Ok Ill try to explain the way I do it best I can. Now supposedly SF and SF2
for the game are both tournaments. The SFA to SFA3 series are meets. non
tournament based. I base my storys around that idea.
Ther are places that hold tournaments but majority of the time the characters
are trying to attain their goals. Tournament can play a big part in the way the
SF2 tournament did for characters like chun li and Guile. They entered cause
Bison was there.
If your characters want to gain ranks as street fighters then tournaments are
good Ideas. but if characters dont have the proper info or are not part of the
grape vine
it''ll be harder for them to enter these tournaments. Especially in North
America.

You can use tournaments every once in a while as ways of finding people or clues
if characters dont like to many tournaments. Simply cause the characters dont
like the tournaments doesnt mean the NPC's dont.

Ahh does your story have an over all plot?

"Morgado, Mike" wrote:

> In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you
> have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are divided.
> Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not to
> have them and just have adventures without them.
>
> Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on
> again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry.
>
> So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to
> make a page of links to street fighters webpages.
>
> I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has any
> fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the
> video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way.
>
> Thanks
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Hey

Right I agree.
Wins and loss's are sort of like honour in my game. Its still noted even if
people arnt watching but only if its a street fight or tournament. Practices
between characters dont count.
I also have people come up to the street fighters and issue a challange. Thats
how my players distinguish a street fight from a a bunch of thugs attacking
them.


Christian Conkle wrote:

> I try to provide a good mix of tournaments and martial arts-movie mayhem. We
> only use the ranking system as sort of an abstracted level system, there is
> no central "Street Fighter" circuit keeping track of official wins-losses.
> As such, many fights that wouldn't be considered "rankable" fights are
> listed in the win-loss record. Any fight where one fighter is challenged by
> another and a turn or two is given to prepare is recorded as a win or a
> loss. Fights with thugs and cops don't count, but the fight with the thug's
> boss (who steps down from his crate and takes his shirt off before the
> fight) would be recorded.
>
> Besides, it's not called "Tournament Fighter", it's called "STREET Fighter"
> so the battles should be fairly impromptu, informal, and happen on the
> STREET (or tarmack, or Great Wall of China, or rail yard, or Roman Coliseum,
> whatever).
>
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(Grin) Its why I asked. I was curious about how many people that play the
game take MA. Do you Story tell Chris or are you a player?

Chris Nelson wrote:

> I'm specialized in 'charge down 2 seconds, up + kick'-Fu
>
> For whoever's counting... figured someone needed to get on & point out
> we aren't all taking martial arts. =)
> -Laters!
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Hmmm .....not quite. Your time is spent moving and when you practice push
hands your time is spent reacting. A person reacts slow because he becomes
confused. A tai chi'st would react quite well actully, because of the slow
movments. Their done slow, so the person remains calm. Usually. But if you
mean
striking, hitting and such I cant say for sure.
Besides speed isnt a big thing in martial arts anyway. Its important but not
that
important.


Will Dixon wrote:

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> under the misconception that slow practice will lead to lightning fast
> reactions and returns. Well I've got news for them, If you practice
> slow, you will react slowly, because that's what all of your time is
> spent doing. I think that Tai Chi is an excellent form of excercise,
> especially in later years, but you have to be damn good to make it half
> as effective as a martial art.
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(Laugh)

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 Top ten reasons for learning Capoeria 1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever3 two words: Rolling Attack4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks5 two more words: Beast Roll6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end8 there is no #89 Brazilian chicks are hot10 Elena is hot -----Original Message-----
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 8:16 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?
 

>Finding a capoeira school in the US is a bit tricky. I know that there's  >one >in Chicago, but your best bet is to look it up on the internet. Iknow that >there's a capoeira database out there. Why on earth would anyone want to learn Capoeira anyway? Dennis ______________________________________________________

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Hrmmm Im still tellin ya. That would be one messed up fight.

Well except in the third alien movie.(If your being sacastic Im sorry, I deserve
one of slpstck's boot to the head) where newt and hicks are dead.

They eat sand and glass???

Christian Conkle wrote:

> I think the hive mind is assumed, and it may have been posited in one of the
> Dark Horse comics, which have gone pretty far afield on occasion. I mean, we
> ALL know the older Hicks and Newt get stuck on a ship full of Aliens only to
> be rescued by the older Ripley, right? And the comics and the movies and the
> Aliens:RPG (which is one of the few games I think absolutely sucks, despite
> some interesting Alien biology theories) all sync perfectly without
> contradiction, right?
>
> Personally, I like the hive mind, and the telepathic nature of the Aliens,
> and the theory that they eat sand and glass and act as living batteries,
> that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean it's canon.
>
> Of course, the whole purpose and intent of this original thread was to
> generate some stats for an Alien or Alien-like Xenomorph that a trained
> Street Fighter with fireballs and iceblasts and Yoga Teleports could take on
> in a "Bloodsport-in-Space" story in an alien Space Station arena.
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Hmmmm. Im not sure my self. Im going on everyone else's speech assuming
its true. Thats a good question... When did they ever state the hive minded
theory in
any alien source?

Kristofer Lundström wrote:

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> >>Unfortunately.. I cant buy the hive mentality bit completely.
> >>because there have been many occasions when the hive had nothing to do
> >>with the creatures reactions.
> >>The very first Alien movie was "Alien".
> >>As in 1 creature.
> >
> >In creatures which function as a hive(like bees) generally the first
> >creature in an area which does not allready have a Queen becomes the queen
> >itself. Therefore, since the alien in "Alien" was the first one in the
> >area, it probably was a queen & therefore would think for itself. This
> >also
> >happened in Aliens:genocide.
> >
>
> I really know roughly dick about Aliens but I'm curious, is the hive mind
> thing a fact (printed in an Alien book or whatever) or do we simply assume
> there is a hivemind 'cos there's a queen, lotsa drones and that they appear
> about as gentle and nice as wasps?
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> Just curious...
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Yah I found it a bit odd the way that characters participate afterwards...style
thing.
but in the high stakes episode that could be plausable casue its in vegas.
generally I think the higer ranking fighters would recognize who is a challange
and who isnt. If ryu see's a fight and there all rank 1 fighter's Im pretty sure
he would decline.

The one thing i try to keep in mind is NOT to make all the fights the
characters go to their exact level. It seems to flukish . PLAYER: Oh. By chance
these guys are our exact level! Yeah right and this is the 13th tournament we've
gone to. Wht is this crap!!
So if players get better and go to a tournament they've gone to before tey will
find
that the people in the tournament are of a lower level(Like where they were
then.)
but of course things might change so....

An interesting idea for a story would be a High ranking SFer who beats lower
ranking SFers at lower ranking SFer tournaments for score.

The official body thing doesnt bother me. It sort of explains Sakura almost.

My first chronicle involved players building them selves up before they did any
tournaments.

I myself have two troupes of players. One group is trying to infiltrate
Shadoloo.
The other is simply trying to improve themselves but have been causght up in
local matters and a sociopath who goes around challanging other SFer's to death
match's.


Kristofer Lundström wrote:

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> I went with the style of tournaments in "High Stakes", although I have
> partially regretted it.
>
> * A formal ranking system, maintained by managers and enthusiasts. There's a
> dozen homepages which keep track of all the official fighters, their
> standing, plus some basic facts.
>
> * Tournaments being held in slightly formal way, varying in size from "Ok,
> I'll kick your ass outside, when I've finished this beer" to "And Balrog
> will show up and beat Zangief, directly after the Veteran fights, the
> Seasoned brawls and the Freshmen's melees... i.e. in three days". The type
> that have mattered most in my Chronicle seems to have been those arranged by
> jaded rich millionaires or Shadoloo (to keep their fighters sharp or to act
> as a diversion).
>
> * If the boss steps down and rips off his shirt, that's *not* a rankable
> fight. The figth must be announced and there should be some sort of
> audience. Mind you, I don't follow those rules either...
>
> That's how I've been playing, and I'm sure it's not the best way.
>
> Yes, and to those new, and to those who aren't but have forgotten (or
> repressed), I have three troupes:
>
> * Group A boots Shadoloo a lot and fight for rank very little.
> * Group 2 attend tournaments 2/3 of the stories, and boot Shadoloo during
> the breaks.
> * Group III spends most of their time running for their lives, mainly from
> Shadoloo but also from Gen, triads, Shao Kahn... A little tournament though,
> on the side.
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?????????????????

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Yup, you got my, Huh.

SlpStck@... wrote:

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> kri5tofer@... writes:
>
> << And by the way...
>
> Seems like someone out there has GOT THE HOTS FOR DEATH (spoken with the
> warmth and colour of iceberg).
>
> Kristofer ;) >>
> i think/hope i speak for every one else when i say, HUH????
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Heh heh.
Ok
Real capoeria also teach's something called mecaculeilei(I beleive thats
spelt right)
which is Machete fighting. but they use sticks.

The music in capoeria is meant to hide the form, but can abe used to give
the fighter
rhythm.
For those interested in take downs ..capoeria has quite a few.
The hands are hardly ever used but there are exceptions to that as well.


Dennis Bryant wrote:

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> >1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents
> >2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever
> >3 two words: Rolling Attack
> >4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks
> >5 two more words: Beast Roll
> >6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move
> >7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end
> >8 there is no #8
> >9 Brazilian chicks are hot
> >10 Elena is hot
>
> I meant real capoeria.
>
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(Laugh)

Hmm as for the second bit about getting serious....
Terms are terms. If you learned something are you gonna dump it.
Its all in the manner you use it though, right.


Ryan M Rich wrote:

> Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken fighters, after a
> real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in some Playstation
> magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to get camera and
> computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy doing Capoeira here
> in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is very unusual to defend
> against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating and an odd picture)
> putting kicks right past the head of a friend of mine at a party. I was
> leaning on the car with J.R.
>
> 11: Handstands are cool.
> 12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance
> 13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering dance really.)
> 14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your ass
> 8: Hot chicks! Hot pants!
> 15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba,
>
> Sorry for this
>
> This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of you use
> Martial arts terms like you really learned something from a martial
> artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites. Even half jokingly (or
> obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish and if so many of us
> have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out styles, come on be real.
> Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does not a martial artist
> make.
> I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have seen
> Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and other martial artists
> in action. I've also been in a tournament. Sounds impressive, wow! But I
> took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem most of these
> masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack (and most of us do
> too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting methods. And how many
> of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of a few of the more
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Way to go nipper!

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 I was being obviously sarcastic.  Personally I don't believe any stylist should be insulted for the style he practices (unless it's TKD... just kidding :) and while real-life experience in the arts can make your SF game more real for your players, it's about as necessary as knowing exactly how a Whirlwind Kick is performed.  Don't forget that this mailing list is for Street Fighter first and foremost, an RPG based in a *fantasy* martial arts setting.  I may never have seen a Thai kickboxer compete in person, but I've seen enough anime to know how it *could* look in a make-believe world, and that's enough for me. nipper of flame-wars' buds,Steve -----Original Message-----
From: Ryan M Rich <leonardsmalls@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:18 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?
 

Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken fighters, after a real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in some Playstation magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to get camera and computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy doing Capoeira here in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is very unusual to defend against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating and an odd picture) putting kicks right past the head of a friend of mine at a party. I was leaning on the car with J.R.         11: Handstands are cool.         12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance         13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering dance really.)         14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your ass         8: Hot chicks! Hot pants!         15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba,  Sorry for this         This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of you use Martial arts terms like you really learned something from a martial artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites. Even half jokingly (or obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish and if so many of us have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out styles, come on be real. Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does not a martial artist make.         I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have seen Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and other martial artists in action. I've also been  in a tournament. Sounds impressive, wow! But I took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem most of these masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack (and most of us do too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting methods. And how many of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of a few of the more esoteric or small styles out there 'til searching for Street Fighter stuff. On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:55:45 PDT "Dennis Bryant" <dl_bryant@...> writes: >>1 prancing about in a Jinga will amuse your opponents >>2 Eddy Gordo does it, and he's the coolest Tekken button-masher ever >>3 two words: Rolling Attack >>4 Blanka does it, and Blanka rocks >>5 two more words: Beast Roll >>6 many more words: Musical Accompaniment gives your Grabs a Two Move >>7 keeping your music playing during combat annoys everyone to no end >>8 there is no #8 >>9 Brazilian chicks are hot >>10 Elena is hot > >I meant real capoeria. > >Dennis > > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >BrainPlay.com has all of your favorite Star Wars action figures, >toys, video games and more. See details inside on how to receive a  >FREE Star Wars Action Figure! &ldquo;Feel the Force&rdquo; today with  >BrainPlay.com at: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/321 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Hey you wrote it.... spill it.
Cant keep us hanging like this now.

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> > warmth and colour of iceberg).
> >
> > Kristofer ;) >>
> >
> >i think/hope i speak for every one else when i say, HUH????
> >
> >
> >What the hell is that about?
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> >Dennis
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> Er... well... u'see... nevermind.
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Are you korean your self?

Eric Thayer wrote:

> Hear! Hear!
> And don't worry, I don't see TKD as the most divine art in the world. It was
> simply the most readily available in my area, and my Stepfather had his
> spiritual revelations while living in Korea so it was his art of choice to
> place me in. TKD taught me discipline, it also taught me that discipline
> without reason is the ideaology of a cockroach - or an alien. "Ours is not
> to question why" -my ass.
>
> -Kirtan
>
> >From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Martial Arts?
> >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:03:28 -0400
> >
> >I was being obviously sarcastic. Personally I don't believe any stylist
> >should be insulted for the style he practices (unless it's TKD... just
> >kidding :) and while real-life experience in the arts can make your SF game
> >more real for your players, it's about as necessary as knowing exactly how
> >a Whirlwind Kick is performed. Don't forget that this mailing list is for
> >Street Fighter first and foremost, an RPG based in a *fantasy* martial arts
> >setting. I may never have seen a Thai kickboxer compete in person, but
> >I've seen enough anime to know how it *could* look in a make-believe world,
> >and that's enough for me.
> >
> >nipper of flame-wars' buds,
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Tom,

First of all, no I'm not Korean in any way shape or form. I'm of Anglo-Saxon
descent. (Does Eric Thayer sound remotely Korean to anyone?) Secondly, and
most importantly YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERY MESSAGE ON THIS E-GROUP
INDIVIDUALLY!!!
I received 22 new messages this morning- All from you. Half of them had the
same heading. That's utterly fucking ridiculous. Now I don't mean to be an
asshole or anything but in the future could you do us all a favor and
respond to multiple messages in a single message (if of course you feel the
need to respond at all, which not all of us always do).

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Yes, please use common sense and restraint in replying to messages..

(1) Do they really need a reply? If the reply is "Me to." or only one line,
then probably no.

(2) Please edit the original post to only what is relevant.

To be honest, after the first 2 or 3 messages, I just went through and
deleted all of your messages without reading them, sorry.

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On Friday, June 04, 1999 5:38 AM, Eric Thayer [SMTP:lord_kirtan@...]
wrote:

> Tom,

>Secondly, and
> most importantly YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERY MESSAGE ON THIS

E-GROUP

> INDIVIDUALLY!!!
> I received 22 new messages this morning- All from you. Half of them had

the

> same heading.

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Quoth the Aliens Adventure Game, page 90:

The metabolism of the alien is just as unusual as its reproductive cycle, as
might be expected. The skin is composed of polarized silica and provides
remarkable protection from environmental extremes as well as impact.

In addition to these oddities, they do not have constant cellular activity,
like mammals, and consequently do not generate body heat and do not show up
on infrared sensors.

There internal energy is electrical in nature, and is "circulated" via the
devastating Acid which is their blood. The Acid is highly conductive, and
the molecules are ideal for energy storage and transportation. This process
is similar to that used in automobile batteries and other small electrical
storage devices.

...

Aliens are even capable of surviving by simply being close to high levels of
electrical power. For example, current moving in a power line induces a
current in an antenna. This kind of current supplies enough power for an
Alien to survive in dormancy, and to recharge slowly while inactive.
Because of thes affect, Aliens are attracted to machinery of Humanity,; in a
way, it "smells" good to them.

These sources of "food" make the Alien a creature of incredible endurance.
It eats dirt and water to reach the adult stage, and once mature can survive
on the energy generated by a light breeze.

...

:End Quoth

It goes on some more.

It was the only interesting thing about this game. The rules are atrocious.
The world information is apocryphal. The characters are limited and
uninteresting. Just a bad game. Their Alien theories, however, were cool.

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Sent: 6/3/99 9:23 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Aliens

Hrmmm Im still tellin ya. That would be one messed up fight.

Well except in the third alien movie.(If your being sacastic Im sorry, I
deserve
one of slpstck's boot to the head) where newt and hicks are dead.

They eat sand and glass???

Christian Conkle wrote:

> I think the hive mind is assumed, and it may have been posited in one

of the

> Dark Horse comics, which have gone pretty far afield on occasion. I

mean, we

> ALL know the older Hicks and Newt get stuck on a ship full of Aliens

only to

> be rescued by the older Ripley, right? And the comics and the movies

and the

> Aliens:RPG (which is one of the few games I think absolutely sucks,

despite

> some interesting Alien biology theories) all sync perfectly without
> contradiction, right?
>
> Personally, I like the hive mind, and the telepathic nature of the

Aliens,

> and the theory that they eat sand and glass and act as living

batteries,

> that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean it's canon.
>
> Of course, the whole purpose and intent of this original thread was to
> generate some stats for an Alien or Alien-like Xenomorph that a

trained

> Street Fighter with fireballs and iceblasts and Yoga Teleports could

take on

> in a "Bloodsport-in-Space" story in an alien Space Station arena.
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Well first Eric, my name is Rob(I dont expect you to know that).

As for your name ....So....
I asked because you said your dad was their once. what does your last name have
to do with you being korean or not?

As for the responding....hmm. I didnt know about that. all my messages are being
mailed to Streetfighter@egroups.com..
So they simply get sent to people.


Eric Thayer wrote:

> Tom,
>
> First of all, no I'm not Korean in any way shape or form. I'm of Anglo-Saxon
> descent. (Does Eric Thayer sound remotely Korean to anyone?) Secondly, and
> most importantly YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERY MESSAGE ON THIS E-GROUP
> INDIVIDUALLY!!!
> I received 22 new messages this morning- All from you. Half of them had the
> same heading. That's utterly fucking ridiculous. Now I don't mean to be an
> asshole or anything but in the future could you do us all a favor and
> respond to multiple messages in a single message (if of course you feel the
> need to respond at all, which not all of us always do).
>
> Thanks,
> Kirtan
>
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Hmmmm ok.. well just to add to here as well I didnt respond to all the messages
I got. I went down them one by one and answered some of them.. discarding
others.
All the messages I answeed were new to me.
Ill try to avoid it in the future though.

Christian Conkle wrote:

> Yes, please use common sense and restraint in replying to messages..
>
> (1) Do they really need a reply? If the reply is "Me to." or only one line,
> then probably no.
>
> (2) Please edit the original post to only what is relevant.
>
> To be honest, after the first 2 or 3 messages, I just went through and
> deleted all of your messages without reading them, sorry.
>
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>
> work: conklec@...
> home: conkle@...
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> On Friday, June 04, 1999 5:38 AM, Eric Thayer [SMTP:lord_kirtan@...]
> wrote:
> > Tom,
>
> >Secondly, and
> > most importantly YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERY MESSAGE ON THIS
> E-GROUP
> > INDIVIDUALLY!!!
> > I received 22 new messages this morning- All from you. Half of them had
> the
> > same heading.
>
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I have just posted a Storyteller System Dice Mechanic Statistical Analysis that displays the percentage chance of beating a specific difficulty by throwing a specific number of dice at Street Fighter Ultra (http://members.xoom.com/evilschemer/sfighter). Also included is the average number of successes rolled (taking 1's into account) at various dice vs. difficulties. The chart compares all the difficulties from 1 (autmatic) to 10 (very difficult) vs. 1 (poor) to 13 (superhuman) dice thrown. Hmm, come to think of it, it is within the realm of game mechanic possibility that someone could throw up to 16 dice or more (8 stat + 8 skill + more from maneuvers). Oh well, 13 is a pretty good upper limit, I think. ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@... home: conkle@... -----------------------------------------------------

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Hey Dennis > >Dennis Bryant wrote: > > > > > Cool, I used to do sword traning, but it was with medievil weapons, not > > > fencing swords. > > > >Medievil?? On your own or at a school? > Through private clubs. Starting with ratan practice swords. You mean like Kendo and such, right? > > > > Yeah, some, but I focus mainly on the Japanese styles. > > > >Oh yeah? How come not others? > > Well, I'm a devoted Shotokan Karateka, so it's more practicle for me to > focus on related styles. I do know a bit about most martial arts, but most > of it just comes from fighting against them(quite a lot). Yah I agree. ??You fight against other styles alot?

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On Friday, June 04, 1999 9:26 AM, Steve Karstensen
[SMTP:skarsten@...] wrote:

>
> maximum amount of throwable dice;
>
> 8 maximum Strength + 8 maximum Technique + 7 (highest special maneuver

damage bonus) - 1 minimum Stamina (soak) = 22.

YEEK!!!

The poor Soak 1 recipient of that roll would be TOAST!!! They would take,
on average, 8.8 damage!! Serve's 'em right for taking on the strongest
person in the world who also happens to be the the absolute best
kicker/puncher in the world, who ALSO happens to know the most damaging
maneuver in the world.

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Ok Ill try to explain the way I do it best I can. Now supposedly SF and SF2 for the game are both tournaments. The SFA to SFA3 series are meets. non tournament based. I base my storys around that idea. Ther are places that hold tournaments but majority of the time the characters are trying to attain their goals. Tournament can play a big part in the way the SF2 tournament did for characters like chun li and Guile. They entered cause Bison was there. If your characters want to gain ranks as street fighters then tournaments are good Ideas. but if characters dont have the proper info or are not part of the grape vine it''ll be harder for them to enter these tournaments. Especially in North America. You can use tournaments every once in a while as ways of finding people or clues if characters dont like to many tournaments. Simply cause the characters dont like the tournaments doesnt mean the NPC's dont. Ahh does your story have an over all plot? "Morgado, Mike" wrote: > In your adventures and campaigns, do tournaments play a big part? Do you > have tournaments at all? Im just curious because my players are divided. > Half the group loves the tournaments, and the other half would prefer not to > have them and just have adventures without them. > > Also, the Street Figher Mailing List Home Page is now being worked on > again...I FINALLY have some free time...YAY!!!! *ahem* sorry. > > So....anyone with SF webpages, can you send me the urls? I would like to > make a page of links to street fighters webpages. > > I would also like to put up a SF STG Fan fiction page...so if anyone has any > fan fiction based on the SF world (not necesarily the characters from the > video games) and wouldnt mind me posting it, just send it my way. > > Thanks > > MikeM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups Spotlight: > "For retired military and dependents" - Talk about customs, > traditions, services information for retirees and retirement living. > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/329 > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

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Hmmm .....not quite. Your time is spent moving and when you practice push hands your time is spent reacting. A person reacts slow because he becomes confused. A tai chi'st would react quite well actully, because of the slow movments. Their done slow, so the person remains calm. Usually. But if you mean striking, hitting and such I cant say for sure. Besides speed isnt a big thing in martial arts anyway. Its important but not that important. Will Dixon wrote: > Tai Chi has a lot of bullshit surrounding it. A lot of people are > under the misconception that slow practice will lead to lightning fast > reactions and returns. Well I've got news for them, If you practice > slow, you will react slowly, because that's what all of your time is > spent doing. I think that Tai Chi is an excellent form of excercise, > especially in later years, but you have to be damn good to make it half > as effective as a martial art. >

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Yah I found it a bit odd the way that characters participate afterwards...style thing. but in the high stakes episode that could be plausable casue its in vegas. generally I think the higer ranking fighters would recognize who is a challange and who isnt. If ryu see's a fight and there all rank 1 fighter's Im pretty sure he would decline. The one thing i try to keep in mind is NOT to make all the fights the characters go to their exact level. It seems to flukish . PLAYER: Oh. By chance these guys are our exact level! Yeah right and this is the 13th tournament we've gone to. Wht is this crap!! So if players get better and go to a tournament they've gone to before tey will find that the people in the tournament are of a lower level(Like where they were then.) but of course things might change so.... An interesting idea for a story would be a High ranking SFer who beats lower ranking SFers at lower ranking SFer tournaments for score. The official body thing doesnt bother me. It sort of explains Sakura almost. My first chronicle involved players building them selves up before they did any tournaments. I myself have two troupes of players. One group is trying to infiltrate Shadoloo. The other is simply trying to improve themselves but have been causght up in local matters and a sociopath who goes around challanging other SFer's to death match's. Kristofer Lundström wrote: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I went with the style of tournaments in "High Stakes", although I have > partially regretted it. > > * A formal ranking system, maintained by managers and enthusiasts. There's a > dozen homepages which keep track of all the official fighters, their > standing, plus some basic facts. > > * Tournaments being held in slightly formal way, varying in size from "Ok, > I'll kick your ass outside, when I've finished this beer" to "And Balrog > will show up and beat Zangief, directly after the Veteran fights, the > Seasoned brawls and the Freshmen's melees... i.e. in three days". The type > that have mattered most in my Chronicle seems to have been those arranged by > jaded rich millionaires or Shadoloo (to keep their fighters sharp or to act > as a diversion). > > * If the boss steps down and rips off his shirt, that's *not* a rankable > fight. The figth must be announced and there should be some sort of > audience. Mind you, I don't follow those rules either... > > That's how I've been playing, and I'm sure it's not the best way. > > Yes, and to those new, and to those who aren't but have forgotten (or > repressed), I have three troupes: > > * Group A boots Shadoloo a lot and fight for rank very little. > * Group 2 attend tournaments 2/3 of the stories, and boot Shadoloo during > the breaks. > * Group III spends most of their time running for their lives, mainly from > Shadoloo but also from Gen, triads, Shao Kahn... A little tournament though, > on the side. >

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(Laugh) Hmm as for the second bit about getting serious.... Terms are terms. If you learned something are you gonna dump it. Its all in the manner you use it though, right. Ryan M Rich wrote: > Eddy Gordo was modelled ,like many other Tekken fighters, after a > real capoeirist. In an interview with the guy in some Playstation > magazine, he discussed positions he had to hold to get camera and > computer shots. It was pretty cool, and I saw a guy doing Capoeira here > in San Carlos Park, walking on his hands (which is very unusual to defend > against I'd say, Its a cross between an intimidating and an odd picture) > putting kicks right past the head of a friend of mine at a party. I was > leaning on the car with J.R. > > 11: Handstands are cool. > 12: Unexpected, intimidating, wierd looking stance > 13: a real jinga (its an evasion and bewildering dance really.) > 14: In the game mutants and ballerinas kick your ass > 8: Hot chicks! Hot pants! > 15: Salsa, Livin' la Vida Loca, Marimba, > > Sorry for this > > This is a discussion on Street Fighter and most of you use > Martial arts terms like you really learned something from a martial > artist, not game supplements and crapE web sites. Even half jokingly (or > obliviously) looking for a Leap school is foolish and if so many of us > have learned Capoeira and a 'few' other way out styles, come on be real. > Taking 1-5 years of Tae Kwon Do, Karate or Judo does not a martial artist > make. > I mean I can talk that I took Judo, Karate and have seen > Capoeirists, Karatekas, Thai Boxers, Sumotori and other martial artists > in action. I've also been in a tournament. Sounds impressive, wow! But I > took judo for a while, karate for even less and seem most of these > masters on TV, some in person. But I still know jack (and most of us do > too) about thier spiritual side and actual fighting methods. And how many > of us have seen a Savateur, or even had knowledge of a few of the more > esoteric or small styles out there 'til searching for Street Fighter > stuff.

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Tom, First of all, no I'm not Korean in any way shape or form. I'm of Anglo-Saxon descent. (Does Eric Thayer sound remotely Korean to anyone?) Secondly, and most importantly YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO EVERY MESSAGE ON THIS E-GROUP INDIVIDUALLY!!! I received 22 new messages this morning- All from you. Half of them had the same heading. That's utterly fucking ridiculous. Now I don't mean to be an asshole or anything but in the future could you do us all a favor and respond to multiple messages in a single message (if of course you feel the need to respond at all, which not all of us always do). Thanks, Kirtan _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

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On Friday, June 04, 1999 9:26 AM, Steve Karstensen [SMTP:skarsten@...] wrote: > > maximum amount of throwable dice; > > 8 maximum Strength + 8 maximum Technique + 7 (highest special maneuver damage bonus) - 1 minimum Stamina (soak) = 22. YEEK!!! The poor Soak 1 recipient of that roll would be TOAST!!! They would take, on average, 8.8 damage!! Serve's 'em right for taking on the strongest person in the world who also happens to be the the absolute best kicker/puncher in the world, who ALSO happens to know the most damaging maneuver in the world. ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@... home: conkle@... -----------------------------------------------------

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Sorry about the name thing. I know it was sort of presumptuous and doesn't
necessarily make a difference, but I had said my stepfather not my father. I
apologize for my hostility. I was just in a bad mood and waiting for some
e-mail which I didn't receive but instead got 22 messages from the same
person..

-Kirtan

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Mail Conservation
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:44:24 -0400
>
>Eric:
>
>my best friend is Korean, and her first name is Hebrew and her last name
>Chinese. So no, we can't judge anyone by their name alone. My girlfriend,
>for example, goes by Nancy, but her 'real' name is Hui.
>
>Considering how little traffic this list gets, I don't have a problem with
>Tom's volume, although I do agree that he should refrain from one-liners if
>he's going to respond.
>
>Can we all be a little more civil? If not, there's an honorable way to
>settle these disputes. Get in the ring and duke it out, boys! And let me
>be the first to say that my boot-head-fu beats your boot-head-fu. so
>there. :p
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>Hey.
>
>Nope no comment there.

Hey, here's an idea, if you don't have a comment, how a bout you don't post
your non comment. It just fills the list with spam.

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