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Group: streetfighter Message: 10363 From: razaarfxz@hotmail.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Honorable Ler Drit?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10364 From: razaarfxz@hotmail.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Nature of the comet.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10365 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10366 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Group: streetfighter Message: 10367 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10368 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10369 From: Wayne French Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Funniest question I have read in a while
Group: streetfighter Message: 10370 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10371 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10372 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10373 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10374 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: "The REAL World Warriors"
Group: streetfighter Message: 10375 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
Group: streetfighter Message: 10376 From: marnic@bol.com.br Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10377 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Group: streetfighter Message: 10378 From: marnic@bol.com.br Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
Group: streetfighter Message: 10379 From: Karl-Erlend Mikalsen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10380 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10381 From: Soldar Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: (no subject)
Group: streetfighter Message: 10382 From: azathoth05@aol.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10383 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Group: streetfighter Message: 10384 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10385 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: "The REAL World Warriors"
Group: streetfighter Message: 10386 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
Group: streetfighter Message: 10387 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10388 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Polls
Group: streetfighter Message: 10389 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
Group: streetfighter Message: 10390 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10391 From: marnic Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Group: streetfighter Message: 10392 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Polls
Group: streetfighter Message: 10393 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10394 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
Group: streetfighter Message: 10395 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10396 From: Wayne French Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet
Group: streetfighter Message: 10397 From: Thomas Merton Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10398 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10399 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Group: streetfighter Message: 10400 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Script Version 3
Group: streetfighter Message: 10401 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Spin Clothesline and Hurricane Kick
Group: streetfighter Message: 10402 From: Josh Diemert Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10403 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10404 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10405 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10406 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10407 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10408 From: marnic Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10409 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10410 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Group: streetfighter Message: 10411 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: sanbo cost
Group: streetfighter Message: 10412 From: Danyal Herder Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.



Group: streetfighter Message: 10363 From: razaarfxz@hotmail.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Honorable Ler Drit?
>Jens-Arthur Leirbakk <leirbakk@p...>
> > Actually, Ler Drit is a real life martial art. The martial art
>style thatthe Thai military forces use, is called Ler Drit. Or, I
>believe, more correctly called Lerd Rit. Or something like that.
>

I stand corrected.
I do agree
with Andy, though.
It's a style with a similar name.

Anyways,
I wish Cross luck
in his struggle
to redeem himself,
or find a new path of hounour.

Herr Tevik
Group: streetfighter Message: 10364 From: razaarfxz@hotmail.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Nature of the comet.
The Ler Drit discussion
has got me thinking;
What is the true nature
of the Meteor?
Does it contain an alien lifeform
with immense psychic powers?
Is it a universal source
of magical energy?
Is it a burned-out russian sattelite?

I'd like to hear
your speculations...

The powers that Ler Drit
contains are vaguely similar in
outlook compared to kabaddi. (remember, I said vaguely :1)
Yet, they both flame.
But the means to achieve
the power's mastery is different.
Ler Drit is STRENGTH,
while Kabaddi is Balance.


Herr Tevik
Group: streetfighter Message: 10365 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
You send the character now and if you like the battle plan, I need known
what your fight will do but before you can change it any time just e-mail me
to do this.
Well in the beggining is 10 rounds but the fights sometimes end very quickly
and many wins by time out happen, so with 20 rounds the problem is over.

You can add abort notes for your character for example:
Abort to jump in grab cases.
Abort to Block in any knockdown manuver.
If my opponent block abort to block and in the next turn retreat.
and many other situations can be add to your abort list. Ps: If you don´t
make a abort list isn´t a problem but I just follow your instructions.

Regards :).
----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:51 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> yikes!!!
> you have to lay your whole fight out in advance!!!???
>
> so even if something doesnt work you keep doing it over and over if
> your instructions say so?
>
> gross..
>
> I would have to seriously think about the fight first... What
> happened to playing the next round based on how the last round went???
> ---------
> Rinaldo,
> can i just send you the character now or do you need the character
> and the "battle plan" together?
>
> also, is it 10 or twenty rounds???
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> > --- throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > > two questions about gateway...
> > >
> > > 1) How often need i check my e mail? we swap hits everynight??
> >
> > It was a weekly thing the last time it was ran. Rinaldo will
> probably compile
> > it on weekends.
> >
> > Just some FYI about this tournament... This is not a rpg session
> over email.
> > It's just a tournament with some occasional trash talking and side
> stories.
> > You don't send in one command at a time. You send in a ten round
> (or twenty
> > round, lately it's been twenty round) strategy of what you plan on
> doing each
> > round (round 1: block round 2: Lightning Kick of Satan 3: Japanese
> Redeye
> > etc.) Then at the bottom you put down various if-thens (IF my
> opponent throws
> > a flamming goober at me THEN abort to jump, that sort of thing.)
> >
> > > 2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should
> they
> > > have? do you have a standard?
> >
> > Just a basic starting character w/out cybernetics/hybrid
> backgrounds. If
> > you're using a style that's not in the books or other house rules,
> you'll have
> > to run them by Rinaldo "Tournament God" Gambetta.
> >
> > That should be enough to get you started. Rinaldo will be kind
> enough to point
> > out any errors I've made (preferably in all caps so I don't miss
> them).
> >
> > > Matt
> >
> > =====
> > staredown@r... http://www.workspot.net/~staredown
> >
> > "We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> > --we merely expect them to try."
> > -- Robert Heinlein
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10366 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
I see a conversion in a netbook: The book is New Legends by Derrik Chen (He
is member of this list I belive).

Brazilian Jujutsu

Brazilian Jujutsu is a punishing art based off of the original art of
Jujutsu. Its trademarks are a variety of painful and damaging grabs, holds,
and throws.
A previously obscure martial art, it has gained popularity in recent years
by the Gracie family of Brazil, as well as exposure on the underground
fighting circuits. What it lacks in finesse and precision, it more than
makes up for in strength and power.
Schools: Brazilian Jujutsu is become more widely available in recent years.
Members:. Anybody can join a school, but practitioners of this particular
style tend to lean more towards large, muscular men.
Concepts: Professional fighter, bouncer, self-defense instructor.
Initial Chi: 1
Initial Willpower: 6
Quote: "Let's rumble."
Maneuvers:
Punch: Ear Pop 2, Head Butt 1, Banishing Punch 3,
Kick: Wounded Knee 2,
Block: Deflecting Punch 1,
Grab: Air Throw 1, Back Breaker 2, Bear Hug 1, Brain Cracker 1, Grappling
Defense 3, Head Bite 2, Iron Claw 4, Neck Choke 1, Stomach Pump 3, Thigh
Press 2, Joint Break 3, Joint Lock 2, Disengage 2, Dislocate Limb 3, Sleeper
3, Spinning Neck Lock 2, Face Drive 1, Fish Hook 1, Head Butt Hold 2, Eye
Rake 1, Pin 2, Improved Pin 2, Leg Scoop 1
Athletics: Air Smash 1,
Focus: Common maneuvers.



----- Original Message -----
From: <throwrocks@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:04 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Brazilian Jiu Jitsu


> Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG yet???
>
> If not, I probably will.
>
> I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and
> it ROCKS!!!
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
Group: streetfighter Message: 10367 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
I always think Akuma is brother of Ryu´s master Gouken.
----- Original Message -----
From: erik justiniano <eriklee1977@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Father and Son


> PROVE IT....
>
>
> >From: throwrocks@...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Father and Son
> >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:44:53 -0000
> >
> >No Ryu does not is Akumas son...
> >:)
> >
> >-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...> wrote:
> > > By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10368 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Akuma is not a german businessman, like ryus father...

Plus theres the little fact that capcom never said anything like this
at all.

Who would akuma possibly have sex with.

and prove ANYONES not akumas son... doesnt mean its true.

if there related in your campaign thats fine, but as far as official
capcom shit goes akuma is not ryus father.

I could ask you to prove dhalsims not an alien, adon can speak,
zangiefs not a shaved bear etc.. and just cause there is no proof to
the contrary doesnt mean these things are true.

it would just mean im reaching, like you.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...> wrote:
> PROVE IT....
>
>
> >From: throwrocks@b...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> >To: streetfighter@y...
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Father and Son
> >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:44:53 -0000
> >
> >No Ryu does not is Akumas son...
> >:)
> >
> >-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...>
wrote:
> > > By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son
> >
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10369 From: Wayne French Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Funniest question I have read in a while
Um, ever read the streetfighter book?

It states his fathr is a german business man.

That a far cry from a demonic Japanese warrior

Although it would be a fun stiry line if you don't mind ripping off star
wars . .

Why is it that every bad guy seem to be every good guys father?

heheh

Later all
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10370 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Good point- plus, there's the concept of 'burden of proof'. Whoever
brought up the idea should PROVE IT, not someone who disputes the
claim. ;) In an individual world, sure, the idea might work. But as
Matt says, Ryu's pop was a businessman (I thought his father was
Japanese, and his mom was German... ah well, a moot point).

--- In streetfighter@y..., throwrocks@b... wrote:
> Akuma is not a german businessman, like ryus father...
>
> Plus theres the little fact that capcom never said anything like
this
> at all.
>
> Who would akuma possibly have sex with.
>
> and prove ANYONES not akumas son... doesnt mean its true.
>
> if there related in your campaign thats fine, but as far as
official
> capcom shit goes akuma is not ryus father.
>
> I could ask you to prove dhalsims not an alien, adon can speak,
> zangiefs not a shaved bear etc.. and just cause there is no proof
to
> the contrary doesnt mean these things are true.
>
> it would just mean im reaching, like you.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...>
wrote:
> > PROVE IT....
> >
> >
> > >From: throwrocks@b...
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@y...
> > >To: streetfighter@y...
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Father and Son
> > >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:44:53 -0000
> > >
> > >No Ryu does not is Akumas son...
> > >:)
> > >
> > >-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son
> > >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10371 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Interesting... come to think about it, I'm really surprised that
someone hasn't questioned the meteor's nature. Hmmm... some ideas:

1) Solidified chi, corrupted by it having been brought into the
material world (working by the concept that being 'material' goes
against its nature).

2) Instead of containing a lifeform, perhaps it IS a lifeform?

3) That satellite idea beckons to an Aberrant origin... :)

4) Is it the only one? Perhaps others like it are not in the form of
a meteor... perhaps when brought together, they unleash some sort of
monster, or a benevolent being that will grant an honorable fighter a
single wish (Dragonball anyone?)

Thoughts? BTW, thanks to everyone for the Ler Drit ideas. :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., razaarfxz@h... wrote:
> The Ler Drit discussion
> has got me thinking;
> What is the true nature
> of the Meteor?
> Does it contain an alien lifeform
> with immense psychic powers?
> Is it a universal source
> of magical energy?
> Is it a burned-out russian sattelite?
>
> I'd like to hear
> your speculations...
>
> The powers that Ler Drit
> contains are vaguely similar in
> outlook compared to kabaddi. (remember, I said vaguely :1)
> Yet, they both flame.
> But the means to achieve
> the power's mastery is different.
> Ler Drit is STRENGTH,
> while Kabaddi is Balance.
>
>
> Herr Tevik
Group: streetfighter Message: 10372 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
--- Jonathan Combs <doc_mental@...> wrote:
> Interesting... come to think about it, I'm really surprised that
> someone hasn't questioned the meteor's nature. Hmmm... some ideas:



It's an obvious one, I admit, but in one of my campaigns the meteor was the
Gaia representation of the Wyrm.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10373 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
--- erik justiniano <eriklee1977@...> wrote:
> PROVE IT....

Actually, it's an accepted scientific fact that you can't prove a negative
statement.

Ironic, don't you think?

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10374 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: "The REAL World Warriors"
--- throwrocks@... wrote:
> I was thinking of doing a section of my page called "The REAL World
> Warriors" with a map you click on to view character
> sheet/moves/styles of REAL PEOPLE from that locale.
>
> Example:
>
> Click Rio De Jenaro and See Royce Gracies Sheet moves and style. also
> Marco Huas
>
> Click Japan, See Sakurabas sheet.
>
> Click America, see Mark coleman, ken shamrock, kathy long
>
> Click Holland see Remco Pardiue
>
> Click China to see Jackie Chan and Jet Li
>
> Click Russia to see Oleg Taktarov
>
> Would anyone be interested in this or am I wasting my time??

That would be cool. A name or two to add to your list:

Maestro William M. Gaugler, Director of the Fencing Masters Program at San Jose
State University, California

Adam Crown, founer of IFV (another fencer). Based in Ithaca, New York

Sonny Chiba. Unfortunately, I know diddly squat about Mr. Chiba.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10375 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
It's been hinted at in Street Fighter Alpha: the Animation (which I bought
on DVD recently, w00t!) that Akuma *might* be Ryu's father. Although the
storyline is a little muddled (and the movie badly animated IMO, but I
digress), here is what we discover about Ryu's lineage;

Ryu was left with Gouken by his mother, who claimed she had "good reasons"
to do so. She then fled to Brazil and had a second son, named Shen.

Shen later tracked down Ryu and revealed he had the power of Dark Hadou.
When questioned, he said that he learned it from his father.

Okay, so who was Shen's father? Shen is much younger than Ryu, and if they
share the same father then Ryu's mother's attempt to flee the bastard did no
good, as he was still with her about a decade later. But if they didn't
share the same father then there are multiple folks out there with Dark
Hadou running around.

When Ryu questions Akuma about his past, Akuma says "the path I walk, I walk
alone."

this could be interpreted multiple ways.

guess we won't know until there's a sequel.

on the subject of Ler Drit, it's already been mentioned that it's a
real-world style. Watching Bison from the original Street Fighter II games
suggests a Thai style to his kicks, and knee strikes, which tells me that
the real-world Ler Drit combined with psychic powers is his style. However,
one could then postulate that the Thai military either switched to straight
Muay Thai or just stopped telling people it trained them in Ler Drit to
avoid the stigma, and Ler Drit became Bison's own style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10376 From: marnic@bol.com.br Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
> Interesting... come to think about it, I'm really
surprised that
> someone hasn't questioned the meteor's nature.
Hmmm... some ideas:
>

A good point indeed. I have some suggestions myself.

1) Demonic artifacts. As far as anyone knows, very few
people have really seen that thing to say if it's really
a big blue stone. As far as we know the "pieces" given
to Theons could simply be some thing like a wyrm fetish
or similar. The only to really see the big stone was
"The Pugilist" and who might say if it wasn't just a
prop ?

2) Instead of containing a lifeform, perhaps it IS a
lifeform?
>
Looking at the demonic power from another angle. In
"Rite of Passage" a history is told of how Narthul's, a
talon of the wyrm, was sealed in a falling star through
the use of powerful rituals. Then, in modern times, a
group of mining enterprises is atracted to the mountain
where the meteor lodged itself millenia ago, because the
wyrm being's influence made the area a powerful uranium
vein. Familiar, ain't it ?

3) And what abouthe elementals & animal hybrids ? What
if this powerful rock or whatever it is, has been
altering slowly beings all through the would. It colud
be that mostly it only gets to those who are potentially
"gifted", and it's altering it from afar, but guys who
foul up with the stone itself are altering nature's
balance, a thing that's much talked of when discussing
both elementals & hybrids. Another possibility is that
the elementals and hybrids appeared to OPPOSE the
crescent influence of the Stone upon the world...

> 4) Is it the only one? Perhaps others like it are not
in the form of
> a meteor... perhaps when brought together, they
unleash some sort of
> monster, or a benevolent being that will grant an
honorable fighter a
> single wish (Dragonball anyone?)
>

Curious idea. Another thing. Remember one character from
Contenders, Ravana ? Has anyone taken a look at WHAT
Ravana is in Hindu myth ?

It seems those will be interesting times... Marnic


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Group: streetfighter Message: 10377 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
I pondered it once, but after seeing BJJ in action I figured it was a boring
style.

Effective, yes, but who wants to watch a Street Fight where two guys circle
each other for three minutes and then one knocks the other down and rolls
around with him in a package for the next two minutes? BJJ fighters would
have Glory ratings so low Rank 1s would be laughing at them.

-----Original Message-----
From: throwrocks@... <throwrocks@...>
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Brazilian Jiu Jitsu


>Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG yet???
>
>If not, I probably will.
>
>I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and
>it ROCKS!!!
>
>
>Matt
>
>
>
>
>
Group: streetfighter Message: 10378 From: marnic@bol.com.br Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
> It's been hinted at in Street Fighter Alpha: the
Animation (which I bought
> on DVD recently, w00t!) that Akuma *might* be Ryu's
father. Although the
> storyline is a little muddled (and the movie badly
animated IMO, but I
> digress), here is what we discover about Ryu's lineage;
>

I saw Alpha The animation too. Incredible how something
can totally attract & frustrate ya at the same time. :)

>
> on the subject of Ler Drit, it's already been
mentioned that it's a
> real-world style. Watching Bison from the original
Street Fighter II games
> suggests a Thai style to his kicks, and knee strikes,
which tells me that
> the real-world Ler Drit combined with psychic powers
is his style. However,
> one could then postulate that the Thai military either
switched to straight
> Muay Thai or just stopped telling people it trained
them in Ler Drit to
> avoid the stigma, and Ler Drit became Bison's own
style.
>

Guys, i just remembered something interesting: In the
basic Streetfighter book, when discussing a revenge
plot, there's a flashback scene of Guile and Charlie (or
Nash, which do you prefer) chained in Bison's hans,
while he still was in Thailand. The scene describes
Charlie being killed (having his life-force drained or
maybe brainwashed) by Bison with psychic powers. Well
before his goin' to Mriganka. It seemswe have another
twist here, friends...


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Group: streetfighter Message: 10379 From: Karl-Erlend Mikalsen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Ler Drit is actually the military version of Muay-Thai, Thai Kick Boxing, used by the Thai militia. Thats what I have heard anyway. Could someone back it up or smash it down?
It does seem a little overkill to have a more efficent and more deadly version of Muay-Thai though. Thouse guys are scary.

PS! Has anyone made stats for the nordic style Glima?


----- Original Message -----
From: marnic <marnic@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:36 AM
Subject: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?


Interesting idea that of Soul Power, but from what i
know (from people who have played the Alpha series one
too many times), Roses power is a combination of family
training/mystic inheritance, much like the Kusanagis'
flame powers in the KoF series. As a matter of fact,
Bison STOLE a good part of his "psychic powers" from
Rose's father, the reason why she went after him & (lame)
explanation for Bison being more powerful in Street
Fighter Alpha than in Street Fighter II.

> TO erik justiniano
> > That is if you follow the book's background. I'm not
sure but I
> > heard that Ler Drit is real fighting style and if it
is real then
> > M.Bison didn't created, just used it, as any
martial artist would
> > use it's style for any of his purposes...
>

Sincerely, i have practiced read about martial arts
since i was 5 years old (i'm 24 years old), several
different arts. A good part of the guys i have a habit
of playing with are real martial artists too. And i
sincerely have never ever heard of Ler Drit as a real
martial arts style. The name means what, anyway ? it may
exist for real and i just didn't luck out of hearing
about it, but i'm doubtful for now. If anyone could get
me something on it, i would be very interested.

Marnic


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Group: streetfighter Message: 10380 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
Well, here's a website mentioned earlier

http://www.usmta.com/Fighting%20Systems%20Content.htm

As for the 'stigma' someone mentioned for Ler Drit, that's the whole
idea. Cross has lost his memory, but not his fighting skills. He
used to be a bad man, but was rescued/brought back to health by a
kind hearted hermit. So, he knows these somewhat nasty moves, but
doesn't know why... and why do people treat him the way they do in
Street Fights? What IS it about his style that bothers them?
(Questions he asks himself)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Karl-Erlend Mikalsen" <wickedragon@h...>
wrote:
> Ler Drit is actually the military version of Muay-Thai, Thai Kick
Boxing, used by the Thai militia. Thats what I have heard anyway.
Could someone back it up or smash it down?
> It does seem a little overkill to have a more efficent and more
deadly version of Muay-Thai though. Thouse guys are scary.
>
> PS! Has anyone made stats for the nordic style Glima?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: marnic <marnic@b...>
> To: <streetfighter@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?
>
>
> Interesting idea that of Soul Power, but from what i
> know (from people who have played the Alpha series one
> too many times), Roses power is a combination of family
> training/mystic inheritance, much like the Kusanagis'
> flame powers in the KoF series. As a matter of fact,
> Bison STOLE a good part of his "psychic powers" from
> Rose's father, the reason why she went after him & (lame)
> explanation for Bison being more powerful in Street
> Fighter Alpha than in Street Fighter II.
>
> > TO erik justiniano
> > > That is if you follow the book's background. I'm not
> sure but I
> > > heard that Ler Drit is real fighting style and if it
> is real then
> > > M.Bison didn't created, just used it, as any
> martial artist would
> > > use it's style for any of his purposes...
> >
>
> Sincerely, i have practiced read about martial arts
> since i was 5 years old (i'm 24 years old), several
> different arts. A good part of the guys i have a habit
> of playing with are real martial artists too. And i
> sincerely have never ever heard of Ler Drit as a real
> martial arts style. The name means what, anyway ? it may
> exist for real and i just didn't luck out of hearing
> about it, but i'm doubtful for now. If anyone could get
> me something on it, i would be very interested.
>
> Marnic
>
>
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10381 From: Soldar Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: (no subject)
I know nothing about Glima, other than it's a sport...(now?)
Maybe this will help? I found it interresting...

http://www.diku.dk/students/novice/glima.html
Group: streetfighter Message: 10382 From: azathoth05@aol.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet.
Those who have seen Street Fighter Alpha may recall that the meteor itself
communicated with Bison and at times even seemed to be the brains behind the
two.  Either he really is THAT Crazy or the thing is sentinent.  Beyond that
you'll have to draw your own conclusions.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10383 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
and karate is boring compared to hurricane kicks and dragon punches...

If i converted it id convert the concept but make it flashy and
workable. like something should be in sf...

btw, ever notice sean is from brazil (sf3) and although hes shotokan
he has a double leg takedown and then punches from the mounted
position???

Lil hint of BJJ i think..

Thats how i would do it, Takedown, Ground move then your both back on
your feet.

Of course theyd have groundfighting too.
but they couldnt keep the whole fight on the ground like they do in
real life.

Matt

p.s. plus the founder of Gracie Jiu Jitsu, had an open challenge to
any fighter of any style in the world to fight him no holds barred
(and maintained a very ryu-esque record). it doesnt get more sf than
that!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@s...> wrote:
> I pondered it once, but after seeing BJJ in action I figured it was
a boring
> style.
>
> Effective, yes, but who wants to watch a Street Fight where two
guys circle
> each other for three minutes and then one knocks the other down and
rolls
> around with him in a package for the next two minutes? BJJ
fighters would
> have Glory ratings so low Rank 1s would be laughing at them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: throwrocks@b... <throwrocks@b...>
> To: streetfighter@y... <streetfighter@y...>
> Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:04 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
>
>
> >Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG
yet???
> >
> >If not, I probably will.
> >
> >I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
and
> >it ROCKS!!!
> >
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Group: streetfighter Message: 10384 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> Actually, it's an accepted scientific fact that you can't prove a
negative
> statement.
>
> Ironic, don't you think?
>
> =====
> staredown
-------------------------------------------------

Well I guess science is always right huh:)

Im a little rusty but:

when exactly did the universe stop revolving around the earth again?
I cant put my finger on it but at some point everything changed and
we started revolving around the sun.

you know, way back before erosion caused the flat earth to chip away
and become more rounded....

when was that???

Matt
(just hackin on ya)
Group: streetfighter Message: 10385 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: "The REAL World Warriors"
Thanks for the positive feedback chris.
I prefer to keep away from duelists though, but I like fencing too.
M

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> That would be cool. A name or two to add to your list:
>
> Maestro William M. Gaugler, Director of the Fencing Masters Program
at San Jose
> State University, California
>
> Adam Crown, founer of IFV (another fencer). Based in Ithaca, New
York
>
> Sonny Chiba. Unfortunately, I know diddly squat about Mr. Chiba.
>
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>
> "We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> --we merely expect them to try."
> -- Robert Heinlein
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10386 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
SF:STG is a rpg based on a video game.

if you want to base your world around the events in a anime thats ok
but every lil piece of crap that says streetfighter on it is not
official.

There is the sf series, the sf animated move, the US live action
movie for gods sake, the sakura comic book (where karin came from),
the three comic book, the alpha movie and probly a bunch of other
crap i cant think of.

So please dont act like every movie is a carved in stone set of rules
put out with forethought by capcom or I will have to get jiggy and
release the conversion table for Bison Bucks to US dollars, and a hex
map of Bisonopolis. also detailing how zangief and deejay are evil
and blanka is charlie and dhalsims a scientist, (the list goes on)

last i checked akumas not even in sf:stg (unless theres a NEW book
out [chuckle])
:)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@s...> wrote:
> It's been hinted at in Street Fighter Alpha: the Animation (which I
bought
> on DVD recently, w00t!) that Akuma *might* be Ryu's father.
Although the
> storyline is a little muddled (and the movie badly animated IMO,
but I
> digress), here is what we discover about Ryu's lineage;
>
> Ryu was left with Gouken by his mother, who claimed she had "good
reasons"
> to do so. She then fled to Brazil and had a second son, named Shen.
>
> Shen later tracked down Ryu and revealed he had the power of Dark
Hadou.
> When questioned, he said that he learned it from his father.
>
> Okay, so who was Shen's father? Shen is much younger than Ryu, and
if they
> share the same father then Ryu's mother's attempt to flee the
bastard did no
> good, as he was still with her about a decade later. But if they
didn't
> share the same father then there are multiple folks out there with
Dark
> Hadou running around.
>
> When Ryu questions Akuma about his past, Akuma says "the path I
walk, I walk
> alone."
>
> this could be interpreted multiple ways.
>
> guess we won't know until there's a sequel.
>
> on the subject of Ler Drit, it's already been mentioned that it's a
> real-world style. Watching Bison from the original Street Fighter
II games
> suggests a Thai style to his kicks, and knee strikes, which tells
me that
> the real-world Ler Drit combined with psychic powers is his style.
However,
> one could then postulate that the Thai military either switched to
straight
> Muay Thai or just stopped telling people it trained them in Ler
Drit to
> avoid the stigma, and Ler Drit became Bison's own style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10387 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:

> As for the 'stigma' someone mentioned for Ler Drit, that's the
whole
> idea. Cross has lost his memory, but not his fighting skills. He
> used to be a bad man, but was rescued/brought back to health by a
> kind hearted hermit. So, he knows these somewhat nasty moves, but
> doesn't know why... and why do people treat him the way they do in
> Street Fights? What IS it about his style that bothers them?
> (Questions he asks himself)
> ]


Like i said before, if he really is a jolly great guy now he'll stop
using the mind raping dark powers of ler drit as soon as he puts 2
and 2 together. be JKD.

Also, Is bison a tard in your world? Losing your memory and losing
your very nature are two different things. Why would bison EVER
train someone in his style iff they possessed such a remarkable
capacity for good????

He corrupts ryu into evil ryu in one of the game endings but
corrupting him and teaching him ler drit are 2 different things!
Whoever an evil genius like bison would choose as his pupil would
have to be someone VERY evil indeed. and a bump on the head might
make an evil fuck forget his past, but then he'd just be an evil fuck
who couldnt remember anything... Amnesia doesnt change your
alignment.
Group: streetfighter Message: 10388 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Polls
Does anyone on this board answer the polls??

geez

:)
Group: streetfighter Message: 10389 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
only reason I brought it up is because the opening of the anime says
"Original story by CAPCOM". So I'd wager they had a hand in writing it...

-----Original Message-----
From: throwrocks@... <throwrocks@...>
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie
animals


>SF:STG is a rpg based on a video game.
>
>if you want to base your world around the events in a anime thats ok
>but every lil piece of crap that says streetfighter on it is not
>official.
>
>There is the sf series, the sf animated move, the US live action
>movie for gods sake, the sakura comic book (where karin came from),
>the three comic book, the alpha movie and probly a bunch of other
>crap i cant think of.
>
>So please dont act like every movie is a carved in stone set of rules
>put out with forethought by capcom or I will have to get jiggy and
>release the conversion table for Bison Bucks to US dollars, and a hex
>map of Bisonopolis. also detailing how zangief and deejay are evil
>and blanka is charlie and dhalsims a scientist, (the list goes on)
>
>last i checked akumas not even in sf:stg (unless theres a NEW book
>out [chuckle])
>:)
>
>--- In streetfighter@y..., "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@s...> wrote:
>> It's been hinted at in Street Fighter Alpha: the Animation (which I
>bought
>> on DVD recently, w00t!) that Akuma *might* be Ryu's father.
>Although the
>> storyline is a little muddled (and the movie badly animated IMO,
>but I
>> digress), here is what we discover about Ryu's lineage;
>>
>> Ryu was left with Gouken by his mother, who claimed she had "good
>reasons"
>> to do so. She then fled to Brazil and had a second son, named Shen.
>>
>> Shen later tracked down Ryu and revealed he had the power of Dark
>Hadou.
>> When questioned, he said that he learned it from his father.
>>
>> Okay, so who was Shen's father? Shen is much younger than Ryu, and
>if they
>> share the same father then Ryu's mother's attempt to flee the
>bastard did no
>> good, as he was still with her about a decade later. But if they
>didn't
>> share the same father then there are multiple folks out there with
>Dark
>> Hadou running around.
>>
>> When Ryu questions Akuma about his past, Akuma says "the path I
>walk, I walk
>> alone."
>>
>> this could be interpreted multiple ways.
>>
>> guess we won't know until there's a sequel.
>>
>> on the subject of Ler Drit, it's already been mentioned that it's a
>> real-world style. Watching Bison from the original Street Fighter
>II games
>> suggests a Thai style to his kicks, and knee strikes, which tells
>me that
>> the real-world Ler Drit combined with psychic powers is his style.
>However,
>> one could then postulate that the Thai military either switched to
>straight
>> Muay Thai or just stopped telling people it trained them in Ler
>Drit to
>> avoid the stigma, and Ler Drit became Bison's own style.
>
>
>
>
>
Group: streetfighter Message: 10390 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
hehe. That's why there's so few Ler Drit practitioners in my game. Bison
is too paranoid to reveal his secrets to anyone he can't keep under his
thumb, lest they become powerful enough to challenge him.

-----Original Message-----
From: throwrocks@... <throwrocks@...>
To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:17 PM
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?


>--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
>
>> As for the 'stigma' someone mentioned for Ler Drit, that's the
>whole
>> idea. Cross has lost his memory, but not his fighting skills. He
>> used to be a bad man, but was rescued/brought back to health by a
>> kind hearted hermit. So, he knows these somewhat nasty moves, but
>> doesn't know why... and why do people treat him the way they do in
>> Street Fights? What IS it about his style that bothers them?
>> (Questions he asks himself)
>> ]
>
>
>Like i said before, if he really is a jolly great guy now he'll stop
>using the mind raping dark powers of ler drit as soon as he puts 2
>and 2 together. be JKD.
>
>Also, Is bison a tard in your world? Losing your memory and losing
>your very nature are two different things. Why would bison EVER
>train someone in his style iff they possessed such a remarkable
>capacity for good????
>
>He corrupts ryu into evil ryu in one of the game endings but
>corrupting him and teaching him ler drit are 2 different things!
>Whoever an evil genius like bison would choose as his pupil would
>have to be someone VERY evil indeed. and a bump on the head might
>make an evil fuck forget his past, but then he'd just be an evil fuck
>who couldnt remember anything... Amnesia doesnt change your
>alignment.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Group: streetfighter Message: 10391 From: marnic Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: SV: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?, and Glima?
> Also, Is bison a tard in your world? Losing your
memory and losing
> your very nature are two different things. Why would
bison EVER
> train someone in his style iff they possessed such a
remarkable
> capacity for good????
>

If anything, Bison's failures, (Theons & Revenants) are
a good show of the wickedness involved in getting taught
Ler Drit by Bison. One way or another, you'll end up as
shit.

> Whoever an evil genius like bison would choose as his
pupil would
> have to be someone VERY evil indeed. and a bump on
the head might
> make an evil fuck forget his past, but then he'd just
be an evil fuck
> who couldnt remember anything... Amnesia doesnt
change your
> alignment.

Couldn't put it in a better way myself. Only "plausible"
explanation i could come up for him being trained in Ler
Drit, but not being the sicko he's supposed to be is
that he was taught by a pupil of Bison who misjudged
him, or that he was a repentant member of the Dark
Kabbadi monks that taught and still serve Bison. Take it
or throw it, but it's a suggestion.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 10392 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 2/16/2001
Subject: Re: Polls
I've had the same problems, and with "important" stuff. I was getting polls on rules a while back, and the results were like 9 or ten people (this list has a hundred people?)....
 
Scott
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Polls

Does anyone on this board answer the polls??

geez

:)


Group: streetfighter Message: 10393 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Memory loss and evil
Losing one's memory won't change one's alignment, but not everyone is
inherently evil or good. Events can guide one's life in a certain
direction and forgetting about them can let one begin anew.

On a side note:

I thought from the very first SF2 videogame that it was hinted that
Blanka was Charlie?

Tony
"For you, that was the most important day of your life. For me, that was
Tuesday." - a friend of mine quoting M.Bison
Group: streetfighter Message: 10394 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Fathers, sons, Ler Drit, and manie furrie animals
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:58:40
-0500 "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...> writes:
> It's been hinted at in Street Fighter Alpha: the Animation (which I
> bought
> on DVD recently, w00t!) that Akuma *might* be Ryu's father.
> Although the
> storyline is a little muddled (and the movie badly animated IMO, but
> I
> digress), here is what we discover about Ryu's lineage;
>
> Ryu was left with Gouken by his mother, who claimed she had "good
> reasons"
> to do so. She then fled to Brazil and had a second son, named Shen.

Although *spoiler* (not really)

















The kid seems to try to reveal to Ryu that he's not really his brother at
the end of the movie, but Ryu seems to think it doesn't matter.

Knight of the Black Rose
Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
"Absolute Destiny Tango"
Group: streetfighter Message: 10395 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
Ryu's father was a German businessman until he ate some bad sauerkraut
and became Akuma.

There actually was a meteor in the SF Alpha game?

I'm just running the SF Universe as:
Bison and Rose were part of an organization of powerful individuals who
split ways because of different viewpoints.
Bison developed the Psycho-Drive to enhance his Psycho-Power abilities
which is where his ungodly (superhuman) powers came from.
(This seems to be the hinted story of the SF Alpha 3 game.)
Rose challenged him in the first SF tournament and was believed by
everyone to have been killed by Bison.

This has set up my campaign for characters to work for the organization
led by Rose (secretly), sort of a Psychic Wars campaign. The characters
have never met her (her being alive is only rumored) and the Soul
Power/Aura Combat community is approaching a civil war, much to Bison's
delight.

Knight of the Black Rose
Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
"Absolute Destiny Tango"
Group: streetfighter Message: 10396 From: Wayne French Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Nature of the comet
I always thought it had something darkstalkers history with thier boss,
Pyro?

very powerful alien aftifact that enhances ones psychic powers to terrifying
levels (Bison), and give those who havent developed psychic powers, the
ability to use psychic powers.


Just my 2-cents
Gero
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10397 From: Thomas Merton Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
>PROVE IT....
>
> >No Ryu is not Akuma's son... > >-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik
>justiniano" wrote: > > By the way, does anyone think Ryu is Akuma's son >
>

Mr. Balaban: No, as we all know, the pull of gravity is equal to 9.8 meters
per second squared-

Thomas: PROVE IT!

Mr. Balaban: Mr. Merton, you know perfectly well that any formula we use is
explained in our textbook. We don't have time in class to detail every
single system we use.

Thomas: Oh, very well. Continue.

Mr. Balaban: As I was saying, if we drop a ball off the Sears Tower, which
is appproximate 1100 feet high, that's 682 meters-

Thomas: PROVE IT!

But anyways, outside of the "Evil Ryu" thing, which I'm still fuzzy on,
there's never been any evidence to support that possibility. Wouldn't
gouken feel compelled to tell Ryu that they are related. Wouldn't Akuma
shove it in Ryu's face, ala Darth Vader? Wo9uldn't Capcom have thrown us
this bone at some point? I just don't see it.

Having said that, it's always YOUR campaign. Give Ryu the bad dad.

The Hurtin'

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10398 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
No never..

Blanka was "Jimmy". He was lost in the jungle as a little boy.
His mom recognizes him by his shackles(?)

Charlie was lost in the jungle after adulthood and years of military
training.
Plus when alpha came out it was clear charlie didnt know capoeira.



--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> I thought from the very first SF2 videogame that it was hinted that
> Blanka was Charlie?
>
> Tony
> "For you, that was the most important day of your life. For me,
that was
> Tuesday." - a friend of mine quoting M.Bison
Group: streetfighter Message: 10399 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Father and Son
--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> Ryu's father was a German businessman until he ate some bad
sauerkraut
> and became Akuma.
>



No, No, No get it right.

He ate the dark burrito.
(dark hadou)

lol
Group: streetfighter Message: 10400 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Script Version 3
Greetings streetfighters,

Version 3 of my script is now availiable by clicking the picture of
necro @ http://www.geocities.com/necro6hit/ or in the "Files" section
of this yahoo group @ Files > Matt's > Script.

This version features support for animal hybrids, plus Every move
from Every book has been added.

Please use this script often and inform me of any bugs or fixes, (see
readme) or just plain typos or miscalculations.

Next version will support Cybernetics and then I'll be done except
for typo fixes etc.

Please give me feedback @ throwrocks@...

Later,
Matt
Group: streetfighter Message: 10401 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Spin Clothesline and Hurricane Kick
Has anyone ever considered that Spinning Clothesline (1 will) gets an
extra hit off than Hurricane/Whirlwind Kick (2 temporaries) plus it
doesn't have to move in a straight-line?

Clothesline hits all adjacent hexes before the movement begins while the
Kick moves have to move then attack.

I suppose the only balancer is that Kick has more maneuvers thus the
Hurricane/Whirlwind are not as good as the Spinning Clothesline.

Oh well.

Knight of the Black Rose
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10402 From: Josh Diemert Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
wrote:
> Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I
> need more fighters.
>
> Let�s review the list:
> 1- Delta (Josh Diemert)

WRONG! Remember, it's Artemis Steel trying to defend
her title. Delta would take to much work to remake
Rank 1.

> 2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
> 3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his
> stats.)
> 4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me
> again.)
> 5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)


Hmmm...a good selection...looks like Mr. Military
might have that rematch he wanted, eh, Pittman?
Anyway, to all those entered or who want to enter,
good luck.

Josh

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10403 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
If I can find his stats/ Mr. Military may be Mr. Retired....

Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Diemert <boomergold@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


>
> --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> wrote:
> > Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I
> > need more fighters.
> >
> > Let´s review the list:
> > 1- Delta (Josh Diemert)
>
> WRONG! Remember, it's Artemis Steel trying to defend
> her title. Delta would take to much work to remake
> Rank 1.
>
> > 2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
> > 3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his
> > stats.)
> > 4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me
> > again.)
> > 5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)
>
>
> Hmmm...a good selection...looks like Mr. Military
> might have that rematch he wanted, eh, Pittman?
> Anyway, to all those entered or who want to enter,
> good luck.
>
> Josh
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10404 From: Jonathan Combs Date: 2/17/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> Losing one's memory won't change one's alignment, but not everyone
is
> inherently evil or good. Events can guide one's life in a certain
> direction and forgetting about them can let one begin anew.
>

Case in point: Cammy. She was brainwashed by Bison as well, if I
recall correctly. Though, granted, she didn't know Ler Drit. In
response to the idea that Cross use Jeet Kune Do in place of Ler
Drit, I would agree except that I don't really care for Jeet Kune Do
as a style in SF- it's a concept, not a style, but in game terms,
that's a vague difference. I guess that when someone were to use
Style Lore and look at him (using JKD as his 'style'), they could
still see the basic Ler Drit stance, techniques, etc. Insofar as
Psychic Rage, etc; Cross wouldn't learn them, and I wouldn't
necessarily say that they define Ler Drit- or at least, they do, as
much as Fireball defines Shotokan Karate. Psycho Crusher
isn't 'evil'; it's just another Chi power, as far as the rules are
concerned. But, since Cross is 'getting away' from the evil
influence of Ler Drit, he could use JKD, and learn Psycho Crusher
eventually as a 6 power point power.

Anyways, I want to thank everyone again for the Honorable Ler Drit
ideas. Keep 'em coming, this is getting interesting as more people
put in their 2 cents! :)
Group: streetfighter Message: 10405 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
Oh god, i knew the cammy thing would come up..

Not everyone who works for shadowloo is bad hearted.
we only know cammy worked there, not what she was like..

if sum1 knows ler drit they were handpicked by bison and must
certainly be pretty evil no??

so its not fair to compare sum1 who worked for shadowloo to someone
HANDPICKED by bison. especially considering "worked for shadowloo"
can mean just about anything considering shadowloos scope..
hell if youve ever PAYED to enter a tournament your kind of working
for shadowloo, underground fighting is illegal and shadowloo has a
hand in everything thats illegal. your money just goes to further
shadowloos goals.

Plus, if you recall in sf2 new challengers, they show in her ending
the rest of her military squad saying crap like "nahh, you couldnt
have been with him" and "good to have you back" etc.. making it far
more likely that she was a good british agent first, then brainwashed
to be evil, then snapped out of it.

actually they dont really say ANYTHING in the game about brainwashed
do they, they just say she lost her memory and in sf2 bison tells her
they were lovers and her team sides with her and says no way. Bison
even acts surprised ("You dont remember?") if i remember correctly.

is all the brainwashing stuff a product of the animated movie or did
i miss something in a alpha 3 ending? (I had the import so it was in
japanese 4 me)

even if she WAS a totally blackhearted bitch working for shadowloo
who says that changed when she got amnesia? was there anything in
the storyline of the video games that really implied she was a goodie
goodie? all she did was beat her way through the other world warriors
(if you played with her) and won the tourney (joining the ranks of
sagat and bison in that respect, not exactly the good crowd) and then
demanded information about her past from the previous champion. hmm
beating the crap out of someone to force them to tell you something
isnt the most noble of causes. did cammy really make a big turnaround?

she could have been good before and after her amnesia or Evil both
before and after.. nothing really conclusive to say there was any
change in her alignment at all.

but like i said before, its HIS campaign.. Im only offering my
oppinion because he specifically posted here and asked us all for it.

I dont let anyone in my campaign take ler drit or spanish ninjitsu
unless were playing a badguy campaign. Vega is the worlds leading
assassin and Bison is the biggest crime boss ever and a master
psychic. I really dont see how a starting character could keep them
from "Tying up loose ends" if they went rouge and became goodguys.

Vega and bison are also far to high up the foodchain to assume they
made a silly mistake like overlooking something, assuming you were
dead, etc.. If bison let you get that close to him to learn ler drit
he would probly have permanent access to your mind through repeat
usings of mind controll and he would know if you were alive anywhere
on the planet and probably what you were doing.

He would just come and kill you before you got good enuff to stand
against him and you couldnt do anything about it and thats why there
are no goodguys with lerdrit or spanish ninjitsu (in my world)

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> --- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> > Losing one's memory won't change one's alignment, but not
everyone
> is
> > inherently evil or good. Events can guide one's life in a certain
> > direction and forgetting about them can let one begin anew.
> >
>
> Case in point: Cammy. She was brainwashed by Bison as well, if I
> recall correctly. Though, granted, she didn't know Ler Drit. In
> response to the idea that Cross use Jeet Kune Do in place of Ler
> Drit, I would agree except that I don't really care for Jeet Kune
Do
> as a style in SF- it's a concept, not a style, but in game terms,
> that's a vague difference. I guess that when someone were to use
> Style Lore and look at him (using JKD as his 'style'), they could
> still see the basic Ler Drit stance, techniques, etc. Insofar as
> Psychic Rage, etc; Cross wouldn't learn them, and I wouldn't
> necessarily say that they define Ler Drit- or at least, they do, as
> much as Fireball defines Shotokan Karate. Psycho Crusher
> isn't 'evil'; it's just another Chi power, as far as the rules are
> concerned. But, since Cross is 'getting away' from the evil
> influence of Ler Drit, he could use JKD, and learn Psycho Crusher
> eventually as a 6 power point power.
>
> Anyways, I want to thank everyone again for the Honorable Ler Drit
> ideas. Keep 'em coming, this is getting interesting as more people
> put in their 2 cents! :)
Group: streetfighter Message: 10406 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
I always trade that name sorry... :).
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Diemert <boomergold@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


>
> --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> wrote:
> > Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I
> > need more fighters.
> >
> > Let´s review the list:
> > 1- Delta (Josh Diemert)
>
> WRONG! Remember, it's Artemis Steel trying to defend
> her title. Delta would take to much work to remake
> Rank 1.
>
> > 2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
> > 3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his
> > stats.)
> > 4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me
> > again.)
> > 5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)
>
>
> Hmmm...a good selection...looks like Mr. Military
> might have that rematch he wanted, eh, Pittman?
> Anyway, to all those entered or who want to enter,
> good luck.
>
> Josh
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10407 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Well I wish you good luck in your search.
----- Original Message -----
From: J. Scott Pittman <joespitt@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> If I can find his stats/ Mr. Military may be Mr. Retired....
>
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Josh Diemert <boomergold@...>
> To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
>
>
> >
> > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I
> > > need more fighters.
> > >
> > > Let´s review the list:
> > > 1- Delta (Josh Diemert)
> >
> > WRONG! Remember, it's Artemis Steel trying to defend
> > her title. Delta would take to much work to remake
> > Rank 1.
> >
> > > 2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
> > > 3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his
> > > stats.)
> > > 4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me
> > > again.)
> > > 5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)
> >
> >
> > Hmmm...a good selection...looks like Mr. Military
> > might have that rematch he wanted, eh, Pittman?
> > Anyway, to all those entered or who want to enter,
> > good luck.
> >
> > Josh
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10408 From: marnic Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
> > I thought from the very first SF2 videogame that it
was hinted that
> > Blanka was Charlie?
> >

No hints at all on that. Only occasion ever that this
version appeared was in the Street Fighter Movie, with
Van Damme & Raul Julia. Considering that in that Movie
Dhalsim is some sort of mad scientist and Ryu & Ken a
pair of wiseguys/troublemakers, you can imagine how
seriously most fans take that thing .... :)

Marnic

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Group: streetfighter Message: 10409 From: anton_figueroa@juno.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:34:37 -0000 throwrocks@... writes:
> No never..
>
> Blanka was "Jimmy". He was lost in the jungle as a little boy.
> His mom recognizes him by his shackles(?)

OK, thanks.

> Charlie was lost in the jungle after adulthood and years of military
>
> training.
> Plus when alpha came out it was clear charlie didnt know capoeira.

Well, whoever Blanka is obviously learned the style after he became
Blanka. After all, it's far too superhuman for a normal person to learn.
(I know the SF RPG will not support this, but just look at him and his
moves!)

Knight of the Black Rose
Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
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Group: streetfighter Message: 10410 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: Memory loss and evil
look at anyone, and anyones moves :)
theyre all superhuman.

he supposedly learned it from a run away slave, blanka helped him to
survive in the jungles of brazil and in exchange the old man taught
him his art.



--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:

> Well, whoever Blanka is obviously learned the style after he became
> Blanka. After all, it's far too superhuman for a normal person to
learn.
> (I know the SF RPG will not support this, but just look at him and
his
> moves!)
>
> Knight of the Black Rose
> Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
> "Absolute Destiny Tango"
Group: streetfighter Message: 10411 From: throwrocks@bigfoot.com Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: sanbo cost
if siberian bear crusher says it costs 5 powe points in the moves
description, but says 4 power points in the list of sanbo moves under
the styles description, which one is right???

I need to know cause im doing up a character for gateway 2, so input
from the tournament owner is obviously appreciated..

Matt
Group: streetfighter Message: 10412 From: Danyal Herder Date: 2/18/2001
Subject: Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
Well, Rinaldo, you've always got my character, so go ahead and put him in,
please :)

Danyal Herder
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