--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
<joespitt@t...> wrote:

> Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every

possibility

> strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
>
> J. Scott Pittman

That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
it was so cool.

But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
what
I came up with...

Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)

Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)

Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.

He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
have made at this moment, but at last isn´t for real, just a test fight :).

Chris Hoffmann wrote:

> --- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
> <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every
> possibility
> > strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
> >
> > J. Scott Pittman
>
> That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
> it was so cool.
>
> But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
> numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
> what
> I came up with...
>
> Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)
>
> Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)
>
> Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
> battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.
>
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brian fish wrote:

>(Other than Hiryu and My pankration gyu with the elbow smash to thunderstrike combo)
>

Yikes! Yeah, there was a N.A. Wrestler in my old campaign with Block to Thunderstrike to Elbow Smash (Dizzy, naturally) Her DEX was 5, so she was at speed 9 the whole time!

But the scariest was the Boxer with Block to Rekka Ken Fierce. It was Speed 10, Damage 10 and he used to follow with a Rekka Ken Jab if his opponent wasn't dizzy yet!


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Thanks, Chris!! I did need them at the level you created them. They had to
be on par with the World Warriors. Anyway, I checked out your page and I
thought it was great. The only things I can suggest to you is to not forget
about prerequisite moves when you're creating characters. I think there
were a few characters with Dragon Punch but no Power Uppercut. Other than
that, it's coming along great.
Thanks again,
Don

>From: Chris Nelson <ptc075@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] KoF character stats
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:58:51 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I don't have them yet, but I am working on it, finally... Should have
>it up by the end of May/early June. I'll see if I can't bump Iori up
>on the schedule, seeing as I just finished Kyo & company. Check out
>the new site at:
>
>members.xoom.com/ptc075/SF/SF-index.htm
>
>Laters!
>-Chris!
>
>
>--- Don Vernatter <devernatter@...> wrote:
> > Hi! I'm new here and I just would like to say hi to everybody.
> > Anyway, I'm
> > running a campaign set in an alternate demention where Bison rules
> > America
> > and the Street Fighters are scattered across the globe. Bison's
> > second in
> > command is Cammy and his generals include Vega, Gill (from SF3), and
> > Jacque
> > (a character I created). Well, I'd like to know if anyone has stats
> > for
> > Iori Yagami, Vice, and Mature from King of Fighters. I need them for
> > my
> > campaign(they rule of California with Vega). If you do, please send
> > them as
> > soon as you can.
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Don (flashy) Vernatter
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I'm sure it'll work out, as you so eloquently pointed out to me, you are
human and will on occasion make mistakes, I remember I did something
similar once in my own tournament and it caused a player to lose a fight,
it happens. . . . .

>He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
>math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
>the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
>have made at this moment, but at last isn´t for real, just a test fight :).

That's not so bad, starting the rekka ken with a block lets a grappler come
in and tear them to pieces, Our campaign has a Kung Fu stylist who uses a
Rekka Ken Jab with flame fist and Psychokinetic channeling, it's a speed 10
attack that hits for 12 damage, even if you have musical accompaniement, it
takes a wits roll to even block the fricken thing. My fav NA wrestling
combo was ice blast to Diving hawk to Iron Claw (I never had that
particular combo, my GM used it against me, good thing I dodged the ice
blast or I would have been TOAST), My character doesn't have it yet, but
will eventually pick up two REALLY mean combos, Block to Flying heel stomp
to Flying thrust kick (dizzy), and Scissor Kick to block to hyper fist
(dizzy), I like the first because theoretically you should not get hit, and
both moves hit fast, the second because you can dizzy them twice, and if
they are dizzy when you block, they can't even block the hyper fist (dex 5
fighter with musical accompaniement) Now maybe if I train for a little
while longer I will actually be ableto put up a suitable fight against the
Gibson girl (can anyone explain how she's a rank 6 with better measurables
than any of the world warriors??)

I took an alternate approach, I have a few KOF fighters in my tourney, but
I made them all as rank ones. . . .

>Thanks, Chris!! I did need them at the level you created them. They had to
>be on par with the World Warriors. Anyway, I checked out your page and I
>thought it was great. The only things I can suggest to you is to not forget
>about prerequisite moves when you're creating characters. I think there
>were a few characters with Dragon Punch but no Power Uppercut. Other than
>that, it's coming along great.

I dunno if anyone saw the MTV movie awards, but for best fight they have
two of the best movie fights I have ever seen, the Darth Maul fight from
episode one, and the Dojo fight scene in the Matrix, I just wanted to see
which one you guys thought was better. . . . . .

--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:

> He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
> math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
> the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
> have made at this moment, but at last isn�t for real, just a test fight :).

Well, it's possible that you're right and I'm wrong, I was just curious how
much agg I took.

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--- Joseph Scott Pittman <joespitt@...> wrote:

> Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every possibility
> strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.

Actually, my strategy only has six or seven items, I just made one fairly
general.

That fight was awesome! Even closer than the now classic Mr. Military/Gokiwa
matches. Although I wasn't expecting toughskin, so Maka Wara wasn't quite as
effective as I thought it would be.

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--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:
Now maybe if I train for a little

> while longer I will actually be ableto put up a suitable fight against the
> Gibson girl (can anyone explain how she's a rank 6 with better measurables
> than any of the world warriors??)

Sure. There's two ways to get to World Warrior level A: Work your way up the
ranks or B: Challenge a World Warrior and beat the snot out of them.

What World Warrior (or anyone else) in their right mind would accept a
challenge from her?!?

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--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:

> I dunno if anyone saw the MTV movie awards, but for best fight they have
> two of the best movie fights I have ever seen, the Darth Maul fight from
> episode one, and the Dojo fight scene in the Matrix, I just wanted to see
> which one you guys thought was better. . . . . .

As loath as I am to give Dr. Woah credit for anything (since Bill and Ted),
that Dojo scene is probably my favorite fight scene of all time.

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I don't know how well anyone remembers Guile's ending from the original
SF2, but after he kicks the crap out of Bison, he says "Remember me?
Remember me and Charlie?"
Until Capcom starting revising the story ever couple weeks, I had always
been under the impression that Charlie was not a person. It seemed logical
that Guile was a vietnam vet, and I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics, I
believe the word the vietnamese used to refer to themselves sounds similar
to Charlie to Americans. At any rate, the GI's did refer to the Viet Cong as
Charlie.
Taking this into an account, it's not difficult to imagine that Charlie
was not originally intended a a person. I just imagined that Bison betrayed
Guile's platoon to the Viet cong. Thus you get "Remember me? Remember me and
Charlie?"
Also at one point in the anime series, Guile does call Nash Charlie.
It's near the end, right after he discovers that Bison has murdered him. I'd
be more specific, but all the episodes near the end of the run are almost
exactly the same, with the same footage over and over, in slightly different
order.

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>What World Warrior (or anyone else) in their right mind would accept a
>challenge from her?!?

Any of the arrogant ones, which is what I don't understand, I mean put her
in the same room with Fei Long, Dee Jay, Ken, Vega, Sagat, Balrog, you
know, the arrogant ones and eventually they would end up fighting, and the
scary thing is, virtually all of them would lose. . . . .

yup, got him
-----Original Message-----
From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Street fury alpha: The contenders

>Oh, by the by, you did get my character concept and background for Tony
>King right? Other than Hiryu and some of my hybrids and/or cybernetics, I
>think that is one of my most competant combat rank 1's to date (Other that
>Hiryu and My pankration gyu with the elbow smash to thunderstrike combo)
>
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My character has 40 health levels
yuk yuk yuk
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] dodging run

>--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
><joespitt@t...> wrote:
>> Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every
>possibility
>> strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
>>
>> J. Scott Pittman
>
>That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
>it was so cool.
>
>But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
>numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
>what
>I came up with...
>
>Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)
>
>Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)
>
>Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
>battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.
>
>
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If you need a quick guideline, each Maneuver in the Encyclopedia Combatica
is listed with all of it's prerequisite moves and moves that can be learned
from that point on if a character knows those moves, under each Maneuver.

joespitt
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Vernatter <devernatter@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] KoF character stats

>Thanks, Chris!! I did need them at the level you created them. They had

to

>be on par with the World Warriors. Anyway, I checked out your page and I
>thought it was great. The only things I can suggest to you is to not

forget

>about prerequisite moves when you're creating characters. I think there
>were a few characters with Dragon Punch but no Power Uppercut. Other than
>that, it's coming along great.
> Thanks again,
> Don
>
>
>>From: Chris Nelson <ptc075@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] KoF character stats
>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:58:51 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>I don't have them yet, but I am working on it, finally... Should have
>>it up by the end of May/early June. I'll see if I can't bump Iori up
>>on the schedule, seeing as I just finished Kyo & company. Check out
>>the new site at:
>>
>>members.xoom.com/ptc075/SF/SF-index.htm
>>
>>Laters!
>>-Chris!
>>
>>
>>--- Don Vernatter <devernatter@...> wrote:
>> > Hi! I'm new here and I just would like to say hi to everybody.
>> > Anyway, I'm
>> > running a campaign set in an alternate demention where Bison rules
>> > America
>> > and the Street Fighters are scattered across the globe. Bison's
>> > second in
>> > command is Cammy and his generals include Vega, Gill (from SF3), and
>> > Jacque
>> > (a character I created). Well, I'd like to know if anyone has stats
>> > for
>> > Iori Yagami, Vice, and Mature from King of Fighters. I need them for
>> > my
>> > campaign(they rule of California with Vega). If you do, please send
>> > them as
>> > soon as you can.
>> >
>> > Thanx,
>> > Don (flashy) Vernatter
>> >
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Tough choice. I'd say Matrix if I HAD to choose. You just can't argue with
Laurence's shaking hands durig the fight. They seemed to tense with power!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??

>--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:
>> I dunno if anyone saw the MTV movie awards, but for best fight they have
>> two of the best movie fights I have ever seen, the Darth Maul fight from
>> episode one, and the Dojo fight scene in the Matrix, I just wanted to see
>> which one you guys thought was better. . . . . .
>
>As loath as I am to give Dr. Woah credit for anything (since Bill and Ted),
>that Dojo scene is probably my favorite fight scene of all time.
>
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It was cool ho we had opposing offensive/defensive ideas.

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From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] dodging run

>--- Joseph Scott Pittman <joespitt@...> wrote:
>> Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every possibility
>> strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
>
>Actually, my strategy only has six or seven items, I just made one fairly
>general.
>
>That fight was awesome! Even closer than the now classic Mr.

Military/Gokiwa

>matches. Although I wasn't expecting toughskin, so Maka Wara wasn't quite

as

>effective as I thought it would be.
>
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Listen this I can make a Rebellion and Sha Long return to fight from that point
and restore some health from them or make another fight man I wrong in math work
what a shame.

Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

> He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
> math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
> the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
> have made at this moment, but at last isn´t for real, just a test fight :).
>
> Chris Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > --- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
> > <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > > Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every
> > possibility
> > > strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
> > >
> > > J. Scott Pittman
> >
> > That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
> > it was so cool.
> >
> > But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
> > numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
> > what
> > I came up with...
> >
> > Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)
> >
> > Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)
> >
> > Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
> > battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I pick up the mail and for good of all let´s see the damage of each fighter per
turn.
Move 1- Sha Long 2 Rebellion 1
Move 2- Sha Long Rebellion

Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

> Listen this I can make a Rebellion and Sha Long return to fight from that point
> and restore some health from them or make another fight man I wrong in math work
> what a shame.
>
> Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:
>
> > He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
> > math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
> > the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
> > have made at this moment, but at last isn´t for real, just a test fight :).
> >
> > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> > > --- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
> > > <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > > > Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every
> > > possibility
> > > > strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
> > > >
> > > > J. Scott Pittman
> > >
> > > That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
> > > it was so cool.
> > >
> > > But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
> > > numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
> > > what
> > > I came up with...
> > >
> > > Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)
> > >
> > > Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)
> > >
> > > Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
> > > battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.
> > >
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I send it for mistake but make the counts for each turn
Sha Long receive at total 20 points of damage
Rebellion receive 16 points of damage
Chris Hoffman your math work is right you won the fight and I make a wrong I make a
sugestion I stand up Rebellion and continue the fight from move 11 I recover some
health points for both fighters and continue the fight ps: Just e-mail if both agree.
Ps: Voss dialogue will happen with the winner. sorry folk I always a bad math student
:).

Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

> I pick up the mail and for good of all let´s see the damage of each fighter per
> turn.
> Move 1- Sha Long 2 Rebellion 1
> Move 2- Sha Long Rebellion
>
> Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:
>
> > Listen this I can make a Rebellion and Sha Long return to fight from that point
> > and restore some health from them or make another fight man I wrong in math work
> > what a shame.
> >
> > Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:
> >
> > > He reach the 20 mark? Sha Long have 20 wound boxes ohh dammit I make the bad
> > > math work christ and I thought I count right but I lost the practice well
> > > the fight at this moment are very quickly and this the major time fight I
> > > have made at this moment, but at last isn´t for real, just a test fight :).
> > >
> > > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Joseph Scott Pittman"
> > > > <joespitt@t...> wrote:
> > > > > Yeah Chris and seem to come up with the BIG, include every
> > > > possibility
> > > > > strategies. Great fight Chris. That maka wara thing hurts like crap.
> > > > >
> > > > > J. Scott Pittman
> > > >
> > > > That was an excellent fight! I had to reread it three times because
> > > > it was so cool.
> > > >
> > > > But (and Rinaldo's going to hate me for this...) I was going over the
> > > > numbers and added up the damages we did to each other and this is
> > > > what
> > > > I came up with...
> > > >
> > > > Rebellion took: 16 damage (enough for a knockout)
> > > >
> > > > Sha Lung took: 20 damage (that had _better_ be enough for a knockout)
> > > >
> > > > Even with this mistake (if it was a mistake), it was a very hard
> > > > battle. My hat's off to you both for a job well done.
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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must... not... flame... Rekka Ken combo...

-----Original Message-----
From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:32 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] You think that's bad, try this on for size

>That's not so bad, starting the rekka ken with a block lets a grappler come
>in and tear them to pieces, Our campaign has a Kung Fu stylist who uses a
>Rekka Ken Jab with flame fist and Psychokinetic channeling, it's a speed 10
>attack that hits for 12 damage, even if you have musical accompaniement, it
>takes a wits roll to even block the fricken thing. My fav NA wrestling
>combo was ice blast to Diving hawk to Iron Claw (I never had that
>particular combo, my GM used it against me, good thing I dodged the ice
>blast or I would have been TOAST), My character doesn't have it yet, but
>will eventually pick up two REALLY mean combos, Block to Flying heel stomp
>to Flying thrust kick (dizzy), and Scissor Kick to block to hyper fist
>(dizzy), I like the first because theoretically you should not get hit, and
>both moves hit fast, the second because you can dizzy them twice, and if
>they are dizzy when you block, they can't even block the hyper fist (dex 5
>fighter with musical accompaniement) Now maybe if I train for a little
>while longer I will actually be ableto put up a suitable fight against the
>Gibson girl (can anyone explain how she's a rank 6 with better measurables
>than any of the world warriors??)
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Have worst thought join Flame fist with Psychokinetic channeling How?

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> must... not... flame... Rekka Ken combo...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:32 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] You think that's bad, try this on for size
>
> >That's not so bad, starting the rekka ken with a block lets a grappler come
> >in and tear them to pieces, Our campaign has a Kung Fu stylist who uses a
> >Rekka Ken Jab with flame fist and Psychokinetic channeling, it's a speed 10
> >attack that hits for 12 damage, even if you have musical accompaniement, it
> >takes a wits roll to even block the fricken thing. My fav NA wrestling
> >combo was ice blast to Diving hawk to Iron Claw (I never had that
> >particular combo, my GM used it against me, good thing I dodged the ice
> >blast or I would have been TOAST), My character doesn't have it yet, but
> >will eventually pick up two REALLY mean combos, Block to Flying heel stomp
> >to Flying thrust kick (dizzy), and Scissor Kick to block to hyper fist
> >(dizzy), I like the first because theoretically you should not get hit, and
> >both moves hit fast, the second because you can dizzy them twice, and if
> >they are dizzy when you block, they can't even block the hyper fist (dex 5
> >fighter with musical accompaniement) Now maybe if I train for a little
> >while longer I will actually be ableto put up a suitable fight against the
> >Gibson girl (can anyone explain how she's a rank 6 with better measurables
> >than any of the world warriors??)
> >
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Have worst thought join Flame fist with Psychokinetic channeling How?

Well, the character in question is a fire elemenal Kung Fu stylist.
Psychokinetic channeling has an any cost, and it never specifically says
you can't combine maneuvers, it just says you have to use it on basic
maneuvers, so the character combined them with rekka Ken, it's a speed 10,
12 damage attack. . . .pretty mean huh?

The point is a Flaming Jab isn´t a basic manuver anymore you can´t make a
Flaming Pyschokinetic Jab I known the efect is marvelous damage but is a valid
thing?

brian fish wrote:

> Have worst thought join Flame fist with Psychokinetic channeling How?
>
> Well, the character in question is a fire elemenal Kung Fu stylist.
> Psychokinetic channeling has an any cost, and it never specifically says
> you can't combine maneuvers, it just says you have to use it on basic
> maneuvers, so the character combined them with rekka Ken, it's a speed 10,
> 12 damage attack. . . .pretty mean huh?
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At 08:18 PM 5/1/00 -0300, you wrote:

>The point is a Flaming Jab isn´t a basic manuver anymore you can´t make a
>Flaming Pyschokinetic Jab I known the efect is marvelous damage but is a

valid

>thing?

My GM's interpretation is that since it's a modifier you can use an
unlimited amount of modifiers together. It never expressly says anything
either way in any of the books, so I would guess it would be up to
individual interpretation

> > >That's not so bad, starting the rekka ken with a block lets a >

grappler come> > >in and tear them to pieces,

I suppose if you block while you're in point blank range perhaps.

> > >Rekka Ken Jab with flame fist and Psychokinetic channeling, it's > a

speed 10> > >attack that hits for 12 damage, e

Yikes, but I agree on the point that a Flame Fist might no longer be a
basic maneuver able to be used with a rekka-ken (I don't quite have a
decision, I just agree that there may be doubt involved).

Tony

On Mon, 01 May 2000 21:13:12 -0400 brian fish <fishbn@...>
writes:

> Have worst thought join Flame fist with Psychokinetic channeling How?

> so the character combined them with rekka Ken, it's a speed 10, 12

damage attack. . . .pretty mean huh?

Sounds nasty. Just better hope it's a short fight cause those points will
go quickly. I should know as my character started out the game with
Rekka-ken. I've since developed the character to the point where I don't
always need to spend Will like water to win. My fierce rekka-ken does
Dam 11 on speed 7 (with Punch 5, Strength 3), the most effective and
believable way to raise it would be to raise my strength though (rather
than any of the neat ideas mentioned here).

Tony

In a message dated 5/1/00 3:06:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fishbn@... writes:

<< the Darth Maul fight from
episode one, and the Dojo fight scene in the Matrix, I just wanted to see
which one you guys thought was better. . . . . . >>
as much as i liked the matrix, i have to go with ewan mcgreggor, liam niasan,
and ray parks for this one. in case someone doesn't know, thats obi wan, qui
gon, and maul

What rank is your character? I fought a rank 6 Kung Fu fighter a while ago
who was a punch artist (Rekka Ken, deflecting punch REALLY high punch and
block), basically Rekka Ken isn't unbalancing unless A) you start adding
attachments (flame fist, etc), and B) the dice like the character,
honestly, with a stamina of 5 the ones you can block (anything but the
jab), won;t hurt you, and the one you can't (jab) can;t hurt you. .. . .

Hey steve. Long time no write.

>I know a Sifu who lives in Chinatown (NYC) who, for all intents and
>purposes, can be considered pretty "old school" when it comes to his style.
>He's not a master, but he knows his shit. After seeing him temporarily
>heal
>a friend's arthritis without even *touching* her, I'm inclined to believe
>he
>knows more about this sort of thing than any of us can hope to.

>Q: "What is the difference between Wu Shu and Kung Fu?"
>
>A: Kung Fu is the Northern Chinese term for martial arts. Wu Shu is the
>Southern. Otherwise, there is no difference.

I think you got the two confused. I think Wu Shu is northern and
Kung Fu is southern.

>Q: "What's the story on Mao (or anyone else) in the government outlawing
>Kung Fu?
>A: It's not true. In fact, One of Mao's generals (Li, I think his name
>was)
>was a Shaolin monk and Kung Fu master in his own right.

Cool.

>Q: "So the whole story about Wu Shu being a more politically correct way to
>teach Kung Fu is basically wrong."
>A: Correct. (My wife added that while Wu Shu is required to be taught by
>the government in public schooling, it's not taught for combat. Form over
>function, as it were.)

Yes Wushu is definately more sport based.

>And finally, he had this to say:
>
>"There are many Kung Fu masters in China who do not wish to reveal
>themselves to the world, and who are better than anyone can imagine. Once
>Jet Li gets better at his style, he will receive challenge letters from
>these masters. But, he dares not accept them."
>
>When asked why, he said:
>
>"Because he would lose, and that would be very bad for his public image."
>
>Kinda makes ya think, dudn't it?
>
>What do you think, sirs?

Hmm interesting.
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>From: "Joseph Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] The "last word" on Wu Shu and Kung Fu
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:43:36 -0700
>
>Sounds like a crazy old cook to me. He healed someone without touching
>them?
>How then do you know he healed her? How was this accomplished? Do you have
>evidence that he cured her? I could claim to have healed someone to, but
>you'd just have my word and nothing else. Would it make a diffrence if I
>knew martial arts at a great level? Would it add more credibility to my
>story?
> I'd say (no offense meant here, beleive me) to make sure to seperate
>reality form fantasy. Just my opinion. You asked!
>
>Scott
>
>
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>as much as i liked the matrix, i have to go with ewan mcgreggor, liam

niasan,

>and ray parks for this one. in case someone doesn't know, thats obi wan,

qui

>gon, and maul

I don't know...the Matrix just didn't seem to be original enough for my
tastes. I kind of liked it, but I would only put it as an average movie in
my books. The Episode I saber battle is definately the winner, and I agree
with that, but it was only Ray Parks (in nearly all of the saber duel
scenes, Nieeson and McGreggor's heads were digitally placed on the bodies of
the actual guys doing the saber fight).

really? where did you hear this? I had heard that Lucas had some
fencing/kendo instructors schooling the actors for months... or was that
only for the non-Maul scenes?

-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin Wolfe [mailto:lancer1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:21 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??

>as much as i liked the matrix, i have to go with ewan mcgreggor, liam

niasan,

>and ray parks for this one. in case someone doesn't know, thats obi

wan,
qui

>gon, and maul

I don't know...the Matrix just didn't seem to be original enough for my
tastes. I kind of liked it, but I would only put it as an average movie
in
my books. The Episode I saber battle is definately the winner, and I
agree
with that, but it was only Ray Parks (in nearly all of the saber duel
scenes, Nieeson and McGreggor's heads were digitally placed on the
bodies of
the actual guys doing the saber fight).


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yea, it's possible I mixed up Northern and Southern. My memory's been
bad lately. :)

I'm getting mail at work again. Basically took a beatdown to the mail
admin and discovered he'd waxed up my mail settings during a server
move.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:07 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] The "last word" on Wu Shu and Kung Fu


Hey steve. Long time no write.

>I know a Sifu who lives in Chinatown (NYC) who, for all intents and
>purposes, can be considered pretty "old school" when it comes to his

style.

>He's not a master, but he knows his shit. After seeing him temporarily

>heal
>a friend's arthritis without even *touching* her, I'm inclined to

believe

>he
>knows more about this sort of thing than any of us can hope to.

>Q: "What is the difference between Wu Shu and Kung Fu?"
>
>A: Kung Fu is the Northern Chinese term for martial arts. Wu Shu is

the

>Southern. Otherwise, there is no difference.

I think you got the two confused. I think Wu Shu is northern and
Kung Fu is southern.

>Q: "What's the story on Mao (or anyone else) in the government

outlawing

>Kung Fu?
>A: It's not true. In fact, One of Mao's generals (Li, I think his name

>was)
>was a Shaolin monk and Kung Fu master in his own right.

Cool.

>Q: "So the whole story about Wu Shu being a more politically correct

way to

>teach Kung Fu is basically wrong."
>A: Correct. (My wife added that while Wu Shu is required to be taught

by

>the government in public schooling, it's not taught for combat. Form

over

>function, as it were.)

Yes Wushu is definately more sport based.

>And finally, he had this to say:
>
>"There are many Kung Fu masters in China who do not wish to reveal
>themselves to the world, and who are better than anyone can imagine.

Once

>Jet Li gets better at his style, he will receive challenge letters from
>these masters. But, he dares not accept them."
>
>When asked why, he said:
>
>"Because he would lose, and that would be very bad for his public

image."

>
>Kinda makes ya think, dudn't it?
>
>What do you think, sirs?

Hmm interesting.
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I have to agree with Steve here too. I heard that they trained for a long
time. And I just can't see digitally placed faces not looking incredibly
out of place and dumb. And just for the record, I vote for the Matrix
fight.

MikeM

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??
>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:44:59 -0400
>
>
>really? where did you hear this? I had heard that Lucas had some
>fencing/kendo instructors schooling the actors for months... or was that
>only for the non-Maul scenes?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dustin Wolfe [mailto:lancer1@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:21 AM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??
>
>
> >as much as i liked the matrix, i have to go with ewan mcgreggor, liam
>niasan,
> >and ray parks for this one. in case someone doesn't know, thats obi
>wan,
>qui
> >gon, and maul
>
>
>I don't know...the Matrix just didn't seem to be original enough for my
>tastes. I kind of liked it, but I would only put it as an average movie
>in
>my books. The Episode I saber battle is definately the winner, and I
>agree
>with that, but it was only Ray Parks (in nearly all of the saber duel
>scenes, Nieeson and McGreggor's heads were digitally placed on the
>bodies of
>the actual guys doing the saber fight).
>
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well, I'm not saying it can't be done, and given the amount of moving
around done in those scenes, it wouldn't surprise me if they *had* done
it and I just didn't notice. I just got curious 'coz of what I'd heard
about the filming.

I liked the Matrix not for its Street Fighter influences, but because it
was ripped straight out of Mage: the Ascension. Virtual Adepts and the
Technocracy, anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: Spirto [mailto:spirto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 9:07 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??


I have to agree with Steve here too. I heard that they trained for a
long
time. And I just can't see digitally placed faces not looking
incredibly
out of place and dumb. And just for the record, I vote for the Matrix
fight.

MikeM

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??
>Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 08:44:59 -0400
>
>
>really? where did you hear this? I had heard that Lucas had some
>fencing/kendo instructors schooling the actors for months... or was

that

>only for the non-Maul scenes?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dustin Wolfe [mailto:lancer1@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:21 AM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, which is the best fight scene??
>
>
> >as much as i liked the matrix, i have to go with ewan mcgreggor, liam
>niasan,
> >and ray parks for this one. in case someone doesn't know, thats obi
>wan,
>qui
> >gon, and maul
>
>
>I don't know...the Matrix just didn't seem to be original enough for my
>tastes. I kind of liked it, but I would only put it as an average movie
>in
>my books. The Episode I saber battle is definately the winner, and I
>agree
>with that, but it was only Ray Parks (in nearly all of the saber duel
>scenes, Nieeson and McGreggor's heads were digitally placed on the
>bodies of
>the actual guys doing the saber fight).
>
>
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