really. The book doesn't even explain what it is. The book jus' says
"Grabs ignore blocks".
-----Original Message----- From: Rinaldo Gambetta
[mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000
8:46 AM To: email@example.com Subject:
[streetfighter] Re: The basic grab case.
Well it´s okay
but is strange, any description about it.
Steve Karstensen wrote:
the basic Grab doesn't have any special effects
-----Original Message----- From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo.gambetta@...]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:30 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: [streetfighter] The basic grab case.
I think about the grab it´s right the Basic grab that one Speed +0
Damage +0 Move 1, it have what efect don´t have description (In my
translated book), cause knockdown? it´s susteinted hold? A description
is needed for this one.
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>> On that subject: if Suplex is faster than Throw, why is Air Throw so much
>> faster than Air Suplex? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>Remember, we're talking about the guys that confuse a knife-hand strike
>with a spear-hand strike ;) ... Which is, BTW, the most annoying logical
>error I've encountered so far in SF:TSG, because I've spent *hours*
>training on that particular technique :)
Or how about the description of Back Breaker: they're *obviously* describing
a Power Bomb! But seriously, shouldn't Air Suplex be faster? Or did they
slow it down to keep Vega from being unstoppable? (It is Vega's move, isn't
> No, if you're going to do Pokemon in Street Fighter,
> the best ones to try are Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee,
> Machop, Machoke, Machamp, (All fighting Pokemon) and
> Charmander (as 90% of it's attacks are all ready in
> the book).
What? No Polywrath, Mankey or Primeape? Ok, maybe not Polywrath.
> Also, with a little tweaking, the TV theme could be
> used as an opening for a Street Fighter campaign's
Hmmm... I never thought about it that way...
> And yes, some days I have WAY too much time on my
> hands. :p
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From: Jade M Prout
Subject: Re: Bulbasaur Debate
Josh Diemert wrote:
>No, if you're going to do Pokemon in Street Fighter, the best ones to try are Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Machop, Machoke, Machamp, (All fighting Pokemon) and Charmander (as 90% of it's attacks are all ready in the book).
>And yes, some days I have WAY too much time on my hands. :p
What's the name of the giant cactus who wears boxing gloves? He cracks me up... or is it she?
>Or how about the description of Back Breaker: they're *obviously*
>describing a Power Bomb! But seriously, shouldn't Air Suplex be faster?
>Or did they slow it down to keep Vega from being unstoppable? (It is
>Vega's move, isn't it?)
Don't worry....Vega's still pretty unstoppable without people hindering his
maneuvers. Addmitedly Air Suplex is listed as alot slower, and 1 less
damadge that air throw, but this is countered by the fact that air suplex
does NOT cost anything. Air throw cost's a will power, so I have the
capacity to toss out suplexes all-day long if ya like.
Looking closer at the move I feel that somewhere along the way the writers
may (MAY) have got A. Suplex. confuesed with Choke throw. It says that
choke throw can be preformed on standing opponents. If we go back to the
true-to-game examples, according to Vega it should be the other way around.
Choke-throw isn't quite as powerful to balance it out a bit. In my games at
least, Vega can Air Suplex grounded opponents.
From: Andy Johnston
Subject: Basic grab
Hehehhee....just what excatly is normal grab, huh? As Steve has pointed out
just about every grab concivable is spoken for, especially ones that have an
For our games, unfortunately, PROFFESSIONAL wrestling has left it's terrible
mark. The players in the games have decided that "Grab" the basic manuver is
'An Atomic Drop'......no knock down, no sustained hold, no lingering effect.
<for those who haven't been poisoned by Pro Wrestling and atomic drop is a
quick lift of the opponent which drops him butt/groin first on your
Isn't the cactus from digimon? Oh god now I know I have too much time on my
<< What's the name of the giant cactus who wears boxing gloves? He cracks me
up... or is it she?
From: Steve Karstensen
Subject: Re: Bulbasaur Debate
You think that's bad, among my weirder inspirations for streetfighting
hybrid teams, I've had:
Rocko (the Jiu-Jitsu wallaby) and Heffer (the Sumo cow with Stunning Belch)
Dagget and Norbert, the Angry Beaver Hybrids ("Muscular Beaver,
Mike, Micky, Davy, and Peter, the Monkey Kung Fu experts (Monkey hybrids
with Musical Accompaniment)
Buster and Bailey, the Furry Flurry (boxing bunny from Monster Rancher and
boxing Kangaroo, natch)
All fights are done except this one, people can´t wait and scream the
names of fighters in the final, bets so many bets.
The agents of Society of Dragon now are making a check up in the arena,
and it´s okay, all things are working well.
The old man and master of Society of Dragon stand up and say:
- This a great honor in realize the final bout, the tradiction of a non
armed combat, I wish good luck and win the most stronger fighter.
Subject: Before the Final Match
Hotaru Seijuro rewound the tape and watched it again. It was no different,
Artemis Steele won just as easily. He had looked for any mistakes he had
made (and spotted several), he had thought about it constantly. He had tried
to predict how it could have been if he had done everything differently.
None of it changed the fact that he had met his better, and lost.
Seijuro took the tape and left the room Rinaldo had let him use. After
returning the tape and thanking Rinaldo for his indulgence, he returned to
his rented room. Hotaru Akodai was waiting for him.
Seijuro bowed low as he greeted the older bunny. "Konnichi wa, Sensei. Did
you come to lecture me on my failure?"
Akodai smiled. "No, young firefly. I have come to congradulate you: you
have earned your seijin."
Seijuro fell silent for a moment before rediscovering his voice. "Sensei,
did you not witness the match, I have been defeated. The samurai-ko I faced
proved that I..." his voice trailed off as he struggled to give voice to his
doubts. "I am not a warrior."
Akodai looked his pupil over for a moment, then without warning, he lashed
out with his staff. The shocked student easily avoided the blow as he
shifted to a fighting stance. The old bunny looked over his student. "That
looks like a warrior's stance to me. Recite the 3rd lesson."
"The 3rd lesson."
"There is no shame in losing an honorable battle."
"Did you fight honorably?"
"Then you have no cause for shame" the older ninja reasoned. "In every
conflict one must triumph, and anotheer must be defeated. There is no shame
in this, it is the way of battle, the way of the world. You have been
defeated before, oi, why does this defeat trouble you more than any of the
Seijuro was silent for longer than he would have liked, he thought of the
match, of his opponent, and of the tournament... the tournament that had
been on his mind so often since he left the island. After several minutes,
Seijuro looked up at his sensei. "Because this defeat means that I am no
longer a contender in the tournament," he painfully said, "it means... it
means that I have failed."
"Is that what hurts you so my student?" came the concerned sensei's reply.
"Never feel that defeat is the end. Even the Shogun was defeated in the
Lady's War. It became to him a source of inspiration, a source of strength.
Remember, your purpose was not to win, but to learn. Not Glory, but Growth.
Losing is simply another test, it is not the end unless you let it consume
Seijuro was silent for a moment as he pondered his sensei's words. "Seijuro,
you need peace of mind," the older bunny's arm motioned to the small shrine
Seijuro had set up. "Only through them can you find it. Meditate on the
events of this day."
"Hai," said Seijuro. "I will meditate until I understand."
For the rest of the afternoon and all through the evening the young Ninja
meditated, the sun set, and was on the verge of rising again before Seijuro
rose. Upon rising he ate the meal of rice and sushi that he had not noticed
being placed near him, and drank cold water. When his stomach fell silent he
took on of the books his Sensei had told him to bring, and a small square of
paper. When he was done he set it before the shrine, and said a prayer to
grant a warrior luck in battles to come.