>From: "VEGA/Bison " <shadaloo@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Rumors.
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:33:17 -0000
>
>--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Robert Pascuttini"
><rpascuttini@h...> wrote:
> > Are you basing your information about Ryu's and Bison's energy from
> > Street Fighter V The tv series?
>
>Yes, and from the endings from SFA3.
>
> > >From: "VEGA/Bison " <shadaloo@u...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Rumors.
> > >Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:51:22 -0000
> > >
> > >--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, brian fish <fishbn@e...> wrote:
> > > > Her ending from Alpha 3 (the only game she's appeared in that I
> > >know
> > >of),
> > > > he saved her life then they showed the picture of Zangief with
>the
> > >sparkle
> > > > thingies on it, it was freaky. . . . . .
> > >
> > >Sorry, I expressed myself wrongly. I was meaning about Chun Li
> > >feeling
> > >for Ryu.
> > >The only relation between Ryu and Chun-Li in Alpha 3 is at Ryu's
> > >ending when she says: "You will be stronger when I see you next...
> > >Won't you?" when Ryu is agonizing beacuse of Bison's Psycho Power.
> > >
> > >BTW, did you know that Bison's energy and Ryu's energy are the
>same.
> > >But one is the opposite the other.
> > >
> > >Vega/M. Bison
> > >
> >
> >
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>From: anton_figueroa@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: Let call it a question.
>Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:21:01 -0400
>
>
> > Another question that I have is that if Alpha 3 preceeded 2, then
> > how> did > Bison die in every ending of Alpha 3 then show up ready to
>rumble in > 2?
>
>I really don't think that EVERY ending actually occurs. As I see it, any
>contradictory endings from the previous games are basically rendered
>obsolete when the new game with the more updated version of the ending
>happens. At least, it seems this way with SF because there are so many
>contradictory endings!
>Basically, each is their own "what if" story. And Capcom continues to
>make it longer and longer. (Imagine the scene from the end of the Clue
>movie stretching on for 5 hours.) That's how it could have happened . . .
>
>If things had continuity, Bison couldn't die in SF Alpha because he's
>back in the original old game, SF II. I also tend to consider events that
>happen in M.Bison's endings as the "dark evil possibility" that doesn't
>really happen in SF canon. Ryu's endings would probably be that. At this
>point, I don't really think even Capcom has a clear vision.
>
>I do think it's likely that Rose and Bison were romantically invovled. It
>seemed possible from some of the game endings, and it's the most
>interesting to me.
>
>Tony

>Dustin I would like to know where you got your information on Leee being
>Gen's Son.
>Ive searched the internet and sourcses for a long time and have not found
>any information relating to that.

>>

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:53:32 -0400
>
>I'll ask the wife. But so far, that's how every Chinese I've met refers
>to him.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:53 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>
>
>Lee shaolong?? I only knew him as bruce lee and Lee Jun Fan.
>
>

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:53:32 -0400
>
>I'll ask the wife. But so far, that's how every Chinese I've met

>to him.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:53 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>
>
>Lee shaolong?? I only knew him as bruce lee and Lee Jun Fan.
>
>

>From: "Dustin Wolfe" <lancer1@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: The Timeline.
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:30:05 -0600
>
>I got this information from videogames.com's Complete Guide to Street
>Fighter (http://www.videogames.com/features/universal/sfhistory/index.html)
>
>An single line from Lee's bio:
>"The son of Gen has had a hard life."
>
>I don't exactly know how official these bio's are, but I tend to use them
>when it comes to existing SF character, unless the games contradict it. The
>games will always have the upper hand.
>
>Yun and Yang (and this is official from Capcom, not just the Guide
>mentioned
>earlier), were raised by thier grandfather. According to the Guide, it's
>rumored that they were trained by Gen. I think they are likely to be the
>sons of Lee, though honestly that's just my own feelings. I don't believe
>at
>all that Chun Li is related to Lee.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: The Timeline.
>
>
> >Dustin I would like to know where you got your information on Leee being
> >Gen's Son.
> >Ive searched the internet and sourcses for a long time and have not found
> >any information relating to that.
>
>

> How many people on this list have created odd wepon
> Techniques?
>
> Mine: Luggage (a favorite of Managers), and
> Furniture (I have yet to actually
> use this one).

On Wed, 24 May 2000 17:03:15 cliff rice wrote:


We created the improvizational weapon tech. it is
basicly like jaky chan movies in it intricacies.

Cliff


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Knight of the Black Rose" <anton_figueroa@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie


> I caught a sneak preview of Shanghai Noon and highly recommend it to
everyone. Made me wish there was a weapon technique called "Anything you can
grab." Sort of like how Moo Gi Gong was described in Ninjas and Superspies.
>
> Tony
>
>
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> SNIP>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Y" <shinjo7@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] SNK vs Capcom


> I learned about this project a while ago...and unfortunately SNK is (for
> some odd reason) doing the game controls and the combat system.
>
> -Four attack buttons
> -power meter
> -SNK can't program control response worth crap
> -SNK can pump out good characters...even if they tend to beat games to
death
> (like their reprograming of the first fatal fury for PCX...I was so
> dissapointed)
>


On a side note, the new Marvel vs. Capcom (not yet released) will also be
using the 4 button attack, and previewers like the setup.

>From: firefirefi@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Is time for sheng long to appear???
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:39:14 EDT
>
>
>
><< Ok Im have to get something off my chest. There is no Shen Long. Shen
>long
> is chinese(long meaning dragon) just like Fei Long Translates to flying
> dragon.
>
> and I personally think that if master gouki was a character. He would be
> another shoto-clone with a few extra moves, but he would not be more
> powerful than Akuma.
> >>
>
>Isn't Sheng Long just the original American name for Gouken? Akuma's
>original
>name while Super turbo was being worked on was Gouki Long, BTW, and I read
>something about him and Gouken being brothers, or something to that effect.

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:27:52 -0400
>
>
>Pardon me for laboring under the impression that Mandarin WAS Chinese.
>;)
>
>She speaks Mandarin, as do all the other Chinese I've met.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:27 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
>
>
>Does your wife speak mandarin or chinese?
>
>
> >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:53:32 -0400
> >
> >I'll ask the wife. But so far, that's how every Chinese I've met
>refers
> >to him.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:53 PM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Jackie
> >
> >
> >Lee shaolong?? I only knew him as bruce lee and Lee Jun Fan.
> >
> >
>
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>From: "david chance*" <kinjin@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] alright! , sheng long doesn't exist, who's........
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 22:04:17 -0000
>
>their sensei??????? it can't be akuma or gouki becuz their the same
>person(akuma is american version and gouki is japanese version)
>so who taught them? if sheng long is not their sensei, who is?
>In the japanese comic book it mention sheng long name!?!?!.....
>I wonder why???
>

>From: firefirefi@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] SNK vs Capcom
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:57:23 EDT
>
>Jeff Y wrote:
>
><< SNK went and redesigned the FIRST Fatal Fury game...but included ALL the
> moves from EVERY game the charecters have EVER been in! Contradiction if
> i've ever seen one. >>
>
>Perhaps a contradiction, but a necessary one. When you buy a new game in a
>fighting series, you want to use all the moves you're use to.

>From: cliff rice <shinzite@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Challenge!
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Ghost Bear you are the only one that i have not
>crushed that has defeated me and wish the chance will
>you accept my chalange?
>
>Joseph challenges Ryan Ghost Bear.
>
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> The point is that they could have avoided the contradiction by simply
>
> advancing the story...maybe introducing some new characters, and

>
> Re-designing the first game...again...was a waste of their time.

>
> I caught a sneak preview of Shanghai Noon and highly recommend it to
> everyone. Made me wish there was a weapon technique called "Anything you

> grab." Sort of like how Moo Gi Gong was described in Ninjas and Superspies.
>

On Wed, 24 May 2000 17:03:15 cliff rice wrote:


We created the improvizational weapon tech. it is
basicly like jaky chan movies in it intricacies.

Cliff


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>From: firefirefi@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Is time for sheng long to appear???
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:39:14 EDT
>
>
>
><< Ok Im have to get something off my chest. There is no Shen Long.

>long
> is chinese(long meaning dragon) just like Fei Long Translates to

> dragon.
>
> and I personally think that if master gouki was a character. He would

> another shoto-clone with a few extra moves, but he would not be more
> powerful than Akuma.
> >>
>
>Isn't Sheng Long just the original American name for Gouken? Akuma's
>original
>name while Super turbo was being worked on was Gouki Long, BTW, and I

>something about him and Gouken being brothers, or something to that

-----Original Message-----
From: Soldar [mailto:soldar@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:47 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter]

> "Born in Hong Kong Chan", yes. 

As I say, GIVEN name...

However, it's not the name he goes by
> now. 

I can't think of any reason he would...

His "stage name", if you will, is Cheng Long. 

Ahh...Sorry, I wasn't thinking of Stage Names (should've been, given his occupation...)

 I know that for a
> fact because I once had a very amusing discussion with a Chinese friend
> where I was unable to convey to her exactly *what* Chinese actor I was
> such a big fan of.
>
> Her: "Jackie Chan?  Who's that?"
SNIP>
> Her: "Oh, HIM!  That's Cheng Long."
Not to be impolite, but are you sure that your friend didn't say "Chen Yuen Lung"? I have seen him credited under that name on several movies.
> Me: "Let me guess, you don't know who Bruce Lee is either?"
SNIP>

> Flame away kiddies, I'm crispy already.
No flame intended. I'm just glad there's genuine interest in such a great Stunt-Master.
> SNIP>

---

---

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Karstensen

To: streetfighter@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:54 AM

Subject: RE: [streetfighter]

He's probably known as Chen Yuen Lung (Cheng Long) in Cantonese.  Nearly every Chinese version of Jackie's films I've seen have been in Cantonese (as they're out of Hong Kong, where, I believe, Cantonese is the major dialect spoken). 

True, and since that's were he is from/grew up, that is what I base my statement on.

However, since the spellings between Cantonese and Mandarin are often VERY different (Mao Zedong versus Mao Tse-Tung, for example) it wouldn't surprise me if Cheng Long was how it translated out in Mandarin.

No doubt true.

Interesting note; like English, a lot of words that are spelled differently in Chinese are pronounced the same.  So Lung sounds the same as Long, for all intents and purposes.

Yes. I suppose this supports the "Shen Long" statement.    Amusing.

SNIP>

-----
From: Soldar [mailto:soldar@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:47 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter]

> "Born in Hong Kong Chan", yes. 

As I say, GIVEN name...

However, it's not the name he goes by
> now. 

I can't think of any reason he would...

His "stage name", if you will, is Cheng Long. 

Ahh...Sorry, I wasn't thinking of Stage Names (should've been, given his occupation...)

 I know that for a
> fact because I once had a very amusing discussion with a Chinese friend
> where I was unable to convey to her exactly *what* Chinese actor I was
> such a big fan of.
>
> Her: "Jackie Chan?  Who's that?"
SNIP>
> Her: "Oh, HIM!  That's Cheng Long."
Not to be impolite, but are you sure that your friend didn't say "Chen Yuen Lung"? I have seen him credited under that name on several movies.
> Me: "Let me guess, you don't know who Bruce Lee is either?"
SNIP>

> Flame away kiddies, I'm crispy already.
No flame intended. I'm just glad there's genuine interest in such a great Stunt-Master.
> SNIP>

---

---

---

---

> Wee...just got the aboved mentioned movie on DVD
> yesterday :)
> More Ravenloft material for the meat
> grinder...btw...a little treat for your
> next halloween advneture set in a small town a day's
> ride to the north of
> New York. Yes the one with the covered bridge <EG>
>
> Headless Horseman
> Style: Special Forces (weapons only...he WAS a merc.
> A very skilled one)
> Str 6
> Dex 4
> Sta 7 (he's dead jim...)
>
> Cha 5 (only when intimidating...it's hard to get
> people to follow you Man 0
> when you don't have a head...)
> App 0
>
> Per 4 (yes i'm serious)
> Int 3
> Wit 4 (single minded but quick witted)
>
> Alertness 3
> Intimidation 5 (You can't stare him down...)
>
> Blind Fighting 5 (need you ask?)
> Stealth 1
> Survival 3
>
> Tracking 4
> Mysteries 1 (He IS one)
>
> Willpower: 10
> Chi: 0
> Glory: 10 (in america...it's our fairy tale)
> Honor: 0
>
> Health: 20 or "However much you want him to have."
> or "Just beat on
> him...I'll tell you when you've won...heh, heh,
> heh..."
>
> Punch 2
> Kick 2
> Block 2
> Grab 1
> Athletics 4
> Focus 0
> Sword 5
> Axe 5
>
> Jump
> Special Maneuvers
> Spinning Backslash (Backfist)
> Spinning Slash (Knuckle)
> Overhead Chop (Buffalo Punch)
> Double Cut (see below)
> Power Upper Cut (didn't even need to change the name
> ;)
> Monkey Grab Slash (duh...Note: he is skilled enough
> to grab with his ax)
>
> Double Cut
> Weapon Technique
> Prerequisites: Any Edged Weapon ***
> Cost: Any Edged Weapon 3
> This allows a two weapon fighter to attack with both
> his weapons in the same
> turn.
> System: The fighter may make two attacks with
> weapons, one weapon per hand,
> as long as the attacks are of the same strength
> level (Jab or Strong.) A
> fighter may not use this technique with Fierce,
> Berserk, or disarm attacks.
> *Note: I am under the impression that White Wolf's
> screwed up weapon attack
> table is a misprint. It should look like the punch
> table.*
> Cost: none
> Speed: -1
> Damage: +0
> Move: as most limiting weapon
>
> Daredevil (his horse)
> Style: none (or horse if you prefer)
>
> Str: 7 (it's a horse jim)
> Dex: 2
> Sta: 5
>
> Social? Hahahahahahahahahahaha! That's funny.
>
> Per: 4
> Int: 3 (smart horse)
> Wit: 2
>
> Kick 4
> Athletics 6
>
> Special Maneuvers
>
> Gallop (multiplies move by 2)
> Throw Rider (see below)
>
> Throw Rider
> Style: Horses only
> This attack may be made when a person that a horse
> does not like tries to
> ride the horse.
> System: Treat it like the throw maneuver with the
> following Change: The
> rider must beat the horse in a contested Str +
> Athletics roll. If the rider
> wins he stays on but if he fails he is thrown off
> the horse with no chance
> to soak the damage.
> Cost: none
> Speed: -2
> Damage: +2
> Move: 0 (effectively)
>
> Anyone have anything else to add?
>
> Jeff
>

> I am now ready to recieve any submissions for WP #4.
> Please follow the
> submission guidelines

> , but note that I am happy to receive submissions in
> nearly any form. If I do happen to have a problem >

> I would like to see some movie or game reviews, and
> some Street Fighter-type art. And of course, I am >

> fiction, and anything else you can throw my way.

>What are the submission guidelines? Or where can I
>find them?

>I may have just the things, when are the subbies due?

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Is time for sheng long to appear???
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:54:33 -0400
>
>
>"You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance."
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:15 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Is time for sheng long to appear???
>
>
>I heard the same but I have to check it out again.
>Sheng Long is what Ryu use to say. "To defeat me you must defeat Sheng
>Long"
>Sound framiliar to any one? Got changed to dragon punch after.
>
>
> >From: firefirefi@...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Is time for sheng long to appear???
> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:39:14 EDT
> >
> >
> >
> ><< Ok Im have to get something off my chest. There is no Shen Long.
>Shen
> >long
> > is chinese(long meaning dragon) just like Fei Long Translates to
>flying
> > dragon.
> >
> > and I personally think that if master gouki was a character. He would
>be
> > another shoto-clone with a few extra moves, but he would not be more
> > powerful than Akuma.
> > >>
> >
> >Isn't Sheng Long just the original American name for Gouken? Akuma's
> >original
> >name while Super turbo was being worked on was Gouki Long, BTW, and I
>read
> >something about him and Gouken being brothers, or something to that
>effect.
>
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>...and I can't imagine what the people at Capcom were smoking when they
>decided to turn the SFA3 announcer into a game show host.

>...and I can't imagine what the people at Capcom were smoking when they
>decided to turn the SFA3 announcer into a game show host.

>From: Knight of the Black Rose <anton_figueroa@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] snk vs capcom
>Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:48:00 -0400 (EDT)
>
>We're talking about the other one, the Arcade/Dreamcast one which will be
>released later this year (I hope).
>
>------Original Message------
>snk vs capcom is released.
>since months!!
>it's on neogeo pocket!
>

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