Yes, I knew that BMPs and GIFs are "larger" than JPGs. I use JPGs for all my
graphics, except the animated GIFs, of course. Thanks for the imput though,
I appreciate any comments on my page, at least I know someone is looking at
it at all, heh.

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk <leirbakk@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:35 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online

>On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, J. Scott Pittman wrote:
>
>> I see, that's what I kinda figured... but what's a streetfighter page
>> without good grapics? And in my humble opinion, I think I have both good
>> quality and quantity, if not perfect spelling
>
>That's true. However, if you do use GIFs or BMPs, I'd suggest considering
>a conversion to the JPEG format. The JPEG format, though it does include a
>certain distortion of the image, does (usually) take less space than a GIF
>or BMP. Another way to possibly save some space, would be to try and
>reduce the color depth of GIF or BMPs (doesn't matter much for JPEG
>anyways). Also, instead of using a resize command in your browser, you
>could try to thumbnail (or, manually resize) images, so that they do take
>less space.
>
>I'm not saying you should remove anything, I'm saying you'll have to keep
>these things in mind when you are designing your web-pages. Oh yeah, and I
>just looked at www.mortalkombat.com, and it looks great :) Here in Norway,
>we just got the Mortal Kombat: Konquest pilot released as a separate
>Mortal Kombat movie, and boy! those moves are a cinch to convery to Street
>Fighter ;) ... Not to mention that it seems whomever are behind the
>Konquest series finally found someone that _knows_ how to do spectacular
>kicks and jumps, _and_ can act (well, sorta). Yeah. I just wish one of our
>local channels picks this up :)
>
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>leirbakk@...
>
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Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament

but

>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I would like to ask for submissions for an official rules page.

Again, the page will be a combination of the best maneuvers, styles,
backgrounds, abilities, etc. found on the net, created by different people
and voted in as new "official" rules by our mailing group. In this way, we
can keep the game developing just as if it were still in print, and everyone
has a chance to be a part of it. I will even hold votes on rules that are
vague or have been the center of some debate, and post the "official"
version that everyone votes correct. We could use such a page to add lots of
color to the characters, and still feel like we are doing it in an official
manner.

So, if you have a submission to make, or if you've seen something on a page
somewhere that would make a great official rule, please send it in and let's
get the ball rolling. But remember, this is to be a SLOWLY progressive page,
not a huge amount of information at once. So keep submissions/nominations to
a minimal. Once I have a few nominations, I will start the voting process.

Here we go again...
Thanks,
J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

Oh well yes but if is new and I don´t have it from own I just don´t known how it works.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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But think well this a advantage for the people who knowns where find the good ones or should say best manuvers with official stuff all persons known where they´re walking. Rank 9 warriors are very powerfull I´m must be carefull with these non official manuvers or risk all balance of power of the game, by the way when Mr.Military will spend their points, about points in Dark Streets I known Jean Paul appear just for a few moments but he already receive points? a rule page is a good one I´m trying to make a page for myself to put tournaments but I will continue posting results here and there too, I just trying make that thing works but soon this will be ready, I should belive too this time to revision somethings like a remake of the Stf stuff the official work have at last when the same age of Street Fighter 2 Champion ediction or just say much time, Alpha series put many things is curious in timeline Alpha series are before Streetfighter 2 but this make the characters strange, they´re more stronger in Alpha series and lost power in the sequence but this only a idea for future I known change the official stuff will make the major mess in the earth, much persons like current rules and don´t like change them, I belive I like the current stuff to anyway only two or three things could be changed but the original frame is good to me.

Rinaldo Gambetta wrote:

Oh well yes but if is new and I don´t have it from own I just don´t known how it works.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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By the way Mr.Military acept Johnny Invincible challenge? Tactis? Spend exp points?

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

>
> I see, that's what I kinda figured... but what's a streetfighter page
> without good grapics?

I resemble that! Actually, I keep images to a minimum just for that
reason. Of course, my javascripts probably negate any gain, but what can
you do?

And in my humble opinion, I think I have both good

> quality and quantity, if not perfect spelling

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more low-cal graphical goodness.

(of course, I do this professionally... ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:21 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online


--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

>
> I see, that's what I kinda figured... but what's a streetfighter page
> without good grapics?

I resemble that! Actually, I keep images to a minimum just for that
reason. Of course, my javascripts probably negate any gain, but what can
you do?

And in my humble opinion, I think I have both good

> quality and quantity, if not perfect spelling

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Are there any styles that strive for evasion (ie.. I guess I'm thinking
Hokuto/Karin, etc)
Perhaps there could be a mysterious character known only as Untouchable not
because he can't be hit, but because he's so evasive its difficult to attack
him, or if you do attack he generally relies on counters (I mean the guy has
to be *somewhere* all the time right? So I don't mean that he's not
beatable, just that his specialty is avoidance!) and he probably tends to
attack at the time when his opponent (at least seemingly) leaves themself
the most open/defenceless. Drastic measures could involve tricks like some
sort of copy (even if only in image) of himself to fool his opponent
breifly. He should not be overpowered in any way, in fact he's probably
very nimble but not all that strong, and he'd probably favour unexpected
strikes but take moderate to heavy damage from a well timed move from an
observant opponent.. This sort of character would obviously be planning his
moves long before doing anything at all.. your thoughts?

this is very wind/water based
is there an alternate ground/fire based one to balance?
(hehe I'm guessing an even rarer group)

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:43 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style: Storm Kung Fu


>
> Background:
>
> Kung Fu is known for its many substyles; Eight Drunken Genii, Eagle's
Claw,
> Shaolin, Dragon, and more. But there is one that has been lost to the
> annals of history which has only recently re-surfaced. Storm Kung Fu is
the
> exclusive style of a cult of storm-worshippers known as the Warriors of
the
> Storm, studied deep within their secret temple somewhere in the China sea.
> The cult is led, it is said, by a secretive and enigmatic individual known
> as Lin Fang. No other ruler of the cult has ever been mentioned
throughout
> history, which has led some to believe that Lin Fang is actually several
> hundred years old and was the cult's founder. Whether this is true or
not,
> he is said to be both the undisputed master of and inventor of Storm Kung
> Fu.
>
> Organization:
>
> The Warriors of the Storm are ranked in three categories, each using a
title
> and colored Kung Fu uniform to denote his position. The Warriors of Air
> wear white or grey, and the Warriors of Water wear blue. The levels of
> mastery go from Disciple to Warrior to Storm Lord. In order to progress
> from one level to the next, a fighter must acquire a certain number of
dots
> in his techniques, abilities, and attributes (much like a Ninja), then
pass
> a Trial. These trials generally involve combat and some test regarding
the
> fighter's chosen elemental specialty. Some Warriors of the Storm have
gone
> beyond even Storm Lord, and enter the Circuit on occasion to test their
> abilities. Storm Kung Fu is about two shades of rare beyond even Majestic
> Crow, in this regard.
>
> The Style:
>
> Storm Kung Fu uses the normal Special Maneuver, Chi, and Willpower ratings
> for Kung Fu. In addition, the Storm Kung Fu practitioner must choose the
> Elemental background of either Air or Water. Background dots are
purchased
> normally (see The Player's Guide for more information on Elementals).
Storm
> Kung Fu stylists prefer sweeping, circular attacks (to mimic the flow of
air
> and water currents) and direct, hard-hitting, fast attacks. Their Special
> maneuver choices will definitely display patterns that are weather
oriented,
> such as Hurricane/Whirlwind Kick, Rekka Ken (aka the 'Wind Fist'),
Lightning
> Leg, Shock Treatment, and Elemental powers like Flight, Air Blast, Drench,
> and Push.
>
> Stats for the Stylists are forthcoming, as are those for Lin Fang.
>
> Lin Fang:
>
> Rumored to be centuries old, Lin Fang is unique among fighters in that he
is
> one of the only individuals in existence to master multiple Elemental
> backgrounds. Lin Fang is said to have both the powers of Air and Water
and
> a number of other techniques that legend only hints about. Nothing can be
> said for sure, unfortunately, as no one has seen him in years... not even
> his students. Storm Lords handle most of the daily activities of the
cult's
> temple, including training of new Disciples. One thing is certain,
though:
> if he did exist, and did choose to fight, he would give any of the current
> World Warriors one hell of a fight.
>
> Stephen Karstensen
> Applications Consultant
> Concurrent Technologies
> (908)604-6100 x216
>
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...if there is, it hasn't surfaced yet. ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Forge [mailto:milliken@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:06 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style: Storm Kung Fu


this is very wind/water based
is there an alternate ground/fire based one to balance?
(hehe I'm guessing an even rarer group)

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:43 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style: Storm Kung Fu


>
> Background:
>
> Kung Fu is known for its many substyles; Eight Drunken Genii, Eagle's
Claw,
> Shaolin, Dragon, and more. But there is one that has been lost to the
> annals of history which has only recently re-surfaced. Storm Kung Fu is
the
> exclusive style of a cult of storm-worshippers known as the Warriors of
the
> Storm, studied deep within their secret temple somewhere in the China sea.
> The cult is led, it is said, by a secretive and enigmatic individual known
> as Lin Fang. No other ruler of the cult has ever been mentioned
throughout
> history, which has led some to believe that Lin Fang is actually several
> hundred years old and was the cult's founder. Whether this is true or
not,
> he is said to be both the undisputed master of and inventor of Storm Kung
> Fu.
>
> Organization:
>
> The Warriors of the Storm are ranked in three categories, each using a
title
> and colored Kung Fu uniform to denote his position. The Warriors of Air
> wear white or grey, and the Warriors of Water wear blue. The levels of
> mastery go from Disciple to Warrior to Storm Lord. In order to progress
> from one level to the next, a fighter must acquire a certain number of
dots
> in his techniques, abilities, and attributes (much like a Ninja), then
pass
> a Trial. These trials generally involve combat and some test regarding
the
> fighter's chosen elemental specialty. Some Warriors of the Storm have
gone
> beyond even Storm Lord, and enter the Circuit on occasion to test their
> abilities. Storm Kung Fu is about two shades of rare beyond even Majestic
> Crow, in this regard.
>
> The Style:
>
> Storm Kung Fu uses the normal Special Maneuver, Chi, and Willpower ratings
> for Kung Fu. In addition, the Storm Kung Fu practitioner must choose the
> Elemental background of either Air or Water. Background dots are
purchased
> normally (see The Player's Guide for more information on Elementals).
Storm
> Kung Fu stylists prefer sweeping, circular attacks (to mimic the flow of
air
> and water currents) and direct, hard-hitting, fast attacks. Their Special
> maneuver choices will definitely display patterns that are weather
oriented,
> such as Hurricane/Whirlwind Kick, Rekka Ken (aka the 'Wind Fist'),
Lightning
> Leg, Shock Treatment, and Elemental powers like Flight, Air Blast, Drench,
> and Push.
>
> Stats for the Stylists are forthcoming, as are those for Lin Fang.
>
> Lin Fang:
>
> Rumored to be centuries old, Lin Fang is unique among fighters in that he
is
> one of the only individuals in existence to master multiple Elemental
> backgrounds. Lin Fang is said to have both the powers of Air and Water
and
> a number of other techniques that legend only hints about. Nothing can be
> said for sure, unfortunately, as no one has seen him in years... not even
> his students. Storm Lords handle most of the daily activities of the
cult's
> temple, including training of new Disciples. One thing is certain,
though:
> if he did exist, and did choose to fight, he would give any of the current
> World Warriors one hell of a fight.
>
> Stephen Karstensen
> Applications Consultant
> Concurrent Technologies
> (908)604-6100 x216
>
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--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

>
> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
> what makes a page use more bandwith?

Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
much longer to download.

> Scott
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2036 11:59 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
> >
> >by the way dude, Dogs of War is a major bandwidth hog. I have an ISDN
> and
> >it still took like five minutes to download each page.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
> >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 1:35 AM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] EPICS online
> >
> >
> >EPICS, a new game system designed by me, is now posted at dogs of war.
> It
> >has nothing to do with street fighter, but I thought you gamers out
> there
> >might want to take a look at it anyway. It's totaly original and unlike
> any
> >game system before it, I think. Please take a look at it and send me
> your
> >comments!
> >
> >J. Scott Pittman
> >Game Designer, Writer, Artist
> >http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
> >"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds,
> we
> >shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the
> hills,
> >we shall never surrender. These are not dark days; these are great
> days."
> >- Winston Churchill
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ArkonDLoC@... <ArkonDLoC@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Thursday, February 07, 2036 1:32 AM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
> >
> >
> >>
> >>In a message dated 2/3/2000 1:40:04 PM, joespitt@... writes:
> >>
> >><< Sabrina had just slid into the room. She wondered if the robots
> >noticed
> >>
> >>her as well, but she was hidden near the fallen guard, and they might
> not
> >>
> >>sense her as seperate from him. >>
> >>
> >>This matchstick won't do anything against those machines, Sabrina
> thought
> >as
> >>she slid the baton into her belt. Fortunaty Sabrina had something for
> >>emergencies. She coldly drew her gun.
> >>
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actually, it does. Long Javascript code will add to the overall size of the
page. Granted, 20K for a page versus 10K isn't much, but it does.

My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background
and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers. I'd
also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large splash pages
are a huge no-no.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:13 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online




--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

>
> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
> what makes a page use more bandwith?

Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
much longer to download.

> Scott
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2036 11:59 PM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
> >
> >by the way dude, Dogs of War is a major bandwidth hog. I have an ISDN
> and
> >it still took like five minutes to download each page.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
> >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 1:35 AM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] EPICS online
> >
> >
> >EPICS, a new game system designed by me, is now posted at dogs of war.
> It
> >has nothing to do with street fighter, but I thought you gamers out
> there
> >might want to take a look at it anyway. It's totaly original and unlike
> any
> >game system before it, I think. Please take a look at it and send me
> your
> >comments!
> >
> >J. Scott Pittman
> >Game Designer, Writer, Artist
> >http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
> >"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds,
> we
> >shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the
> hills,
> >we shall never surrender. These are not dark days; these are great
> days."
> >- Winston Churchill
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ArkonDLoC@... <ArkonDLoC@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Thursday, February 07, 2036 1:32 AM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
> >
> >
> >>
> >>In a message dated 2/3/2000 1:40:04 PM, joespitt@... writes:
> >>
> >><< Sabrina had just slid into the room. She wondered if the robots
> >noticed
> >>
> >>her as well, but she was hidden near the fallen guard, and they might
> not
> >>
> >>sense her as seperate from him. >>
> >>
> >>This matchstick won't do anything against those machines, Sabrina
> thought
> >as
> >>she slid the baton into her belt. Fortunaty Sabrina had something for
> >>emergencies. She coldly drew her gun.
> >>
>
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--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:

> So, if you have a submission to make, or if you've seen something on a
> page
> somewhere that would make a great official rule, please send it in and
> let's
> get the ball rolling. But remember, this is to be a SLOWLY progressive
> page,
> not a huge amount of information at once. So keep
> submissions/nominations to
> a minimal. Once I have a few nominations, I will start the voting
> process.

Do you mean a poll?

One thing I think we should try to resolve is super rules. Do we want
them? If so which kind (game version)? All of them? Who's rules should
we use? All of them? etc.

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Hong Kong Thug Brawling:

This a type of brawling used by criminals and thugs but must of them can
be something more than that. Ryuji Yamazaki from K.O.F series and Fatal
Fury give the idea for this.

Punch: Buffalo Punch (1pt), Haymaker (1pt), Widowmaker (1pt), Turn Punch
(4pt), Extandible Slash, Extandilble High Slash (1pt), Extandible Low
Slash (1pt), Rekka Ken (5pts), Elbow Smash (1pt), Knife Hand Strike
(3pt), Ear Pop (2pt), Groin punch (3pt), Sand in the eyes (1pt)
Kick: Foot Sweep (1pt), Foward Slide Kick (2pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Double Hit Kick (1pt), Reverse Frontal Kick (1pt), Wounded Knee (2pt)
Block: Maka Wara (4pt), Deflect punch (1pt)
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunderstrike (1pt), Ground Fight (4pt)
Grab: Braincracker (1pt), Headbutt Hold (2pt), Flying Tackle (2pt),
Grabling Defense (3pt), Knee Basher (2pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Eye Rake
(1pt), Hong Kong Floor Treatment (5pt)
Focus: Pocket Hand (1pt), Extandible Limbs (4pts)

New Manuvers:

Extandible Slash: Is a basic punch with a Extandible limb efect
Requisites: Extandible Limbs
Cost: none
Power Points: free but need Extandible limbs.
Speed Variable
Damage Variable
Movement Variable

Extandible High Slash: Is a basic punch but give knockdown to Aerial
opponents.
Requisites: Extandible Limbs
Cost: 1 willpower
Power Points: Hong Kong Thug Brawling (1pt)
Speed Variable
Damage Variable
Movement Variable

Extandible Low Slash: Is a basic punch but give knockdown to ground
opponents.
Requisites: Extandible Limbs
Cost: 1 willpower
Power Points: Hong Kong Thug Brawling (1pt)
Speed Variable
Damage Variable
Movement Variable

Groin Punch (from J.Scot Pittman manuvers compendium) (New Maneuver)
Punch Maneuver
Prerequisites: athletics 2, punch 2
Power Points: any 3
Description: The fighter does the splits, moving quickly downward, and
punches his victim in the groin area.
System: All damage is calculated to see if the opponent is dizzied - the
maneuver can actualy only cause a maximum of 2 health levels.
Cost: 1 Willpower
Speed: +1
Damage: +6 vs. men, +2 vs. all others
Move: none

Sand In The Eyes (from J.Scot Pittman manuvers compendium) (New
Maneuver)
Punch Maneuver
To Learn: Punch 1
Power Points: Any 1
Description: The fighter makes the most dishonorable move of grabbing a
handful of dirt, sand, or other loose, grainy derbis and throws it into
the eyes of his opponent, temorarily blinding him.
System: The fighter must have a supply of something to put into another
characrter's eyes - dirt from an arena floor, pepper spray, sand, etc.
The character then attempt to throw this substance into the opponent's
sight. The attacker rolls Dexterity + Punch Technique vs. his opponent's
Dexterity + Wits. if the attacker gains more successes, the victim is
blinded, and is concidered "dizzied" for one turn.
This maneuver has a range of one hex only (an adjacent hex must be the
subject of the attack). The Storyteller should feel free to cause the
character to lose temporary Honor after such a lowly attack.
Modifiers: Cost: none, Speed: +1, damage: none, Move: None

Pocket Hand (1pt): It´s a type of quick manuver the fighter put the hand
in the pocket and hide it inside, and charge it with chi, and when he
remove from the hand he can choice +1 damage, +1 Speed or +1 Movement to
punch or grab manuvers but for grabs the fighter must charge both hands
and no the fighter don´t get a higher bonus for charge the two hands.
Power points: 1 points
Requires: Focus 2

Hmmm....as far as just brining styles down to thier basics, over here we
allways say that Savate is the Style intended for people not to get hit.
Between esquives and Displacemnt alone, it can be tought to nail a French
Kickboxer.

> Are there any styles that strive for evasion (ie.. I guess I'm thinking
> Hokuto/Karin, etc)
> Perhaps there could be a mysterious character known only as Untouchable

not

> because he can't be hit, but because he's so evasive its difficult to

attack

> him, or if you do attack he generally relies on counters (I mean the guy

has

> to be *somewhere* all the time right? So I don't mean that he's not
> beatable, just that his specialty is avoidance!) and he probably tends to
> attack at the time when his opponent (at least seemingly) leaves themself
> the most open/defenceless. Drastic measures could involve tricks like

some

> sort of copy (even if only in image) of himself to fool his opponent
> breifly. He should not be overpowered in any way, in fact he's probably
> very nimble but not all that strong, and he'd probably favour unexpected
> strikes but take moderate to heavy damage from a well timed move from an
> observant opponent.. This sort of character would obviously be planning

his

> moves long before doing anything at all.. your thoughts?
>
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--- Forge <milliken@...> wrote:

>
> this is very wind/water based
> is there an alternate ground/fire based one to balance?
> (hehe I'm guessing an even rarer group)

If their is, it should involve liquid hot mag-ma.

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>>My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background

and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers.

Actually, I've got some great responses to the music. Two people have
e-mailed me and requested the midi files. To everyone else I say turn down
the volume, heh.
I like my background =(, not to mention all the code changes I'd need to
make to make a plain black background, ugh.

>>I'd also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large

splash pages
are a huge no-no.

Well, the cool thing about the splash page is you can just hit it and
continue.

I realize overall the page takes a long time to download. Sorry to all of
you that have to wait for the page when viewing it. Again, I appreciate any
comments about my page, thanks for taking the time to mention these things.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:19 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online

>
>actually, it does. Long Javascript code will add to the overall size of

the

>page. Granted, 20K for a page versus 10K isn't much, but it does.
>
>My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background
>and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers.

I'd

>also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large splash

pages

>are a huge no-no.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:13 AM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
>
>
>--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:
>>
>> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
>> what makes a page use more bandwith?
>
>Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
>browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
>much longer to download.
>
>> Scott
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 06, 2036 11:59 PM
>> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>>
>>
>> >
>> >by the way dude, Dogs of War is a major bandwidth hog. I have an ISDN
>> and
>> >it still took like five minutes to download each page.
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
>> >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 1:35 AM
>> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >Subject: [streetfighter] EPICS online
>> >
>> >
>> >EPICS, a new game system designed by me, is now posted at dogs of war.
>> It
>> >has nothing to do with street fighter, but I thought you gamers out
>> there
>> >might want to take a look at it anyway. It's totaly original and unlike
>> any
>> >game system before it, I think. Please take a look at it and send me
>> your
>> >comments!
>> >
>> >J. Scott Pittman
>> >Game Designer, Writer, Artist
>> >http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
>> >"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds,
>> we
>> >shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the
>> hills,
>> >we shall never surrender. These are not dark days; these are great
>> days."
>> >- Winston Churchill
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: ArkonDLoC@... <ArkonDLoC@...>
>> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>> >Date: Thursday, February 07, 2036 1:32 AM
>> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Dark Streets, Chapter 3, turn 1
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>In a message dated 2/3/2000 1:40:04 PM, joespitt@... writes:
>> >>
>> >><< Sabrina had just slid into the room. She wondered if the robots
>> >noticed
>> >>
>> >>her as well, but she was hidden near the fallen guard, and they might
>> not
>> >>
>> >>sense her as seperate from him. >>
>> >>
>> >>This matchstick won't do anything against those machines, Sabrina
>> thought
>> >as
>> >>she slid the baton into her belt. Fortunaty Sabrina had something for
>> >>emergencies. She coldly drew her gun.
>> >>
>>
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>One thing I think we should try to resolve is super rules. Do we want
>them? If so which kind (game version)? All of them? Who's rules should
>we use? All of them? etc.

OK, for those who don't know, what exactly ARE super-rules, and what effects
do they have to the game? Why are super-rules a good idea? Do they reflect
an aspect of the video game? What pages have super-rules?

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
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"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

"To everyone else I say turn down the volume, heh."

yea, but it still has to be loaded... which hogs bandwidth that should be
used for content.

"I like my background =(, not to mention all the code changes I'd need to
make to make a plain black background, ugh."

background graphics should be as small as possible. Yours weighs in at 80K,
which is the sort of size an entire *page* should be. Not to mention that
it's not meant to be a tiled graphic.

"Well, the cool thing about the splash page is you can just hit it and
continue."

agreed. The splash page is a good size, now that I go back and analyze it.
I was more concerned with the main page.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:19 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online

>
>actually, it does. Long Javascript code will add to the overall size of

the

>page. Granted, 20K for a page versus 10K isn't much, but it does.
>
>My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background
>and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers.

I'd

>also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large splash

pages

>are a huge no-no.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:13 AM
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
>
>
>--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:
>>
>> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
>> what makes a page use more bandwith?
>
>Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
>browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
>much longer to download.
>

By the way (on the subject above), for those of you who e-mailed me with
suggestions to EPICS, I have changed a few things. The game uses only
ten-sided dice now, the difficulty chart changed because of this, and
Survival Point awards have two new categories, Out of the Frying Pan awards
and Into the Fire awards.

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

>>about points in Dark Streets I known Jean Paul appear just for a

few moments but he already receive points?

 

Attachments :

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:15 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: About Ages Tournament.

By the way Mr.Military acept Johnny Invincible challenge? Tactis? Spend exp points?

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
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I will replace the background with a smaller tiled background soon. That
will cut back on the bandwith, right?

J. Scott Pittman
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online

>
>"To everyone else I say turn down the volume, heh."
>
>yea, but it still has to be loaded... which hogs bandwidth that should be
>used for content.
>
>"I like my background =(, not to mention all the code changes I'd need to
>make to make a plain black background, ugh."
>
>background graphics should be as small as possible. Yours weighs in at

80K,

>which is the sort of size an entire *page* should be. Not to mention that
>it's not meant to be a tiled graphic.
>
>"Well, the cool thing about the splash page is you can just hit it and
>continue."
>
>agreed. The splash page is a good size, now that I go back and analyze it.
>I was more concerned with the main page.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:19 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
>>
>>actually, it does. Long Javascript code will add to the overall size of
>the
>>page. Granted, 20K for a page versus 10K isn't much, but it does.
>>
>>My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background
>>and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers.
>I'd
>>also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large splash
>pages
>>are a huge no-no.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
>>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:13 AM
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
>>> what makes a page use more bandwith?
>>
>>Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
>>browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
>>much longer to download.
>>
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big time.

make sure that it's a graphic that looks good tiled and doesn't obscure the
text.

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From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 12:57 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online


I will replace the background with a smaller tiled background soon. That
will cut back on the bandwith, right?

J. Scott Pittman
Game Designer, Writer, Artist
Visit the Street Fighter:Dogs of War page at:
http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/StreetFighter.htm
"Oh, you want a little fisticuffs?" - Mr. Furious

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online

>
>"To everyone else I say turn down the volume, heh."
>
>yea, but it still has to be loaded... which hogs bandwidth that should be
>used for content.
>
>"I like my background =(, not to mention all the code changes I'd need to
>make to make a plain black background, ugh."
>
>background graphics should be as small as possible. Yours weighs in at

80K,

>which is the sort of size an entire *page* should be. Not to mention that
>it's not meant to be a tiled graphic.
>
>"Well, the cool thing about the splash page is you can just hit it and
>continue."
>
>agreed. The splash page is a good size, now that I go back and analyze it.
>I was more concerned with the main page.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:19 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>
>
>>
>>actually, it does. Long Javascript code will add to the overall size of
>the
>>page. Granted, 20K for a page versus 10K isn't much, but it does.
>>
>>My suggestions for Dogs of War would be to ditch that enormous background
>>and the Midi music. Embedded Midi is annoying to 99.9% of web surfers.
>I'd
>>also get rid of the splash page or make it much smaller. Large splash
>pages
>>are a huge no-no.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
>>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:13 AM
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: EPICS online
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> hmmm, don't know much about those things...
>>> what makes a page use more bandwith?
>>
>>Pretty much anything that is not pure HTML/text Javascript causes the
>>browser to take more time to resolve a page, but doesn't actually take
>>much longer to download.
>>
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Just I want known how much, and for a good thing it´s good to me I don´t read the other players turn but that Doctor don´t appear so bad (just kidding), but for one minute I think in acting like Jean Paul that radio or boxe with voice for Jean Paul make him at begging scared but not so much because telephone is already made in his time but not in that size, by the way I lost all discution about epic stuff what´s happening? By the way the system is good very good.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

 >>about points in Dark Streets I known Jean Paul appear just for a few moments but he already receive points? Yes. After all, he has done everything he could in the short time he has appeared. I chose to wait to introduce him, and the player should not be penalized because of that. J. Scott Pittman
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No I don´t receive, it´s no problem but much players spent points and others no, just spend the points.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

 My tactics stay the same. Did you get my e-mail on my spending exp points?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:15 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: About Ages Tournament.
 By the way Mr.Military acept Johnny Invincible challenge? Tactis? Spend exp points?

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The last mail about Mr.Military say you lost him again, but in that day I send him again to you do you receive him back? And about Ages and manuvers, manuvers from Combatica and Arkon Compendium are good for me but if a new one appear I just want known for judge if is valid or not, regards Rinaldo Gambetta.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

 My tactics stay the same. Did you get my e-mail on my spending exp points?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:15 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: About Ages Tournament.
 By the way Mr.Military acept Johnny Invincible challenge? Tactis? Spend exp points?

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:25 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: About Ages Tournament.

The last mail about Mr.Military say you lost him again, but in that day I send him again to you do you receive him back? And about Ages and manuvers, manuvers from Combatica and Arkon Compendium are good for me but if a new one appear I just want known for judge if is valid or not, regards Rinaldo Gambetta.

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

 My tactics stay the same. Did you get my e-mail on my spending exp points?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:15 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: About Ages Tournament.
 By the way Mr.Military acept Johnny Invincible challenge? Tactis? Spend exp points?

"J. Scott Pittman" wrote:

Can we use maneuvers from other web pages, or just the official maneuvers
from the books?
Grr... this is why we need that "official rules" page....

Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] About Ages Tournament.

>I´m only make the end of Gateway tournament to start the Ages tournament
but
>I don´t throw to garbage the Gateway idea I just want make a more powerfull
>contest in this time, I want say to I´m now acept fighters to enter in Ages
>tournament, but I start this like Gateway when I have a good number of
>persons this a Rank 9 tournament and this a character pack to construction
>of fighters:
>
>tributes 10/8/6 (none higher than 7)
>Habilities 16/13/10 (none higher than 7)
>Techniques 25 (none higher than 7)
>Chi and Willpower: per style
>Initial Health 15
>Glory and Honor 15 (make a division for this ex: Glory 9 Honor 6)
>Special Manuvers 25
>Freebies 30
>Backgrounds 15 (none higher than 7)
>
>It´s valid spent freebies like normal initials the limitation is none of
>dots can pass 7 limit.
>This a initial pack for rank 9 fighters this like a new figther except
>he have more points to expent and more freebies make like a normal
>character in the beggining.
>
>What people think?
>
>Ages History:
>
>A much time ago a strange creature called Guardian travel the time and
>space to bring at his hide island some persons of courage and worth to a
>combat for the best thing of this world a full and without restrictions
>wish. This creature don´t tell his intentions but only have the power of
>time travel and teleport this isn´t a joke.
>Ps: No weapons here and after all I don´t have a full rule for Hybrids
>and Cyborgs rules because that I prefer let them out for this event,
>Elementals are in the game.
>
>
>
>
>
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I've never had a problem, but then I ditched the phone modem a long time ago
:)

I love the music on the later pages, but the one on the main page does get
tedious fast. Hell, I stay on the other pages just to hear the tunes!

Replying to J. Scott Pittman's request:

>I would like to ask for submissions for an official rules page.
>Thanks,
>J. Scott Pittman

Hi, I'm new here, but I've been playing this game since it first came out; however, I don't have any of the "New" rulebooks, just the original. I have downloaded most of the new Styles and Maneuvers I've found on the net, but I haven't experimented with any of them yet... anyway, you wanted rules suggestions, right? Okay, let's talk about Abort Maneuvers:

At first glance, it would appear that the only Abort Maneuvers are the Basic Maneuver Block and the Special Maneuver Jump... However, Kick Defense and Punch Defense are both described in the Special Maneuvers section of the original book (on pages 115-116) as follows: "This operates as a standard Block Maneuver, except that..." This STRONGLY suggests that Kick Defense and Punch Defense can be used as Abort Maneuvers, since the System description says that apart from the specific bonuses/penalties to your Soak, these Maneuvers are identical to the basic Block, which is an Abort Maneuver.

I have seen "House" rules that allow ANY Block Special Maneuver to be used as an Abort Maneuver, but I feel this is unrealistic... If someone points a gun at you and fires, can you Abort to Missile Reflection? Then again, Fireballs are unrealistic, and THEY'RE perfectly legal...

Anyway, I would suggest that Block, Jump, Kick Defense, and Punch Defense should ALL be valid Abort Maneuvers, and that no other Maneuvers from the original book should be given Abort Maneuver status. If an official rulebook or a webpage contains a Maneuver that "operates like a standard Block" (or Jump), it may be considered...

Furthermore, the rules state (on page 139) that "Basically, you can change any other action into an Abort Maneuver at any point during the combat turn." I choose to interpret this rule literally: AT ANY POINT DURING THE COMBAT TURN, even if you have already performed another Maneuver, you can spend 1 Willpower to Abort! The only exception, of course, is if you have already spent Willpower during that turn...

You may feel that this gives fast characters an unfair advantage: they can interrupt a slower opponent, roll Damage, and then Abort to a Block or Jump to minimize or negate the Damage of their opponent's attack. But that's how fast guys fight! And if a character abuses this rule, he/she will run out of Willpower pretty quickly...

And about Willpower expenditure... On page 106 it says: "If the fighter is interrupted and cannot perform his special move (victim moves out of range, fighter gets knocked down, etc.) he can always choose not to perform the special move and save his Chi and Willpower. Only when the move is actually performed does he have to spend that power's Chi and Willpower cost." It is vague as to what constitutes "performing a move."

First of all, it probably should say "Maneuver" instead of "move" to avoid confusion... Are they talking about Movement? I don't think so. I don't make characters spend Willpower until they actually complete their Movement AND roll Damage, at which point they have officially "performed" their Special Maneuver, regardless of whether or not the Damage roll is successful. However, this leads to another issue; if you are interrupted by a faster Maneuver, can you Abort to a Block or a Jump? I say YES, but ONLY if you agree that Willpower is only spent when Damage dice are rolled. That way, you haven't spent any Willpower yet and can therefore spend the point to Abort.

One more thing, which throws a monkey wrench in the works: On page 64, it says "Only one Willpower point can be spent during a single turn." However, some Special Maneuvers require 2 Willpower points! What's up with that??? Is there an Official Amendment for this rule? I've never really dealt with it; nobody my chronicles has ever had a Maneuver with such a high cost...

Gimme some feedback, folks!


Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com

Love to, but I just moved, and some stuff (like my notes!) got
trashed/thrown out/all around eviscerated...yup, that's why I haven't been
able to post lately, though some of it's still intact. It was a lost cause
anyway. Though streetfighters do kick ass and take names versus most of the
"weaker" generations of vampires in LARP, against most of the more powerful
ancillae and elders, they pale in comparison. Oh, BTW if you'd like to make
up your own stuff from books, here's a good hint:
1. Streetfighters are human. This means human limits in most regards (i.e.
Traits, abilities, backgrounds, etc.). If you want a good base to work off
of, use the Trait caps for Ghouls and/or Garou Kinfolk.
2. If you have an argument about whether or not Technique is viable for a
retest in live action, don't use it as a retest. It complicates a game
which is supposed to be simple at the outset. Relegate Technique to the
Style Background, a Background specifically designed for Streetfighters in
LARP. This way the Streetfighter is still advancing at a reasonable rate.
3. Health boxes start at four for a Streetfighter, which then can be bought
to the maximum of seven. This simulates the buying up of health boxes in
tabletop (it also shows how your character's getting that little bit
tougher, too).
4. NOBODY else can learn Streetfighters' Special Maneuvers. Learning
these things requires Chi. Because the streetfighter uses Chi in specific
ways, it's pretty much static. Gnosis, Mana, Glamour, etc., even the Chi
gathered by the Kuei-Jin work on different levels. They don't, by any
means, substitute for the Chi that the Streetfighter uses. A leech or puppy
can learn the rudiments of a fighting style but will never be able to
accomplish a Special Maneuver.
5. Once a Streetfighter is embraced (or goes under a First Change, however
unlikely that is...heh...a Streetfighting Theurge is kinda funny...) he
immediately loses all Chi and cannot perform a Chi-based Special Maneuver
again. Ever. Obviously, this is devastating to elementalists. Should he
undergo a First Change, his Chi pool is instead cut in half and is now
called Gnosis. What happens to Animal Hybrids who undergo their First
Changes? Ick...
6. What about Willpower-based Special Maneuvers? Well, you CAN keep them,
but do you really want to be hitting somebody with a Hyper Fist when you can
just burn for Celerity and smack them with Puissance? (Quick, everyone,
name my favourite Vamp Clan!) Besides, with all of the other uses for
Willpower (such as healing agg.) and with the rate that it comes back (1
point per week - real time here.) you might want to be a little choosy about
what you do with your Willpower.
7. Merits and Flaws, while not entirely inappropriate, should be left up
to the Storyteller's discretion. Keep that Slip Sideways or Misplaced Heart
to yourself. Eat Food is decidedly lame at this point...
8. Special Maneuvers are yours to play with, though here's a few I came up
with in conjunction with my collaborator, Tom.

DRAGON PUNCH
Win all ties, add the bonus Traits Ferocious x2, Brawny x2, Brutal x3. Does
2 points of Lethal Damage. Cost 1 Willpower.

REKKA KEN
The ability to pre-empt an opponent's attack with one of your punches.
Usable only three times a combat round. Cost 1 Willpower per punch.

HYPER FIST, 100 HAND SLAP, LIGHTNING LEG
All the same. 1 Willpower point for three attacks in a combat round.

That's about it, tho. Have fun!

P.S.
Chi-based flame attacks kick ass!

>From: Francis Black <new_pain@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Street fighter LARP
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:03:19 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>
>
>--- Chris Krug-Iron <inrifrost@...> wrote:
> >
> > Tried it in a Vampire game...kicked some ass for a
> > while, then got
> > embraced...killed myself shortly thereafter.
> > Fitting for a StreetFighter, I
> > figured.
> >
> Chris do you think you could send me the rules you
>were using, it would be a big help
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