You can interrupt someone at any point during their action. They can also
abort at any time during *their* action up until the point they've finished
or rolled damage.

If my move rating is ten, and someone interrupts me after I've moved nine
hexes, I can still abort to a Jump and move, say, another five. I
technically haven't finished my move so this is allowed.

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 12:29 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion


Steve wrote:

>>In

addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)

Sigh, and so it begins...
No way! Once you have COMPLETED the FULL movement of Move then you are
through with the Maneuver... you chose NOT to abort it, because the Maneuver
has completed doing everything it could possibly do. You can't Abort
something DURING if it's DONE. This is exactly why the character with the
highest Speed is allowed to wait to interrupt. So you can choose a Maneuver
like Move and then wait to see if that was a good idea, if not, aborting to
a defense that suits you.

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:06 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion

>
>you're trying to give me a migraine, aren't you?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jade M Prout [mailto:twitchboy@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 7:45 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>
>
>"NOW I WRITE: It has always been my understanding that the "1-Willpower per
>turn" rule was supposed to prevent you from Aborting from a Maneuver with a
>Willpower Cost... that you are so focused on and committed to the attack
>that you can't abruptly decide to do something else."
>
>whatever maneuver you abort to becomes your maneuver for that turn. You

are

>considered to never have made the other attack. You aborted it, remember?
>
>"However, until recently I wholeheartedly believed that you could make an
>attack, roll damage, then spend 1 Willpower to Abort to Jump or Block. And
>since this is apparently WRONG (despite what is written on p.139) then

there

>is NO official rule in place to prevent someone from Aborting from a
>Lightning Leg or other Will-fueled Maneuver... After all, if the attack is
>not made, no Cost is paid."
>
>exactly.
>
>"Obviously, people are now talking about the "fact" that Maneuvers with
>bonuses to Move should warrant Willpower expenditure. Why? Every Street
>Fighter in the world has a Maneuver called "Move" which gives them a PLUS
>THREE bonus to their move, and it does NOT require Willpower expenditure."
>
>it also does no damage. I don't mind if Mungo wants to run around the

arena

>twelve hexes at a time every turn. It's if he's getting a twelve-die

attack

>roll at the end of that twelve-hex move that I'm not going to be happy. In
>addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
>movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
>can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)
>
>"Furthermore, anyone with 4 Experience Points can learn to Jump, allowing
>them to hurtle through the air and deliver flying attacks. Isn't a Jumping
>Roundhouse extraordinarily physically demanding? Why not make THAT cost
>Willpower while we're at it? Here's why not: Rolling Attack and Beast Roll
>are UNREALISTIC! Why go out of our minds trying to make a realistic rule

to

>govern a fantasy-based Maneuver?"
>
>...
>
>"But like anything else, it's ultimately up to the Storyteller to make a
>call like that."
>
>Storyteller System games have never stood up well to intense rules

scrutiny.

>If you're looking for hard-and-fast facts spelled out to the letter you're
>in the wrong place.
>
>;)
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If my move rating is ten, and someone interrupts me after I've moved nine
hexes, I can still abort to a Jump and move, say, another five. I
technically haven't finished my move so this is allowed.

exactly. I never argued against that

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion

>
>You can interrupt someone at any point during their action. They can also
>abort at any time during *their* action up until the point they've finished
>or rolled damage.
>
>If my move rating is ten, and someone interrupts me after I've moved nine
>hexes, I can still abort to a Jump and move, say, another five. I
>technically haven't finished my move so this is allowed.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 12:29 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>>>In
>addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
>movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
>can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)
>
>Sigh, and so it begins...
>No way! Once you have COMPLETED the FULL movement of Move then you are
>through with the Maneuver... you chose NOT to abort it, because the

Maneuver

>has completed doing everything it could possibly do. You can't Abort
>something DURING if it's DONE. This is exactly why the character with the
>highest Speed is allowed to wait to interrupt. So you can choose a Maneuver
>like Move and then wait to see if that was a good idea, if not, aborting to
>a defense that suits you.
>
>J. Scott Pittman
>Game Designer, Writer, Artist
>Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
>http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
>"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:06 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>
>
>>
>>you're trying to give me a migraine, aren't you?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jade M Prout [mailto:twitchboy@...]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 7:45 PM
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>>
>>
>>"NOW I WRITE: It has always been my understanding that the "1-Willpower

per

>>turn" rule was supposed to prevent you from Aborting from a Maneuver with

a

>>Willpower Cost... that you are so focused on and committed to the attack
>>that you can't abruptly decide to do something else."
>>
>>whatever maneuver you abort to becomes your maneuver for that turn. You
>are
>>considered to never have made the other attack. You aborted it, remember?
>>
>>"However, until recently I wholeheartedly believed that you could make an
>>attack, roll damage, then spend 1 Willpower to Abort to Jump or Block.

And

>>since this is apparently WRONG (despite what is written on p.139) then
>there
>>is NO official rule in place to prevent someone from Aborting from a
>>Lightning Leg or other Will-fueled Maneuver... After all, if the attack

is

>>not made, no Cost is paid."
>>
>>exactly.
>>
>>"Obviously, people are now talking about the "fact" that Maneuvers with
>>bonuses to Move should warrant Willpower expenditure. Why? Every Street
>>Fighter in the world has a Maneuver called "Move" which gives them a PLUS
>>THREE bonus to their move, and it does NOT require Willpower expenditure."
>>
>>it also does no damage. I don't mind if Mungo wants to run around the
>arena
>>twelve hexes at a time every turn. It's if he's getting a twelve-die
>attack
>>roll at the end of that twelve-hex move that I'm not going to be happy.

In

>>addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
>>movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
>>can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)
>>
>>"Furthermore, anyone with 4 Experience Points can learn to Jump, allowing
>>them to hurtle through the air and deliver flying attacks. Isn't a

Jumping

>>Roundhouse extraordinarily physically demanding? Why not make THAT cost
>>Willpower while we're at it? Here's why not: Rolling Attack and Beast

Roll

>>are UNREALISTIC! Why go out of our minds trying to make a realistic rule
>to
>>govern a fantasy-based Maneuver?"
>>
>>...
>>
>>"But like anything else, it's ultimately up to the Storyteller to make a
>>call like that."
>>
>>Storyteller System games have never stood up well to intense rules
>scrutiny.
>>If you're looking for hard-and-fast facts spelled out to the letter you're
>>in the wrong place.
>>
>>;)
>>
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ack. I just scanned over what I originally wrote. I didn't mean to say
"full alotted movement", I meant to say "close to full alotted movement". I
just meant you could move a fairly obscene distance with a combo of
Move/Abort to Jump.

These nitpicking discussions with Jade are frying my brain...

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:21 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion


If my move rating is ten, and someone interrupts me after I've moved nine
hexes, I can still abort to a Jump and move, say, another five. I
technically haven't finished my move so this is allowed.

exactly. I never argued against that

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion

>
>You can interrupt someone at any point during their action. They can also
>abort at any time during *their* action up until the point they've finished
>or rolled damage.
>
>If my move rating is ten, and someone interrupts me after I've moved nine
>hexes, I can still abort to a Jump and move, say, another five. I
>technically haven't finished my move so this is allowed.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 12:29 PM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>>>In
>addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
>movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
>can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)
>
>Sigh, and so it begins...
>No way! Once you have COMPLETED the FULL movement of Move then you are
>through with the Maneuver... you chose NOT to abort it, because the

Maneuver

>has completed doing everything it could possibly do. You can't Abort
>something DURING if it's DONE. This is exactly why the character with the
>highest Speed is allowed to wait to interrupt. So you can choose a Maneuver
>like Move and then wait to see if that was a good idea, if not, aborting to
>a defense that suits you.
>
>J. Scott Pittman
>Game Designer, Writer, Artist
>Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
>http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
>"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:06 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>
>
>>
>>you're trying to give me a migraine, aren't you?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jade M Prout [mailto:twitchboy@...]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 7:45 PM
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion
>>
>>
>>"NOW I WRITE: It has always been my understanding that the "1-Willpower

per

>>turn" rule was supposed to prevent you from Aborting from a Maneuver with

a

>>Willpower Cost... that you are so focused on and committed to the attack
>>that you can't abruptly decide to do something else."
>>
>>whatever maneuver you abort to becomes your maneuver for that turn. You
>are
>>considered to never have made the other attack. You aborted it, remember?
>>
>>"However, until recently I wholeheartedly believed that you could make an
>>attack, roll damage, then spend 1 Willpower to Abort to Jump or Block.

And

>>since this is apparently WRONG (despite what is written on p.139) then
>there
>>is NO official rule in place to prevent someone from Aborting from a
>>Lightning Leg or other Will-fueled Maneuver... After all, if the attack

is

>>not made, no Cost is paid."
>>
>>exactly.
>>
>>"Obviously, people are now talking about the "fact" that Maneuvers with
>>bonuses to Move should warrant Willpower expenditure. Why? Every Street
>>Fighter in the world has a Maneuver called "Move" which gives them a PLUS
>>THREE bonus to their move, and it does NOT require Willpower expenditure."
>>
>>it also does no damage. I don't mind if Mungo wants to run around the
>arena
>>twelve hexes at a time every turn. It's if he's getting a twelve-die
>attack
>>roll at the end of that twelve-hex move that I'm not going to be happy.

In

>>addition, did you know that you can play a Move, move your full allotted
>>movement, Abort to a Jump, then move your Jump's allotted movement? You
>>can. (that'll be good for another week's worth of debate...)
>>
>>"Furthermore, anyone with 4 Experience Points can learn to Jump, allowing
>>them to hurtle through the air and deliver flying attacks. Isn't a

Jumping

>>Roundhouse extraordinarily physically demanding? Why not make THAT cost
>>Willpower while we're at it? Here's why not: Rolling Attack and Beast

Roll

>>are UNREALISTIC! Why go out of our minds trying to make a realistic rule
>to
>>govern a fantasy-based Maneuver?"
>>
>>...
>>
>>"But like anything else, it's ultimately up to the Storyteller to make a
>>call like that."
>>
>>Storyteller System games have never stood up well to intense rules
>scrutiny.
>>If you're looking for hard-and-fast facts spelled out to the letter you're
>>in the wrong place.
>>
>>;)
>>
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Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] POLL: Offical Rule Vote

>The following rules have been nominated to become Offical Street Fighter

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I vote to solve abort manuvers case. Regards Rinaldo Gambetta :)

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In a message dated 2/9/2000 9:30:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sfrpg@... writes:

<< Here's two generic examples of a fighter's combos:
*Jab TO Fierce
*Fierce TO Fireball (dizzy)

Now this situation:
Move1: Jab
Move2: Fierce (+2 to speed)
Move3: Fireball (+2 to speed,dizzy????)

This is problem. Peharps the most correct was:
Move1: Jab
Move2: Fierce (+2 to speed)
Move3: Fierce
Move4: Fireball (+2 to speed, dizzy)
_____________________________________________________________ >>
This one is right
Move1: Jab
Move2: Fierce (+2 to speed)
Move3: Fierce
Move4: Fireball (+2 to speed, dizzy)

I have that much experience!!! Damn!!! I never realized it! okay I'll have
to think about this one.

No not yet. Where should I get it from.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:01:58 -0800
>
>To Yu Ominae:
>Do you have the Street fighter rulebook?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yu Ominae <yuominae@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 5:48 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>
>
> >Sure I'll Send my character,But at the risk of sounding kinda silly what
> >freebie points, I'm new to this. Sorry
> >
> >
> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
> >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:28:22 -0800
> >>
> >>sure thing, just send in a character, make sure to tell me how you used
> >>your
> >>freebie points
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Yu Ominae <yuominae@...>
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2036 11:13 PM
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
> >>
> >>
> >> >Can I get into this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
> >> >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:13:04 -0800
> >> >>
> >> >>Dark Streets, Chapter Three, turn 1
> >> >>
> >> >>Eric looks at the others, then to the crow on his shoulder, then up
>into
> >> >>the
> >> >>sky. "I have tasted death once. Its not that good. I suggest we go in
> >> >>through
> >> >>the back. If you all decide differently, I'll go with you."
> >> >>again, I send my crow on ahead, just a bit, and slowly follow it
> >> >>
> >> >>Sago picks up the radio and answers in a tired, scratchy voice,
>"Yeah,
> >>uh,
> >> >>nothing new to report. Um... I may have to leave early, I, uh, I
>think
> >> >>I'm coming down with something."
> >> >>
> >> >>Sammi quickly stifled a giggle when Sago answered.
> >> >>"Yeah," she whispered, "a case of 'Boot to the Head'
> >> >>syndrome." She waited until Sago put the radio back
> >> >>down and looked at him. "Look, I'm sorry for turning
> >> >>'dictator' back there on the roof, but these kids are
> >> >>in trouble, and we're the only ones who can help. It
> >> >>seemed like we were just going to stand there arguing
> >> >>all night on how to get in. I had to do something."
> >> >>Sammi began rubbing her left arm, then reached down
> >> >>and searched the guard.
> >> >>OOC: You said in the description that the guard had
> >> >>half a pack of smokes. Sammi's gonna look for that,
> >> >>and a lighter or pack of matches. Might come in handy
> >> >>inside. She's also gonna snag the goggles, if they're
> >> >>still intact. (I've gotta hunch...)
> >> >>I snagged 'em in case they're polarized,
> >> >>or IR or something. Scott, Sammi does try on the
> >> >>goggles to see if her view of the world is
> >> >>'different'; if not, she tosses them.
> >> >>
> >> >>As she approached the old warehouse, she noticed some commotion, a
>quick
> >> >>fight and then some people trying to get into the place. They sure
> >>didn't
> >> >>look like the police, but the more important thing was they didn't
>look
> >> >>like
> >> >>friends of Shark.
> >> >>------- >>
> >> >>IC: Sabrina's grib on the baton tightened. It was tempting to think
> >>that
> >> >>this would be like the old days, but the cold cut shattered her
> >>temptation.
> >> >>The old days were gone, and there was no hope of anything but revenge
> >>now.
> >> >>She moved, darting from one shadow to another while watching for any
> >>other
> >> >>guards. The civilians may be against her enemy, but she didn't have
>to
> >> >>show
> >> >>herself. Not until she knew more about them. His games start to to
>die
> >> >>here, with Shark.
> >> >>"Winter's coming B******." The threat was almost loud enough to be a
> >> >>whisper.
> >> >>OOC: Sabrina will sneak to the warehouse while watching for guards.
> >> >>____________________
> >> >>
> >> >> The walkie talkie hissed more static for a few seconds. "OK, man,
>if
> >>you
> >> >>need to. Hope you start feeling better. I'll cover for you tonight,
>but
> >> >>you've got to take my shift Saturday."
> >> >>"OK", Sago replied, trying his best to copy the same voice he used,
>and
> >> >>thankful for the static on the line.
> >> >> Sammi tried on the goggles. They looked normal, like a pair of
>large
> >> >>sunglasses, but when placing them across her eyes, she could tell
>that
> >>they
> >> >>were some type of special electronic equipment. Tiny messages flashed
>in
> >> >>the
> >> >>upper left of them, and as she looked at things, they seemed to be
> >>scanned
> >> >>as if connected to a computer. Readouts of the objects appeared,
> >>describing
> >> >>them in some detail. Looking at a nearby trashcan gave the readout:
> >> >>
> >> >>METAL CONTAINER; CONTENTS UNKNOWN
> >> >>
> >> >>looking again at Sago, the readout printed in bright letters:
> >> >>
> >> >>UNKNOWN HUMAN MALE; GIVE WARNING OR DETAIN
> >> >>
> >> >> Sammi also noticed at the bottom of the glasses were smaller
> >>lettering
> >> >>that stated LIGHT SOURCE NORMAL. She decided to keep the goggles.
> >> >> Ryuu looked at Sago and Sammi, very interested in what was going
>on.
> >>His
> >> >>attention then went to Eric, who looked to be doing something of
> >>interest.
> >> >> Eric stretched out his arm, letting the crow that rested there
>fly.
> >>Then
> >> >>as Sago placed his card into the pass slot on the door, the bird
>quickly
> >> >>flew into the room beyond.
> >> >> A few seconds passed, and the bird returned and chirped a few
>sounds
> >>to
> >> >>Eric. "The interior is empoty except for two "silver men", whispered
> >>Eric.
> >> >> "Silver men? What the heck does that mean?" asked Sammi.
> >> >> Eric shrugged, looking at Sago, who looked back at Eric with the
> >>exact
> >> >>same glace of unknowing.
> >> >> "One way to find out, said Sago, and he slipped into the door as
> >>quietly
> >> >>as possible.
> >> >>-------
> >> >> Once inside, Eric could see that this was some sort of storage
>room,
> >> >>with
> >> >>lots of boxes and equipment that might be found in a mad scientist's
> >>lab,
> >> >>Bottles of strage-colored liquid, tubes running all over the place,
>and
> >> >>wires with little streams of electricity running between them. On one
> >>shelf
> >> >>he noticed two book ends with tiny metal men as the carvings that
>held
> >>each
> >> >>side.
> >> >> "Just some book ends. Come on in." Sago said with releif.
> >> >> The rest of the team entered, Eric first, then Ryuu, then Sammi,
>who
> >>was
> >> >>dragging the unconcious guard behind her. She dropped him on the
>floor
> >> >>behind some boxes.
> >> >> Sago started down the hallway that led to Shark, he thought.
> >>Suddenly,
> >> >>however, he felt a terrible pain sweep across his back, as something
> >> >>knocked
> >> >>him to the floor.
> >> >> Sammi saw the laser strike into Sago, knocking his off his feet.
>She
> >> >>diddn't know how badly he was hurt. Looking in the direction of where
> >>the
> >> >>blast came from, she saw a gigantic robot stepping from some of the
> >> >>machinery on the wall. The robot was perfectly camoflauged within. It
> >>had
> >> >>been standing there all along, almost impossible to see. It was
>filled
> >>with
> >> >>flashing lights, and made an odd WHIRR sound as it moved. It's feet
>made
> >>a
> >> >>rather deep CLOMP sound as it stepped foward, it's head shifting back
> >>and
> >> >>fourth to see the other people in the room.
> >> >> "You are unauthorized in this area." it said in a hollow,
>electronic
> >> >>voice. "Drop your weapons and surrender so that you may be detained
>for
> >> >>questioning."
> >> >> OK, Sammi thought. One giant robot and Eric and her left (and
>Ryuu,
> >>who
> >> >>she would have to look out for, he was just a kid). They might be
>able
> >>to
> >> >>take this thing, but it would be loud....
> >> >> Eric stood silently, thinking of what to do next. The thing was
>big,
> >> >>really big. But just mabye...
> >> >> Then the second robot appeared.
> >> >>-------
> >> >> Sabrina had just slid into the room. She wondered if the robots
> >>noticed
> >> >>her as well, but she was hidden near the fallen guard, and they might
> >>not
> >> >>sense her as seperate from him.
> >> >>-------
> >> >> The world was a blurr as the gooey liquid drained from around him.
> >>But
> >> >>who
> >> >>was he? He appeared to be surrounded by all kinds of machinery, with
> >> >>strange
> >> >>wires connected to his chest and head with tiny bits of surgical
>tape.
> >>The
> >> >>wires were not connected to him, but prehaps detecting his heartbeat,
> >> >>pulse,
> >> >>etc.
> >> >> "Where am I?" He asked.
> >> >> "You are in my lab. I have awakened you." The pleasent man said.
>He
> >> >>stood
> >> >>before the awakened man, very nicely dressed, but with a scientists
>garb
> >> >>on,
> >> >>or prehaps it was the gown of a doctor.
> >> >> "Who are you?"
> >> >> "My name is Donavan Sharke, but my friends call me Shark." The
> >> >>scientist/doctor replied. "I am most pleased to see you are doing
>well.
> >>You
> >> >>may feel a bit weak, it's kind of normal, I should think. Not that
>there
> >>is
> >> >>anything to compare to."
> >> >> "Who am I?"
> >> >> "Oh, yes, of course, heh, excuse me. You may call yourself Jean
>Paul,
> >>a
> >> >>victorian fellow. Here, get dressed." Shark passed Jean Paul his
> >>clothes,
> >> >>some cigars and matches, a wallet with some money, a heavy-weighted
> >>cane,
> >>a
> >> >>hat, a gold ring, a watch, and a pocket sized bible.
> >> >> "I bet you're full of questions, eh? What you're doing here, where
> >>you
> >> >>came from, all of that. Not to worry, my friend, you are safe and I
>have
> >> >>all
> >> >>of your answers."
> >> >> Jean looked around. There were more containers like the one he had
> >>come
> >> >>from, filled with a clear liquid, and containing what appeared to be
> >> >>children.
> >> >> "Who are those children, and why are they in these tanks!?" Jean
>knew
> >> >>something was wrong here, very wrong.
> >> >> "Please, don't be alarmed, my friend, they are simply -"
> >> >> There was a buzzing noise from Shark's communicator, and he
>quickly
> >> >>answered it. "What is it?"
> >> >> "Miriganka 12 here sir. Intruder in storage room 4, awaiting
>further
> >> >>orders."
> >> >>---------
> >> >>Storyteller to players:
> >> >> This turn ends chapter two. The following exp awards apply:
> >> >> 1 point: automatic
> >> >> 1 point: consistancy
> >> >>
> >> >>Honor awards:
> >> >> 1 point of temporary Honor to Sago for being harmed while
>protecting
> >>an
> >> >>innocent
> >> >>
> >> >>Special Notes:
> >> >> Sago has taken 1 Health level of damage from a glacing laser
>strike
> >>to
> >> >>his
> >> >>back. He is getting off the floor, and is concidered Knocked Down for
> >> >>purposes of his next action.
> >> >>
> >> >>J. Scott Pittman
> >> >>
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Again, common sense must prevail. A vertical rolling attack, even if it's
not used to hit anyone, still gives the user (per it's description) a higher
jump than normal (4 ft) and thus even if used (per the description) to jump
over a fence or chasm would incur the willpower cost. Also, while it's true
a regular move grants +3, a regular jump does not. Aerial attacks that move
further than atheltics should definitely incur the cost regardless of whether
damage was rolled or not, because you are doing something you cannot do with
a normal jump maneuver.

In a message dated 2/9/00 8:46:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
twitchboy@... writes:
<< Obviously, people are now talking about the "fact" that Maneuvers with
bonuses to Move should warrant Willpower expenditure. Why? Every Street
Fighter in the world has a Maneuver called "Move" which gives them a PLUS
THREE bonus to their move, and it does NOT require Willpower expenditure. >>

I agree, as long as the maneuver was played in the last turn the combo takes
effect (barring our homemade knockdown-kills-combo rule). So the first
example is fine. Hell, even if you abort to a block the next turn still
grants you the speed bonus.

that's a real good point! because only one of the combo's is dizzy, I'd say
the middle fierce in the first maneuver only gets one bonus: +2 speed as
part of previous combo or add damage to dizzy, but possibly not
both(storyteller call ultimately) If both were dizzy combos it wouldn't be
an issue

I always played you can't abort to a jump if you've moved, and it's always
worked fine. Never had a player complain.

Hmmm good luck, the Street Fighter game is no longer in print. You MIGHT
find one out there on the net for sale, but I wouldn't want to begin the
search! Anybody want to sell theirs?

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

-----Original Message-----
From: Yu Ominae <yuominae@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:31 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1

>No not yet. Where should I get it from.
>
>
>>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:01:58 -0800
>>
>>To Yu Ominae:
>>Do you have the Street fighter rulebook?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Yu Ominae <yuominae@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 5:48 PM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>>
>>
>> >Sure I'll Send my character,But at the risk of sounding kinda silly what
>> >freebie points, I'm new to this. Sorry
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>> >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:28:22 -0800
>> >>
>> >>sure thing, just send in a character, make sure to tell me how you used
>> >>your
>> >>freebie points
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Yu Ominae <yuominae@...>
>> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> >>Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2036 11:13 PM
>> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Can I get into this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>> >> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> >> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>> >> >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:13:04 -0800
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Dark Streets, Chapter Three, turn 1
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Eric looks at the others, then to the crow on his shoulder, then up
>>into
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>sky. "I have tasted death once. Its not that good. I suggest we go

in

>> >> >>through
>> >> >>the back. If you all decide differently, I'll go with you."
>> >> >>again, I send my crow on ahead, just a bit, and slowly follow it
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sago picks up the radio and answers in a tired, scratchy voice,
>>"Yeah,
>> >>uh,
>> >> >>nothing new to report. Um... I may have to leave early, I, uh, I
>>think
>> >> >>I'm coming down with something."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Sammi quickly stifled a giggle when Sago answered.
>> >> >>"Yeah," she whispered, "a case of 'Boot to the Head'
>> >> >>syndrome." She waited until Sago put the radio back
>> >> >>down and looked at him. "Look, I'm sorry for turning
>> >> >>'dictator' back there on the roof, but these kids are
>> >> >>in trouble, and we're the only ones who can help. It
>> >> >>seemed like we were just going to stand there arguing
>> >> >>all night on how to get in. I had to do something."
>> >> >>Sammi began rubbing her left arm, then reached down
>> >> >>and searched the guard.
>> >> >>OOC: You said in the description that the guard had
>> >> >>half a pack of smokes. Sammi's gonna look for that,
>> >> >>and a lighter or pack of matches. Might come in handy
>> >> >>inside. She's also gonna snag the goggles, if they're
>> >> >>still intact. (I've gotta hunch...)
>> >> >>I snagged 'em in case they're polarized,
>> >> >>or IR or something. Scott, Sammi does try on the
>> >> >>goggles to see if her view of the world is
>> >> >>'different'; if not, she tosses them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>As she approached the old warehouse, she noticed some commotion, a
>>quick
>> >> >>fight and then some people trying to get into the place. They sure
>> >>didn't
>> >> >>look like the police, but the more important thing was they didn't
>>look
>> >> >>like
>> >> >>friends of Shark.
>> >> >>------- >>
>> >> >>IC: Sabrina's grib on the baton tightened. It was tempting to think
>> >>that
>> >> >>this would be like the old days, but the cold cut shattered her
>> >>temptation.
>> >> >>The old days were gone, and there was no hope of anything but

revenge

>> >>now.
>> >> >>She moved, darting from one shadow to another while watching for any
>> >>other
>> >> >>guards. The civilians may be against her enemy, but she didn't have
>>to
>> >> >>show
>> >> >>herself. Not until she knew more about them. His games start to to
>>die
>> >> >>here, with Shark.
>> >> >>"Winter's coming B******." The threat was almost loud enough to be

a

>> >> >>whisper.
>> >> >>OOC: Sabrina will sneak to the warehouse while watching for guards.
>> >> >>____________________
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The walkie talkie hissed more static for a few seconds. "OK, man,
>>if
>> >>you
>> >> >>need to. Hope you start feeling better. I'll cover for you tonight,
>>but
>> >> >>you've got to take my shift Saturday."
>> >> >>"OK", Sago replied, trying his best to copy the same voice he used,
>>and
>> >> >>thankful for the static on the line.
>> >> >> Sammi tried on the goggles. They looked normal, like a pair of
>>large
>> >> >>sunglasses, but when placing them across her eyes, she could tell
>>that
>> >>they
>> >> >>were some type of special electronic equipment. Tiny messages

flashed

>>in
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>upper left of them, and as she looked at things, they seemed to be
>> >>scanned
>> >> >>as if connected to a computer. Readouts of the objects appeared,
>> >>describing
>> >> >>them in some detail. Looking at a nearby trashcan gave the readout:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>METAL CONTAINER; CONTENTS UNKNOWN
>> >> >>
>> >> >>looking again at Sago, the readout printed in bright letters:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>UNKNOWN HUMAN MALE; GIVE WARNING OR DETAIN
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sammi also noticed at the bottom of the glasses were smaller
>> >>lettering
>> >> >>that stated LIGHT SOURCE NORMAL. She decided to keep the goggles.
>> >> >> Ryuu looked at Sago and Sammi, very interested in what was going
>>on.
>> >>His
>> >> >>attention then went to Eric, who looked to be doing something of
>> >>interest.
>> >> >> Eric stretched out his arm, letting the crow that rested there
>>fly.
>> >>Then
>> >> >>as Sago placed his card into the pass slot on the door, the bird
>>quickly
>> >> >>flew into the room beyond.
>> >> >> A few seconds passed, and the bird returned and chirped a few
>>sounds
>> >>to
>> >> >>Eric. "The interior is empoty except for two "silver men", whispered
>> >>Eric.
>> >> >> "Silver men? What the heck does that mean?" asked Sammi.
>> >> >> Eric shrugged, looking at Sago, who looked back at Eric with the
>> >>exact
>> >> >>same glace of unknowing.
>> >> >> "One way to find out, said Sago, and he slipped into the door as
>> >>quietly
>> >> >>as possible.
>> >> >>-------
>> >> >> Once inside, Eric could see that this was some sort of storage
>>room,
>> >> >>with
>> >> >>lots of boxes and equipment that might be found in a mad scientist's
>> >>lab,
>> >> >>Bottles of strage-colored liquid, tubes running all over the place,
>>and
>> >> >>wires with little streams of electricity running between them. On

one

>> >>shelf
>> >> >>he noticed two book ends with tiny metal men as the carvings that
>>held
>> >>each
>> >> >>side.
>> >> >> "Just some book ends. Come on in." Sago said with releif.
>> >> >> The rest of the team entered, Eric first, then Ryuu, then Sammi,
>>who
>> >>was
>> >> >>dragging the unconcious guard behind her. She dropped him on the
>>floor
>> >> >>behind some boxes.
>> >> >> Sago started down the hallway that led to Shark, he thought.
>> >>Suddenly,
>> >> >>however, he felt a terrible pain sweep across his back, as something
>> >> >>knocked
>> >> >>him to the floor.
>> >> >> Sammi saw the laser strike into Sago, knocking his off his feet.
>>She
>> >> >>diddn't know how badly he was hurt. Looking in the direction of

where

>> >>the
>> >> >>blast came from, she saw a gigantic robot stepping from some of the
>> >> >>machinery on the wall. The robot was perfectly camoflauged within.

It

>> >>had
>> >> >>been standing there all along, almost impossible to see. It was
>>filled
>> >>with
>> >> >>flashing lights, and made an odd WHIRR sound as it moved. It's feet
>>made
>> >>a
>> >> >>rather deep CLOMP sound as it stepped foward, it's head shifting

back

>> >>and
>> >> >>fourth to see the other people in the room.
>> >> >> "You are unauthorized in this area." it said in a hollow,
>>electronic
>> >> >>voice. "Drop your weapons and surrender so that you may be detained
>>for
>> >> >>questioning."
>> >> >> OK, Sammi thought. One giant robot and Eric and her left (and
>>Ryuu,
>> >>who
>> >> >>she would have to look out for, he was just a kid). They might be
>>able
>> >>to
>> >> >>take this thing, but it would be loud....
>> >> >> Eric stood silently, thinking of what to do next. The thing was
>>big,
>> >> >>really big. But just mabye...
>> >> >> Then the second robot appeared.
>> >> >>-------
>> >> >> Sabrina had just slid into the room. She wondered if the robots
>> >>noticed
>> >> >>her as well, but she was hidden near the fallen guard, and they

might

>> >>not
>> >> >>sense her as seperate from him.
>> >> >>-------
>> >> >> The world was a blurr as the gooey liquid drained from around

him.

>> >>But
>> >> >>who
>> >> >>was he? He appeared to be surrounded by all kinds of machinery, with
>> >> >>strange
>> >> >>wires connected to his chest and head with tiny bits of surgical
>>tape.
>> >>The
>> >> >>wires were not connected to him, but prehaps detecting his

heartbeat,

>> >> >>pulse,
>> >> >>etc.
>> >> >> "Where am I?" He asked.
>> >> >> "You are in my lab. I have awakened you." The pleasent man said.
>>He
>> >> >>stood
>> >> >>before the awakened man, very nicely dressed, but with a scientists
>>garb
>> >> >>on,
>> >> >>or prehaps it was the gown of a doctor.
>> >> >> "Who are you?"
>> >> >> "My name is Donavan Sharke, but my friends call me Shark." The
>> >> >>scientist/doctor replied. "I am most pleased to see you are doing
>>well.
>> >>You
>> >> >>may feel a bit weak, it's kind of normal, I should think. Not that
>>there
>> >>is
>> >> >>anything to compare to."
>> >> >> "Who am I?"
>> >> >> "Oh, yes, of course, heh, excuse me. You may call yourself Jean
>>Paul,
>> >>a
>> >> >>victorian fellow. Here, get dressed." Shark passed Jean Paul his
>> >>clothes,
>> >> >>some cigars and matches, a wallet with some money, a heavy-weighted
>> >>cane,
>> >>a
>> >> >>hat, a gold ring, a watch, and a pocket sized bible.
>> >> >> "I bet you're full of questions, eh? What you're doing here,

where

>> >>you
>> >> >>came from, all of that. Not to worry, my friend, you are safe and I
>>have
>> >> >>all
>> >> >>of your answers."
>> >> >> Jean looked around. There were more containers like the one he

had

>> >>come
>> >> >>from, filled with a clear liquid, and containing what appeared to be
>> >> >>children.
>> >> >> "Who are those children, and why are they in these tanks!?" Jean
>>knew
>> >> >>something was wrong here, very wrong.
>> >> >> "Please, don't be alarmed, my friend, they are simply -"
>> >> >> There was a buzzing noise from Shark's communicator, and he
>>quickly
>> >> >>answered it. "What is it?"
>> >> >> "Miriganka 12 here sir. Intruder in storage room 4, awaiting
>>further
>> >> >>orders."
>> >> >>---------
>> >> >>Storyteller to players:
>> >> >> This turn ends chapter two. The following exp awards apply:
>> >> >> 1 point: automatic
>> >> >> 1 point: consistancy
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Honor awards:
>> >> >> 1 point of temporary Honor to Sago for being harmed while
>>protecting
>> >>an
>> >> >>innocent
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Special Notes:
>> >> >> Sago has taken 1 Health level of damage from a glacing laser
>>strike
>> >>to
>> >> >>his
>> >> >>back. He is getting off the floor, and is concidered Knocked Down

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Chapter 3, Turn 2 (recap of responses)
Remember, when your exp % reaches 100, you gain a point of exp for
role-playing)

Sago:
One of the joys of being a sawed-off runt is that size doesn't impress
you. When everything and everyone is bigger than you, it all becomes a
matter of degree. I push myself upright and do a jumping roundhouse at
Mr. Metal. (role-playing bonus: 25%, nice use of thoughts instead of words)
Sammi:
Sammi froze for a moment when the two robots appeared.
Fighting humans was one thing, and she could deal with
Ryuu's 'unique' appearance since she loved cats. But
fighting a pair of metal monstrosities like
those...she silently wished that Sago's joke about
"Magical Wrestler Pretty Sammi" was real, so she'd
have some means of fighting back. Cursing under her
breath, she grabbed Ryuu and dove behind a nearby
table, scrambling for cover. (Role-playing bonus: 35%, liked the fact that
she is protective of Ryuu, consistant with previous turns)
Ryuu
Ryuu cocked his head to the side as he stared up at the towering robots.
They looked silly, not like the Aesti Valis in Nadesico. He was about to
go closer to get a better look when an arm wrapped around his waist. He
let out a startled yelp as he was pulled off his feet and the room spun for
a moment.
Tucking himself into into a ball, Ryuu rolled with the impact when he
landed. Looking around, he saw that he was behind some cover and Sammi was
nearby. Crawling over he whispered "Sammi-san? What do we do now?"
(role-playing bonus 35%, good job acting as a kid)
Jean Paul:
*this sign means what Jean Paul is talking the other words are only actions
or
thoughts.
First step: get dressed and recover equipament.
Second step: Begin conversation.
*Jean Paul: Well, it´s a weird thought but it that kids stucked in glass
containers remember me that M.Shelley book Frankstein...
*Jean Paul: Good lord, this room is amazing look all these strange things
but,
why I can´t remeber nothing
*Jean Paul: Your name is Donavan right, I see you´re busy at this moment but
why that conteirners do? It´s a new medical treatment to help that
childrens? I
remember in my city that dammit and bad people making kids working in the
factories for hours without care and minimal condictions.
Looking and heard the noise of doctor radio he appears surprise and litle
scared *Jean Paul: What is that litle box? And for the great maker that
thing
can speak? This place is more than I can imagine, say me doctor what happen
why
the things change so much?
Jean Paul walking around room trying to see the size of it and what he can
see
and must important understand, other topic Jean Paul try to heard the
conversation of Doctor and discover the subject.
Jean Paul pick a cigar and use a matche from matches box and start to smoke
it,
now he´s looking for the all things with words and try to read it, maybe he
understand a lilte better, put the hat and take the cane and hold it with
left
hand and put the bible at his overcoat pocket.
I wait for doctor response or better the talking box info (If I heard it
better). :) Good start for me.
(role-playing bonus 40%, can't ask for much more than that list of thoughts
and ideas)
Eric:
Jumping Roundhouse at one, wall spring off of it, and same on the second
(role-playing bonus 0%, good action, but what's Eric thinking or saying? How
is he pulling off that jumping roundhouse? Does he look like he's mad or
concentrating or having a good time?)
Sabrina:
This matchstick won't do anything against those machines, Sabrina thought as
she slid the baton into her belt. Fortunaty Sabrina had something for
emergencies. She coldly drew her gun.
(Liked the descriptive wording. Role playing bonus 25%)

Chapter 3, Turn 2

Sago's winced in pain, but he didn't think the blast had hit him directly.
He was easily able to pull himself up. The machine-guards didn't have thier
weapons pointed in his direction. Leaping up, he sprang into action, taking
a few steps and leaping into the air. The world around him seemed to become
a cascade of colors as he positioned his body into a kicking form, smashing
his foot down onto the closest robot's chest.
(ago rolls for damage on his Roundhouse Kick: 11 dice, minus the robot's
Stamina. Roll is three for damage)
Sago's well-placed kick made a CLANG sound, and he landed squarely on the
floor. The robot staggered back, but didn't seem that much worse for the
wear. Sago swallowed. "Uh oh."
A similar sound came from the other robot's area, and Eric could be seen
doing a similar maneuver to the second foe, with similar results. (Eric
rolls damage - Stamina, result of 2 damage for his Jumping Roundhouse Kick)
Sammi grabbed Ryuu as he was in mid-roll and landed behind the nearest
table, hoping to keep the kid from danger. "Kid, are you OK? These things
are mean, stay down!" Sammi peered over the edge just in time to see Sago
and Eric striking the robots with little effect. She had better think of
something, and think of it quick if they were to survive.
The large androids raised thier arms, both in the same fashion and at the
same speed. From their palms, a bright red ray flashed. (damage roll-Stamina
for Sago, roll 0 damage and a botch, damage roll-Stamina for Eric, roll 3
damage, but see below).
The hand and it's continuous ray followed Sago as he moved to dodge. Eric,
however was in the sights of the metal man he faced. The arm reached foward,
the electronic eye of the guardian placing perfectly on Eric's forehead.
Leaping past Eric, the first red ray from Sago's attacker suddenly ripped
into the arm of the second robot, cutting it cleanly off of it's body.
Sago's foe stopped his attack as the arm of his "partner" fell to the
ground.
(Eric does not take damage as the Sago's attacker's botch stops it's
attack)
Not bad, Sammi thought, but the second robot, now missing it's arm, didn't
seem to be stopping it's attck, but moving to grab Eric now. But what could
she do?
Ryuu watched in amazement. His ears twitched as he heard something coming
down the hall. Another robot? he wondered. He stayed close to Sammi,
wondering what she would do next. Should he try to fight too? He wondered
what is parents would say, and what his grandfather would say. His parents
would no doubt be furious, but his grandfather always seemed to be more
willing to let Ryuu get into trouble, as if he knew something about Ryuu
that he didn't...

"... and my name is Jean Paul?"
"Yes, as i said. Really, I know you have lots of questions, but something
is going on here and I need to take care of it now." Donovan said rather
quickly, as he began to move away from the room and down the hallway to the
other, noisy area.
"But sir, I really hate to think that I bother you with all of these
strange questions, and I must admit I feel rather foolish asking some of
them, but i don't seem to be able to remember many things, and this
Frankenstein-looking laboratory is the last place I would imagine being -
not that your work is in any way similar to that, of course, I would never
insult a man of science - but nonethless, these children, are they going
through some kind of medical treat -"
Jean Paul's doctor did not seem to be interested in staying in the room,
much less hearing his questions, at least not right now. he seemed
interested in Jean Paul, even facinated by him, but at the same time he was
also rather preoccupied.
Jean paul gathered his things and went with Donovan to the hallway.
Donovan Raised his tiny box to his mouth. "The intruders are attacking! Kill
them!" he then reached over to a nearby computer on the wall, punched in
some kind of code, and began to board a tiny boat as a door opened up to the
river-side of the building. "Come with me, jean Paul, and I'll answer your
questions."

Sabrina Took her gun and aimed carefully at the robot that still had both
it's arms. At the moment, the team seemed to be doing fair against thier
opponents, but one wrong move and she would fire. But if she could wait, and
not reveal her presence, that would be very god, at least until she knew
more about what was going on here.
Suddenly, down the hall, she saw Donovan Shark slip out and onto a boat,
but he was now out of view, but obviously still talking to a man just
outside the doorway. He was getting away, but if Sabrina was to go after
him, she would give herself away...

Storyteller to players: Any new plans? Change of Plans?

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

In a message dated 2/11/00 1:02:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
joespitt@... writes:

<< Not bad, Sammi thought, but the second robot, now missing it's arm, didn't
seem to be stopping it's attck, but moving to grab Eric now. But what could
she do? >>
Grinning evily, Eric spins into his double hit-kick, starting his combo.
'This should be fun! Somethign that will actually be a CHALLENGE!' he thinks
to himself.

Jean Paul:
*this sign means what Jean Paul is talking the other words are only actions
or thoughts.
First step: get dressed and recover equipament.
Second step: Begin conversation.
*Jean Paul: Well, it´s a weird thought but it that kids stucked in glass
containers remember me that M.Shelley book Frankstein...
*Jean Paul: Good lord, this room is amazing look all these strange things
but, why I can´t remeber nothing
*Jean Paul: Your name is Donavan right, I see you´re busy at this moment but
why that conteirners do? It´s a new medical treatment to help that
childrens? I remember in my city that dammit and bad people making kids working
in the
factories for hours without care and minimal condictions.
Looking and heard the noise of doctor radio he appears surprise and litle
scared *Jean Paul: What is that litle box? And for the great maker that
thing can speak? This place is more than I can imagine, say me doctor what
happen
why the things change so much?
Jean Paul walking around room trying to see the size of it and what he can
see and must important understand, other topic Jean Paul try to heard the
conversation of Doctor and discover the subject.
Jean Paul pick a cigar and use a matche from matches box and start to smoke
it, now he´s looking for the all things with words and try to read it, maybe he
understand a lilte better, put the hat and take the cane and hold it with
left hand and put the bible at his overcoat pocket.
I wait for doctor response or better the talking box info (If I heard it
better). :) Good start for me.
(role-playing bonus 40%, can't ask for much more than that list of thoughts
and ideas)

Well it appears good to me this start about points how much I have at this
moment?
I count 2 exp point at this moment is right? I write it with character. But well
it´s time for some action.

"... and my name is Jean Paul?"
"Yes, as i said. Really, I know you have lots of questions, but something
is going on here and I need to take care of it now." Donovan said rather
quickly, as he began to move away from the room and down the hallway to the
other, noisy area.
"But sir, I really hate to think that I bother you with all of these
strange questions, and I must admit I feel rather foolish asking some of
them, but i don't seem to be able to remember many things, and this
Frankenstein-looking laboratory is the last place I would imagine being -
not that your work is in any way similar to that, of course, I would never
insult a man of science - but nonethless, these children, are they going
through some kind of medical treat -"
Jean Paul's doctor did not seem to be interested in staying in the room,
much less hearing his questions, at least not right now. he seemed
interested in Jean Paul, even facinated by him, but at the same time he was
also rather preoccupied.
Jean paul gathered his things and went with Donovan to the hallway.
Donovan Raised his tiny box to his mouth. "The intruders are attacking! Kill
them!" he then reached over to a nearby computer on the wall, punched in
some kind of code, and began to board a tiny boat as a door opened up to the
river-side of the building. "Come with me, jean Paul, and I'll answer your
questions."

*Means Jean Paul speak
#Means Jean Paul thoughts
@Means Jean Paul actions.

@First recover all equipament and put them at his pockets. With this he stand up
and stay near the door.
*Jean Paul: Well at last we move out here, this good if I´m stay much time at
this container the better thing to do is a walk to keep my strenght and breath.
#Thinking to himself: Well I can´t do nothing stuck here, It´s better move now
and see what I can learn of this place and where I am, but I´m belive it isn´t
London 1880. He talk with polite manners but at that strange telephone he
changed, kill all of them... Much suspect, he don´t have fear from law? Kill
someone, could give to him a piece of cord around his neck, but it doesn´t
matter to me I just let the show continue and discover why he wants these
persons dead. I can´t say much about this guy and that strange tanks but I
belive they can´t hurt after all I known this for experience.
*Jean Paul: Just show the way doctor, but I´m sorry to ask and hear your
conversation I don´t want to but now is late, you say about intruders here, who
are them?
what they want here? This a medical lab why they want stole something from here?

@Walking... outside lab.
#Jesus, Mary and Joseph how bigger this place is? Let this emotion pass... Well
returning to actual subject doctor Donavan could be interesting person, his
temper change from curious to wrath in seconds but he wants someone dead let´s
discover something else this subject could be a offense to doctor.
*Jean Paul: Doctor Donavan you take me out of that tank for something, I don´t
known why but I have a debt with you by the way you need a help?
#Oh my! Dear god what non sense question, of course not he have a advance
technology and a full army of security (well I can see this because he talk for
different persons using his strange telephone because to expression Kill them,
if the intruders are in good number the security must be in good number too.)
@We are moving... around hallway and wait one more of that strange box with a
strange typewriter attached in it, hey he using it this important (see the code-
and commands) and write it in his notebook (later and when he´s not looking).
#Good a river travel, we are out of lab the outside is strange different of my
normal reality but at last don´t smell bad (In victorian age cities have a bad
smell because with farm people left their house and go to city and make the city
grow but without infrostructure the saneament system left much to desire), if he
have important things in his lab why he left so early it appears a escape and
not a tour travel.
*Jean Paul: I known we going to left this place but your research of something
important isn´t there and about these kids if that intruders are dangerous they
could hurt them, why we don´t call the police? Well doctor I trust you, a man of
science but I beggin to understand somethings and a quick response could me make
better... When and where we are?
#His response... I suspect it´s isn´t my time his technology is much advanced
too much any of book writers make a description of his scenarios using things
like that...Well M.Shelley did but is much weak in Frankenstein Lab and frankly
isn´t very weak description.
End of my thoughts, actions and speak I wait for next turn and see what Jean
Paul discover from doctor, see ya...

--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
wrote:

[snip]

> Chapter 3, Turn 2
>
> Sago's winced in pain, but he didn't think
> the blast had hit him directly.
> He was easily able to pull himself up. The
> machine-guards didn't have thier
> weapons pointed in his direction. Leaping up,
> he sprang into action, taking
> a few steps and leaping into the air. The world
> around him seemed to become
> a cascade of colors as he positioned his body
> into a kicking form, smashing
> his foot down onto the closest robot's chest.
> (ago rolls for damage on his Roundhouse Kick:
> 11 dice, minus the robot's
> Stamina. Roll is three for damage)
> Sago's well-placed kick made a CLANG sound, and
> he landed squarely on the
> floor. The robot staggered back, but didn't
> seem that much worse for the
> wear. Sago swallowed. "Uh oh."

[snip]

> Leaping past Eric, the first red ray from
> Sago's attacker suddenly ripped
> into the arm of the second robot, cutting it
> cleanly off of it's body.
> Sago's foe stopped his attack as the arm of his
> "partner" fell to the
> ground.

Sago grins a savage smile. Apparently he damaged
the targeting system, at least temporarily, with
that last kick. We will win this yet! The grin
slips as the burn on his back flairs up. That
laser cut through the metal arm like a sword
through silk. He's lucky to still be in one
piece. Got to end this fast, before serendipity
swings the other way. Sago pauses for a moment
to gather his resources and then unleashes the
lightning leg upon the same robot he attacked
before.

[snip]

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hmm.. I think I've seen an old asian guy (think Gen as in age) in a game or
movie or something using fans 2...

hehe anyway for an old guy using two small sticks/canes of some sort (a la
Mr Big?) would probably be more likely....

----- Original Message -----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.


> One more folks.
>
> Fan Dancing Art Style:
>
>
> This the ancient art of combat who use combat fan in a fight, major
> part of students from this styles are women, but the refinement and
> don´t danger appearance are their best weapon, this style is mix of
> dance and delicated moves but are very fast indeed, this a danger make
> confusion with dance and harmless appearance.
>
> Punch: Rotate (Spinning Clothsline) (3pt) Improved Rotate (Turbo
> Spinning Clothsline) (2pt), Triple Strike (1pt), Spinning Fan Attack
> (Spinning Back Fist) (1pt), Spinning Fan Knucke (Spinning Knuckle)
> (3pt), Fan Grab Punch (Monkey Grab Punch) (1pt)
> Kick: Double Hit Kick (1pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Flying Knee
> Thrust (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Stepping Front Kick (3pt), Lightining
> Leg (4pt), Wounded Knee (2pt), Handstand Kick (1pt)
> Grab: Dislocate Limb (3pt), Eye Rake (1pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt)
> Block: Deflect Punch (1pt), Missile Reflection (1pt), Energy Reflection
> (3pt)
> Athletics: Breakfall (1pt), Esquives (2pt), Displacement (2pt)
> Focus: Stunning Shout (2pt), Musical Acompaniment (1pt)
>
> Special Weapon: Combat Fan: Speed +2 Damage +1 Movement +0
> These fans were specially made of hardwood and added metal blades to
> provide both cutting and blunt weapon. Closed, the fan could be used to
> fight like a brass knuckles. Open, it was using slash attacks and with
> more danger because isn´t common the fan blades with poison on it. All
> punch manuvers receive the bonus like Claw used by Vega, grabs don´t
> receive bonus.
>
> Poisons: Many types of poisons but I´m still working in it but if
> someone already have some poisons can send to me?
>
>
>
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Kitana from MK *should* have fought like that. :p

I believe iron war fans were called 'gunsen'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Forge [mailto:milliken@...]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:17 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.


hmm.. I think I've seen an old asian guy (think Gen as in age) in a game or
movie or something using fans 2...

hehe anyway for an old guy using two small sticks/canes of some sort (a la
Mr Big?) would probably be more likely....

----- Original Message -----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.


> One more folks.
>
> Fan Dancing Art Style:
>
>
> This the ancient art of combat who use combat fan in a fight, major
> part of students from this styles are women, but the refinement and
> don´t danger appearance are their best weapon, this style is mix of
> dance and delicated moves but are very fast indeed, this a danger make
> confusion with dance and harmless appearance.
>
> Punch: Rotate (Spinning Clothsline) (3pt) Improved Rotate (Turbo
> Spinning Clothsline) (2pt), Triple Strike (1pt), Spinning Fan Attack
> (Spinning Back Fist) (1pt), Spinning Fan Knucke (Spinning Knuckle)
> (3pt), Fan Grab Punch (Monkey Grab Punch) (1pt)
> Kick: Double Hit Kick (1pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Flying Knee
> Thrust (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Stepping Front Kick (3pt), Lightining
> Leg (4pt), Wounded Knee (2pt), Handstand Kick (1pt)
> Grab: Dislocate Limb (3pt), Eye Rake (1pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt)
> Block: Deflect Punch (1pt), Missile Reflection (1pt), Energy Reflection
> (3pt)
> Athletics: Breakfall (1pt), Esquives (2pt), Displacement (2pt)
> Focus: Stunning Shout (2pt), Musical Acompaniment (1pt)
>
> Special Weapon: Combat Fan: Speed +2 Damage +1 Movement +0
> These fans were specially made of hardwood and added metal blades to
> provide both cutting and blunt weapon. Closed, the fan could be used to
> fight like a brass knuckles. Open, it was using slash attacks and with
> more danger because isn´t common the fan blades with poison on it. All
> punch manuvers receive the bonus like Claw used by Vega, grabs don´t
> receive bonus.
>
> Poisons: Many types of poisons but I´m still working in it but if
> someone already have some poisons can send to me?
>
>
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Thanks a lot I search all dictionary in home and don´t find this word, but all of you are wrong I use a ancient game of msx Kung Fu II the second opponent is a woman who fights with 2 combat fans, I always love that dance with fans is exotic, I just mix the good with usefull, thanks pal :).

Steve Karstensen wrote:

Kitana from MK *should* have fought like that.  :p

I believe iron war fans were called 'gunsen'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Forge [mailto:milliken@...]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:17 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

hmm.. I think I've seen an old asian guy (think Gen as in age) in a game or
movie or something using fans 2...

hehe anyway for an old guy using two small sticks/canes of some sort (a la
Mr Big?) would probably be more likely....

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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

> One more folks.
>
> Fan Dancing Art Style:
>
>
>  This the ancient art of combat who use combat fan in a fight, major
> part of students from this styles are women, but the refinement and
> don´t danger appearance are their best weapon, this style is mix of
> dance and delicated moves but are very fast indeed, this a danger make
> confusion with dance and harmless appearance.
>
>  Punch: Rotate (Spinning Clothsline) (3pt) Improved Rotate (Turbo
> Spinning Clothsline) (2pt), Triple Strike (1pt), Spinning Fan Attack
> (Spinning Back Fist) (1pt), Spinning Fan Knucke (Spinning Knuckle)
> (3pt), Fan Grab Punch (Monkey Grab Punch) (1pt)
>  Kick: Double Hit Kick (1pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Flying Knee
> Thrust (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Stepping Front Kick (3pt), Lightining
> Leg (4pt), Wounded Knee (2pt), Handstand Kick (1pt)
>  Grab: Dislocate Limb (3pt), Eye Rake (1pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt)
>  Block: Deflect Punch (1pt), Missile Reflection (1pt), Energy Reflection
> (3pt)
>  Athletics: Breakfall (1pt), Esquives (2pt), Displacement (2pt)
>  Focus: Stunning Shout (2pt), Musical Acompaniment (1pt)
>
> Special Weapon: Combat Fan: Speed +2 Damage +1 Movement +0
> These fans were specially made of hardwood and added metal blades to
> provide both cutting and blunt weapon. Closed, the fan could be used to
> fight like a brass knuckles. Open, it was using slash attacks and with
> more danger because isn´t common the fan blades with poison on it. All
> punch manuvers receive the bonus like Claw used by Vega, grabs don´t
> receive bonus.
>
> Poisons: Many types of poisons but I´m still working in it but if
> someone already have some poisons can send to me?
>
>
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Azathoth05 wrote:

>I always played you can't abort to a jump if you've moved, and it's always
>worked fine. Never had a player complain.
>
>-----------------------------------------------

This is VERY consistent with the other ideas/rulings that have been discussed here, and I wouldn't be the one to break your no-complaints streak...

However, if I played a Jab with a move of 2, but only moved 1 hex, and I was then interrupted by a Suplex, shouldn't I be able to Abort to a Jump and move 1 more hex? Failing that, could Grappling Defense become an Abort Maneuver? There has to be SOME way to deal with fast Grabbers... otherwise everyone will start learning Block-Suplex Combos!


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Block to Head Bite is even better. ;)

Anyhoo, Yes, you can abort in the manner described.

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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 1:15 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Offical Rules Discussion


Azathoth05 wrote:

>I always played you can't abort to a jump if you've moved, and it's always
>worked fine. Never had a player complain.
>
>-----------------------------------------------

This is VERY consistent with the other ideas/rulings that have been
discussed here, and I wouldn't be the one to break your no-complaints
streak...

However, if I played a Jab with a move of 2, but only moved 1 hex, and I was
then interrupted by a Suplex, shouldn't I be able to Abort to a Jump and
move 1 more hex? Failing that, could Grappling Defense become an Abort
Maneuver? There has to be SOME way to deal with fast Grabbers... otherwise
everyone will start learning Block-Suplex Combos!


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> Chapter 3, Turn 2
>
> Sago's winced in pain, but he didn't think the
> blast had hit him directly.
> He was easily able to pull himself up. The
> machine-guards didn't have thier
> weapons pointed in his direction. Leaping up, he
> sprang into action, taking
> a few steps and leaping into the air. The world
> around him seemed to become
> a cascade of colors as he positioned his body into a
> kicking form, smashing
> his foot down onto the closest robot's chest.
> (ago rolls for damage on his Roundhouse Kick: 11
> dice, minus the robot's
> Stamina. Roll is three for damage)
> Sago's well-placed kick made a CLANG sound, and he
> landed squarely on the
> floor. The robot staggered back, but didn't seem
> that much worse for the
> wear. Sago swallowed. "Uh oh."
> A similar sound came from the other robot's area,
> and Eric could be seen
> doing a similar maneuver to the second foe, with
> similar results. (Eric
> rolls damage - Stamina, result of 2 damage for his
> Jumping Roundhouse Kick)
> Sammi grabbed Ryuu as he was in mid-roll and
> landed behind the nearest
> table, hoping to keep the kid from danger. "Kid, are
> you OK? These things
> are mean, stay down!" Sammi peered over the edge
> just in time to see Sago
> and Eric striking the robots with little effect. She
> had better think of
> something, and think of it quick if they were to
> survive.
> The large androids raised thier arms, both in the
> same fashion and at the
> same speed. From their palms, a bright red ray
> flashed. (damage roll-Stamina
> for Sago, roll 0 damage and a botch, damage
> roll-Stamina for Eric, roll 3
> damage, but see below).
> The hand and it's continuous ray followed Sago as
> he moved to dodge. Eric,
> however was in the sights of the metal man he faced.
> The arm reached foward,
> the electronic eye of the guardian placing perfectly
> on Eric's forehead.
> Leaping past Eric, the first red ray from Sago's
> attacker suddenly ripped
> into the arm of the second robot, cutting it cleanly
> off of it's body.
> Sago's foe stopped his attack as the arm of his
> "partner" fell to the
> ground.
> (Eric does not take damage as the Sago's
> attacker's botch stops it's
> attack)
> Not bad, Sammi thought, but the second robot, now
> missing it's arm, didn't
> seem to be stopping it's attck, but moving to grab
> Eric now. But what could
> she do?
> Ryuu watched in amazement. His ears twitched as he
> heard something coming
> down the hall. Another robot? he wondered. He stayed
> close to Sammi,
> wondering what she would do next. Should he try to
> fight too? He wondered
> what is parents would say, and what his grandfather
> would say. His parents
> would no doubt be furious, but his grandfather
> always seemed to be more
> willing to let Ryuu get into trouble, as if he knew
> something about Ryuu
> that he didn't...

OOC: This is gonna seem like a long shot, but...

IC: Sammi's eyes narrowed as she noticed some of the
loose wiring behind the 'bots, then an evil smile
crossed her face as she remembered something her dad
showed her. Quickly looking around for a pair of
rubber gloves, she whispered to Ryuu, "Stay put until
the coast is clear."

Sammi then grabbed the gloves and put them on, trying
to slip around behind the 'bots, which were otherwise
occupied. Grabbing a pair of wires, she jammed them
into the open arm socket of the one making a grab for Eric.
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Azathoth05 wrote:

>that's a real good point! because only one of the combo's is dizzy, I'd say the middle fierce in the first maneuver only gets one bonus: +2 speed as part of previous combo or add damage to dizzy, but possibly not both (storyteller call ultimately) If both were dizzy combos it wouldn't be an issue
>-----------------------------------------------

Check out this example:

1st Combo: Jab to Fierce (dizzy)
2nd Combo: Fierce to Fireball (dizzy)

I guess the only real arguable point here is whether you get the +2 speed bonus from the Fierce Punch in Combo 1 to the Fireball in Combo 2, but I think the rules for Combos spell out quite clearly that you do. The above Combos are what I refer to as Linked Combos.

But as for the Dizzy: You DEFINITELY add the damage of the Jab to that of the Fierce to determine if a Dizzy has been scored, AND you add the damage of the Fierce to that of the Fireball... BUT, you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT add the damage of the Jab to that of the Fireball, because they're not part of the same Dizzy Combo.

Say the Jab scores 1 point, and the Fierce scores 3 for a total of 4. If your opponent has a Stamina of 3 or less, he's Dizzy. Let's say his Stamina is 4, though, so he's still with it. Then say you score only 1 point with the Fireball. He's STILL not Dizzy, because the Jab is no longer a factor. Of course, if you had a Jab-Fierce-Fireball(Dizzy) Combo, you could add up all 3, but with Linked Combos, the damage of the VERY FIRST Maneuver does NOT carry over.



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Whether or not a GM chooses to allow it or not, however, is a different
story. I do not believe for a second that a player should be allowed to get
+2 speed for the entire combat if he chooses to only throw Jabs and has a
Jab to Jab combo. It's too much of a bonus for four experience points and I
believe it goes against the spirit of what the dev team was trying to
accomplish with the combo system.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jade M Prout [mailto:twitchboy@...]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 1:37 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Combos of combos


Azathoth05 wrote:

>that's a real good point! because only one of the combo's is dizzy, I'd

say the middle fierce in the first maneuver only gets one bonus: +2 speed
as part of previous combo or add damage to dizzy, but possibly not both
(storyteller call ultimately) If both were dizzy combos it wouldn't be an
issue

>-----------------------------------------------

Check out this example:

1st Combo: Jab to Fierce (dizzy)
2nd Combo: Fierce to Fireball (dizzy)

I guess the only real arguable point here is whether you get the +2 speed
bonus from the Fierce Punch in Combo 1 to the Fireball in Combo 2, but I
think the rules for Combos spell out quite clearly that you do. The above
Combos are what I refer to as Linked Combos.

But as for the Dizzy: You DEFINITELY add the damage of the Jab to that of
the Fierce to determine if a Dizzy has been scored, AND you add the damage
of the Fierce to that of the Fireball... BUT, you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT add the
damage of the Jab to that of the Fireball, because they're not part of the
same Dizzy Combo.

Say the Jab scores 1 point, and the Fierce scores 3 for a total of 4. If
your opponent has a Stamina of 3 or less, he's Dizzy. Let's say his Stamina
is 4, though, so he's still with it. Then say you score only 1 point with
the Fireball. He's STILL not Dizzy, because the Jab is no longer a factor.
Of course, if you had a Jab-Fierce-Fireball(Dizzy) Combo, you could add up
all 3, but with Linked Combos, the damage of the VERY FIRST Maneuver does
NOT carry over.



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Steve Karstensen wrote:

>it may be three moves long, but the fighter never purchased a Jab to Fierce
>to Fierce combo. So it doesn't count.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>This is problem. Peharps the most correct was:
>
>Move1: Jab
>Move2: Fierce (+2 to speed)
>Move3: Fierce
>Move4: Fireball (+2 to speed, dizzy)
>
>_______________________________________________

I'm not sure which example you were referring to, Steve, but in THIS example (above) he's not claiming any Combo benefits from the Fierce Punch to the other Fierce Punch. He's just saying that he thinks you need to play the second F.P. to get the speed bonus with the Fireball. I disagree, and here's my song and dance:

A Combo is a "link" between two (or more) Maneuvers. This "link" gives the second Maneuver a +2 speed bonus when it is played on any turn FOLLOWING any turn during which the 1st Maneuver was played. So you could play the Jab, then play the Fierce at +2 speed (because they're in a Combo together), THEN play a Fireball at +2 speed (because the Fierce and Fireball are in a Combo together) You can add the damage of the Fierce Punch (BUT NOT THE JAB!) to the damage of the Fireball for purposes of Dizzying your opponent. For 3-Maneuver (or more) Dizzies, you MUST purchase a 3-Maneuver Dizzy Combo for 3 Power Points.

Look at Dee Jay for example: He has a Jumping Fierce to Strong to Double Dread Kick (Dizzy) Combo, and a Fierce to Strong to Sonic Boom (Dizzy) Combo. This costs a total of *6* Power Points. Because both Combos are 3 Maneuvers long, he can score Dizzies rather easily with either Combo, but he can't "link" the Combos together...

But if he had a greater number of smaller Combos, he could do all kinds of crazy shiznit! Ex: Fierce to Strong (Dizzy), Jumping Fierce to Strong (Dizzy), Strong to Double Dread Kick (Dizzy), Strong to Sonic Boom (Dizzy). This costs a total of *8* Power Points.

PROS: He can go into the Strong Punch at +2 speed after playing EITHER Fierce OR Jumping Fierce, and after the Strong Punch he can play EITHER a Double Dread Kick OR a Sonic Boom at +2 speed. This means he can keep his opponents guessing as to what Maneuver is coming next, and he has greater flexibility without slowing down.

CONS: He can't add the damage of all three moves (whichever three he uses) for purposes of Dizzying his opponent. Only 2 Maneuvers that are part of a given Dizzy Combo can be summed up for a Dizzy. Also, he's spent more Power Points on Combos. Seems like a fairly even trade-off.

RECAP: You can "link" one Combo to another (for the +2 speed bonus) if the LAST Maneuver in Combo A is the same as the FIRST Maneuver in Combo B, but you CANNOT combine the damage of two "linked" Combos for purposes of Dizzying an opponent.


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