the slower typists tend to only type what's needed.  I, on the other hand, being a verbose little bastard, do a lot of narrative about what my character is doing.
 
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From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@...>
To: 'StreetFighter' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 8:44 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Online Combat

For those of you who are playing/played in the online SF game, how do you
run combat online?  This just donned on me last night, and I havent been
able to figure out how it would be done.
Thanks for your help

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1246 From: Christian Conkle Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Storyteller System Dice Mechanic Statistical Analysis
I have just posted a Storyteller System Dice Mechanic Statistical Analysis
that displays the percentage chance of beating a specific difficulty by
throwing a specific number of dice at Street Fighter Ultra
(http://members.xoom.com/evilschemer/sfighter). Also included is the average
number of successes rolled (taking 1's into account) at various dice vs.
difficulties.

The chart compares all the difficulties from 1 (autmatic) to 10 (very
difficult) vs. 1 (poor) to 13 (superhuman) dice thrown.

Hmm, come to think of it, it is within the realm of game mechanic
possibility that someone could throw up to 16 dice or more (8 stat + 8 skill
+ more from maneuvers).

Oh well, 13 is a pretty good upper limit, I think.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1247 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Alien and Predator.
Hey.

Nope no comment there.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 that's why I said 3.  that, in my opinion, is the upper limit.  can a Predator juggle effectively?  Dex 4 characters are very coordinated, to the extent of being a stage magician or performer.  I wouldn't argue with someone dropping a stat a level or two, because even humans have widely differing stats.  that's just on the average.
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From: Tom Pascuttini <galactus@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 11:45 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Alien and Predator.
 Hey steve. Like I said before. I have do disagree.
The predators are quite dexterious. The climb trees and walls extremely well.
And can naviget thru tree tops like a monkey almost.
And Im not reffering to there jumping ability which would be covered by Athletics.
But I beleive are answer would be a mix of 2 or 3. Sticking a being at 1 stat is rather static.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 yes, but a Dex 3 is considered "quite" dextrous.  Two is average, so three is above average without being superhuman which, I'm sorry to say, Predators are not. :)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1248 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Ahh youll have to pardon me. but where do you live?
Your friend might know the location of other teachers.

Will Dixon wrote:

> I've got a friend in Memphis who teaches Capoeria.
>
> --- Tom Pascuttini <galactus@...> wrote:
> > Wow alot of people here have practiced diffrent
> > martial arts.
> > If you want to find a Capoeria school in your area
> > you can try calling the
> > brazilian
> > consulat. I beleive thats it.
> >
> > SlpStck@... wrote:
> >
> > > well, i took shorinryu karate for about two years,
> > then switched to an
> > > indonesian style very few people have heard of,
> > that my sensei had also
> > > learned. stopped taken for awhile, then tried to
> > get into tae kwon do, but
> > > couldn't... oh well. i want to find some place
> > that teaches capoeria, but i
> > > haven't made much success in finding one.
> > >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1249 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Hey again.

(Laugh)

Yah. Wu shu is more like a sport like gymnastics. but there is application to it and some schools apparently do teach applicable wushu.
One of the key arguments in Wu shu is modern Wu shu Vs Old style.

The modern looks better but the older style works.

It seems capcom makes up alot of things but I still like it.
It works good for me.

Well, we all know the folks at Capcom don't know jack about martial styles. ;) 
 Wu Shu is indeed the government-sanctioned form of Kung Fu and according to a book on it I've got, the two are referred to interchangeably, depending on who you're talking to (this book I've got lists Tai Chi as a variant of wushu and not gongfu).  Wu Shu as practiced in school (from what she's told me) is kinda like a softened version of the art; they teach the stances and moves but not how to fight, kinda like tae bo and ki bo aerobic classes here in the States.  Wushu literally means "war art". I asked her if Chun Li's costume was accurate at all, maybe it was a performance getup or an acrobat's costume, but she said she'd never seen anything like it, and that it was probably a stereotype. -----Original Message-----
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:01 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial arts
 :)
It s interesting you should say that about Chun Li's Uniform.
I managed to get in contact with someone at Capcom and they told me that chun Li's
style is only kung Fu.
An interesting thing about Wu shu is that
Can you ask your girlfriend  If costumes like that actually exist or is that is an Wu shu
Costume. From what Ive seen Wu Shu Competitors only have two Uniforms.
A silk uniform. And a dark short sleved Uniform for a style called Nan Chuan.

The same sortof goes for Kabbadi. Actual Kabbadi is an Indian Game. Not a martial art. A rather interesting Game.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 sad to say, the only real experience I have with martial arts is from SF, but I have picked up bits and pieces about various styles from everywhere.  Still, my girlfriend is from China and she knows more than I do (much more) since she is an avid fan of the Dragon Princess and other martial-arts novels/series.  She also had to practice Wu Shu as part of her physical education in school when she was younger. On a related note, she loves SFII V because of its, in her opinion, remarkable similarity to the epic martial-arts novels/series of novels she used to read.  We watched half(!) the series last night and she's dying to see how it comes out.  Second, as you probably all know, Chun Li's outfit is *far* from accurate.  I asked her if Chinese acrobats ever wore anything like that and she asked me if I was serious. :p so, now you know. :) soon as I can get her to overcome her insecurity about her English, she may join my campaign.  Right now, she just watches.  :)



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1250 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Hmmmm. Its possible. I was thinking it might be dependant on the style.
Are you still in contact with her?

Dennis Bryant wrote:

> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> >as you probably all know, Chun Li's outfit is *far* from accurate. >I
> >asked her if Chinese acrobats ever wore anything like that and she >asked
> >me if I was serious. :p so, now you know. :)
>
> I have a friend from China who practices Wu Shu, & her suit is almost
> identacle to Chun Li's. Maybe they only wear it in some parts of China.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1251 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial Arts?
Hey Dennis

Well, the same reason people would want to learn Wu Shu.
Capoeria is a peice of culture to brazilians. and capoerists are some of the
most agile people Ive seen.
Theres lots of reason even besides the above.

Dennis Bryant wrote:

> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> >Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit tricky. I know that there's
> >one
> >in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on the internet. Iknow that
> >there's a capoeira database out there.
>
> Why on earth would anyone want to learn Capoeira anyway?
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1252 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martial arts
Hey Dennis

> >Dennis Bryant wrote:
> >
> > > Cool, I used to do sword traning, but it was with medievil weapons, not
> > > fencing swords.
> >
> >Medievil?? On your own or at a school?

> Through private clubs. Starting with ratan practice swords.

You mean like Kendo and such, right?

>
> > > Yeah, some, but I focus mainly on the Japanese styles.
> >
> >Oh yeah? How come not others?
>
> Well, I'm a devoted Shotokan Karateka, so it's more practicle for me to
> focus on related styles. I do know a bit about most martial arts, but most
> of it just comes from fighting against them(quite a lot).

Yah I agree.
??You fight against other styles alot?


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1253 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Martia Arts?
Hey Mike

"Morgado, Mike" wrote:

> Ive taken Kenpo Karate, kickboxing, and took a year of Escrima,
> shootfighting, knife fighting. (it was all combined into one class). I
> haven't taken anything in a few years, but would like to start again. But
> the only thing offered here is Judo, or Tai-chi. I dont know jack about
> Tai-chi...anyone know much about it?

Yah In know a little.
Just like most styles theres diffrent aspects of Tai Chi...Yang style(I
beleive.)
is one.
Tai Chi does amost of its movements slowly but by the time you finish a class
you will probably be sweating. It s movments are based upon nature( i think
thats right.)
and the movments promote breathing and gets circulation going.
Tai chi also has a weapon...Tai Chi Sword.
There is also partner practice...called push hands.
Tai chi'st can move like water and be very flexible but Ive seen fast moves
in tai chi and when you see them its like the wind snaping.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1254 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/3/1999
Subject: Re: Aliens
Yah thats true.ok. No disagreement here.

Dennis Bryant wrote:

>
> In creatures which function as a hive(like bees) generally the first
> creature in an area which does not allready have a Queen becomes the queen
> itself. Therefore, since the alien in "Alien" was the first one in the
> area, it probably was a queen & therefore would think for itself. This also
> happened in Aliens:genocide.
>
> Dennis


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