--- In streetfighter@y..., "mean_liar" <mean_liar@h...> wrote:
> I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
>
> Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique to
his
> Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its not
> in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of their
> way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
>
> Tumbling Attack to Tumbling Attack (dizzy!)

> I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
>
> Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique to his
> Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its not
> in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of their
> way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.

> Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a

--- In streetfighter@y..., "mean_liar" <mean_liar@h...> wrote:
> > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> blooper and > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't
> clarify later when the PG > came out.
>
>
> Weapons were in the Main Rulebook, as well as weapon modifiers.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "mean_liar" <mean_liar@h...> wrote:
> > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> blooper and > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't
> clarify later when the PG > came out.
>
>
> Weapons were in the Main Rulebook, as well as weapon modifiers.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "galin_ra" <randerssen@h...> wrote:
> Hmmmm.. The extensive weapons rules didn't come out befor
contenders. ^_^
>
>
> -----Ronin-----
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "mean_liar" <mean_liar@h...> wrote:

> > Weapons were in the Main Rulebook, as well as weapon modifiers.

> > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> >
> > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique to his
> > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its not
> > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of their
> > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
>
> Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a blooper and
> they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later when the PG
> came out.

----- Original Message -----
From: The King of Chickens 2001
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights

Ahh...here's where the oversight stemmed from.
Secrets of Shadoloo came out before Player's Guide. The rulings for weapon
skills are in Player's Guide, so therefore they HAD to find someway to make
sure Vega has a weapon to count.
Whhen Ryu blocks this move he reduces Vega's damage dice by 10 (block +
stamina). The less you have, the more likely you botch. I don't think Vega
can last very long on his Tumbling Attack on just 1-3 dice. ^_^

>> Well, Vega's Tumbling Attack doesn't do that huge damage in the videogame
anyhow so blocking it's 11 dice with a 10 soak would seem to be pretty
accuration. However, Ryu can't beat Vega on tie break with a combo Tumbling
Attack (speed 9) so it will defeat the speed of his Block in many cases.

Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> > > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> > >
> > > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique
to his
> > > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its
not
> > > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of
their
> > > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
> >
> > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
blooper and
> > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later
when the PG
> > came out.
>
> I figure they mean the weapon damage modifier.
> There is no "Claw Technique" thus it seems quite obvious that you
should use
> what they give you: the Claw Modifiers. Understanding the rules of
the game,
> there is no instance where you should add two techniques plus an
attribute
> together. Otherwise, behold my fighter with his Jab damage being:
Strength +
> Punch + Sword Tech + Sword Modifiers + Jab Modifiers. Be afraid!
>
> I feel to interpret it that way is misreading the paragraph (page
22 of
> Secrets of Shadoloo). However, it is written in a way that a bit of
thinking
> is necessary (as it's not very clear and can easily be miscontrued
as being
> quite horrific).
> I shall attempt to go over this confusing entry and make some sense
of it:
>
> Quote:
> "VEGA'S CLAW:
>
> Vega frequently employs a claw when in combat. He prefers this
> weapon over all others, primarily because it does not interfere with
> his many throws and holds.
>
> New Weapon - Claw: +1 Speed, +1 Damage, +0 Move
>
> Special: Vega can use Grab Techniques while using his claw. The
> maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage of his Tumbling Roll
> and his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches). His dots
> in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll."
>
> First Point:
> "The maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage" - What
maneuver? Do
> they mean Claw Technique, Claw Modifiers, Grab Technique?
> Obviously, the author isn't writing what he means (conveying his
intent)
> because this makes no sense. No maneuver was mentioned. Thus "The
maneuver"
> refers to nothing.
> I would like to make a motion to decide that the author is not in
fact
> talking about a maneuver but something else.
>
> Second Point:
> "his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches)." - This would
seem to
> indicate that he cannot Punch. Therefore, his Punch is actually his
Claw
> Technique. (We know from the videogame that he actually can Punch,
just not
> that awesomely.)
>
> Third Point:
> "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - As the
author
> didn't actually seem to mean "maneuver" when he stated "maneuver"
under my
> first point, I would like to move that he doesn't actually mean
Technique
> here, but in fact, redundantly, his Claw Modifiers. Previously
stated, his
> three strikes replace his Punches which means that his Punch is
actually his
> Claw Technique. It doesn't make much sense to add that Technique to
itself
> again.
> "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - Wow?
To all of
> his attacks? To take this at face value, that's what it means. I do
firmly
> believe that this is simply redudancy, actually meaning to add the
Claw
> Weapon modifiers (+1,+1,+0) to his Tumbling Attack (Str +
Athletics) and to
> his three punches (Str + Punch - or claw if you prefer to call it
that).
>
> Clearly, the author didn't understand the meaning of the words he
was using
> (typos or Freudian slips (sp?) perhaps).
> With much thinking on the subject, I am confident that the above
was what he
> trying to say.
> Regardless, I just want to beseech the members of this list before
they do
> anything rash such as taking this entry from the book at face value:
>
> Use caution.
> Use discretion.
>
> Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
> Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/

----- Original Message -----
From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:24
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights


> very good points, all.
> your oppinion on this makes a good house rule.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> > > > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> > > >
> > > > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique
> to his
> > > > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its
> not
> > > > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > > > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > > > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of
> their
> > > > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > > > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
> > >
> > > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> blooper and
> > > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later
> when the PG
> > > came out.
> >
> > I figure they mean the weapon damage modifier.
> > There is no "Claw Technique" thus it seems quite obvious that you
> should use
> > what they give you: the Claw Modifiers. Understanding the rules of
> the game,
> > there is no instance where you should add two techniques plus an
> attribute
> > together. Otherwise, behold my fighter with his Jab damage being:
> Strength +
> > Punch + Sword Tech + Sword Modifiers + Jab Modifiers. Be afraid!
> >
> > I feel to interpret it that way is misreading the paragraph (page
> 22 of
> > Secrets of Shadoloo). However, it is written in a way that a bit of
> thinking
> > is necessary (as it's not very clear and can easily be miscontrued
> as being
> > quite horrific).
> > I shall attempt to go over this confusing entry and make some sense
> of it:
> >
> > Quote:
> > "VEGA'S CLAW:
> >
> > Vega frequently employs a claw when in combat. He prefers this
> > weapon over all others, primarily because it does not interfere with
> > his many throws and holds.
> >
> > New Weapon - Claw: +1 Speed, +1 Damage, +0 Move
> >
> > Special: Vega can use Grab Techniques while using his claw. The
> > maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage of his Tumbling Roll
> > and his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches). His dots
> > in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll."
> >
> > First Point:
> > "The maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage" - What
> maneuver? Do
> > they mean Claw Technique, Claw Modifiers, Grab Technique?
> > Obviously, the author isn't writing what he means (conveying his
> intent)
> > because this makes no sense. No maneuver was mentioned. Thus "The
> maneuver"
> > refers to nothing.
> > I would like to make a motion to decide that the author is not in
> fact
> > talking about a maneuver but something else.
> >
> > Second Point:
> > "his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches)." - This would
> seem to
> > indicate that he cannot Punch. Therefore, his Punch is actually his
> Claw
> > Technique. (We know from the videogame that he actually can Punch,
> just not
> > that awesomely.)
> >
> > Third Point:
> > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - As the
> author
> > didn't actually seem to mean "maneuver" when he stated "maneuver"
> under my
> > first point, I would like to move that he doesn't actually mean
> Technique
> > here, but in fact, redundantly, his Claw Modifiers. Previously
> stated, his
> > three strikes replace his Punches which means that his Punch is
> actually his
> > Claw Technique. It doesn't make much sense to add that Technique to
> itself
> > again.
> > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - Wow?
> To all of
> > his attacks? To take this at face value, that's what it means. I do
> firmly
> > believe that this is simply redudancy, actually meaning to add the
> Claw
> > Weapon modifiers (+1,+1,+0) to his Tumbling Attack (Str +
> Athletics) and to
> > his three punches (Str + Punch - or claw if you prefer to call it
> that).
> >
> > Clearly, the author didn't understand the meaning of the words he
> was using
> > (typos or Freudian slips (sp?) perhaps).
> > With much thinking on the subject, I am confident that the above
> was what he
> > trying to say.
> > Regardless, I just want to beseech the members of this list before
> they do
> > anything rash such as taking this entry from the book at face value:
> >
> > Use caution.
> > Use discretion.
> >
> > Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
> > Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:24
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights


> very good points, all.
> your oppinion on this makes a good house rule.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> > > > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> > > >
> > > > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique
> to his
> > > > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its
> not
> > > > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > > > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > > > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of
> their
> > > > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > > > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
> > >
> > > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> blooper and
> > > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later
> when the PG
> > > came out.
> >
> > I figure they mean the weapon damage modifier.
> > There is no "Claw Technique" thus it seems quite obvious that you
> should use
> > what they give you: the Claw Modifiers. Understanding the rules of
> the game,
> > there is no instance where you should add two techniques plus an
> attribute
> > together. Otherwise, behold my fighter with his Jab damage being:
> Strength +
> > Punch + Sword Tech + Sword Modifiers + Jab Modifiers. Be afraid!
> >
> > I feel to interpret it that way is misreading the paragraph (page
> 22 of
> > Secrets of Shadoloo). However, it is written in a way that a bit of
> thinking
> > is necessary (as it's not very clear and can easily be miscontrued
> as being
> > quite horrific).
> > I shall attempt to go over this confusing entry and make some sense
> of it:
> >
> > Quote:
> > "VEGA'S CLAW:
> >
> > Vega frequently employs a claw when in combat. He prefers this
> > weapon over all others, primarily because it does not interfere with
> > his many throws and holds.
> >
> > New Weapon - Claw: +1 Speed, +1 Damage, +0 Move
> >
> > Special: Vega can use Grab Techniques while using his claw. The
> > maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage of his Tumbling Roll
> > and his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches). His dots
> > in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll."
> >
> > First Point:
> > "The maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage" - What
> maneuver? Do
> > they mean Claw Technique, Claw Modifiers, Grab Technique?
> > Obviously, the author isn't writing what he means (conveying his
> intent)
> > because this makes no sense. No maneuver was mentioned. Thus "The
> maneuver"
> > refers to nothing.
> > I would like to make a motion to decide that the author is not in
> fact
> > talking about a maneuver but something else.
> >
> > Second Point:
> > "his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches)." - This would
> seem to
> > indicate that he cannot Punch. Therefore, his Punch is actually his
> Claw
> > Technique. (We know from the videogame that he actually can Punch,
> just not
> > that awesomely.)
> >
> > Third Point:
> > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - As the
> author
> > didn't actually seem to mean "maneuver" when he stated "maneuver"
> under my
> > first point, I would like to move that he doesn't actually mean
> Technique
> > here, but in fact, redundantly, his Claw Modifiers. Previously
> stated, his
> > three strikes replace his Punches which means that his Punch is
> actually his
> > Claw Technique. It doesn't make much sense to add that Technique to
> itself
> > again.
> > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - Wow?
> To all of
> > his attacks? To take this at face value, that's what it means. I do
> firmly
> > believe that this is simply redudancy, actually meaning to add the
> Claw
> > Weapon modifiers (+1,+1,+0) to his Tumbling Attack (Str +
> Athletics) and to
> > his three punches (Str + Punch - or claw if you prefer to call it
> that).
> >
> > Clearly, the author didn't understand the meaning of the words he
> was using
> > (typos or Freudian slips (sp?) perhaps).
> > With much thinking on the subject, I am confident that the above
> was what he
> > trying to say.
> > Regardless, I just want to beseech the members of this list before
> they do
> > anything rash such as taking this entry from the book at face value:
> >
> > Use caution.
> > Use discretion.
> >
> > Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
> > Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <confucius@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:53
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights


> I don't believe that thi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@...>
> To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:24
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights
>
>
> > very good points, all.
> > your oppinion on this makes a good house rule.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> > > > > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique
> > to his
> > > > > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its
> > not
> > > > > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > > > > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > > > > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of
> > their
> > > > > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > > > > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
> > > >
> > > > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> > blooper and
> > > > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later
> > when the PG
> > > > came out.
> > >
> > > I figure they mean the weapon damage modifier.
> > > There is no "Claw Technique" thus it seems quite obvious that you
> > should use
> > > what they give you: the Claw Modifiers. Understanding the rules of
> > the game,
> > > there is no instance where you should add two techniques plus an
> > attribute
> > > together. Otherwise, behold my fighter with his Jab damage being:
> > Strength +
> > > Punch + Sword Tech + Sword Modifiers + Jab Modifiers. Be afraid!
> > >
> > > I feel to interpret it that way is misreading the paragraph (page
> > 22 of
> > > Secrets of Shadoloo). However, it is written in a way that a bit of
> > thinking
> > > is necessary (as it's not very clear and can easily be miscontrued
> > as being
> > > quite horrific).
> > > I shall attempt to go over this confusing entry and make some sense
> > of it:
> > >
> > > Quote:
> > > "VEGA'S CLAW:
> > >
> > > Vega frequently employs a claw when in combat. He prefers this
> > > weapon over all others, primarily because it does not interfere with
> > > his many throws and holds.
> > >
> > > New Weapon - Claw: +1 Speed, +1 Damage, +0 Move
> > >
> > > Special: Vega can use Grab Techniques while using his claw. The
> > > maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage of his Tumbling Roll
> > > and his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches). His dots
> > > in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll."
> > >
> > > First Point:
> > > "The maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage" - What
> > maneuver? Do
> > > they mean Claw Technique, Claw Modifiers, Grab Technique?
> > > Obviously, the author isn't writing what he means (conveying his
> > intent)
> > > because this makes no sense. No maneuver was mentioned. Thus "The
> > maneuver"
> > > refers to nothing.
> > > I would like to make a motion to decide that the author is not in
> > fact
> > > talking about a maneuver but something else.
> > >
> > > Second Point:
> > > "his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches)." - This would
> > seem to
> > > indicate that he cannot Punch. Therefore, his Punch is actually his
> > Claw
> > > Technique. (We know from the videogame that he actually can Punch,
> > just not
> > > that awesomely.)
> > >
> > > Third Point:
> > > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - As the
> > author
> > > didn't actually seem to mean "maneuver" when he stated "maneuver"
> > under my
> > > first point, I would like to move that he doesn't actually mean
> > Technique
> > > here, but in fact, redundantly, his Claw Modifiers. Previously
> > stated, his
> > > three strikes replace his Punches which means that his Punch is
> > actually his
> > > Claw Technique. It doesn't make much sense to add that Technique to
> > itself
> > > again.
> > > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - Wow?
> > To all of
> > > his attacks? To take this at face value, that's what it means. I do
> > firmly
> > > believe that this is simply redudancy, actually meaning to add the
> > Claw
> > > Weapon modifiers (+1,+1,+0) to his Tumbling Attack (Str +
> > Athletics) and to
> > > his three punches (Str + Punch - or claw if you prefer to call it
> > that).
> > >
> > > Clearly, the author didn't understand the meaning of the words he
> > was using
> > > (typos or Freudian slips (sp?) perhaps).
> > > With much thinking on the subject, I am confident that the above
> > was what he
> > > trying to say.
> > > Regardless, I just want to beseech the members of this list before
> > they do
> > > anything rash such as taking this entry from the book at face value:
> > >
> > > Use caution.
> > > Use discretion.
> > >
> > > Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
> > > Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <confucius@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:53
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights


> I don't believe that thi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "necro6hit" <throwrocks@...>
> To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:24
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: annoying oversights
>
>
> > very good points, all.
> > your oppinion on this makes a good house rule.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@y..., "Tony Figueroa" <tony.figueroa@f...> wrote:
> > > > > I take it you guys don't own Secrets of Shadoloo?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vega's description is EXPLICIT about adding the Claw Technique
> > to his
> > > > > Tumbling Attack damage (its in one of those colored boxes); its
> > not
> > > > > in the Tumbling Attack maneuver entry or on his character sheet.
> > > > > That's why I called this an "annoying oversight" -- they didn't
> > > > > include any 'Claw Technique' in Vega's stats, but went out of
> > their
> > > > > way to make sure you knew to add the Claw weapon modifiers and
> > > > > Technique to the Vega's Tumbling Attack damage.
> > > >
> > > > Could you repeat the text exactly? Maybe Claw Technique is a
> > blooper and
> > > > they actually meant Weapon Modifier, but didn't clarify later
> > when the PG
> > > > came out.
> > >
> > > I figure they mean the weapon damage modifier.
> > > There is no "Claw Technique" thus it seems quite obvious that you
> > should use
> > > what they give you: the Claw Modifiers. Understanding the rules of
> > the game,
> > > there is no instance where you should add two techniques plus an
> > attribute
> > > together. Otherwise, behold my fighter with his Jab damage being:
> > Strength +
> > > Punch + Sword Tech + Sword Modifiers + Jab Modifiers. Be afraid!
> > >
> > > I feel to interpret it that way is misreading the paragraph (page
> > 22 of
> > > Secrets of Shadoloo). However, it is written in a way that a bit of
> > thinking
> > > is necessary (as it's not very clear and can easily be miscontrued
> > as being
> > > quite horrific).
> > > I shall attempt to go over this confusing entry and make some sense
> > of it:
> > >
> > > Quote:
> > > "VEGA'S CLAW:
> > >
> > > Vega frequently employs a claw when in combat. He prefers this
> > > weapon over all others, primarily because it does not interfere with
> > > his many throws and holds.
> > >
> > > New Weapon - Claw: +1 Speed, +1 Damage, +0 Move
> > >
> > > Special: Vega can use Grab Techniques while using his claw. The
> > > maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage of his Tumbling Roll
> > > and his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches). His dots
> > > in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll."
> > >
> > > First Point:
> > > "The maneuver modifiers add to the speed and damage" - What
> > maneuver? Do
> > > they mean Claw Technique, Claw Modifiers, Grab Technique?
> > > Obviously, the author isn't writing what he means (conveying his
> > intent)
> > > because this makes no sense. No maneuver was mentioned. Thus "The
> > maneuver"
> > > refers to nothing.
> > > I would like to make a motion to decide that the author is not in
> > fact
> > > talking about a maneuver but something else.
> > >
> > > Second Point:
> > > "his three Strikes (which replace his three Punches)." - This would
> > seem to
> > > indicate that he cannot Punch. Therefore, his Punch is actually his
> > Claw
> > > Technique. (We know from the videogame that he actually can Punch,
> > just not
> > > that awesomely.)
> > >
> > > Third Point:
> > > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - As the
> > author
> > > didn't actually seem to mean "maneuver" when he stated "maneuver"
> > under my
> > > first point, I would like to move that he doesn't actually mean
> > Technique
> > > here, but in fact, redundantly, his Claw Modifiers. Previously
> > stated, his
> > > three strikes replace his Punches which means that his Punch is
> > actually his
> > > Claw Technique. It doesn't make much sense to add that Technique to
> > itself
> > > again.
> > > "His dots in Claw Technique are added to his Damage roll." - Wow?
> > To all of
> > > his attacks? To take this at face value, that's what it means. I do
> > firmly
> > > believe that this is simply redudancy, actually meaning to add the
> > Claw
> > > Weapon modifiers (+1,+1,+0) to his Tumbling Attack (Str +
> > Athletics) and to
> > > his three punches (Str + Punch - or claw if you prefer to call it
> > that).
> > >
> > > Clearly, the author didn't understand the meaning of the words he
> > was using
> > > (typos or Freudian slips (sp?) perhaps).
> > > With much thinking on the subject, I am confident that the above
> > was what he
> > > trying to say.
> > > Regardless, I just want to beseech the members of this list before
> > they do
> > > anything rash such as taking this entry from the book at face value:
> > >
> > > Use caution.
> > > Use discretion.
> > >
> > > Tony Figueroa "Knight of the Black Rose"
> > > Street Fighter RPG/STG: http://home.fuse.net/shermie/
> >
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "mean_liar" <mean_liar@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:36 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Combo off Abort


> Last night we decided to stop allowing a Combo off of an Aborted
> manueuver (specifically, the Block).
>
> The situation was that a Thai Kickboxer was facing off of a Kung Fu
> artist in a tourney. The Kickboxer would go for the Tiger Knee,
> while the Kung Fu artist would go for a Roundhouse. The Roundhouse
> damage was such that the Kickboxer didn't feel as though he had
> enough Stamina to suck up the Roundhouse and not get dizzied, so he
> would interrupt the Roundhouse with the Tiger Knee.
>
> The Kung Fu artist Aborted to the Block, knowing he had a Block to
> Hundred Hand Slap (dizzy) Combo that the Kickboxer would be unable
> to Block, due to its Speed. The kickboxer had seen this particular
> combo used earlier in the tourney, and so knew it would kill him if
> it hit, so he Aborted to the Block rather than use the Tiger Knee,
> thinking to use his Block to Tiger Knee combo.
>
> End result? Both fighters aborted to a Block rather than attack.
>
> Next round, the Tiger Knee goes off at 9 Speed. Same deal occurs --
> the Kung Fu artist aborts to the Block (which goes off because of
> the +2 Speed from executing a Block last turn [*]), so the kickboxer
> AGAIN aborts to the Block.
>
> Second round of nothing happening.
>
>
> What a crock of poo! No fighting? Just a Willpower-fueled Abort-
> fest? Bah!
>
> So, no more Combo-ing off of the Abort for our game. And I have to
> say, when we replayed out the fight with this new change, the fight
> was much more satisfying.
>
>
> [*] - we had previously decided that despite a Block following a
> Block normally allowing the second Block to go at infinite Speed, if
> the second Block was an Abort rather than a played card, it would go
> at normal Block speed (+4) plus the bonus for following a Block (+2).
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Obeston

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:20 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Lucha Libre

Has anyone done up a style for mexican wrestling?  Its
way to quick and air intensive for me to think of
using sanbo.  Thanks for any info.

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> A Lucha Libre style would have...
>
> ...some cool stuff in it. Worth writing up, I guess. I recommend
> CHAMPS. I highly doubt that anyone has created one previously. But
> Wrestling (from Contenders) isn't what you're looking for.
>
> I'll take a poke at it, sure. Give me a week.

> A Lucha Libre style would have...
>
> ...some cool stuff in it. Worth writing up, I
> guess. I recommend
> CHAMPS. I highly doubt that anyone has created one
> previously. But
> Wrestling (from Contenders) isn't what you're
> looking for.
>
> I'll take a poke at it, sure. Give me a week.
>
>

--- In streetfighter@y..., "orbit82000" <Orbit8@s...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am new to this group. I recently played Street Fighter III 3rd
> Strike for Dreamcast. I was curious about the origins of the
> characters. What is known about them? Anything written out there?
>
> Please let me know!

--- In streetfighter@y..., "necro6hit" <throwrocks@b...> wrote:
> http://www.geocities.com/necro6hit/underconstruction.html
>
> click "story" beside any characters name.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "orbit82000" <Orbit8@s...> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am new to this group. I recently played Street Fighter III 3rd
> > Strike for Dreamcast. I was curious about the origins of the
> > characters. What is known about them? Anything written out there?
> >
> > Please let me know!

----- Original Message -----

From: necro6hit

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:42 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter III 3rd Strike, character backgrounds wanted

http://www.geocities.com/necro6hit/underconstruction.html

click "story" beside any characters name.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "orbit82000" <Orbit8@s...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am new to this group. I recently played Street Fighter III 3rd
> Strike for Dreamcast. I was curious about the origins of the
> characters. What is known about them? Anything written out there?
>
> Please let me know!



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----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Obeston

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:36 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Champs

Where can I find champs.  Also has anyone had any luck
at working on a lucha libre style

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> To find all of my pages and their most recent
> locations (as they change from time to time), use
> this one convenient home page (add it to your
> favorites instead of the sites themselves - this
> home page shouldn't change for quite some time).
>
> http://www2.tsixroads.com/~sblade/rpg/pages.html
>
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason Obeston
> To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:36 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Champs
>
>
> Where can I find champs. Also has anyone had any
> luck
> at working on a lucha libre style
>
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--- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
> Hey matt... I notice that you're missing a few of the guys on
there. Do you need any help with backgrounds and stats etc.? Any of
the games produced by capcom I concider being something a resource
on. I'd be happy to impart any knowledge that I have.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: necro6hit
> To: streetfighter@y...
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:42 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter III 3rd Strike,
character backgrounds wanted
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/necro6hit/underconstruction.html
>
> click "story" beside any characters name.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "orbit82000" <Orbit8@s...> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am new to this group. I recently played Street Fighter III
3rd
> > Strike for Dreamcast. I was curious about the origins of the
> > characters. What is known about them? Anything written out
there?
> >
> > Please let me know!
>
>
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--- In streetfighter@y..., Orbit8 <Orbit8@s...> wrote:
> This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Where
did you get
> it? Just want to know the source.
>
> Orbit8
> http://forums.delphiforums.com/StLouisRPGA/start

----- Original Message -----

From: shotokanrpg

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:02 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] UPDATES

Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of War,
Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's Unread
SF Page, not one!
Please, say to me when you to update your pages.
Thank and see 'ya!

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----- Original Message -----

From: shotokanrpg

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:02 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] UPDATES

Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of War,
Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's Unread
SF Page, not one!
Please, say to me when you to update your pages.
Thank and see 'ya!

Neo Cobain



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--- In streetfighter@y..., "shotokanrpg" <shotokanrpg@i...> wrote:
> Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of
War,
> Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's
Unread
> SF Page, not one!
> Please, say to me when you to update your pages.
> Thank and see 'ya!
>
> Neo Cobain

>| I recomend this movie.
>| I couldnt stop laffing all thru it:)
>
>Really? I wasn't sure if it was making fun *with* martial arts or making
>fun
>*of* martial arts. I may rent it when it hits the video stores.
>

> Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of War,
> Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's Unread
> SF Page, not one!
> Please, say to me when you to update your pages.
> Thank and see 'ya!
>
> Neo Cobain

----- Original Message -----

From: J. Scott Pittman

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:38 PM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] UPDATES

 

The new CHAMPS site and Dogs of War sites are located at:

 

http://www2.tsixroads.com/~sblade/rpg/pages.html

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: shotokanrpg

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:02 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] UPDATES

Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of War,
Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's Unread
SF Page, not one!
Please, say to me when you to update your pages.
Thank and see 'ya!

Neo Cobain



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----- Original Message -----

From: necro6hit

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:12 AM

Subject: [streetfighter] Re: UPDATES

 

I'll post here if i ever do.

 

--- In streetfighter@y..., "shotokanrpg" & lt;shotokanrpg@i...> wrote:

> Your webpages never be updateds? Matt's Conversions, The Dogs Of

War,

> Chris Hoffmans' Alpha Conversions, SF In The Domain, Musashi's

Unread

> SF Page, not one!

> Please, say to me when you to update your pages.

> Thank and see 'ya!

>

> Neo Cobain

 

 

 

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