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Group: streetfighter Message: 6613 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Street fury alpha?
Group: streetfighter Message: 6614 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Street fury alpha: The contenders
Group: streetfighter Message: 6615 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Ages challange.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6616 From: Joseph Scott Pittman Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Street fury alpha: The contenders
Group: streetfighter Message: 6617 From: Josh Diemert Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6618 From: J.J. Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6619 From: Knight of the Black Rose Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: New Streetfighter Supplement Online
Group: streetfighter Message: 6620 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ha ha ha, good tag, but I MUST reply. . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6621 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Men VS Women
Group: streetfighter Message: 6622 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] "The last words" By evil guys.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6623 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6624 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6625 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6626 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] help wanted
Group: streetfighter Message: 6627 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6628 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Alpha 3 in the RPG
Group: streetfighter Message: 6629 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Where
Group: streetfighter Message: 6630 From: J.J. Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Alpha 3 in the RPG
Group: streetfighter Message: 6631 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] What tourmant/fight I'd like to see
Group: streetfighter Message: 6632 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6633 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] What tourmant/fight I'd like to see
Group: streetfighter Message: 6634 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6635 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6636 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6637 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6638 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6639 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6640 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6641 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6642 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6643 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] New Streetfighter Supplement Online
Group: streetfighter Message: 6644 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Street fury alpha: The contenders
Group: streetfighter Message: 6645 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] who are the contestants again?
Group: streetfighter Message: 6646 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: this is kinda funny. . . . .. .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6647 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Ages Challenges: Joseph Masterson Vs Jean Paul Collier.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6648 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6649 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6650 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6651 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6652 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6653 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6654 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6655 From: Jade M Prout Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Cartwheel Kick Blues
Group: streetfighter Message: 6656 From: Jade M Prout Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6657 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6658 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Bison's amazing intelligence...
Group: streetfighter Message: 6659 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6660 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6661 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Group: streetfighter Message: 6662 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??


Group: streetfighter Message: 6613 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Street fury alpha?
ok than, here is how i would keep play balance no one
can chalange anyone of higher rank than yourself
because higher rank fighters would never cheepen
themselvs by fighting a weaker fighter. if you are
higer rank and you wish to challange a lower rank
fighter the lower rank fighter probably would not
accept for fear of getting his butt kicked. And a
blemish put on his record.

Character creation.
Roll up a character like normal, concult the chart
below and pick your rank.
So here goes for exact exp.
Rank 6 250 exp and 13 total background points
Rank 7 300 exp and 15 total background's
Rank 8 350 exp and 17 total background's
Rank 9 400 exp and 19 total background's
And even though you cant start out at rank 10
Rank 10 500 exp and 25 total background's
(Some of the rank 10 fighters even surpass this.)

Cliff

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6614 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Street fury alpha: The contenders
Exp. Awards you get one exp. per rank of the fighter
you defeat and half that if you loose.


Contenders by rank

Rank: 6
Tony- Style hakuokyusaken decipel of terry bogard and
bit of a hot head. Age 14 Country: America
Quote: " Yeah "

Sue-Lynn Style Snake kung fu money grubbing dim mak
expert watch your wallets. Age 13 Country: China
Quote: " Sure I can use chi Kung healing but it
ill Cost you"

Ramero diez Style thai-kickboxing an unfocused warrior
who constantly tries to sneak into bars. Age: 16
Country: Brazil
Quote: " No really I'm 21 let me help you up and
lets go out for a drink"

Ty Style Boxing rival of shin likes dashing punches.
Age: 17 Country: Japan
Quote: "Fly like a humming bird sting like a
blow fish."

Rank: 7
Shin Style- Sakyo ryu karate a warrior with an urge to
glorify his style for his mentor Dan. Age: 17
Country: Japan
Quote: "Don't feel bad everyone looses to me"

Shutaro Style Sumo a "Skinny" sumo Actually a mountain
of muscles but kind of slow. Age: 18
Country: USA, Hawaii
Quote: " Hmm... Useless"

Amanda Style wrestling A proud wrestler whom fights
for
Her people. Age: 23 Country: USA
Quote: "...."

Rank: 8
Quin Style Kabadi a kangaroo fanatic and master of
shado-Roo a little nuts but not a bad guy.
Age: 31 Country: Australia
Quote: " why yes I do think kangaroos are the
next logical step in evolution care to discuss
it"

El-Diablo Style pro wrestling a luchadore with some hi
flying moves lackey of Ragnarok. Age: 30
Country: Mexico
Quote: "You wish to face El-Diablo the devil
than
I will crush you vato"

The cravens Style ler-drit twin brothers who cheat big
time Age: 22, Country: Mirganka, USA
Quote: " Mr. Howard wishes to speak with you"

Kang-Chi Style ninjitsu a ninja who has turned to
street fighting when his own special calone
Was put on the market and his identity was
Uncovered. Age: 26 Country: China
Quote: "Feel the chill of the arctic wind"

Cody Williams Style Kobujitsu a wise cracking pretty
boy Cody likes to show off on occasion he fights
with a sword. Age: 24 Country: USA
Quote: " Hot Damn I'm Good!"

Rank: 9
Shuna Kane Style Spanish ninjitsu an exotic beauty
from
Spain has mastered many forms of the tumbling
attack. Age: 27 Country: Spain
Quote: "Looks and Strength is there a more
stunning creature than I"

San Chun Style Snake kung fu mysterious assassin with
many nerve strikes and as fast as a cobra rumor
has it he knows a nerve strike which causes death.
Age: 40 Country: China
Quote: " To live as a serpent you must die as a
serpent, On your belly"

Dark Shin Style Dark siakyo karate nothing is known
about this mysterious figure besides his
resemblance to shin. Age? Country?
Quote: "Impressive"

Rank: 10 you must earn the right to challenge these
Mighty warriors by climbing from rank 9 don't
challenge them they will challenge you.

King Ragnarok, Style:?? one phrase can describes
Ragnarok "honorless hulking beast" this guy is a
monster and likes to end fighting careers prefers
to crush his opponents to a pulp.He wears spiked
red and black Platemail. No one has ever seen his
face.
Age: 29 Country: USA
Quote: " Never, Ever! Try to face me again next
time they will have to replace that leg."

Jordan Style wu shu Jordan is a very nice person that
is fast as lightning likes to blow bubbles while
opponents are dizzy, has his own brand of
bubblegum which he endorses Age: 21
Country: china
Quote: " Good Fight"

Thai quan do style Thai kickboxing This man is cybered
up to the max he has retractable knee and elbow
spurs he devastates his opponents with his
flaming tiger knee. Age: 25 Country: USA
Quote: " DIE PRETTY BOY!"

Lao-te Style? This being of pure energy is still a
mystery it appeared on the circuit last year and
has Sky rocketed to rank 10, This being claims to
be Over 1000 years old.The closest thing to a loss
it has ever gotten was draw aganst King ragnarok
In it's first fight.Age? Country: Atlantis
Quote: " I will liberate your flesh from your
bones with the power atomic"




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Group: streetfighter Message: 6615 From: cliff rice Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Ages challange.
Joseph challanges, Jean Paul Collier he must train to
better himself for his remach with lars ax.

1- Block.
2- Sibereian suplex.
3- Nock choke for combo.
4- Turn punch.
5- torture rack.(charging turn punch
6- Medium punch.
7- Fist sweep.
8- shock wave.
9- Release turn punch.
10- Sibereian suplex.



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Group: streetfighter Message: 6616 From: Joseph Scott Pittman Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Street fury alpha: The contenders
Those of you who wish to participate in the irc chat-room tournaments:

Please send in a Rank 1, newly created fighter with details on how you spent
your freebie points. Also include when you can play (what nights and times)
so i can match fighters up.

Rules for creating characters:
You may use any styles or maneuvers found in any of the books or on my own
homepage. This includes Maneuvers from the Encyclopedia Combatica, and the
New Maneuvers chart (as long as you send in the choices you made on the
chart, and details on the point costs).

EXCEPTIONS
No animal hybirds or cybernetics (let's try something NEW that isn't quite
so unbalancing)

HOUSE RULES
1.You may abort to ANY Block Maneuver, and crouching Blocks are allowed.
2.Blind Fighting follows the rules on my home page.
3."Maps" are concidered two dimensional (a straight line of 12 squares).
Player 1 begins on square 4 and player two on square 9, leaving 4 squares
between them when combat begins.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6617 From: Josh Diemert Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:
> Krabi Krabong is the russian one right?

Krabi Krabong is a Thai Weapons Style developed
alongside (and taught in the same schools as) Muay
Thai. It emphasizes use of polearms, spears and other
long, bladed weapons.

For an example, watch Kickboxer staring Van Damme.
The training method his teacher uses towards the end,
in the ruins, is basic Krabi Krabong. (I think.)

Josh

"If only the good die young, I want to be as evil as
possible and live forever."

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6618 From: J.J. Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Krug-Iron" <inrifrost@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .


>
>
> >EVERY martial style I am aware of teaches weapon forms at the higher
level,
> >except western sporting styles such as boxing and kickboxing. In fact,
for
> >Kung Fu and Karate especially (all you Karatekas can correct me if I'm
> >wrong, but I know this is true for Kung Fu) weapons and weapons
techniques
> >are considered SUPERIOR to unarmed techniques, and that the teaching of a
> >weapon's full effectiveness can only come to someone who has already
> >mastered his own body. You must master yourself before you can master
> >another, as it were.
>
> I've trained Shotokan for three years. I don't know about anyone else, or
> maybe it's an SKA thing, but I've never seen the use of weapons in
Shotokan
> condoned, at least where I've trained. Maybe it's regional?
>
>
> "Wanna fight?"
> "Them's fightin' words!"
>


Is Karate not the one that means 'empty hand' ?

I do know that a number of styles were designed around the fact that the
practicioner did not have access to weapons, or that access was severely
hampered.

However, this does not stop individual modern schools from teaching how to
use weapons. Some arts were even designed around having a weapon in your
hand.

(Offhand, I can't quite remember the name of one that is designed around a
blade tucked into your left palm.)

However, don't think that incorporating a weapon into another art is going
to substitute for being a weaponsmaster in your own right if up against
someone that only trains with the weapon. The results of that aren't pretty.
Men who religously followed Freddy Kruger and Jason Voorheese
(howeverthehellyouspellit) stopped watching slasher flicks and still have
recurring nightmares from watching some of the Corrections videos on what a
knife fighter can do to someone in a matter of seconds.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6619 From: Knight of the Black Rose Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: New Streetfighter Supplement Online
My self-made Street Fighter supplement is now on-line at
http://miavx1.muohio.edu/~aefigueroa/sf_suppl.htm.
Feedback & comments are welcome.
I may actually put some campaign information up next.

Tony
Group: streetfighter Message: 6620 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ha ha ha, good tag, but I MUST reply. . . . .
Internal strength is a type of strength that comes from thing like chi and
ki, and as far as the bully and lunch money thing if the kid is scared
enough and and its just one bully that bully might get killed (the scared
rat syndrome). Also as far as pain, is cocerned when was that last time dad
clean the house when he had his period, or made you dinner. When we as men
most of us even the ones that are "Super Human" and don't care to admit it
get sick or even bad headaches turn into mush, Women still function. Also
when was the last time dad took care of you when you were sick. Do you think
you could handle 19 plus hours of labor pain, I'd put money that you can't.
Most of us don't even like needles.

>From: "Joseph Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ha ha ha, good tag, but I MUST reply. . . . .
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:21:39 -0700
>
> >>Internal strength can almost always get around physical strength.
>
>Yeah right. Speed mabye. Intelligence prehaps. Internal Strength? I never
>seen a kid beat up the bully that takes his lunch money with "internal
>strength".
>
> >>Women are in high possesion of internal strength. It comes easier to
>them
>because they
>don't rely on muscles to do the job where men usually do. Women are born
>with a higher internal strength than men we usually have to work harder at
>it.
>
>I don't see what you are talking about here. What exactly is this "interna;
>strength" that women have more of? What are they doing that doesnt rely on
>as many muscles?
>
> >> About sizes of women, you cant really so that all women are built small
>and of weaker statues. It depends on where you are from. In countries like
>Germany and Sweden women there are of much bigger build and can kick the
>bejezus out of some the sissy that one would refer to as strong.
>
>I bet those women aren't so pretty. I'd probably call em' strange looking
>men.
>
> >> Also women take much more pain than us, which is a very important point
>in a fight.
>
>Most women I know don't take pain any better than I do.
>
> >>Notice that we do not have the children.
>I never even noticed. WOW!
>I suppose this relates to the thing about having children being the worst
>pain ever felt by humans. HOWEVER, in tests the most recorded pain levels
>(as far as scientists can tell) seems to be from the passing of what is
>called a "barbed" kidney stone from the average MALE.
>
> >>There mental state also is a bit more focussed than men,
>
>I TOTALY disagree here. Women are not nearly as focused on a task as men,
>and their thoughts an emotions fluctuate wildly.
>
> >> in fight a women would already be thinking about the
>best way to get the job done, while we would be scoffing about the fact of
>having to fight them. All in all men and women could kick each others
>butts,
>its not about being a man or women its just about who is the better fighter
>for whatever reason.
>
>I agree. In the ROLE PLAY GAME, that women are great fighters, and make
>interesting and cinematic characters. In the real world they are weaker
>(40%
>less muscle per pound, even if they are large), and not nearly as
>combat-minded or agressive as the normal male human.
>
>
>

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6621 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Men VS Women
hehehehehe BWAHAHAHAHA....ahem ahem

>From: "Spirto" <spirto@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Men VS Women
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:04:38 EDT
>
> >>I'm not saying that women are weak, just physically weaker ON THE
>AVERAGE
> >>(in real life). Whitney Houston's bodyguard kicked the crap of of three
> >>male attackers who tried to get past her to Whitney by FIGHTING their
>way
> >>to her... and the bodyguard was a >>human<<
>
>As opposed to her bodyguard being a monkey? :)
>
>MikeM
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6622 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/18/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] "The last words" By evil guys.
Hey what about "This is gonna hurt you a whole lot more than its gonna hurt
me"

>From: "Jeff Y" <shinjo7@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] "The last words" By evil guys.
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:06:45 GMT
>
>Just had to get in on the fun ;)
>Famous player last words...
>
>*He can't have more than 5 dots in strength!
>*He just shot me where?
>*Hold on! I think I forgot to add some armor somewhere!
>*Wait! I almost forgot that I REMEMBERED to grab my helmit back when we
>left
>the hotel!
>*I swear that I brought that helmit into the 5-star restaraunt!
>*Oops!
>*It's only -1 soak.
>*(Storyteller)I think i'm going to need more dice.
>*(Storyteller) I spent three hours rolling this guy up!
>*(Storyteller) GM's perogotive
>
>Famous Bad guy Last Words...
>*Ok little man...<smack>
>*It's time for you to DIE!...<thump>
>*(player)I garrot his ass!
>*(Storyteller)You hit him HOW hard?
>*(Player)I think i'm going to need more dice.
>*(Player) Yep...i need more dice.
>*You can't possibly defeat my superior technique!
>*(Storyteller) I spent five hours rolling this guy up!
>*(Storyteller) NOBODY ONE ROUNDS MR. PANDA! (long story...well not really)
>
>Jeff
>
> >--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > I play many time and I remember many last words from the bad guys I�m
> >curious
> > > if someone
> > > have a good one, just use the memory and remember the good moment.
>this
> >words
> > > are from
> > > thugs and of course the boss. This could be fun see the other people
> >campaing
> > > words in
> > > the list :).
> >
> >Cool Idea!
> >
> >1. Hmmm. You're not bad. Want to join the winning team? We have a
>great
> >dental plan. *after the players procede with the smackdown* Ouch, I'm
> >glad I
> >had that plan...Boss
> >
> >2. I am Franz and he be Hanz and were here to f@ck *flexes* you
>up!...Mid
> >Boss
> >
> >3. Boss! I'm in big trouble here and I need... what? Yes I'll
> >hold...Corrupt
> >promoter
> >
> >4. Ouch! You've been using codes! Cheater!...Thug
> >
> >5. Hah! You have fallen in to my trap. Now I can anilate you with my
> >ultimate plot device! Now where did I put that...Boss
> >
> >6. Hah! Once again you have fallen in to my trap. Now I shall anilate
> >you
> >with my ultima...WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY ULTIMATE PLOT DEVICE. Well,
> >this
> >just SUCKS!... Boss II Return of the Sequel
> >
> >7. Hmmm, you are just one man. We should just beat the living crap out
>of
> >you. Fortunately, we are enlightened thugs and know your kung fu is
>better
> >than ours, so we shall run. *procede to run smack into a wall*...Thugs
> >
> >8. Go away! I'm in my happy place!...Boss
> >
> >9. Thank god it's not those damn turtles again!...Boss
> >
> >10. Wait! What are you doing! You can't beat us up, we're just
> >bankrobbers.
> >Bison is going to conquer the world while you deal with small timers like
> >us.
> >How about you let us go, and we won't get in your way.
> >
> >I didn't think you'd go for it...Thugs
> >
> >As you can tell, my campaigns tend to run in the surreal.
> >
> > > 1- You must be kidding... (Smash)... No he isn�t it. Thug words.
> > > 2- If have a few seconds...Boss words.
> > > 3- Hey this isn�t fair how can you untie your ropes open the Metal
>door
> >and
> > > appear here
> > > in my secret lab all this and just in few minutes. Boss words.
> > > 4- Trust me. Thug words.
> > > 5- No problem I solve it soon. Thug words.
> > > 6- I�m invincible. Boss words.
> > > 7- Oh s...(well people do this in the bathroom). Boss and Thug words.
> > > 8- He is only a old guy. Thug words about any martial arts master.
> > > 9- We are 3 he can�t beat us right guys? Guys? Hey where everybody go?
> >Thug
> > > words.
> > > 10- Why I put a self destruction buttom in my secret vulcano base?
>Boss
> > > words.
> >
> >=====
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> >
> >"We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> >--we merely expect them to try."
> > -- Robert Heinlein
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6623 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Nope didn't teach it in my class either.

>From: "Chris Krug-Iron" <inrifrost@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:31:07 PDT
>
>
>
> >EVERY martial style I am aware of teaches weapon forms at the higher
>level,
> >except western sporting styles such as boxing and kickboxing. In fact,
>for
> >Kung Fu and Karate especially (all you Karatekas can correct me if I'm
> >wrong, but I know this is true for Kung Fu) weapons and weapons
>techniques
> >are considered SUPERIOR to unarmed techniques, and that the teaching of a
> >weapon's full effectiveness can only come to someone who has already
> >mastered his own body. You must master yourself before you can master
> >another, as it were.
>
>I've trained Shotokan for three years. I don't know about anyone else, or
>maybe it's an SKA thing, but I've never seen the use of weapons in Shotokan
>condoned, at least where I've trained. Maybe it's regional?
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6624 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Your most likely right....DAMN I'm missing Gundamn!!!!!

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:13:13 -0400
>
>Y'know what?
>
>I give up. I'm convinced at this point that we're not even speaking the
>same language.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:08 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
>
>
>I don't really consider the razor in the toes a weapon, I mean it is, but
>they don't learn forms with it, from my understanding, it only adds to the
>damage from the kicks they already know, it's like the kick equivalent of
>brass knuckles, you know? Honestly, my expertise in style lore is pretty
>much only Japanese styles, I know a little bit about other stuff, but it's
>semi sketchy (all you need to do is look at my eroneous comments regarding
>Wu shu) . . . . .
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6625 From: Yu Ominae Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
Gotta love Jackie

>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:16:07 -0400
>
>
>Krabi Krabong is not Russian, although its origin eludes me right now.
>Boxe
>Francais is the "legal" (read: competition) form of Savate.
>
>Jackie fought with a bench in both Drunken Master and another film whose
>name eludes me right now (the one where he was fighting some girl he didn't
>want to hurt so instead of actually hitting her he just kept kissing her
>and
>groping her ass until someone else stopped the fight).
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:13 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
>
>
>Krabi Krabong is the russian one right? I don't know too much about
>European styles other than pankration (I was gonna take it, but realized I
>knew all the moves already from Jujitsu), I know a LITTLE about Savate, but
>the difference between that and Boxe Francais eludes me, as well as a lot
>of the indigenous styles from spain, italy and the scandinavian countries.
>. . . . . .I believe the chair one though, I am pretty sure Choy Li Fut
>teaches fighting with a long pipe (the smoking kind, not like plumbing),
>and I think I saw Jackie Chan fight with a bench in one of his old movies
>(when he actually did traditional Kung Fu). . . . .
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6626 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] help wanted
> I do believe that Ler Dritt uses the same mental power that Rose uses.
> I.e., they both use psychic power. However, M.Bison uses the dark side,
> oohhh scary.
>
> Rose's style is one of the many styles in my supplemental material I plan
> to turn into a netbook soon.

I know we've had this discussion before but....doesn't Rose use Ler
Dridt?

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6627 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
> My favorite way to stop a cartwheel kick is a good block and Maka Wara
> (Yeah I'll teach you to try to kick me!!), my runner up favorite is to try
> to beat them on speed and use a flying heel stomp to bash them on the head
> and move away, I guess displacement would work equally well. . . . . .

catch them right in the middle of a Cartwheel kick with a flying heel
stomp, and I don't think you'd hit them on the head. I also think that
they'd be sining soprano for the next couple rounds.

Auto-Dizzy! :)

Question: When you guys use the Cartwheel kick -- do you tone down the
move modifier at all (+2) as suggested on Howard Collins' page? (now
there's a name I haven't seen on the list in awhile)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6628 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Alpha 3 in the RPG
> ....especially if you use the cracked out Alpha 3
> backgrounds (yeah, Bison gets his power from a bic machine that no one
> else knows about....

Agreed.
The idea about the meteorite in the RPG is a heckuva lot more
imaginative.

> ....and he kidnapped Cammy to be his top assassin *wink
> wink*),

Don't forget Juni and Julie -- the Cammy-clones. Evil Dictators get all
the chiks. Go Bison, Go Bison! woo-woo!

> My favorite characters from there to put in
> the game are: Karin and Sakura as rank 1 or 2,

I can see how that would be fun -- although in the game they are
annoyingly hard. Dan would also make a good Rank one annoyance ofr the
players, showing up to taunt them at every tournament only to get
himself pummeled. NPCs like like keep the players motivated. :)

> Gen (I made him a 4 point sensei of Kung Fu), Shin Akuma (Oh,
> so you say Ken and Ryu aren't powerful enough huh?), and MAYBE R. Mika as a
> rank 1 (as much as I don't like an over abundance of female fighters,

Yeah you keep saying that....but even girls can learn sanbo. :)
Watch out for her flyin-ass technique.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6629 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Where

Ahhhhh. It figures a little too far north for me I live down in Southren CA the San Bernadino Area. Unfortunatley I never get up that far north. Oh well at least I tried.

-Chad Phillips

downfall <rrchrdsn@...> wrote:



Clk Whrr Chad wrote:
>
> One last thing for today does anybody live anywhere near the westcoast
> of the U.S.. I'm trying to find someone else to run some Street
> Fighter with the group I usually run with hasn't run in a while and it
> seem that we are kinda of stoping for now.
>
> -Chad Phillips

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6630 From: J.J. Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Alpha 3 in the RPG
> > My favorite characters from there to put in
> > the game are: Karin and Sakura as rank 1 or 2,
>
> I can see how that would be fun -- although in the game they are
> annoyingly hard. Dan would also make a good Rank one annoyance ofr the
> players, showing up to taunt them at every tournament only to get
> himself pummeled. NPCs like like keep the players motivated. :)
>

Oddly enough, I'd put him up there close to the others. (Maybe 7 or 8)

I've found that if someone can't master the 'circle swing' of Zangief's
piledriver and can't stand fighting the controller for a dragon punch, Dan's
weak ass specials force a more basic game that can wind up putting a good
hurt on someone who relies too heavily on the special moves, and removes the
temptation to try for 'just one good Hadoken'... because there's no way to
get one.

(In other words, in his first appearance at the local arcade, Dan was one of
my strongest characters.)
Group: streetfighter Message: 6631 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] What tourmant/fight I'd like to see

Well first I don't even know if I would compete in it the fight/tournament if it were a fight it would just be a one shot thing. But even if I did no one if unbeatable especially if someone else is running the character. But what I said is I'd like to see it. I think it would be interesting watching everybody's charcters squaring off against each other. Besides it's just an idea I'd like to see happen.

-Chad Phillips

azathoth05@... wrote:

yeah and that means we'd all have to beat Shok at some point-remember him???


In a message dated 4/14/00 8:57:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fishbn@... writes:

<< That wouldn't necessarily be bad, but the problem is A) a lot of the
internet maneuvers aer either cheap or unbalancing, and B) no all our
characters would be the same rank. . . .I probably have not been playing my
current character as long as some people in this group. . . . >>


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Group: streetfighter Message: 6632 From: Clk Whrr Chad Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .

Like the title "Knight of the Black Rose", but unfortunatley Takhisis bailed on you at the wrong moment.

-Chad Phillips

Knight of the Black Rose <anton_figueroa@...> wrote:

I've been playing the SF RPG on off for about a year now and have finally
found a good playing group.

Am I ever happy to see that other people still play this game and have
information on the web.

The only book I'm missing is the SF Players Guide. If anyone is willing
to help me find a copy to buy or has stats for the moves from it written
up, let me know.
My own SF Supplement should be up on the web soon. Of course, it seems
everyone with a SF web page has their own supplemental material, but
maybe other people can get a laugh out of what I've done.

The game I'm running essentially is mixing Streetfighter, King of
Fighters, and Variable Geo. Currently the VG-inspired chronicle is at the
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6633 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] What tourmant/fight I'd like to see
I guess, I play twice a week usually though, so my character levels up
pretty fast. . . . .I just picked up the great Wall of China to go along
with my Air hurricane, light feet, forward slide kick, and musical
accompaniement (he can ALMOST beat some of the world warriors). . . . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6634 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
But I use a hex map people known about it, in Gateway I use it to fights but in
Gateway I don´t have a fighter with Cartwheel Kick, and in this one I have a hex
map too, the only thing it´s that don´t have limit of space.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your maneuvers on
> a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in a
> tournament such as this. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> kick and
> we already talk about this.
>
> Chris Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon Reborn
> is
> > > more faster
> > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1, 4,
> 4, 1,
> > > 5 points of
> > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already fall
> before
> > > but I just
> > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> >
> > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> >
> > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of me:
> pull
> > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium depleted
> shells.
> > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat If
> dead:
> > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6635 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements :).
I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout ,willpower 10
and luck in dice roll just it.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your maneuvers on
> a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in a
> tournament such as this. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> kick and
> we already talk about this.
>
> Chris Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon Reborn
> is
> > > more faster
> > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1, 4,
> 4, 1,
> > > 5 points of
> > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already fall
> before
> > > but I just
> > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> >
> > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> >
> > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of me:
> pull
> > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium depleted
> shells.
> > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat If
> dead:
> > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> >
> > =====
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> > --we merely expect them to try."
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6636 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Stunning Shout will never beat Cartwheel Kick since anyone with half a brain
will have combo'd it. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:47 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
Plague.


Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements
:).
I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout ,willpower
10
and luck in dice roll just it.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your maneuvers
on
> a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in a
> tournament such as this. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> kick and
> we already talk about this.
>
> Chris Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon
Reborn
> is
> > > more faster
> > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1, 4,
> 4, 1,
> > > 5 points of
> > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already fall
> before
> > > but I just
> > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> >
> > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> >
> > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of
me:
> pull
> > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium depleted
> shells.
> > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat
If
> dead:
> > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6637 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Howard's still around, but he kinda went incognito after he moved to
Minnesota. Bastard coulda told me... I wouldn'tve bothered sending him a
wedding invitation. :p

I never bothered toning down the Cartwheel Kick because it's pretty much
neutered by enclosed spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Chagnon [mailto:seagull@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:29 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
Plague.


> My favorite way to stop a cartwheel kick is a good block and Maka Wara
> (Yeah I'll teach you to try to kick me!!), my runner up favorite is to try
> to beat them on speed and use a flying heel stomp to bash them on the head
> and move away, I guess displacement would work equally well. . . . . .

catch them right in the middle of a Cartwheel kick with a flying heel
stomp, and I don't think you'd hit them on the head. I also think that
they'd be sining soprano for the next couple rounds.

Auto-Dizzy! :)

Question: When you guys use the Cartwheel kick -- do you tone down the
move modifier at all (+2) as suggested on Howard Collins' page? (now
there's a name I haven't seen on the list in awhile)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6638 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
 
first time I saw his name, I thought of Kodachi Kuno.
 
(*insert high-pitched, maniacal laughter here*)
-----Original Message-----
From: Clk Whrr Chad [mailto:clk_whrr_chad@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:03 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .

Like the title "Knight of the Black Rose", but unfortunatley Takhisis bailed on you at the wrong moment.

-Chad Phillips

Knight of the Black Rose <anton_figueroa@...> wrote:

I've been playing the SF RPG on off for about a year now and have finally
found a good playing group.

Am I ever happy to see that other people still play this game and have
information on the web.

The only book I'm missing is the SF Players Guide. If anyone is willing
to help me find a copy to buy or has stats for the moves from it written
up, let me know.
My own SF Supplement should be up on the web soon. Of course, it seems
everyone with a SF web page has their own supplemental material, but
maybe other people can get a laugh out of what I've done.

The game I'm running essentially is mixing Streetfighter, King of
Fighters, and Variable Geo. Currently the VG-inspired chronicle is at the
forefront.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6639 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
--- Chris Krug-Iron <inrifrost@...> wrote:
> Are you kidding? Not to shoot down the idea, but I found it really
> refreshing to find one RPG (and my fave, besides) that didn't have a
> Merits/Flaws-type system.

They were on a roll with the main book and SoS, I was hoping they'd get it
right this time...

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6640 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Just joined the list . . .
--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> first time I saw his name, I thought of Kodachi Kuno.
>
> (*insert high-pitched, maniacal laughter here*)

Now that you mentioned it, he never did say *which* Black Rose... I mean, if
Mihoshi get's some knights, Kodachi can probably russle some up...

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Group: streetfighter Message: 6641 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
I personally just find the move distasteful, my character could pick up the
move, I just never had a desire you know??

>Howard's still around, but he kinda went incognito after he moved to
>Minnesota. Bastard coulda told me... I wouldn'tve bothered sending him a
>wedding invitation. :p
>
>I never bothered toning down the Cartwheel Kick because it's pretty much
>neutered by enclosed spaces.
Group: streetfighter Message: 6642 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
quite. which is why I think I've made all of two NPCs in my campaign with
the Cartwheel kick. My players don't use it (except one who has a hardon
for it, but he's not very good anyway), and I know how to keep it from being
a problem, so I never developed a real dislike for it.

-----Original Message-----
From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:39 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
Plague.


I personally just find the move distasteful, my character could pick up the
move, I just never had a desire you know??

>Howard's still around, but he kinda went incognito after he moved to
>Minnesota. Bastard coulda told me... I wouldn'tve bothered sending him a
>wedding invitation. :p
>
>I never bothered toning down the Cartwheel Kick because it's pretty much
>neutered by enclosed spaces.



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Group: streetfighter Message: 6643 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] New Streetfighter Supplement Online
Holy GOD!!! You use those maneuvers in campaigns????? That is EXACTLY what
I was talking about with maneuvers being unbalancing, I would agree with
Joe, in that his maneuvers are pretty balanced (I like the table, never
really thought about doing that, I wonder if my maneuvers fit), but those
maneuvers are god of all creation cheap. . . . . . . . . .The point of
making maneuvers is to make up ones that would be good that the book left
out, not "I never want to use the book maneuvers again"
Group: streetfighter Message: 6644 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Street fury alpha: The contenders
I made two characters, I'll email you either both or whichever one you
prefer, both are stock human using only stock, book maneuvers (no I didn't
give either one the cartwheel kick), one is a semi savage Lua fighter
(haven't given him a name yet), the other is a Thai Kickboxer, mostly punch
based. . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6645 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] who are the contestants again?
This a good idea who fight in your tournament Chris you have fighter list?
By the way he (Cliff Rice) want known about Ages contestants he e-mail later
to known the list :). Just for curious what manuvers you can do with weapons
I don´t known any official manuver with weapon do you known any (Basic
manuvers with weapons I already known is valid).

Chris Krug-Iron wrote:

> Who are you referring to?
>
> Chris Krug-Iron
>
> >From: cliff rice <shinzite@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] who are the contestants again?
> >Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> > Would you mind listing the contestants again?
> >
> > Cliff
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6646 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: this is kinda funny. . . . .. .
This is actually kinda funny, I had a character who was a combat guru,
animal hybrid with the carwheel kick comboed right? I dropped him, and my
GM started using him as an NPC thug (the way he was going, it fits for the
character), anyways so Shadowloo started using my character (named Xian as
a note), so Xian was a real terror in the ring and he always fought with a
couple of cybernetic hybrids (a spider jujitsu stylist with all physical
stats at 7, and a beetle jujitsu stylist with strength and stam of 7, 20
health, breakfall, grappling defense, whol nine yards), anyways, my
character was escaping from a shadowloo experiment and they put this group
there to stop them, lucky we had chun li on our side. It was a brutal
fight, but we won (with a few lucky rolls from some repeating fireballs),
and I actually killed Xian, my own character, I was wondering if anyone
else has ever done that. . . . . .Killed there own character I mean, not
the WHOLE story . . . . .
Group: streetfighter Message: 6647 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Ages Challenges: Joseph Masterson Vs Jean Paul Collier.
Is funny fact, Cliff your fighter says:"litle man" but at this moment
all persons he fight are more taller than he. Isn´t it funny :).

Joseph Masterson Player: Cliff Rice Style: Boxing/Sambo Country:
Germany.

Appearance: Joseph Is only about 5'11" But is abseenly huge muscled he
wears elbow pads and combat boodt in the ring his hands are taped up. He
has brown hair cut similarly like balrogs and wears ripped blue jeans.

Quote before fight: "Come Face me little man" (Pops his knuckles)

Vs

Jean Paul Collier Player: Npc Style: Savate Country: France

Appearance: Jean Paul Collier is a medium man about 6'2" 160 lbs, is
very well dressed in his seaman clothes of course he is the captain with
many nautic instruments but his saber isn´t here and his archebust gun
either.

Quote before fight: "Oui mon ami this isn´t a pleasure but if you insist
I will fight with you"

Move 1- Joseph Masterson block and Jean Paul Collier move 3 hexes and
make Slide Kick for combo and Joseph Masterson receive: 6 points of
damage.
Move 2- Jean Paul Collier is more faster with his Flying Thrust Kick
than Joseph Masterson Siberian Suplex and he receive: 7 points of damage
and stun!!!
Move 3- Joseph Masterson is dizzy and Jean Paul Collier make a pose
adjust his corsair hat.
Move 4- Joseph Masterson try to make Turn Punch but Jean Paul Collier is
more faster and make a Lunging Punch for combo and Joseph Masterson
receive: no damage... Joseph Masterson hit his Turn Punch and Jean Paul
Collier receive: 8 points of damage and stun!!!
Move 5- With a free action Joseph Masterson don´t share Jean Paul
Collier gentleman act and grab the poor pirate using his Torture Hack
(Start concentrate Turn Punch) Jean Paul Collier receives: 3 points of
damage and strenght contest and Joseph Masterson continue holding.
Move 6- Joseph Masterson continue Torture Hack (Continue Turn Punch) and
Jean Paul Collier receive: 5 points of damage and in strenght contest
and Joseph Masterson continue hold.
Move 7- Joseph Masterson continue Torture Hack and Jean Paul Collier
receive: 7 points of damage and is knockout.
Joseph Masterson wins by Knockout.
Joseph Masterson Signature: Lift a defeated opponent over head And
presses him a few times.

Players can challenge any character just let me known and who want enter
in Ages Tournament just e-mail
And I use a Hex map to this, isn´t easy understand some instructions but
I make a extra effort to this
See ya folk :).
Group: streetfighter Message: 6648 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Only with you have wits 7 (is a focus manuver) and you reach the guy with some
athletic work if you win the will contest the Cartwheel kick is stoped of course
I forget to say to build a combo using stunning shout you known, Stunning Shout
and a very good speed manuver after maybe Cannon Drill + Music Acompaniement
with Plague this works at a first moment :).

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Stunning Shout will never beat Cartwheel Kick since anyone with half a brain
> will have combo'd it. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:47 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements
> :).
> I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout ,willpower
> 10
> and luck in dice roll just it.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your maneuvers
> on
> > a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in a
> > tournament such as this. :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> > Plague.
> >
> > A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> > kick and
> > we already talk about this.
> >
> > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> > > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon
> Reborn
> > is
> > > > more faster
> > > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1, 4,
> > 4, 1,
> > > > 5 points of
> > > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already fall
> > before
> > > > but I just
> > > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> > >
> > > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> > >
> > > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of
> me:
> > pull
> > > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium depleted
> > shells.
> > > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat
> If
> > dead:
> > > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> > >
> > > =====
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> > > --we merely expect them to try."
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6649 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
But you want a jerk way to stop this thing try use Maka like B.Fish says but buy
Maka Wara (dizzy) it´s jerk but you can make a manuver turn dizzy paying a extra
power point in character creation this is or not a jerk way, and I already look
in isn´t any place write is don´t valid in my mind I say this jerk...

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Stunning Shout will never beat Cartwheel Kick since anyone with half a brain
> will have combo'd it. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:47 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements
> :).
> I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout ,willpower
> 10
> and luck in dice roll just it.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your maneuvers
> on
> > a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in a
> > tournament such as this. :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> > Plague.
> >
> > A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> > kick and
> > we already talk about this.
> >
> > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> > > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon
> Reborn
> > is
> > > > more faster
> > > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1, 4,
> > 4, 1,
> > > > 5 points of
> > > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already fall
> > before
> > > > but I just
> > > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> > >
> > > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> > >
> > > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of
> me:
> > pull
> > > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium depleted
> > shells.
> > > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat
> If
> > dead:
> > > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> > >
> > > =====
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> > >
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> > > --we merely expect them to try."
> > > -- Robert Heinlein
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6650 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
sure, Maka Wara is probably one of the best ways. Few fighters have Wits 7,
so I wouldn't rely on that Stunning Shout combo.

Besides, you forgot the ever-popular Dex 5/Block to Cartwheel Kick combo. ;)
Speed 10 with Musical Accompaniment!

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:03 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
Plague.


But you want a jerk way to stop this thing try use Maka like B.Fish says but
buy
Maka Wara (dizzy) it´s jerk but you can make a manuver turn dizzy paying a
extra
power point in character creation this is or not a jerk way, and I already
look
in isn´t any place write is don´t valid in my mind I say this jerk...

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Stunning Shout will never beat Cartwheel Kick since anyone with half a
brain
> will have combo'd it. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:47 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements
> :).
> I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout
,willpower
> 10
> and luck in dice roll just it.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your
maneuvers
> on
> > a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in
a
> > tournament such as this. :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> > Plague.
> >
> > A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> > kick and
> > we already talk about this.
> >
> > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> > > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon
> Reborn
> > is
> > > > more faster
> > > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1,
4,
> > 4, 1,
> > > > 5 points of
> > > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already
fall
> > before
> > > > but I just
> > > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> > >
> > > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> > >
> > > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of
> me:
> > pull
> > > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium
depleted
> > shells.
> > > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat
> If
> > dead:
> > > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > staredown@... http://members.xoom.com/staredown
> > >
> > > "We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> > > --we merely expect them to try."
> > > -- Robert Heinlein
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6651 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Power playing in street fighter??
We are talking of maneuvers someone normal can actually have, even for a
cybernetic with mental stats as his primary, it would cost 36xp JUST to get
the wits up to 7, why would a character waste those points? if they're
human that's 76xp, I don't know about you, but I can think of a LOT of
better things to do with 76 points than to get one scary stat. Same reason
I don't like having people create high level players. It's like if you're
playing D&D, (forgive me, gotta use this one), and you start with 20th
level characters, you never built them up, you just wanted to play powerful
characters without taking the time and effort to level them up. Now my own
character is decent, but I made him from scratch, and I take pride in what
he can do, I don't think you can really say that about someone who starts
powerful.

>Only with you have wits 7 (is a focus manuver) and you reach the guy with
some
>athletic work if you win the will contest the Cartwheel kick is stoped of
course
>I forget to say to build a combo using stunning shout you known, Stunning
Shout
>and a very good speed manuver after maybe Cannon Drill + Music Acompaniement
>with Plague this works at a first moment :).
Group: streetfighter Message: 6652 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
Yup this I´m realy forgot this.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> sure, Maka Wara is probably one of the best ways. Few fighters have Wits 7,
> so I wouldn't rely on that Stunning Shout combo.
>
> Besides, you forgot the ever-popular Dex 5/Block to Cartwheel Kick combo. ;)
> Speed 10 with Musical Accompaniment!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:03 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> Plague.
>
> But you want a jerk way to stop this thing try use Maka like B.Fish says but
> buy
> Maka Wara (dizzy) it´s jerk but you can make a manuver turn dizzy paying a
> extra
> power point in character creation this is or not a jerk way, and I already
> look
> in isn´t any place write is don´t valid in my mind I say this jerk...
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > Stunning Shout will never beat Cartwheel Kick since anyone with half a
> brain
> > will have combo'd it. :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:47 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> > Plague.
> >
> > Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements
> > :).
> > I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout
> ,willpower
> > 10
> > and luck in dice roll just it.
> >
> > Steve Karstensen wrote:
> >
> > > yea, but nearly all of them involve being able to plan out your
> maneuvers
> > on
> > > a hexmap and to use terrain to your advantage. None of which exists in
> a
> > > tournament such as this. :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 5:17 PM
> > > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs
> > > Plague.
> > >
> > > A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop Cartwell
> > > kick and
> > > we already talk about this.
> > >
> > > Chris Hoffmann wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > > > Move 5- Plague try to make a Jumping Shoulder Butt but The Dragon
> > Reborn
> > > is
> > > > > more faster
> > > > > hit his Cartwheel kick and Plague receives: 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 8, 1,
> 4,
> > > 4, 1,
> > > > > 5 points of
> > > > > damage and after receive all this damage is knockout. (he already
> fall
> > > before
> > > > > but I just
> > > > > say The Dragon Reborn still kicking the poor guy while he colapse).
> > > >
> > > > Rinaldo, please add to Rebellion's tactics the following item:
> > > >
> > > > If anyone I even suspect having cartwheel kick comes within 25 feet of
> > me:
> > > pull
> > > > out my automag and shoot them between the eyes with my uranium
> depleted
> > > shells.
> > > > Repeat until dead or out of ammo. If out of ammo: Reload and repeat
> > If
> > > dead:
> > > > Throw a block of cheddar on the body.
> > > >
> > > > =====
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6653 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
I want make a tournament with powerfull characters this the reason but when you
put 7 in place you remove from another one don´t forget this, everyone have
weakness in some place. But you known something strange is more fun run a rank 1
tournament than a rank 9 tournament it´s strange but I think that way but now I
start something and I must finish it. :).

brian fish wrote:

> We are talking of maneuvers someone normal can actually have, even for a
> cybernetic with mental stats as his primary, it would cost 36xp JUST to get
> the wits up to 7, why would a character waste those points? if they're
> human that's 76xp, I don't know about you, but I can think of a LOT of
> better things to do with 76 points than to get one scary stat. Same reason
> I don't like having people create high level players. It's like if you're
> playing D&D, (forgive me, gotta use this one), and you start with 20th
> level characters, you never built them up, you just wanted to play powerful
> characters without taking the time and effort to level them up. Now my own
> character is decent, but I made him from scratch, and I take pride in what
> he can do, I don't think you can really say that about someone who starts
> powerful.
>
> >Only with you have wits 7 (is a focus manuver) and you reach the guy with
> some
> >athletic work if you win the will contest the Cartwheel kick is stoped of
> course
> >I forget to say to build a combo using stunning shout you known, Stunning
> Shout
> >and a very good speed manuver after maybe Cannon Drill + Music Acompaniement
> >with Plague this works at a first moment :).
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6654 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
I completely agree with you, and although I disagree with your methods, I
can't help but respect the time and work you're putting into your tourney.
I think in a way it's good to play god likc characters from scratch, it
let's you appreciate your good old rank ones you know?

>I want make a tournament with powerfull characters this the reason but
when you
>put 7 in place you remove from another one don´t forget this, everyone have
>weakness in some place. But you known something strange is more fun run a
rank 1
>tournament than a rank 9 tournament it´s strange but I think that way but
now I
>start something and I must finish it. :).
Group: streetfighter Message: 6655 From: Jade M Prout Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Cartwheel Kick Blues
>> -----Original Message-----
A gun but anybody have a weapon here... Exist many ways to stop cartwheel kick

I've been using the "Steve Wieck" version of Cartwheel Kick, and it's not that scary. With all the talk I'v heard about the original being unbalancing, I figured why bother with the original?

Sure, you could build an entire character around it and whup ass indiscriminately, but what would your Concept be? Guy who whups ass with Cartwheel Kick? Gee, sounds like a really challenging roleplaying experience...


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Group: streetfighter Message: 6656 From: Jade M Prout Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
brian fish wrote:
>I think in a way it's good to play god likc characters from scratch, it
>let's you appreciate your good old rank ones you know?

Absolutely! I played a 25th-level D&D character once, and it sucked. When characters get that powerful, all the DM can do is try to kill them off in as nasty a manner as possible. That's no fun. A 1st-level character, on the other hand, could be killed by a kobold at the drop of a hat. That makes even the simplest adventures that much more thrilling.

I think if you're going to run a high-level story, the GM should build all the characters, or at least work with the players to ensure that the playing field is balanced and fair, and that nobody number-crunches too much.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 6657 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] OK, one LAST time. . . . . .
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, brian fish wrote:

> I'm reasonably sure that Boxe Francais and Savate are two different things,
> very similar, but not quite the same. I think one uses more kicks than the
> other or something like that. . . . . .

No. La Boxe Francais IS Savate. Besides, Krabi Krabong is from Thailand or
Malaysia. Possibly Vietnam, but thereabouts, geographically speaking.

---
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leirbakk@...
Group: streetfighter Message: 6658 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Bison's amazing intelligence...
I saw someone mention on the list that they thought the story about the
meteorite is damn more imaginative than the ones presented in the various
games. That may be so, but imagine how _intensely_ stupid M. Bison was
before his awakening? I mean, he was hoping it was a _plutonium_ mine?

---
Jens-Arthur Leirbakk
leirbakk@...
Group: streetfighter Message: 6659 From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages challenges: The Dragon Reborn Vs Plague.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

> Well at last I´m trying use a hex map for less confusion in movements :).
> I have a way to stop Cartwheel kick is simple Stunning Shout ,willpower 10
> and luck in dice roll just it.

Yeah, and my ears are still ringing from that Stunning shout
:) ... However, if people are really that unhappy about Cartwheel kick (I
won the match! Yay!), I'm willing to design another fighter not using
Cartwheel kick. So, what do you say, Rinaldo? Should I design another
fighter?

---
Jens-Arthur Leirbakk
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Group: streetfighter Message: 6660 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
one thing that amazes me about my players is that they are so quick to point
to their rank like it was some kind of Level in AD&D or something instead of
taking their actual abilities into account. They panic when their Rank 2s
get jumped by a squad of ten Shock Troopers and forget that they've already
earned enough XP to put them at Rank 5 if they'd done nothing but compete...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jade M Prout [mailto:twitchboy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:02 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??


brian fish wrote:
>I think in a way it's good to play god likc characters from scratch, it
>let's you appreciate your good old rank ones you know?

Absolutely! I played a 25th-level D&D character once, and it sucked. When
characters get that powerful, all the DM can do is try to kill them off in
as nasty a manner as possible. That's no fun. A 1st-level character, on
the other hand, could be killed by a kobold at the drop of a hat. That
makes even the simplest adventures that much more thrilling.

I think if you're going to run a high-level story, the GM should build all
the characters, or at least work with the players to ensure that the playing
field is balanced and fair, and that nobody number-crunches too much.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 6661 From: brian fish Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
In a way it is a level, it is the measuring stick street fighters use to
measure each other for commonality. A rank six should be evenly matched
with another rank six, and so on. I agree with you on what you said about
rank, we have some npc's who just don't fight in tourneys because people
refuse to fight them, so they're rank ones who could take a rank six or
seven. My own character is still technically a rank 6 (I think, whatever
21-6 is), but he hasn't had a match in so long, all he does is run around,
train, and get in the way of shadowloo (both accidently and on purpose),
when he goes back to tourney fighting, he's probably gonna go straight for
world warriors (First thing is a rematch with Dee Jay). That having been
said, it's still a matter of starting with experienced characters, it
basically ruins the game. My own character is right now trying to master
his style, it just wouldn't have been the same had I just been handed the
points (also I probably would have wound up with different maneuvers,
priorities change during game play). .. . . . . .
>
>one thing that amazes me about my players is that they are so quick to point
>to their rank like it was some kind of Level in AD&D or something instead of
>taking their actual abilities into account. They panic when their Rank 2s
>get jumped by a squad of ten Shock Troopers and forget that they've already
>earned enough XP to put them at Rank 5 if they'd done nothing but compete...
Group: streetfighter Message: 6662 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 4/19/2000
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??
Heh. I dunno, I just shake my head and sigh when one of my players gives me
The Look. You all know The Look. That look that, upon your announcement
that four more Shock Troopers brought up the rear to cut them off, signifies
that your players think your favorite hobby is tossing them into deathtraps
and watching them die. That "How could you do this to us?!" look that
signifies incredulity at your lack of foresight into their capabilities.

Forgive me for assuming that, since your Fierce Punch does 13 dice of damage
and you have five Stamina, that you could take on four thugs at once. With
two Stamina each.

Never mind the fact that twenty minutes later, the players are still
standing and the Shock Troopers have been bent in half.

Perhaps I should be flattered that I've achieved that modicum of controlled
panic that so many Gamemasters strive for; that tension that really puts the
fear of God into a player who truly believes he's fighting for his life...
and yet emerges victorious through clear thinking and good die-rolling.

Then again, maybe they're still paranoid over that time they nearly got
slaughtered by Battle Droids because they couldn't punch the broad side of a
barn that day.

-----Original Message-----
From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:57 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Power playing in street fighter??


In a way it is a level, it is the measuring stick street fighters use to
measure each other for commonality. A rank six should be evenly matched
with another rank six, and so on. I agree with you on what you said about
rank, we have some npc's who just don't fight in tourneys because people
refuse to fight them, so they're rank ones who could take a rank six or
seven. My own character is still technically a rank 6 (I think, whatever
21-6 is), but he hasn't had a match in so long, all he does is run around,
train, and get in the way of shadowloo (both accidently and on purpose),
when he goes back to tourney fighting, he's probably gonna go straight for
world warriors (First thing is a rematch with Dee Jay). That having been
said, it's still a matter of starting with experienced characters, it
basically ruins the game. My own character is right now trying to master
his style, it just wouldn't have been the same had I just been handed the
points (also I probably would have wound up with different maneuvers,
priorities change during game play). .. . . . . .
>
>one thing that amazes me about my players is that they are so quick to
point
>to their rank like it was some kind of Level in AD&D or something instead
of
>taking their actual abilities into account. They panic when their Rank 2s
>get jumped by a squad of ten Shock Troopers and forget that they've already
>earned enough XP to put them at Rank 5 if they'd done nothing but
compete...



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