--- Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...> wrote:

>
> --- Steve Karstensen
> <skarstensen@...> wrote:
> >
> > yea, well you're crazy.
> >
> > (It should be Snorlax.)
>
> Snorlax huh? That would be a snoozer.
>
> I'll go run and hide now...

Nah, you want to give your Street Fighters a real
challenge? One word....

MewTwo

'nuff said.

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Challenge? Naw, I just wanna see the look on Zangief's face when he
tries to grapple something that weighs 1000 pounds, only to have it roll
over on him and start snoring.

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--- Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...> wrote:

>
> --- Steve Karstensen
> <skarstensen@...> wrote:
> >
> > yea, well you're crazy.
> >
> > (It should be Snorlax.)
>
> Snorlax huh? That would be a snoozer.
>
> I'll go run and hide now...

Nah, you want to give your Street Fighters a real
challenge? One word....

MewTwo

'nuff said.

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We used to argue about this down here in Dallas, and
this is how we resolved it (before we saw the screen)

Say you don't put any dots in Athletics. Can you Move?
Of course you can, everybody can move. You just can't
move while doing something else (like Punching) So if
you put no dots in punch, can you still punch? Yes,
but your punches are weak.

Now we just use the one-dot rule from the screen, with
one exception; that everybody should be able to Move,
even with an Athletics rating of zero. Maybe we should
consider a house-rule vote?

BTW... what's the standing house rule on how the Basic
Grab works? Do you ignore it? Or is it a sustained
hold?

--- staredown@... wrote:

> Well, it does say on the storyteller's screen that
> the prereqs for
> the
> basic maneuvers are their technique at level 1.
> This is the same
> document that I heartily ignore since it has so many
> inconsistancies
> with the main book. Besides, even if they have an
> athletics of one,
> I
> think every character should have the move maneuver.
>
> "Thats not fair! They've got rocks! All we have
> are these machine
> guns!"
> -- Snidely Whiplash

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> with the main book. Besides, even if they have an athletics of one,
> I
> think every character should have the move maneuver.

That's true. I wouldn't disallow anyone the Move maneuver (unless they
have a disability). Without it, you couldn't go anywhere. Wow, a world
where people stand in place. I'd hate to need to go to the restroom.

Tony

I kind of figured that if you have no dots in punch, you could punch but
not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch would be STR with no
speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is no move called
"default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."

Tony

Personally, I wonder what they put in the water these days.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, karan wrote:

> Here is what my players just told me yesterday night.
> They form a new team, who wish to surprise their adversaries.
> Pure nonsense humor!!
>
> "So, what is our team's name?"
> "I know... The Evil Surfers from Hell!!!"
> "No, with such a name, all our adversaries will think we would fight
> with surfboards!!"
> "Heheheheh... That's the point! They will expect surfboards. Imagine
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Me, I do it differently (but then I've always been something of an
oddball). I think that if you got no dots in the Punch technique, sure -
you can punch. Doesn't hurt much - and in a _fighting_ context, your
punches are too weak to hurt anyone. So, if you've got an interrogation
vic... uh, subject tied up, and you slap him up a bit, you're free to do
that. Even without any dots in Punch. However, your punches are nothing in
a Street Fighter ring - wuss slapping with no real damaging power.

Same goes for kicks. And on a related note - personally, I use an
effective Athletics of 0 to simulate people without any Move in a fighting
context. Invalids, people in body casts, and so on. All of them have an
effective Athletics of 0 - no Move in a Street Fighter round.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Knight of the Black Rose wrote:

> I kind of figured that if you have no dots in punch, you could punch but
> not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch would be STR with no
> speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is no move called
> "default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."
>
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Move is a 3 for a character with no Special Maneuvers or Techniques that
decides to move.

I think that all characters in Street Fighter have the nine Techniques, even
if they are at 0. It makes sense. This way, a character with 0 in everything
can still try to use a quick punch or all of his strength behind a fierce
punch, and things like that. If he tries to block, he gains nothing to his
stamina because he doesn't really know how to block well, although he would
gain +2 speed and ignore knockdowns as per the normal rules.
If this is the case, then a normal human with no athletics training will
stay in place when making an attack and move 3 hexes when Moving or 1 when
Grabbing.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Boxe Polemic.


> Me, I do it differently (but then I've always been something of an
> oddball). I think that if you got no dots in the Punch technique, sure -
> you can punch. Doesn't hurt much - and in a _fighting_ context, your
> punches are too weak to hurt anyone. So, if you've got an interrogation
> vic... uh, subject tied up, and you slap him up a bit, you're free to do
> that. Even without any dots in Punch. However, your punches are nothing in
> a Street Fighter ring - wuss slapping with no real damaging power.
>
> Same goes for kicks. And on a related note - personally, I use an
> effective Athletics of 0 to simulate people without any Move in a fighting
> context. Invalids, people in body casts, and so on. All of them have an
> effective Athletics of 0 - no Move in a Street Fighter round.
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Knight of the Black Rose wrote:
>
> > I kind of figured that if you have no dots in punch, you could punch but
> > not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch would be STR with no
> > speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is no move called
> > "default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."
> >
> > Tony
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It´s a e-mail tournament where fighters of rank 9 fight for the right of no
restriction wish If you want more details ask me...

herder@... wrote:

> Well, I do have several characters, but what is the Ages
> Tournament? A tourney that all of you play? If so, could someone
> give me the info I need to get in?
>
> Danyal
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Max Power Style: Wrestiling Country: U.S.A Player: Yasuharu Konishi.

Appearance: Max is about 6' 6" tall, 280 pounds, and is bald... He wears a yellow one-piece bodysuit with a red cape and a red mushroom cloud on the front, with the word "POWER" on the cloud in gold letters. He is bald and barefoot.

Quote before fight: ".....!!!"

Vs

Joseph Masterson Style: Boxing/Sambo Country: Germany Player: Cliff Rice.

Appearance: Joseph Is only about 5'11" But is abseenly huge muscled he wears elbow pads and combat boodt in the ring his hands are taped up. He has brown hair cut similarly like balrogs and wears ripped blue jeans.

Quote before fight: "Watta ya gonna do when the biggest arms in the world come crushing down on you!"

Arena: The Guardian Island Temple a few groups of monks and workers are looking.


Move 1- Max Power block for combo (dizzy) and Joseph Masterson make a Jumping Fierce and move 4 hexes and hit Max Power receive: 5 points of damage.
Move 2- Joseph Masterson try to make a Neck Choke for combo but Max Power Flying Tackle for combo (dizzy) is more faster and Joseph Masterson receive: 3 points of damage and both fighters going to the ground (knockdown).
Move 3- Max Power is more faster using Braincracker than Joseph Masterson using Turn Punch and Joseph Masterson receive: 5 points of damage and Joseph Masterson stun!!! A strenght test of Max Power against Joseph Masterson and Joseph Masterson break the hold but still dizzy.
Move 4- Max Power flexes his muscles for the audience and shouts "Power!" at this moment Joseph Masterson is dizzy.
Move 5- Joseph Masterson try to make a Siberian Suplex but Max Power is more faster using Braincracker for combo (dizzy) and Joseph Masterson receive: 5 points of damage.
Move 6- Max Power release Joseph Masterson from hold and this one try to make a Torture Rack (Charge Turn Punch) but Max Power is more faster using Elbow Smash and Joseph Masterson receive: 3 points of damage and Joseph Masterson lost his balance and colapse falling over the ground is a
knockout.
Max Power win by knockout.

I was thinking about this litle conversation yesterday.
Focus techniques are not quite a mandatory for fighter.
It seems that all the chinese fighter with the exception of chunli
are close in fighters and seem to lack in focus techniques.
Gen
Fei long
Yun
Yang

All close in fighter. The addition of focus techniques adds difficulty but
is not a mandatory. There are many diffent types of focus techniques though.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:28:29 -0400
>
>not really. Again, talk to a Judo guy. Heck, talk to a Sanbo guy.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:11 PM
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>
>
> >I AM a judo stylist along with Jujitsu and free style grappling, believe
> >me, in the real world you can function without focus, but in street
>fighter
> >it would be kinda tough, that's my point. . . . .
> >
> >>Talk to a Judo stylist or Special Forces practitioner about a lack of
> >>Focus Techniques being "weak". ;)
> >>
> >>Combine some nice punch combos with a few Generic grabs and Brain
> >>Crackers and you could have a pretty amazing style.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
> >>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:18 AM
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
> >>
> >>
> >>I do believe club stats are in the street fighter guide. As for Wing
> >>Chun,
> >>it would be a crappy street fighter style, no focus, the only real moves
> >>they get are deflecting punch and Rekka Ken. I mean they get other
> >>moves,
> >>but they're all covered by basic moves. You're better off just using
> >>Kung Fu.
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>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:50:09 -0400
>
>
>Well, considering my wife's study of Wu Shu was only as "phys ed" in
>school, I don't think they went into too much detail on weapon
>techniques. I do know the couple of times we got into a heated argument
>I found myself on the receiving end of a pulled throat strike, though.
>;)
>
>I don't make her mad anymore.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:54 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
>
>
>Well, apparnatly weapons arnt chosen by wushu partitioners.
>Its based on body type and personality. It generally seems if you do
>Broadsword you do staff, Straight sword you do spear, Southern
>broadsword --
>southern staff.
>That doesnt mean you wont learn the other weapons You see them enough
>though.
>
>
>Do you know what the telecast was about?
>
>
> >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
> >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:52:09 -0400
> >
> >
> >she did a little bit of sword, but she never mentioned if they taught
> >her staff or not. The guy I see for my back treatments, she says, is a
> >master of sword.
> >
> >on a related note, there's a local TV station that broadcasts several
> >blocks of various Asian networks at night, so you can watch
> >Japanese/Korean/Chinese TV. She, naturally, watches the Chinese news
> >every night. I saw a brief clip during one highlight of a large group
> >of (female) Chinese soldiers dressed in camouflage practicing Kung Fu
>in
> >a courtyard. It was quite interesting.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:56 AM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
> >
> >
> >Erggghhh....Ahhh that weapon does to much damage for a Chinese
> >broadsword
> >and to little speed.
> >Im guessing your wife did broadsword as her short weapon when she did
> >Wushu.
> >So her long weapon was probably Staff, right?
> >
> > >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
> > >Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:13:24 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >just as a note, when I got my wife into Street Fighter she requested
>a
> > >Wu Shu swordswoman. I made her a fairly straightforward character
>with
> > >3 dots in Sword and a Chinese broadsword using the stats from
> >Contenders
> > >for a regular Broadsword (-1/+4/+0 I think).
> > >
> > >Quite simply, the woman kicked ass. ;)
> > >
> > >Well, until the players got slaughtered by a platoon of Battle
>Droids,
> > >but hey. No one's perfect.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk [mailto:leirbakk@...]
> > >Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:10 AM
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, brian fish wrote:
> > >
> > > > Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should
>be
> > >like
> > > > spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!
> > >
> > >You mean a Wu Shu Jien, or Chinese Broadsword? :) Anyways, they're
> > >probably something similar to the Rapier, actually, or +0 and +3 or
> > >something like that ;)
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MAn I think that thats the only move I really hat in the game.
I play it as a one time shot grab that gets through a block. Non sustained.
I figure it would have said sustained in the text.
The dont even say what it is.

>From: Yasuharu Konishi <robotomizer@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Boxe Polemic.
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>We used to argue about this down here in Dallas, and
>this is how we resolved it (before we saw the screen)
>
>Say you don't put any dots in Athletics. Can you Move?
>Of course you can, everybody can move. You just can't
>move while doing something else (like Punching) So if
>you put no dots in punch, can you still punch? Yes,
>but your punches are weak.
>
>Now we just use the one-dot rule from the screen, with
>one exception; that everybody should be able to Move,
>even with an Athletics rating of zero. Maybe we should
>consider a house-rule vote?
>
>BTW... what's the standing house rule on how the Basic
>Grab works? Do you ignore it? Or is it a sustained
>hold?
>
>--- staredown@... wrote:
> > Well, it does say on the storyteller's screen that
> > the prereqs for
> > the
> > basic maneuvers are their technique at level 1.
> > This is the same
> > document that I heartily ignore since it has so many
> > inconsistancies
> > with the main book. Besides, even if they have an
> > athletics of one,
> > I
> > think every character should have the move maneuver.
> >
> > "Thats not fair! They've got rocks! All we have
> > are these machine
> > guns!"
> > -- Snidely Whiplash
>
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No, I still allow all the basics to any character.
I think Its kinda neat that balrog could kick someone when there down as an
insult. Just give all the characters all the basic cards. Why shouldnt you
be able to feirce kick someone.

>From: Knight of the Black Rose <anton_figueroa@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Boxe Polemic.
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:48:38 -0400
>
>I kind of figured that if you have no dots in punch, you could punch but
>not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch would be STR with no
>speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is no move called
>"default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."
>
>Tony

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Max is still twitchy and hyper for a few seconds after
the fight ends. Years of steroid abuse and countless
head injuries have made him the human equivalent of a
pit bull on crack.

"Over already? Aw, I wanted to Suplex him..." His eyes
glaze over and he mutters "mmm...suplex..."

He snaps suddenly back into focus and seems genuinely
thrilled with his opponent's performance.

"The kid pulled out the Torture Rack?!? He's got some
cajones! Hope I don't have to fight him again... Now,
where do they keep the chicks around here? I got a
hankerin' for some spankerin'!"

He pulls a beer out of his tights and wanders off...

(Great fight Cliff... see you in the tournament!)

--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:

> Move 6- Max Power release Joseph Masterson from hold
> and this one try to make a Torture Rack (Charge Turn
> Punch) but Max Power is more faster using Elbow
> Smash and Joseph Masterson receive: 3 points of
> damage and Joseph Masterson lost his balance and
> colapse falling over the ground is a
> knockout.
> Max Power win by knockout.

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Yes, I very much appreciate your insights! I've pretty
much scrapped my original ideas (except the Wrist
Slam, I think that's neat) If I make a Wing Chun guy
I'll just pick and choose moves from Fei Long's style.
I'll just ignore anything that looks like Dragon
style.

If I end up making a duellist with convert-a-chux,
he'll most likely be JKD...

By the way, Robert, you should make a character for
the Ages tournament. I think there are some slots
still open, and it's sure to be fun... :)

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Well, speaking as someone who has never taken a single
martial arts lesson, I can say that if I throw a
roundhouse kick, I'm just as likely to fall on my butt
as I am to hit anybody with it. (Lucky me with
Athletics Zero) I can knock down a locked door with a
front kick, though. (If I focus) Please don't ask me
how I know that!!! ;)

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> No, I still allow all the basics to any character.
> I think Its kinda neat that balrog could kick
> someone when there down as an
> insult. Just give all the characters all the basic
> cards. Why shouldnt you
> be able to feirce kick someone.
>
>
> >From: Knight of the Black Rose
> <anton_figueroa@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Boxe Polemic.
> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:48:38 -0400
> >
> >I kind of figured that if you have no dots in
> punch, you could punch but
> >not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch
> would be STR with no
> >speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is
> no move called
> >"default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."
> >
> >Tony
>
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I don't use the basic grab in my game. Using it with a strong character with
no athletics and the same amount of dots in punch and grab nets the same
affect as using a punch that ignores blocks for 1 less speed and less damage.
I figure I'd better rip the move out of the book before any of my players
figure that out and start using it as easy block-ignoring strikes.

Don't feel bad, I have been taking various martial arts for the last five
years, and I STILL can't throw a decent roundhouse kick to save my life. As
an interesting note, has anyone ever tried to make a street fighter
character of themselves?
As for no dots in a technique, I would say if you hae no dots in punch, you
don't get the three basics and if you punch, you're probably more likely to
break you hand. I had a friend split open her knuckle the other day hitting
someone, if you don't have any dots, it means you have no skill in it at
all. Even one dot means you can do it, albeit crappy. I mean me for
example, I would give myself either one dot or no dots in kick, I can throw
a roundhouse kick, but I am more likely to fall down.

>Well, speaking as someone who has never taken a single
>martial arts lesson, I can say that if I throw a
>roundhouse kick, I'm just as likely to fall on my butt
>as I am to hit anybody with it. (Lucky me with
>Athletics Zero) I can knock down a locked door with a
>front kick, though. (If I focus) Please don't ask me
>how I know that!!! ;)
>
>--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:
>> No, I still allow all the basics to any character.
>> I think Its kinda neat that balrog could kick
>> someone when there down as an
>> insult. Just give all the characters all the basic
>> cards. Why shouldnt you
>> be able to feirce kick someone.
>>
>>
>> >From: Knight of the Black Rose
>> <anton_figueroa@...>
>> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Boxe Polemic.
>> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:48:38 -0400
>> >
>> >I kind of figured that if you have no dots in
>> punch, you could punch but
>> >not use any of the 3 basic punches (i.e. your punch
>> would be STR with no
>> >speed modifier). Same for kick. Although, there is
>> no move called
>> >"default punch." Maybe "Not so Strong Punch."
>> >
>> >Tony
>>
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Hmmm... If ya all take into consideration that a rank 1 StreetFgihter is a black belt martial arts practitioner, it would seem meaningfull that someone with 0 punch can throw a jab etc....


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Here you must take into account that focus is also the technique used to meditate, kiai, Qi Gong, and almost everything else in Chinese martial Arts. All Kung Fu styles have focus I would say...

-----Ronin-----


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On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 01:21:23 Robert Pascuttini wrote:
was thinking about this litle conversation yesterday.
Focus techniques are not quite a mandatory for fighter.
It seems that all the chinese fighter with the exception of chunli
are close in fighters and seem to lack in focus techniques.
Gen
Fei long
Yun
Yang

All close in fighter. The addition of focus techniques adds difficulty but
is not a mandatory. There are many diffent types of focus techniques though.


>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:28:29 -0400
>
>not really. Again, talk to a Judo guy. Heck, talk to a Sanbo guy.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:11 PM
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>
>
> >I AM a judo stylist along with Jujitsu and free style grappling, believe
> >me, in the real world you can function without focus, but in street
>fighter
> >it would be kinda tough, that's my point. . . . .
> >
> >>Talk to a Judo stylist or Special Forces practitioner about a lack of
> >>Focus Techniques being "weak". ;)
> >>
> >>Combine some nice punch combos with a few Generic grabs and Brain
> >>Crackers and you could have a pretty amazing style.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
> >>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:18 AM
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
> >>
> >>
> >>I do believe club stats are in the street fighter guide. As for Wing
> >>Chun,
> >>it would be a crappy street fighter style, no focus, the only real moves
> >>they get are deflecting punch and Rekka Ken. I mean they get other
> >>moves,
> >>but they're all covered by basic moves. You're better off just using
> >>Kung Fu.
> >>


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I am a black belt martial arts practitioner, let me put it to you this way,
the technique dots represent practice in a particular area of fighting.
Most Tae Kwon Do stylists even at black belt levels are utterly inept at
grappling. Most wrestlers cannot properly punch or kick. Anyone can do any
technique, but unless they have been properly trained they will do no real
damage.

>Hmmm... If ya all take into consideration that a rank 1 StreetFgihter is a

black belt martial arts practitioner, it would seem meaningfull that
someone with 0 punch can throw a jab etc....

>
>
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Not all chinese martial arts have focus. Wing Chun was designed without it
because it was designed to be an easily able to master form of Kung Fu.
Shui Chiao (spelling might be bad) is a chinese form of jujitsu which
likewise has no focus. Another thing is that I would not consider a Kiai as
focus training. Meditation definately would be, but believe me, a simple
kiai (not the stunning shout power, but a normal kiai) has nothing to do
with focus as expressed in street fighter at all.

>Here you must take into account that focus is also the technique used to

meditate, kiai, Qi Gong, and almost everything else in Chinese martial
Arts. All Kung Fu styles have focus I would say...

>
>-----Ronin-----
>
>
>--
>
>On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 01:21:23 Robert Pascuttini wrote:
> was thinking about this litle conversation yesterday.
>Focus techniques are not quite a mandatory for fighter.
>It seems that all the chinese fighter with the exception of chunli
>are close in fighters and seem to lack in focus techniques.
>Gen
>Fei long
>Yun
>Yang
>
>All close in fighter. The addition of focus techniques adds difficulty but
>is not a mandatory. There are many diffent types of focus techniques though.
>
>
>>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:28:29 -0400
>>
>>not really. Again, talk to a Judo guy. Heck, talk to a Sanbo guy.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:11 PM
>>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>>
>>
>> >I AM a judo stylist along with Jujitsu and free style grappling, believe
>> >me, in the real world you can function without focus, but in street
>>fighter
>> >it would be kinda tough, that's my point. . . . .
>> >
>> >>Talk to a Judo stylist or Special Forces practitioner about a lack of
>> >>Focus Techniques being "weak". ;)
>> >>
>> >>Combine some nice punch combos with a few Generic grabs and Brain
>> >>Crackers and you could have a pretty amazing style.
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
>> >>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:18 AM
>> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Duelist Tournament
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I do believe club stats are in the street fighter guide. As for Wing
>> >>Chun,
>> >>it would be a crappy street fighter style, no focus, the only real moves
>> >>they get are deflecting punch and Rekka Ken. I mean they get other
>> >>moves,
>> >>but they're all covered by basic moves. You're better off just using
>> >>Kung Fu.
>> >>
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Delta was stunned at the speed with which this gaudily
dressed madman defeated his opponent. Making a quick
decision, she stood up and pointed at Max Power.

"I challenge you."


(Sorry I didn't put in more, but it's 4:00 am, and I'm
tired. Rinaldo, use my current strategy one more
time.)

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Shaolin Community

You may have seen it on the old Kung Fu TV series.
You've heard it mentioned in magazines and movies. Yet
most people fail to realize that not only did Shaolin
Temple really exist, it still exists. In fact, it is
one of the major martial arts centers in China.
Throughout its 1,400-year history, there have been
three types of people in the Shaolin Temple community:
Buddhist monks, martial monks and the laity. Although
parts of their lives are similar, each group follows a
very different daily routine. The Buddhist monks come
to Shaolin after leaving their family with the
intention of making a lifelong struggle to attain
enlightenment. They are generally older and spend a
lot of time praying, meditating and reading
scriptures. Some of them were martial monks at one
time and are still quite skilled in kung fu. The
martial monks also live apart from their family, but
they do so to concentrate on kung fu. When their
master decides they have reached the highest level,
they may chose to become Buddhist monks or rejoin the
world. While they still meditate every day, most of
their time is spent practicing their martial art. The
laity is composed of people who are not monks but wish
to study at the temple. They come from different
professions and countries. Some of them lived at the
temple for a long time, while others visited only
occasionally.


Day in the Life

Early in the morning, the ringing of bells awakens
everyone at 4:30 for meditation. At 6:00, the Buddhist
monks gather for chanting, while the martial monks
start their morning exercise, which begins with a run
in the nearby mountains. Breakfast follows at 7:30.
The Buddhist monks spend the rest of the morning
meditating or doing chores. The martial monks train
from 9:00 to 11:30. Beginners start with stretching
and basic movements, including stances, jumps, kicks
and strikes. Most of the monks practice only these
moves for an entire year until they can show perfect
control and focus. Lunch comes next, followed by a
short nap. Afterward, the Buddhist monks meditate, and
the martial monks practice Kung fu from 2:30 to 5:30
p.m. At night, the Buddhist monks chant some more, and
the advanced martial monks practice secret techniques
that their masters have ordered them not to show
anyone else. Everyone hits the sack early to prepare
for the next day.


History of Shaolin

Around the year 496, the emperor of China presented an
Indian monk named Ba Tuo with a gift: the land upon
which Shaolin Temple now stands. The temple was built,
but it was not until the arrival of another Indian,
Bodhidharma, that it became important. Bodhidharma
created two lasting things: Chan Buddhism, which is
called Zen in Japanese; and the 18 movements
considered to be foundation of kung fu. These
movements, which were originally basic exercises for
monks who spent most of their time sitting in
meditation, became the foundation for many of Asia's
martial arts. Although it had its ups and downs,
Shaolin Temple ran fairly smoothly for the next 1,000
years. Chan became popular, and Shaolin kung fu grew
to contain more than 170 forms. During the 1800s,
however, the temple began to decline. Its monks were
harassed by corrupt officials and robbed by bandits.
In 1928 the temple was burned by a local warlord. In
the 1950s, China's communist government outlawed
martial arts practice. Shaolin kung fu was preserved
by a few peasants and monks who trained secretly at
night in the mountains. During the 1960s, young
Chinese soldiers attacked everything that reminded
them of their country's past- things like Shaolin
Temple, which got burned again. Only three monks chose
to remain at the ruins, and they were imprisoned for
their act of defiance. Two of them are still alive and
now live at the temple. Then the Chinese government
decided it wanted to preserve the nation's past.
Shaolin Temple was rebuilt. As soon as the public
found out the temple was once again accepting
students, thousands of Chinese boys came to learn its
secret fighting techniques. At present, five private
schools near the temple teach kung fu to some 6,000
Chinese students. The temple houses about 50 martial
monks. In 1988 the Chinese government opened its own
martial arts school next to the temple, where skilled
monks train Chinese and foreign martial artists.


Secret of Shaolin Kung Fu

The monks at Shaolin Temple teach students how to
improve their skills most efficiently. The first rule
is to practice hard. The monks have two popular
sayings: "First bitterness, then sweetness," and
"Shedding more sweat in time of peace mean less blood
in war." Second, the monks encourage students to
specialize. At Shaolin Temple, only one or two forms
are practiced daily. At advanced levels, a student
selects one weapon to perfect, usually the staff. The
ancient saying is, "I do not fear the 10,000 kicks you
have practiced once; I fear the one kick you have
practiced 10,000 times." That's good advice for all
martial artists.

One of of the greatest exponents of martial-arts to
have surfaced during the 20th century and now known
internationally is Li-Lien-Jie or Jet-Li as his
western name. Like the late Bruce Lee, he has also
risen to international stardom for his roles in Lethal
Weapon 4 (alongside Mel Gibson) and lately, the
well-acclaimed film: 'Romeo Must Die'. Jet-Li is one
of the first few successful Asian actors who has
finally step foot or rather, "tiger clawed" his way
into the glamourous Hollywood scene.

Li was born in Beijing, China, where, at the age of
11, he became the National Junior Champion of the
Beijing Wushu (martial arts) Team, a title he held for
the next four years. At 16, Li made his first film,
Shaolin Temple, which propelled him to instant stardom
and spawned two successful sequels. Li's other films
of note include Once Upon a Time in China, Tai Chi
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I make some rework on this style add more grabs fix some things but I think
this still fun.

Football Brawling

This cool style used by football players or that grabs runnings or knockdowns
manuvers only coincidence not chance this a result of hard training, lot of lot
of lots of beer boxes and Greek/Roman fight training in high school.
Members: Clear fact all of them are Football players sorry womans can´t make
it.
Schools: Any Football team.
Quote: Hey
Common thing: Huge size and less or none intellegence (the major part this only
the common but you can find a huge but very smart player)

Punch: Buffalo punch (1pt), Ear pop (2pt), Elbow smash (1pt), Widowmaker (1pt)
, Haymaker (1pt), Double punch (1pt),Headbutt (1pt)
Kick: Goal Hit Kick (3pt), Punt Hit Kick (1pt), Slide Kick (2pts).
Athletics: Running Yards (4pts), Ground Fighting (3pts), Jumping Shoulder Butt
(1pt)
Grabs: Braincracker (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt),Touchdown Bomb
(3pts), Aerial Touchdown Bomb (5pts), Suplex (1pt), Choke
Throw (2pts), Throw (1pt),Back Breaker (2pt),Neck Choke (2pt), Flying Tackle
(2pt), Pin (3pt), Improved Pin (3pt), Grabbling Defense (3pt), Face Slam
(3pts), Push (free)
Blocks: Common Manuvers.
Focus: Common Manuvers. But some rumors say a guy can throw Fireballs with his
hand and foot too.
Ops: The basic grab for this style is the Pull manuver.
New Manuvers

Punch:

Double punch (I don´t make this manuver but maybe someone don´t known) :
Fighter choose 2 basic punches and they hit enemy in same turn.
Speed: Variable.
Damage: Variable.
Move: Variable.

Kick:

Goal Hit Kick:

The fighter runs a lots and with all of his strenght give a high kick on the
ball... or should say the enemy far away, in a straight line, enemy
receives a great knockback and knockdown in the end if hit and the target isn´t
blocking if is blocking the guy only receive 1 hex from knockback, to the how
longer the guy will go: strength of user minus target stamina them make the
result x2 for but in a straight line. Ex: Jason Mercer a might football player
have Strenght 6 and his target have 4 in his stamina 6-4=2 so the target go 4
hexes and fall at the ground.
Power Points: Kick 4 Athletics 2. Football Brawling 3 pts any 5.
Cost: 1 willpower
Speed: +0
Damage: +4
Move: +4

Punt Hit Kick: The Punt kick is a similar to the Goal Hit Kick but the fighter
don´t run but kick his enemy without mercy for the sky the number of hexes up
make Strength minus Stamina of opponent and make the result x2 and see how much
the opponent fly at last one hex up he will go, this anti-aerial manuver and
hit enemy in ground but knockdown aerial only.
Power Points: Goal Kick, Kick 4 Football Brawling 4 pt
Cost: 1willpower.
Speed: +0
Damage: +5
Move: 0

Athletics:

Running Yards: This a classical move, what happens when the player have the
ball? Is right he runs and with his elbow open his way in the middle of his
opponents.
System: If hit a blocking enemy a Strenght contest is required if the user of
manuver have more success than his opponent, he receive a knockdown (blocks
counting in soak), but if the defender wins the contest the user falls at
ground.
Power Points: Elbow smash, Athletics 5, Football Brawling 4 pts.
Cost: 1 willpower
Speed: +0
Damage: +5
Move: +5

Grabs:

Touchdown Bomb: User grab his opponent run with him and smash him at the
ground like Clark special in K.O.F series. Cause Knockdown.
Power Points: Grab 4 Football Brawling 3pts any 5 pts.
Cost: 1 willpower
Speed: +0
Damage: +3
Move: +1

Aerial Touchdown Bomb: It´s like Touchdown Bomb except for one thing he
jumps and smash his opponent in the ground
Power Points: Grab 5, Jump, Touchdown Bomb, Football Brawling 5.
Cost 1 will
Speed: –2
Damage: +7
Move: 1

Push: Is a basic manuver for a Football player is simple manuver of reach the
target and push him to make he receive knockdown the amount of damage isn´t too
much but the target fall.
Power Points:-
Cost: none
Speed:+0
Damage:+0
Movement:1

funny isn´t it :).

Max's huge, bloodshot eyes click into focus for a
moment. His new challenger looks like a refugee from a
toga party. Maybe she had some beer...

"Okay... but this time, LOSER buys beer!"

*Use my usual tactics please, Rinaldo. I'll send you
new quotes in a moment...

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> a quick decision, she stood up and pointed at Max
> Power.
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