----- Original Message -----

From: Jonathan Combs

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:32 AM

Subject: [streetfighter] Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...

Hey all-

I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
character concepts and the like.  Has anyone thought about how to
write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha?  I was thinking, given their
somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it.  Then I began
to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters of 'solid
light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his ring). 
This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover, but
I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new character
ideas.

-Jonathan 'Cross' Combs



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> you may be out-thinking yourself chris,

nah, that'll never happen.

> Ive seen ppl accidentaly send personal stuff to the whole group
> before.

*cough, cough*, pictures of Cammy and Chun-Li come to mind.

> hell half the ppl who leave are too damn stupid to unsubscribe
> themselves:)

That's not really their fault though, it's just that egroups/yahoo haven't made
my unsubscribe FAQ offical. Yet.

Yeah, I know the guy probably goofed when he sent out the strategy. Hell, I've
done it myself, then tried to cover it up by sending Rinaldo the 'really real'
strategy.

The main reason I sent out those messages was because I was trying to get
myself in a sarcastic enough state of mind to write more MST3Ks (that's right
children, they're baaaaaaack). And just when Rinaldo thought it was safe to
run the Gateways too.

> Matt

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Actually, GL's power effects are called 'solid light' throughout his
comics... 'cohesive light' in some instances. But that's neither
here nor there.

I don't know... I guess I'm just looking for something beyond the
typical fighter-mutant... something less and more than human.
Undead, such as on your page, or other things... aliens created of
solid energy, that sort of thing... :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> Well, it is possible to create any number of special backgrounds
using the ones found on my page. Other than that, you can use the
Encyclopedia Combatica to add new Maneuvers that are really weird to
any character with the appropriate background. It would really depend
on what powers you thought the characters would have if they were
made of "solid light" or whatever. What did you have in mind? I'm not
familiar with Green Lantern's created guys.
> Another thing you might want to look at is Legends, which is
linked to my street fighter page.
>
> J. Scott Pittman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan Combs
> To: streetfighter@y...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:32 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
>
>
> Hey all-
>
> I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
> character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about how to
> write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given
their
> somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then I
began
> to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters
of 'solid
> light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his
ring).
> This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover,
but
> I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new
character
> ideas.
>
> -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs
>
>
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Sounds like your suffering from Dm burnout or writers block.

If that is the case, you might be going throug a stage where you think what
you do is no differebt than any other story, so your looking for new
material.

>From: "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:22:54 -0000
>
>Actually, GL's power effects are called 'solid light' throughout his
>comics... 'cohesive light' in some instances. But that's neither
>here nor there.
>
>I don't know... I guess I'm just looking for something beyond the
>typical fighter-mutant... something less and more than human.
>Undead, such as on your page, or other things... aliens created of
>solid energy, that sort of thing... :)
>
>--- In streetfighter@y..., "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > Well, it is possible to create any number of special backgrounds
>using the ones found on my page. Other than that, you can use the
>Encyclopedia Combatica to add new Maneuvers that are really weird to
>any character with the appropriate background. It would really depend
>on what powers you thought the characters would have if they were
>made of "solid light" or whatever. What did you have in mind? I'm not
>familiar with Green Lantern's created guys.
> > Another thing you might want to look at is Legends, which is
>linked to my street fighter page.
> >
> > J. Scott Pittman
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jonathan Combs
> > To: streetfighter@y...
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:32 AM
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
> >
> >
> > Hey all-
> >
> > I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
> > character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about how to
> > write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given
>their
> > somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then I
>began
> > to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters
>of 'solid
> > light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his
>ring).
> > This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover,
>but
> > I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new
>character
> > ideas.
> >
> > -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs
> >
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It's not burnout, since I haven't DMed in God knows how long. :) It
might just be writer's block, though. I just enjoy creating fresh
new concepts for characters, and lately I've been having trouble
trying to think up something that piques my interest. Though, I must
admit, I've been thinking about the 'mystique' behind Cross'
(my 'enigma' character on Gateway) background...

What would you do if you found out you are supposed to be the
incarnation of a fighting champion destined to save the world from
evil? What would you do then if you found out that you have been
incarnated 1000 years too late? ;)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
wrote:

> Sounds like your suffering from Dm burnout or writers block.
>
> If that is the case, you might be going throug a stage where you

think what

> you do is no differebt than any other story, so your looking for

new

> material.
>
>
> >From: "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> >To: streetfighter@y...
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Actually, GL's power effects are called 'solid light' throughout

his

> >comics... 'cohesive light' in some instances. But that's neither
> >here nor there.
> >
> >I don't know... I guess I'm just looking for something beyond the
> >typical fighter-mutant... something less and more than human.
> >Undead, such as on your page, or other things... aliens created of
> >solid energy, that sort of thing... :)
> >
> >--- In streetfighter@y..., "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@t...>

wrote:

> > > Well, it is possible to create any number of special

backgrounds

> >using the ones found on my page. Other than that, you can use the
> >Encyclopedia Combatica to add new Maneuvers that are really weird

to

> >any character with the appropriate background. It would really

depend

> >on what powers you thought the characters would have if they were
> >made of "solid light" or whatever. What did you have in mind? I'm

not

> >familiar with Green Lantern's created guys.
> > > Another thing you might want to look at is Legends, which is
> >linked to my street fighter page.
> > >
> > > J. Scott Pittman
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jonathan Combs
> > > To: streetfighter@y...
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:32 AM
> > > Subject: [streetfighter] Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head,

generally

> > > character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about

how to

> > > write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given
> >their
> > > somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then

I

> >began
> > > to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters
> >of 'solid
> > > light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his
> >ring).
> > > This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF

crossover,

> >but
> > > I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new
> >character
> > > ideas.
> > >
> > > -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs
> > >
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Okay, okay, I know this has been an issue on the list before. Aside
from the Abby crossover rules that someone on this list has been able
to provide, anyone else have any ideas for rules to merge the two
systems?

Reason being... I'm thinking up a brief summary of the world that is
different from both the Street Fighter and Aberrant 'canon' histories.

It goes something like this...

Street Fighters are underground resistance heroes, fighting against
the alien threat dubbed "Aberrants", beings of immense power, fueled
by corrupted Chi. These Aberrants, led by the belligerent Caestus
Pax (or, name your own nova), seek to subjugate the human race and
place them into their 'rightful' place of servitude to the Aberrant
horde.

It's not much, but it's something. Tear it apart, add to it, modify
it... I'd like to see input of any sort (provided it's constructive
and mature). ;)

-Jonathan 'Cross' Combs

In a message dated 4/25/01 3:30:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
doc_mental@... writes:

It's not much, but it's something.  Tear it apart, add to it, modify
it... I'd like to see input of any sort (provided it's constructive
and mature). ;)

-Jonathan 'Cross' Combs

You've actually helped me considerably.  Thank you.  I really had no clue
what my little thing-that-cannot-be would be using for katana fodder.  You
have been most helpful.  When the day of summoning arrives, I will see to it
that you are NOT eaten alive by some blasphemous horror.

Oh, right, I'm supposed to share my thoughts....

Basically I was going to have a horrid Lovecraft-style enter the world,
possess a innocent bystander, and warp natural beings into abominations to
serve it (i.e. get killed by our heroes).  Many thanks, I was stuck on good
minion powers.

Thank you for listening.

"Join me in seeking the Paths."

Arkon, Dark Lord of Chaos; Keeper of Mysteries; Circuit Folklorist; Seeker of
the Lost Paths

In the weekend in the next bouts I add this information (for that fight and
for the other one too).

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Combs <doc_mental@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Glory/Honor for Gateway


> Hey Rinaldo-
>
> Have you had the chance to figure out honor and glory for the
> fighters yet?
>
> Can't wait till Cross' next bout!
>
> -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

Well when I was running I got to use the Cycloids once. I had it set up this
way: being one of the few who incorporated the animated movie into the
timeline I decide that the Cycloids were what resulted from the Scount
Androids that were seen everywhere in the film. Of course, they were now a
bit more advanced than your average tinkeytoy. I gave them a sort of mimetic
ability in which they could copy the moves of anyone they fought, like
photographic reflexes. It was a bit of a kludge; I never tacked down how
they could, I really think it needed an intellegence check or a contested
roll of some sort, maybe against how many successes the fighter they were
copying got on a to-hit (we used to-hits in my game). Also, they could
replicate any move as long as it was within the realms of their programming
and design. In other words they couldn't do anything involving psychic power
or anything that required a conscious mind. In all, it's up to the
storyteller on how advanced they want the Cycloid to be.


PS: I heard once that Green LAntern's constructs were made of some type of
plasma. But seeing as how he was able to pick people up and not incinerate
them, I believe the designation was faulty. ;)

>From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:50:29 -0400
>
>Sounds like your suffering from Dm burnout or writers block.
>
>If that is the case, you might be going throug a stage where you think what
>you do is no differebt than any other story, so your looking for new
>material.
>
>
> >From: "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Actually, GL's power effects are called 'solid light' throughout his
> >comics... 'cohesive light' in some instances. But that's neither
> >here nor there.
> >
> >I don't know... I guess I'm just looking for something beyond the
> >typical fighter-mutant... something less and more than human.
> >Undead, such as on your page, or other things... aliens created of
> >solid energy, that sort of thing... :)
> >
> >--- In streetfighter@y..., "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > > Well, it is possible to create any number of special backgrounds
> >using the ones found on my page. Other than that, you can use the
> >Encyclopedia Combatica to add new Maneuvers that are really weird to
> >any character with the appropriate background. It would really depend
> >on what powers you thought the characters would have if they were
> >made of "solid light" or whatever. What did you have in mind? I'm not
> >familiar with Green Lantern's created guys.
> > > Another thing you might want to look at is Legends, which is
> >linked to my street fighter page.
> > >
> > > J. Scott Pittman
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jonathan Combs
> > > To: streetfighter@y...
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:32 AM
> > > Subject: [streetfighter] Is it REALLY Cybernetics, or...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
> > > character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about how to
> > > write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given
> >their
> > > somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then I
> >began
> > > to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters
> >of 'solid
> > > light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his
> >ring).
> > > This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover,
> >but
> > > I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new
> >character
> > > ideas.
> > >
> > > -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs
> > >
> > >
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At 08:29 PM 4/25/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>Okay, okay, I know this has been an issue on the list before. Aside
>from the Abby crossover rules that someone on this list has been able
>to provide, anyone else have any ideas for rules to merge the two
>systems?

Could somebody direct me to or send me their Aberrant crossover rules?

Thanks,

Knight of the Black Rose

My Street Fighter RPG page:
http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/

Look in the files for this Flie

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/streetfighter/files/TheMastersSecrets./SfAbberant/StreetFighter.doc


I Was thinking abberants could be streetfighters
who errupted through training (This is presumably why
so few of them could actually attain the level of
ability to breform flashy moves like fierballs.) and
discipline. It is just a thought though and it would
also give the character power eanough to have A MARVEL
vS CAPCOM Cross over.

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Oh, yeah, that would be good too... hadn't really considered the
possibility of eruption through training-- nice touch. :)

In thinking on the brief synopsis I gave, I came up with all sorts o'
questions that might arise...

1) Where does Bison/Shadoloo fit into all of this?
2) Do Aberrants REALLY channel Chi?
3) What happens when the PCs (or humans in general) discover that
novas are really humans, and not aliens as first believed?
4) Is there the possibility that there are 'good hearted' novas?
5) How does Chi interact with Quantum?-- same as Psi?

--- In streetfighter@y..., cliff rice <shinzite@y...> wrote:
> Look in the files for this Flie
>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/streetfighter/files/TheMastersSecrets./S
fAbberant/StreetFighter.doc
>
>
> I Was thinking abberants could be streetfighters
> who errupted through training (This is presumably why
> so few of them could actually attain the level of
> ability to breform flashy moves like fierballs.) and
> discipline. It is just a thought though and it would
> also give the character power eanough to have A MARVEL
> vS CAPCOM Cross over.
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Yes, well, not being eaten alive by some blasphemous horror definitely
rates high on my list. :)

When the day of summoning arrives, I will
see to it

> that you are NOT eaten alive by some blasphemous horror.
>

> I decide that the Cycloids were what resulted from the

Scount

> Androids that were seen everywhere in the film. Of

course, they were now a

> bit more advanced than your average tinkeytoy. I gave

them a sort of mimetic

> ability in which they could copy the moves of anyone

they fought, like

> photographic reflexes. It was a bit of a kludge; I

never tacked down how

> they could, I really think it needed an intellegence

check or a contested

> roll of some sort, maybe against how many successes

the fighter they were

Why don't you try it this way: The Cycloid rolls
Intelligence+Insight to interpret the move. Dificculty
is the maneuver's highest technique requisite+3 (a Power
uppercut would be Diff 4, a Flaming Dragon punch diff 8).
The number of sucesses rolled determines the number of
times the machine will be able to use it well in the
fight. This it becomes highly adaptable without being a
monstrous ass-kicking behemoth (i hope). For maneuvers
with Focus as SECONDARY technique (dim mak, heart punch
& others), you might allow it to use the trick if he
spends a health level.

>
>
> PS: I heard once that Green LAntern's constructs were

made of some type of

> plasma. But seeing as how he was able to pick people

up and not incinerate

> them, I believe the designation was faulty. ;)
>

Both terms (Solid light, plasma) are just figures of
speech, meant to give a name to what's is not exactly
definable. Plasma does not exactly means the plasma as
discussed in physics. It's just a word for anything that
has mixed characteristics of liquids & solids. Ectoplasm
is just a variation of this concept, just to give an
example.

And why don't you just use the same backgrounds with
other names. Just to make a referrence, There's Drakiss
in S'lhuustkaah in Contenders, who are an
extradimensional alien being, and a female of d Serpent
People (yup, i DO mean d scaly guys from Conan & Kull)
respectively. They have nothing to do with the usual
acception of Animal Hybrids in the Player's Guide, but
use d background anyway, to represent their deviations
from human body pattern.

You might as well call them "mutants" or "Freaks" or
whatever. Or if you wanna go overboard, call animal
hybrids "Body mutants" and elementals "power (or force)
mutants". And cybernetics might as well be weird bio-
implants, like Venom's simbyote or d Witchblade...

It's just a matter or how u make d mechanics work for ya.
Names are just a bunch of words anyway. :)


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1) Where does Bison/Shadoloo fit into all of this?
[Bison wants to use his quantum powers to rule the
worls the only ones who can stop him are other Novas.]

> 2) Do Aberrants REALLY channel Chi?

[Chi is just what some Novas call Quantum.]

> 3) What happens when the PCs (or humans in general)
> discover that novas are really humans, and not

aliens as first believed?

[I am using abberant where everyone already knows
about novas being human. I personaly dont like
trinity!
But abberant is cool.]

> 4) Is there the possibility that there are 'good
> hearted' novas?

[Definatly! in my game all of the world warriors
would be novas.]

> 5) How does Chi interact with Quantum?-- same as
> Psi?

I Figured for purposes of the game chi and quantum
are like Potatos and pototos!



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Yeah, by plasma I think he meant 'amorphous energy' that can be
formed into something.

>
> Both terms (Solid light, plasma) are just figures of
> speech, meant to give a name to what's is not exactly
> definable. Plasma does not exactly means the plasma as
> discussed in physics. It's just a word for anything that
> has mixed characteristics of liquids & solids. Ectoplasm
> is just a variation of this concept, just to give an
> example.
>

You mean semantics. *L*

>
> It's just a matter or how u make d mechanics work for ya.
> Names are just a bunch of words anyway. :)
>
>
>

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Any idea as to why it's forbidden now?

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check this
> out.
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>
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| Any idea as to why it's forbidden now?

Because all the stick people were naked!
Couldn't you tell?

Actuakky it just looks like it's been removed.

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Oh my GOD, I thought those were NUNCHAKU!!!!! You're telling me..
that.. they were really... OH MY GOD!!!!! ;)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@a...> wrote:
> | Any idea as to why it's forbidden now?
>
> Because all the stick people were naked!
> Couldn't you tell?
>
> Actuakky it just looks like it's been removed.
>
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Yes Geki is ibukis father.
thats why hes in her stage.

that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
special agent.

I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game. if
anyone finds one pls tell me where!! I found several crappy ones but
none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!

Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
so mike tyson didnt sue. so they both in fact are boxers named
mike. coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.

Matt
www.geocities.com/necro6hit

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
wrote:

>
> Hi rinaldo.
>
> The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly

seen in

> the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
>
> There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my

personal

> opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,

she gets

> knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with

a

> moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
>
> >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> >
> > I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu

after SF1.

> >
> >
>
>

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I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:

1. The maker of the game has stated that they were just tools for
playtesting, thats why they have every move between the 2 of them.
just frames to test the animations on. They have no story whatsoever
and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past, a story, and a
personality. not just somthing that fights.. I wouldnt convert them
anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start button to begin a
fight. its just a non-character part of the game. (like Ace, the
customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)

2. Arika made all the ex games with permission from capcom. thats
why they are sucky and "different". also one of the most troublesome
to convert. they arent official capcom stuff so the characters dont
fit into the plot at all and dont fit into the system of styles as
well.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
> character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about how to
> write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given their
> somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then I
began
> to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters of 'solid
> light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his ring).
> This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover,
but
> I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new character
> ideas.
>
> -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs

Oh, no, I just used the Cycloids as an example of a different TYPE of
character. A construct; a golem; a self aware colony of
self-perpetuating combat nanodrones; whatever. :)

Also knew it wasn't 'canon'; didn't know that Capcom didn't have a
direct hand though. :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., throwrocks@b... wrote:
> I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:
>
> 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were just tools for
> playtesting, thats why they have every move between the 2 of them.
> just frames to test the animations on. They have no story
whatsoever
> and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past, a story, and a
> personality. not just somthing that fights.. I wouldnt convert
them
> anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start button to begin
a
> fight. its just a non-character part of the game. (like Ace, the
> customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)
>
> 2. Arika made all the ex games with permission from capcom. thats
> why they are sucky and "different". also one of the most
troublesome
> to convert. they arent official capcom stuff so the characters dont
> fit into the plot at all and dont fit into the system of styles as
> well.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> > Hey all-
> >
> > I was just kind of toying around with ideas in my head, generally
> > character concepts and the like. Has anyone thought about how to
> > write up the Cycloids in SF EX+ Alpha? I was thinking, given
their
> > somewhat robotic nature, perhaps Cybernetics covers it. Then I
> began
> > to wonder if it wouldn't be possible to create characters of
'solid
> > light' (similar to what the Green Lantern creates with his ring).

> > This probably enters into the realm of an Aberrant/SF crossover,
> but
> > I'm just looking for thoughts, ideas... even strange, new
character
> > ideas.
> >
> > -Jonathan 'Cross' Combs

> I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:
>
> 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were

just tools for

> playtesting, thats why they have every move between

the 2 of them.

> just frames to test the animations on. They have no

story whatsoever

> and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past,

a story, and a

> personality. not just somthing that fights.. I

wouldnt convert them

> anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start

button to begin a

> fight. its just a non-character part of the game.

(like Ace, the

> customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)

I get your point, but just because a bunch of money-
grubbing assholes put something in a game without giving
it any thought, doesn't mean we can't make something out
of them. So they don't have a story and weren't made to
have one. If it strikes your fancy, make it. If it
doesn't, you can always make sonme ridiculous joke or
pun out of it. :-)




__________________________________________________________________________
Acesso f�cil, r�pido e ilimitado? Suporte 24hs? R$19,90?
S� no AcessoBOL - http://www.bol.com.br/acessobol/

Jeez, hes a stick man!
if that brings joy to your game, go ahead.

hell you could throw dudleys car in the ring while your at it, it'd
be just like "fighters megamix"

weeee

--- In streetfighter@y..., "marnic"<marnic@b...> wrote:
> > I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:
> >
> > 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were
> just tools for
> > playtesting, thats why they have every move between
> the 2 of them.
> > just frames to test the animations on. They have no
> story whatsoever
> > and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past,
> a story, and a
> > personality. not just somthing that fights.. I
> wouldnt convert them
> > anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start
> button to begin a
> > fight. its just a non-character part of the game.
> (like Ace, the
> > customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)
>
> I get your point, but just because a bunch of money-
> grubbing assholes put something in a game without giving
> it any thought, doesn't mean we can't make something out
> of them. So they don't have a story and weren't made to
> have one. If it strikes your fancy, make it. If it
> doesn't, you can always make sonme ridiculous joke or
> pun out of it. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
______________________________________________________________________
____
> Acesso fácil, rápido e ilimitado? Suporte 24hs? R$19,90?
> Só no AcessoBOL - http://www.bol.com.br/acessobol/

Living up to your name, I see. :)

I think the point was, "Sure, it's a crappy character model from a
sub-par video game, but who says that WE can't make a story-- DESPITE
his stickman nature!"

Personally (and this is just me), I see the Cycloid as (I think I
mentioned this already) a colony of combat nanodrones given
sentience. It fights because it knows nothing else, but is beginning
to learn- sorta like AI.

("Dudley's car?" Pretty soon, we're gonna get back to the Turbo
Teen, Automan, etc. discussions. *L*)

-Jonathan

--- In streetfighter@y..., throwrocks@b... wrote:
> Jeez, hes a stick man!
> if that brings joy to your game, go ahead.
>
> hell you could throw dudleys car in the ring while your at it, it'd
> be just like "fighters megamix"
>
> weeee
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "marnic"<marnic@b...> wrote:
> > > I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:
> > >
> > > 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were
> > just tools for
> > > playtesting, thats why they have every move between
> > the 2 of them.
> > > just frames to test the animations on. They have no
> > story whatsoever
> > > and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past,
> > a story, and a
> > > personality. not just somthing that fights.. I
> > wouldnt convert them
> > > anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start
> > button to begin a
> > > fight. its just a non-character part of the game.
> > (like Ace, the
> > > customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)
> >
> > I get your point, but just because a bunch of money-
> > grubbing assholes put something in a game without giving
> > it any thought, doesn't mean we can't make something out
> > of them. So they don't have a story and weren't made to
> > have one. If it strikes your fancy, make it. If it
> > doesn't, you can always make sonme ridiculous joke or
> > pun out of it. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
______________________________________________________________________
> ____
> > Acesso fácil, rápido e ilimitado? Suporte 24hs? R$19,90?
> > Só no AcessoBOL - http://www.bol.com.br/acessobol/

I have one for M.A.M.E if you want. I don´t known but I belive in Mike
Theory, other say Lee is Chun Li´s father, but just curious:

Joe - Western Kickboxing
Geki- Ninjutsu
Eagle- Short Staff Combat Style/Military Hand to Hand
Retsu- Shotokan Karate

People agree with about these folks?

----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History


> Yes Geki is ibukis father.
> thats why hes in her stage.
>
> that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
> agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
> special agent.
>
> I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game. if
> anyone finds one pls tell me where!! I found several crappy ones but
> none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
> of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!
>
> Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
> Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
> so mike tyson didnt sue. so they both in fact are boxers named
> mike. coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.
>
> Matt
> www.geocities.com/necro6hit
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi rinaldo.
> >
> > The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
> seen in
> > the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
> >
> > There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
> personal
> > opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
> she gets
> > knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
> a
> > moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
> >
> > >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> > >
> > > I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
> after SF1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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I agree with Pascuttini but maybe Eagle known Chun Li if he´s a Interpol
agent or Cammy if he is a english intelligence agent maybe,
Lee is a mystery his style is very close with Ying and Yang brothers STF 3
or Chun Li, Joe disappear, and Geki is Ibuki´s father.
About these characters Eagle is my favourite I plan a short staff combat
style for him. Retsu maybe is a older stundent of Shotokan but he didn´t
make any special manuver or he known or he couldn´t do?

----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History


> Yes Geki is ibukis father.
> thats why hes in her stage.
>
> that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
> agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
> special agent.
>
> I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game. if
> anyone finds one pls tell me where!! I found several crappy ones but
> none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
> of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!
>
> Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
> Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
> so mike tyson didnt sue. so they both in fact are boxers named
> mike. coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.
>
> Matt
> www.geocities.com/necro6hit
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi rinaldo.
> >
> > The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
> seen in
> > the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
> >
> > There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
> personal
> > opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
> she gets
> > knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
> a
> > moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
> >
> > >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> > >
> > > I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
> after SF1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Hey all-

Mr. Conkle was kind enough to track down the new link for Stick
Fighter...

http://games.sohu.com/fightgame/fight3.swf

ALSO, you might wanna try...

http://games.sohu.com/fightgame/fight2.swf

- Click on the kanji script, then on the bottom-most right hand box
(the upper most of the 2 boxes in the bottom right corner just has a
demo screen). Click on one of the 3 circles on the left, then on one
of the diamonds that shows up. It was enough to make me laugh out
loud! :)

-Jonathan "Cross" Combs

Yes, it's true... in order to avoid possible legal conflict, they had
to change the names around of our 4 favorite villains... because "M.
Bison" (who we know as Balrog) sounded too similar to "M. Tyson".

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
wrote:

> I have one for M.A.M.E if you want. I don´t known but I belive in

Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: throwrocks@...

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:08 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

Yes Geki is ibukis father.
thats why hes in her stage.

that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
special agent.

I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game.  if
anyone finds one pls tell me where!!  I found several crappy ones but
none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!

Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
so mike tyson didnt sue.  so they both in fact are boxers named
mike.  coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.

Matt
www.geocities.com/necro6hit

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
wrote:
>
> Hi rinaldo.
>
> The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
seen in
> the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
>
> There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
personal
> opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
she gets
> knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
a
> moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
>
> >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> >
> >  I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
after SF1.
> >
> >
>
>
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Well I don´t get changes in tactical pattern of fighters (of course If I
have I can´t tell anyway.) I will use the last tactic. Thanks and wait
weekend.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rinaldo Gambetta

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

I have one for M.A.M.E if you want. I don´t known but I belive in Mike
Theory, other say Lee is Chun Li´s father, but just curious:

Joe - Western Kickboxing
Geki- Ninjutsu
Eagle- Short Staff Combat Style/Military Hand to Hand
Retsu- Shotokan Karate

People agree with about these folks?

----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History


> Yes Geki is ibukis father.
> thats why hes in her stage.
>
> that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
> agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
> special agent.
>
> I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game.  if
> anyone finds one pls tell me where!!  I found several crappy ones but
> none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
> of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!
>
> Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
> Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
> so mike tyson didnt sue.  so they both in fact are boxers named
> mike.  coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.
>
> Matt
> www.geocities.com/necro6hit
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi rinaldo.
> >
> > The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
> seen in
> > the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
> >
> > There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
> personal
> > opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
> she gets
> > knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
> a
> > moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
> >
> > >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> > >
> > >  I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
> after SF1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Johnston

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:47 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

All those look A-OK Rinaldo. Eagle probably could just be listed as Special forces (as most spys are) but it sounds fine.  As far as Lee goes... well that's not "quite" correct. There is a familly of fighters from China.... called the "Lee" familiy. It started with Gen, whom was in Sf1, and the Alpha games. He was an assasin whom learned several different styles of Kung fu. His son was the fighter Lee...who was never quite a good a Gen, and just and OK fighter. I've heard rumors that he was tied to the Triads (Chinese mafia). When he lost in SF1 he was to have been killed. However, the line didn't end there. You see he had two Twin sons, known as the Lee brothers, or "Twin Dragons".  As pulled directly from their Bios:

 

"The Wind Gust Dragon and Water Storm Dragon, otherwise known as Yun and Yang
are the adolescent gang leaders of Hong Kong.  The pair of them live with their
uncle and keep a small shop in the heart of the city.  They both attain great
support from their "God fathers" the crime lords of Hong Kong.  The pair of
them are also known to cause a fair bit of mischief all in the name of good
"fun".
Both Yun and Yang fight in a style of Chinese Gong (Kung) Fu which seems to be
rooted deeply in Kempo.  Since their grandfather, none other than Gen of
original and Alpha Street Fighter fame, taught them their fighting style, I
wouldn't be surprised if this was true (Gen actually fought in the "animal"
arts of Mantis and Crane).  Despite the fact that their fighting style is the
same, the two have very branched techniques.  Yun concentrates on instantaneous
and fast hits like gusts of wind while Yang prefers a flowing style which flows
like the sea. "

Use this as you like.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rinaldo Gambetta

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

I have one for M.A.M.E if you want. I don´t known but I belive in Mike
Theory, other say Lee is Chun Li´s father, but just curious:

Joe - Western Kickboxing
Geki- Ninjutsu
Eagle- Short Staff Combat Style/Military Hand to Hand
Retsu- Shotokan Karate

People agree with about these folks?

----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History


> Yes Geki is ibukis father.
> thats why hes in her stage.
>
> that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
> agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
> special agent.
>
> I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game.  if
> anyone finds one pls tell me where!!  I found several crappy ones but
> none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
> of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!
>
> Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
> Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
> so mike tyson didnt sue.  so they both in fact are boxers named
> mike.  coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.
>
> Matt
> www.geocities.com/necro6hit
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi rinaldo.
> >
> > The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
> seen in
> > the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
> >
> > There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
> personal
> > opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
> she gets
> > knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
> a
> > moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
> >
> > >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> > >
> > >  I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
> after SF1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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--- Jonathan Combs <doc_mental@...> wrote:

> What would you do if you found out you are supposed to be the
> incarnation of a fighting champion destined to save the world from
> evil?

Rub it in the face of all the people who jeered and mocked me in high school.
I'm petty that way.

What would you do then if you found out that you have been

> incarnated 1000 years too late? ;)

Get Perry Mason's phone number. I'm going to need him.

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"We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
--we merely expect them to try."
-- Robert Heinlein

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I like you. You make me laugh.

;)

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> --- Jonathan Combs <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> > What would you do if you found out you are supposed to be the
> > incarnation of a fighting champion destined to save the world
from
> > evil?
>
> Rub it in the face of all the people who jeered and mocked me in
high school.
> I'm petty that way.
>
> What would you do then if you found out that you have been
> > incarnated 1000 years too late? ;)
>
> Get Perry Mason's phone number. I'm going to need him.
>
> =====
> staredown@r... http://www.workspot.net/~staredown
>
> "We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> --we merely expect them to try."
> -- Robert Heinlein
>
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Beautiful Job! :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
> In other news: The Pictures I have been editing for the last 5
months are finnaly put together. I have made a picture that features
all 53 fighters from ALL the real Street Fighter games: That's all 47
World Warriors and the 6 other fighters: Dan, Sakura, Twelve, Q,
Karin, and Akuma, that just aren't on the Circut or can't make the
grade. I have the posted in the Files secction under the folder "
World Warriror Wallpaper" even though I don't think that the picture
is the right shape for wall paper. I put several up there, but not
the real one, cuz it was too big. If you want the original one, you
can e-mail me personally and I'll send it to you. I also stuck the
newest version of that by-the-years-history-o-SF up there. Hope you
guys enjoy.

Hey--

Really excited about seeing a pic of Cross... this is NOT a rush or a
demand. :) I'm just wondering if the pic was ever done... or if I'm
just not seeing it on your page. :)

Thanks a lot!

Jonathan "Cross" Combs

--- marnic <marnic@...> wrote:

> > I dont think they deserve conversion for 2
> reasons:
> >
> > 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were
>
> just tools for
> > playtesting, thats why they have every move
> between
> the 2 of them.
> > just frames to test the animations on. They have
> no
> story whatsoever
> > and never did. A "Character" is someone with a
> past,
> a story, and a
> > personality. not just somthing that fights.. I
> wouldnt convert them
> > anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant
> start
> button to begin a
> > fight. its just a non-character part of the game.
> (like Ace, the
> > customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)
>
> I get your point, but just because a bunch of money-
> grubbing assholes put something in a game without
> giving
> it any thought, doesn't mean we can't make something
> out
> of them. So they don't have a story and weren't made
> to
> have one. If it strikes your fancy, make it. If it
> doesn't, you can always make sonme ridiculous joke
> or
> pun out of it. :-)

The Cycloids are interesting. The way I worked them
(for a B.S. campaign) was they were the creation of a
holographic fighting game that "learned" from people
playing it. Gradually, the Cycloid (incidentally, the
"final boss" of the game) became a nearly unstoppable
fighter, and the game's A.I. felt superior to the
humans around it and "manifested" a solid-energy
Cycloid (Gamma, I believe, it's been a while), and
began terrorizing the surrounding area.

Josh

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----- Original Message -----

From: Rinaldo Gambetta

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:13 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

Interesting I always think Lee have something with Chun Li but this side of history is good, about Retsu this is a good curious history, he´s more older than Ryu and Ken, it´s sure to say he known Shotokan but a Fireball or Dragon Punch, maybe he known but he didn´t use, I have the SF1 rom, I try put in very hard mode to see something.

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Johnston

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:47 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

All those look A-OK Rinaldo. Eagle probably could just be listed as Special forces (as most spys are) but it sounds fine.  As far as Lee goes... well that's not "quite" correct. There is a familly of fighters from China.... called the "Lee" familiy. It started with Gen, whom was in Sf1, and the Alpha games. He was an assasin whom learned several different styles of Kung fu. His son was the fighter Lee...who was never quite a good a Gen, and just and OK fighter. I've heard rumors that he was tied to the Triads (Chinese mafia). When he lost in SF1 he was to have been killed. However, the line didn't end there. You see he had two Twin sons, known as the Lee brothers, or "Twin Dragons".  As pulled directly from their Bios:

 

"The Wind Gust Dragon and Water Storm Dragon, otherwise known as Yun and Yang
are the adolescent gang leaders of Hong Kong.  The pair of them live with their
uncle and keep a small shop in the heart of the city.  They both attain great
support from their "God fathers" the crime lords of Hong Kong.  The pair of
them are also known to cause a fair bit of mischief all in the name of good
"fun".
Both Yun and Yang fight in a style of Chinese Gong (Kung) Fu which seems to be
rooted deeply in Kempo.  Since their grandfather, none other than Gen of
original and Alpha Street Fighter fame, taught them their fighting style, I
wouldn't be surprised if this was true (Gen actually fought in the "animal"
arts of Mantis and Crane).  Despite the fact that their fighting style is the
same, the two have very branched techniques.  Yun concentrates on instantaneous
and fast hits like gusts of wind while Yang prefers a flowing style which flows
like the sea. "

Use this as you like.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rinaldo Gambetta

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History

I have one for M.A.M.E if you want. I don´t known but I belive in Mike
Theory, other say Lee is Chun Li´s father, but just curious:

Joe - Western Kickboxing
Geki- Ninjutsu
Eagle- Short Staff Combat Style/Military Hand to Hand
Retsu- Shotokan Karate

People agree with about these folks?

----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street Fighter World Past History


> Yes Geki is ibukis father.
> thats why hes in her stage.
>
> that bit about eagle makes some sense since they were both secret
> agents. i cant remember if eagle was interpol too or just english
> special agent.
>
> I have long been searching for a GOOD emulation of this game.  if
> anyone finds one pls tell me where!!  I found several crappy ones but
> none that look as good as the screenshots from videogames.com history
> of sf. I want it so i can make the characters and moves for my page!
>
> Also lots of ppl say the boxer Mike is Balrog.
> Balrog is M. Bison in the japanese version but they changed it in usa
> so mike tyson didnt sue.  so they both in fact are boxers named
> mike.  coinceidence?? maybe, maybe not.
>
> Matt
> www.geocities.com/necro6hit
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi rinaldo.
> >
> > The only one sighted after SF1 is supposedly Geki. He is supposedly
> seen in
> > the little ninja girls stage in SF3, I forget her name right now.
> >
> > There is also a possible sighting of eagle in SFA. now this is my
> personal
> > opinion and has no basis. If you play SFa and beat it with chun li,
> she gets
> > knocked out and put into a hospital. while in bed a blond man with
> a
> > moustache is standing next to the bed. He looks somewhat like eagle.
> >
> > >From: "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: <streetfighter@y...>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter World Past History
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:34 -0300
> > >
> > >  I just want known what happens with Joe, Eagle, Geki and Retsu
> after SF1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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| Mr. Conkle was kind enough to track down the new link for Stick
| Fighter...

Christian's still around??
Cool!

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> I like you. You make me laugh.

Thanks. Just hopeing that I inspired someone to write up Perry's stats...

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Yah, he's still around... ; I personally haven't had a chance to game
with the group in a long while... *whine*

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@a...> wrote:
> | Mr. Conkle was kind enough to track down the new link for Stick
> | Fighter...
>
> Christian's still around??
> Cool!
>
> _______________________________________________________
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> seagull@a... make you a better person."
> seagull@n... - Peter Olafson

I'm thinking Manipulation, Charisma, Insight, Subterfuge, and
Investigation at 5+. Just off the top of my head. *L*

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> --- Jonathan Combs <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> > I like you. You make me laugh.
>
>
> Thanks. Just hopeing that I inspired someone to write up Perry's
stats...
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I wrote up a system for Warrior's Pride # 2, under the Villains: The
Organization section.  they are very clunky but effective nontheless.

In a message dated 4/25/01 7:09:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dare2live@... writes:

. I gave them a sort of mimetic
ability in which they could copy the moves of anyone they fought, like
photographic reflexes.

I made a wrestling fed in which everyone votes on who
wins if you want to join please just Send a completly
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i actually already did one, just havent scanned and colored yet:)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> Hey--
>
> Really excited about seeing a pic of Cross... this is NOT a rush or
a
> demand. :) I'm just wondering if the pic was ever done... or if
I'm
> just not seeing it on your page. :)
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Jonathan "Cross" Combs

Well I think the point was he asked everyones oppinion and i just
gave mine. dont attack it:)

by the way sorry for the double post. my pc locked up just as i was
sending the "i dont think you should for 2 reasons " msg and i
thought it didnt go through so i sent the shorter "jeez hes a
stickman" msg after rebooting.

also, what do you mean "living up to my name?" My name is matt, my
geocities name is necro6hit and my email addy is sometimes
throwrocks@........I dont see how ive hit 6 times with necro
or assaulted bigfoot in my last post.

:)
Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> Living up to your name, I see. :)
>
> I think the point was, "Sure, it's a crappy character model from a
> sub-par video game, but who says that WE can't make a story--
DESPITE
> his stickman nature!"
>
> Personally (and this is just me), I see the Cycloid as (I think I
> mentioned this already) a colony of combat nanodrones given
> sentience. It fights because it knows nothing else, but is
beginning
> to learn- sorta like AI.
>
> ("Dudley's car?" Pretty soon, we're gonna get back to the Turbo
> Teen, Automan, etc. discussions. *L*)
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > Jeez, hes a stick man!
> > if that brings joy to your game, go ahead.
> >
> > hell you could throw dudleys car in the ring while your at it,
it'd
> > be just like "fighters megamix"
> >
> > weeee
> >
> > --- In streetfighter@y..., "marnic"<marnic@b...> wrote:
> > > > I dont think they deserve conversion for 2 reasons:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The maker of the game has stated that they were
> > > just tools for
> > > > playtesting, thats why they have every move between
> > > the 2 of them.
> > > > just frames to test the animations on. They have no
> > > story whatsoever
> > > > and never did. A "Character" is someone with a past,
> > > a story, and a
> > > > personality. not just somthing that fights.. I
> > > wouldnt convert them
> > > > anymore than i would make P.C.s press a giant start
> > > button to begin a
> > > > fight. its just a non-character part of the game.
> > > (like Ace, the
> > > > customizeable schmuck from the latest ps2 ex game)
> > >
> > > I get your point, but just because a bunch of money-
> > > grubbing assholes put something in a game without giving
> > > it any thought, doesn't mean we can't make something out
> > > of them. So they don't have a story and weren't made to
> > > have one. If it strikes your fancy, make it. If it
> > > doesn't, you can always make sonme ridiculous joke or
> > > pun out of it. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Im pretty sure i remember hearing that it was official capcom story
that the ninja in ibukis stage is geki, her father.

Look at art of geki (world warrior wallpaper in the files section)
and youll see they look exactly the SAME!

I cant remember where i heard it was her dad so i cant confirm it but
they draw him exactly the same so i think we can at least be sure its
geki behind her (whatever there relation might be)

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
> Unforutunatly we have no confirmation that Geki and Ibuki are
related (Which is a shame since I really like Geki). There are a few
flaws in everyones thoughts that might complicate matters. For one,
there is a GOOD possiblility that the Ninja featured in SF3 is not
Geki at all... Someone that has access to Capcoms art files posted
this a while back listing the ninjas from Ibukis stage: While I
don't take this on 100% garuntee... it does sound legit. (However
this guy thought poison from FF was a Cross dresser <Common
mistake.> Lol)
>

I dont know where videogames.com gets there info or how accurate it
is but they had this to say:

in Ibuki's bio:
""Note: Geki, the original Street Fighter ninja, is rumored to be her
father, and can be seen hovering after certain rounds in front of her
dojo. The ninjas who view her matches in front of her dojo are
apparently her teachers, who show concern when Ibuki loses a round.""

In Geki's
""Ten years later in the Street Fighter III tournament, a new ninja
fighter has broken onto the scene: Ibuki. Rumored to be Geki's only
daughter, though not confirmed, it's no wonder you can catch a
glimpse of Geki hovering in the background of Ibuki's stage ever so
often. Ibuki knows of the new contest approaching, and enters to
confirm her status as a ninja warrior, though still just a schoolgirl
herself.

Note: While it may not be confirmed that Ibuki is Geki's daughter,
the similarities and coincidences are overwhelming, don't you think?""


matt

> --- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
> > Unforutunatly we have no confirmation that Geki and Ibuki are
> related (Which is a shame since I really like Geki). There are a

few

> flaws in everyones thoughts that might complicate matters. For

one,

> there is a GOOD possiblility that the Ninja featured in SF3 is not
> Geki at all... Someone that has access to Capcoms art files posted
> this a while back listing the ninjas from Ibukis stage: While I
> don't take this on 100% garuntee... it does sound legit. (However
> this guy thought poison from FF was a Cross dresser <Common
> mistake.> Lol)
> >