--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:

> > Any thoughts on how to make Ler Drit 'honorable', aside from
> > ditching
> > things like Mind Control, Psychic Rage, etc.?
>
> Flying Punch is dishonorable - if you someone in the back with it.
> Otherwise, just don't use the power for evil. Of course, the energy
> attacks of Pscyho-Power may be inherently evil.
> I'd start picking up a secondary martial art form, one with a

different

> philosophy of energy. Maybe in that way, you could use a different
> "energy" for your maneuvers.
>
> Tony

Yeah, I was thinking, in Cross' own mind, he's not so keen on
developing Psycho Power... so I also switched the Willpower and Chi
stats for normal Ler Drit. As for Flying Punch, I kept it in the
style, since it's not dishonorable when you use it to smack someone
from the front, as you said. Psycho Crusher I kept, since it doesn't
say it's dishonorable, and I wanted to keep SOME of the original
flavor of Ler Drit (as Ler Drit is the only style that can learn it,
other than JKD).

Heard about that, too... basically, the concept is the same, just
change the energy... 'corrupt chi' to 'evil chi', so to speak.
Reminds me of a story concept I had... where the worlds' chi source
was corrupted, so Street Fighters could not use any Chi or powers
that used Chi without acquiring negative Honor. The story would have
the PCs attempting to find out HOW someone could do this to the
entire chi energies of the world!

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Thomas Merton" <thehurtin@h...> wrote:
>
> Someone on the list had a system that indicated Rose's "Soul Power"
was the
> counterpart to Psycho Power. It's possible you can modify his
maneuvers to
> resemble Rose's.
>
> The Hurtin'
>
>
> > > Any thoughts on how to make Ler Drit 'honorable', aside from
> > > ditching
> > > things like Mind Control, Psychic Rage, etc.?
> >
> >Flying Punch is dishonorable - if you someone in the back with it.
> >Otherwise, just don't use the power for evil. Of course, the energy
> >attacks of Pscyho-Power may be inherently evil.
> >I'd start picking up a secondary martial art form, one with a
different
> >philosophy of energy. Maybe in that way, you could use a different
> >"energy" for your maneuvers.
> >
> >
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Well, you know it may be a good plot device if the power is still evil, but
Cross uses it to do good. Also use Kabbagi to cross over with Ler Drit
because it is the basic energy style besides Ler Drit. Take time to convert
evil psycho power to pure innocent chi. And keep psychic rage, after all
dhalsim has it. think about it.

The warmaster!
Abbadon

Next version of the script is out.
No biggie, just fixed a problem with Dim Mak and added a readme.

Keep on the look out for problems with how it calculates stuff and
report any bugs to me.

You can find it in Files>Matt's
or at Matt's Conversion Page in the bookmarks.

Hey Chris (and all)
I added a pic of that hottie akuma girl to the list (the one from the
poll), there in the folder Files>Matt's>Pics>

Also a pic of my boxer.

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
>
> --- throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > lol,
> > He just plays her because he's also an artist, so he plays hot
chicks
> > so he has an excuse to draw them.
>
> Ah, well that makes it almost okay. Posting the finished pictures
to the list
> (or just to me) will finish the job.
>

Well I receive it and I just need more folks to start.

----- Original Message -----
From: erik justiniano <eriklee1977@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> Dear Rinaldo:
>
> Here is my character for your tournament:
>
> Name: Alex Durden Style: Special Forces
>
> ATRIBUTES:
> Str. 3, Dext. 4, Stam. 4; Cha. 1, Man. 2, App.3; Per.3, Int. 3, Wits 4
> ABILITIES:
> Alertness 2 Insight 1 Intimidation 2 Stealth 2 Subterfuge 2; Blind
Fighting
> 2 Drive 1 Security 1 Style Lore 1 Survival 1; Arena 1
> Medicine 1 Demolitions 1 and Linguistics 1 (Japanese).
> TECHNIQUES:
> Punch 3, Kick 3, Athletics 2
> SPECIAL MANEUVERS:
> Flying Knee Thrust (1), Spinning Back Fist(1), Suplex(1), Knee Basher(2),
> Jump(1) and a *COMBO* (1): Flying Knee Thrust to Knee Basher.
> Health: 10 Glory: 2 Honor: 1
>
>
> I will more info baout him later...
>
> >From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
> >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:48:05 -0200
> >
> >Alright, this the system a simple rank 1 character like the main book
> >rules, of
> >course a net style could be but I nee see it first, just send the
character
> >for
> >my e-mail, and I will reply.
> >
>
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Guys:
Ler Drit is a Martial Arts style, just as Kung Fu, Special Forces or Karate.
What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco Power... just as Akuma makes
Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark purposes, of course).

>=-)


>From: anton_figueroa@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Honorable Ler Drit?
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:47:48 -0500
>
> > Any thoughts on how to make Ler Drit 'honorable', aside from
> > ditching
> > things like Mind Control, Psychic Rage, etc.?
>
>Flying Punch is dishonorable - if you someone in the back with it.
>Otherwise, just don't use the power for evil. Of course, the energy
>attacks of Pscyho-Power may be inherently evil.
>I'd start picking up a secondary martial art form, one with a different
>philosophy of energy. Maybe in that way, you could use a different
>"energy" for your maneuvers.
>
>Tony

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> --- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> > > Any thoughts on how to make Ler Drit 'honorable',

aside from

> > > ditching
> > > things like Mind Control, Psychic Rage, etc.?
> >
> > Flying Punch is dishonorable - if you someone in the

back with it.

> > Otherwise, just don't use the power for evil. Of

course, the energy

> > attacks of Pscyho-Power may be inherently evil.

Well, the term "Psycho-power" is somewhat vague i would
say, specially considering how closely it's use
resembles that of "common" chi powers. I think (my
suggestion use it or throw it) it could be simply
considered as "Dark Chi", as other arts master's
comments upon some of the uses of Ler Drit seems to
describe Bison and his disciples use as malignant or
"unnatural". Besides, it's good to remember a good deal
of Bison's understanding of the powers he developed and
taught other came of his study with those Dark monks
from "Secrets of Shadoloo". And i can't quite swallow
revenants as a result of pure psychic or psionic force.

> > I'd start picking up a secondary martial art form,

one with a

> different
> > philosophy of energy. Maybe in that way, you could

use a different

> > "energy" for your maneuvers.

I wouldn't exactly take things to tha point. But i do
agree with the differences of energy philosophy. A Ler
Drit stylist would have to get the a sensei's help to
learn ways to "rechannel" the forces inside him, so that
he might use his powers in other, safer, ways.


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--- throwrocks@... wrote:

> Hey Chris (and all)
> I added a pic of that hottie akuma girl to the list (the one from the
> poll), there in the folder Files>Matt's>Pics>
>
> Also a pic of my boxer.

Good work both of you. You can tell your player that I forgive him. I know
he's had many sleepless nights over it.

It's not being arrogant if it's true.

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--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:

> Well I receive it and I just need more folks to start.

And so did I. Thanks for the free disclosure.

What?! That was a fake character? Your clever, too clever by half, Erik. See
you ringside.


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> Guys:
> What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco

Power... just as Akuma makes

> Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark

purposes, of course).

> >=-)

I get your point but there's a simple and yet huge
difference. Akuma, no matter how mighty he might be, is
just another fighter (or master) who got mad. With Ler
Drit, a evil man is the High Master AND founder of the
style. Akuma no matter what, would be just another
person in the middle of thousands of Shotokan fighters
in the world and centuries of history.
With Bison, the SOURCE of the method is already
corrupted, any fighter who learns Ler Drit will tend to
be influenced by Bison's way, methods and morals,
because he's the one who set the style. For it to truly
be as any other style, there must be at least one other
master as able, and whose word has as much weight among
Ler Drit praticioners, as his.
Without it, you'll just have some good people getting
dupped, broken and corrupted by their already not so
nice masters. At best.


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--- marnic <marnic@...> wrote:

> > Guys:
> > What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco
> Power... just as Akuma makes
> > Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark
> purposes, of course).
> > >=-)
>
> I get your point but there's a simple and yet huge
> difference. Akuma, no matter how mighty he might be, is
> just another fighter (or master) who got mad.

That's debatable. A lot of fans believe that Gouken's brother died when he
learned the raging demon and was replaced by a demon (or was possessed, or
whatever).

Anyone feel like asking Capcom for answers?

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Akuma, no matter how mighty he might be, is

> > just another fighter (or master) who got mad.
>
> That's debatable. A lot of fans believe that Gouken's

brother died when he

> learned the raging demon and was replaced by a demon

(or was possessed, or

> whatever).
>

I get what you mean, but as i see it, be he madman or
demon, it doesn't change a thing to what i said about
Ler Drit, does it ?


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--- marnic <marnic@...> wrote:

> I get what you mean, but as i see it, be he madman or
> demon, it doesn't change a thing to what i said about
> Ler Drit, does it ?

No, not really. Just pointing out that using Akuma for contrast was a bad
example.

Besides, do you really want to use his (Bison's) background in Secrets of Shadoloo?

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No, but then, Special Forces isn't always thought of highly in street
fighting circles. As is, I think Ler Drit was a combo of commando
training, superhuman athletics, and powers gained from that meteor
that Bison found. Someone could be taught the basic skills (stance,
moves, etc.)... I'm looking at how Cross could develop similar yet
safely distant powers from the 'dark' Ler Drit style.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "marnic"<marnic@b...> wrote:
> Akuma, no matter how mighty he might be, is
> > > just another fighter (or master) who got mad.
> >
> > That's debatable. A lot of fans believe that Gouken's
> brother died when he
> > learned the raging demon and was replaced by a demon
> (or was possessed, or
> > whatever).
> >
>
> I get what you mean, but as i see it, be he madman or
> demon, it doesn't change a thing to what i said about
> Ler Drit, does it ?
>
>
>
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That is if you follow the book's background. I'm not sure but I heard that
Ler Drit is real fighting style and if it is real then M.Bison didn't
created, just used it, as any martial artist would use it's style for any of
his purposes...

>From: "marnic"<marnic@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Honorable Ler Drit?
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:23:48 -0200
>
> > Guys:
> > What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco
>Power... just as Akuma makes
> > Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark
>purposes, of course).
> > >=-)
>
>I get your point but there's a simple and yet huge
>difference. Akuma, no matter how mighty he might be, is
>just another fighter (or master) who got mad. With Ler
>Drit, a evil man is the High Master AND founder of the
>style. Akuma no matter what, would be just another
>person in the middle of thousands of Shotokan fighters
>in the world and centuries of history.
>With Bison, the SOURCE of the method is already
>corrupted, any fighter who learns Ler Drit will tend to
>be influenced by Bison's way, methods and morals,
>because he's the one who set the style. For it to truly
>be as any other style, there must be at least one other
>master as able, and whose word has as much weight among
>Ler Drit praticioners, as his.
>Without it, you'll just have some good people getting
>dupped, broken and corrupted by their already not so
>nice masters. At best.
>
>
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DAMN !!
I replied Rinaldo's email with the e groups one...!!!!So you guys who
receive my character by error (must be all of you) may delete it ' cause
I'll have to make a new one! well I'll just change the stats...
Ha,ha!!!>=-)
Sorry Rinaldo!!

>From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:22:05 -0800 (PST)
>
>--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > Well I receive it and I just need more folks to start.
>
>
>And so did I. Thanks for the free disclosure.
>
>What?! That was a fake character? Your clever, too clever by half, Erik.
>See
>you ringside.
>
>
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Hummm.... Some of you wanted the Soul Power stats, well... here it is,
it was made by white wolf, but I don't know if it was released in USA,
it was in BRazil...

SOUL POWER
Ler Drit is Bison's personal style, but Rose feel the evil inside
of Ler Drit and ran away from the monk that was teaching the style
(it's said that this monk was Bison). Rose joined the knowledge that
she gained under the monk tutorship, and part of the ancient Kabaddi,
Rose developed her own fighting style, the Soul Power.
Soul Power basics is to awaken the paranormal power inside of all
humans.
Schools: There isn't schools that teaches Soul Power. Rose choses
the students very carefully.
Members: Rose is searching the globe to find other people who
posses psychic powers to train them personally. ATENTION: to posses
Soul Power Style, you must have Sensei 5 (Rose or a grand master of
Kabaddi).
Concept: Monks, mystics, mutants...
Initial Chi: 5
Initial Willpower: 2
Quote: "If you wnat the maximum power at any cost, search Shadaloo
and learn Ler Drit, but if you wants to preserve your soul, so come
with me..."
Special Maneuvers:
Punch: Dim Mak (3), Ducking Fierce (1)
Kick: Slidekick (2)
Block: Energy Refletion (2), San He (3)
Grab: Brain Cracker (2), Head Butt Hold (2), Neck Choke (2)
Athletics: Cannon Drill (5), Flying Body Spear (2)
Focus: Chi Kun Healing (3), Fireball (3), Flight (4),
Flying Fireball (3), Ghost Form (5), Improved Fireball (5), Psychic
Vise (4),Psychokinetic Channeling (4), Mind Reading (3), Regeneration
(1), Telepathy (2), Yoga Teleport (5), Zen No Mind (3).

Name: Rose
Style: Soul Power (a weak version of Ler Drit)
Concept: Dilettante
Signature: Creates illusions copies of herself
Attributes:
Strength: 3
Dexterity: 5
Stamina: 3
Charisma: 3
Manipulation: 4
Appearance: 5
Perception: 4
Intelligence: 5
Wits: 4
Abilities:
Alertness: 3
Interrogation: 2
Intimidation: 1
Insight: 5
Streetwise: 2
Subterfuge: 2
Blind Fighting: 2
Drive: 2
Leadership: 1
Stealth: 3
Survival: 1
Arena: 2
Computer: 1
Investigation: 3
Medicine: 3
Mysteries: 6
Adventages:
Backgrounds:
Allies: 4
Contact: 3
Fame: 3
Resources: 4
Staff: 5
Techniques:
Punch: 3
Kick: 3
Block: 4
Grab: 3
Athletics: 3
Sports: 3
Focus: 5
Special Maneuvers:
Chi Kun Healing, Cobra Charm, Ducking Fierce,
Flight, Fireball, Jump, Mind Reading, Neck
Choke, Psychic Vise, Psychokinetic Channeling,
Regeneration, Telepathy, Throw.
Combo: Jump to Neck Choke to Throw.
Renown:
Glory: 5
Honor: 8
Chi: 10
Willpower: 8
Health: 18
Rank: 8 (Freestyle)
Standing:
Wins: 58
Losses: 8
Draws: 4
KOs: 29

TO erik justiniano

> That is if you follow the book's background. I'm not sure but I
> heard that Ler Drit is real fighting style and if it is real then
> M.Bison didn't created, just used it, as any martial artist would
> use it's style for any of his purposes...

Ler Drit a real fighting style. Where do you heard that? It could be
cool to learn Ler Drit.

Vega/Bison

>
> No, not really. Just pointing out that using Akuma

for contrast was a bad

> example.
>

In what matters, it doesn't change much, so i didn't
worry at all.

> Besides, do you really want to use his (Bison's)

background in Secrets of Shadoloo?

>

Yup, because without this background, there's no reason
at all for the whole discussion. I've never seen the
name Ler Drit outside the rpg itself. If you disconsider
the background, Bison would "just" be a Special Forces
fighter with some peculiar powers of his, that might
even be unteachable.

There would be no reason for Ler Drit to exist.


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Interesting idea that of Soul Power, but from what i
know (from people who have played the Alpha series one
too many times), Roses power is a combination of family
training/mystic inheritance, much like the Kusanagis'
flame powers in the KoF series. As a matter of fact,
Bison STOLE a good part of his "psychic powers" from
Rose's father, the reason why she went after him & (lame)
explanation for Bison being more powerful in Street
Fighter Alpha than in Street Fighter II.

> TO erik justiniano
> > That is if you follow the book's background. I'm not

sure but I

> > heard that Ler Drit is real fighting style and if it

is real then

> > M.Bison didn't created, just used it, as any

martial artist would

> > use it's style for any of his purposes...
>

Sincerely, i have practiced read about martial arts
since i was 5 years old (i'm 24 years old), several
different arts. A good part of the guys i have a habit
of playing with are real martial artists too. And i
sincerely have never ever heard of Ler Drit as a real
martial arts style. The name means what, anyway ? it may
exist for real and i just didn't luck out of hearing
about it, but i'm doubtful for now. If anyone could get
me something on it, i would be very interested.

Marnic


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Oh dammit, this going a public... I want write a public excuse to Eric
probaly he want kill me, sorry for that but in my rush to reply I put this
in wrong, sorry realy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> Well I receive it and I just need more folks to start.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erik justiniano <eriklee1977@...>
> To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
>
>
> > Dear Rinaldo:
> >
> > Here is my character for your tournament:
> >
> > Name: Alex Durden Style: Special Forces
> >
> > ATRIBUTES:
> > Str. 3, Dext. 4, Stam. 4; Cha. 1, Man. 2, App.3; Per.3, Int. 3, Wits 4
> > ABILITIES:
> > Alertness 2 Insight 1 Intimidation 2 Stealth 2 Subterfuge 2; Blind
> Fighting
> > 2 Drive 1 Security 1 Style Lore 1 Survival 1; Arena 1
> > Medicine 1 Demolitions 1 and Linguistics 1 (Japanese).
> > TECHNIQUES:
> > Punch 3, Kick 3, Athletics 2
> > SPECIAL MANEUVERS:
> > Flying Knee Thrust (1), Spinning Back Fist(1), Suplex(1), Knee
Basher(2),
> > Jump(1) and a *COMBO* (1): Flying Knee Thrust to Knee Basher.
> > Health: 10 Glory: 2 Honor: 1
> >
> >
> > I will more info baout him later...
> >
> > >From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
> > >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:48:05 -0200
> > >
> > >Alright, this the system a simple rank 1 character like the main book
> > >rules, of
> > >course a net style could be but I nee see it first, just send the
> character
> > >for
> > >my e-mail, and I will reply.
> > >
> >
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My mistake too I reply the e-mail public too, this netscape outlook is new
to me, I working with other netscape program.

----- Original Message -----
From: erik justiniano <eriklee1977@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> DAMN !!
> I replied Rinaldo's email with the e groups one...!!!!So you guys who
> receive my character by error (must be all of you) may delete it ' cause
> I'll have to make a new one! well I'll just change the stats...
> Ha,ha!!!>=-)
> Sorry Rinaldo!!
>
>
> >From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.
> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:22:05 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo.gambetta@...> wrote:
> > > Well I receive it and I just need more folks to start.
> >
> >
> >And so did I. Thanks for the free disclosure.
> >
> >What?! That was a fake character? Your clever, too clever by half,
Erik.
> >See
> >you ringside.
> >
> >
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> >
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Ler Drit is NOT a real life martial art.
I believe it is so written
somewhere in the Shadoloo book.
It was created by Bison,
in the manner previously
suggested under this subject.

As Ler Drit is founded
by such an evil and selfserving
person as Bison,
the art of Ler Drit
would be permeated with Evil.
To understand the art,
one must understand the teacher.
A master of Ler Drit needs
therefore to be Evil.
Otherwise, maybe one could
substitute righteous anger
for the rage...
Who (but Capcom) knows?
A person could of course
become an egotist who
despised Bison, then
leave to make his own world
of shadow and crime.
Hate is strong.

I do not think a
true Ler Drit practitioner
could be a "good" person.
If they jumped off at
beginner level, ok.
They maybe saw the evil
for what it was?
But without guidance,
they will never master
the art of Ler Drit.
They would become
Special Forces people instead.

In short;
No, I don't think Ler Drit
as is, with its founding
principles; greed and anger,
could be made honourable.

Maybe some "sporting" honour
code could be mixed in...
A hunter's code, like;
Do not kill an unworthy opponent.
All harm must be retributed with added force.
Always strive for improvement, stay stronger than your enemy.
They are all your enemies.
-et cetera

I got an idea.
A breakout group off of
Shadoloo, its members
being Ler Drit students,
who have broken off a piece
of the meteor, and distributed
parts of it among their number.
They work to preserve the
members of their organization,
and steadily earn more money.
I'd give them a code like
the one above, I think...


Herr Tevik, Martial Artist.

Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I need more fighters.

Let´s review the list:
1- Delta (Josh Diemert)
2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his stats.)
4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me again.)
5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)
Well at last I need more five persons, I hope for 16 fighters tournament,
when I have number very close like 12 or 13 I complete the list with some
npc fighter.

I will be waiting, remember ancient contestants of last Gateway can enter
again.

Ok then!!!If it is not a real style, I think the Storyteller has the final
word... Just as I prohibited the use of Cyborgs and Animal Hybrids on my
campaings, he may do a Ler drit good guy. It all depends on the story...

>From: razaarfxz@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:20:37 -0000
>
>Ler Drit is NOT a real life martial art.
>I believe it is so written
>somewhere in the Shadoloo book.
>It was created by Bison,
>in the manner previously
>suggested under this subject.
>
>As Ler Drit is founded
>by such an evil and selfserving
>person as Bison,
>the art of Ler Drit
>would be permeated with Evil.
>To understand the art,
>one must understand the teacher.
>A master of Ler Drit needs
>therefore to be Evil.
>Otherwise, maybe one could
>substitute righteous anger
>for the rage...
>Who (but Capcom) knows?
>A person could of course
>become an egotist who
>despised Bison, then
>leave to make his own world
>of shadow and crime.
>Hate is strong.
>
>I do not think a
>true Ler Drit practitioner
>could be a "good" person.
>If they jumped off at
>beginner level, ok.
>They maybe saw the evil
>for what it was?
>But without guidance,
>they will never master
>the art of Ler Drit.
>They would become
>Special Forces people instead.
>
>In short;
>No, I don't think Ler Drit
>as is, with its founding
>principles; greed and anger,
>could be made honourable.
>
>Maybe some "sporting" honour
>code could be mixed in...
>A hunter's code, like;
>Do not kill an unworthy opponent.
>All harm must be retributed with added force.
>Always strive for improvement, stay stronger than your enemy.
>They are all your enemies.
>-et cetera
>
>I got an idea.
>A breakout group off of
>Shadoloo, its members
>being Ler Drit students,
>who have broken off a piece
>of the meteor, and distributed
>parts of it among their number.
>They work to preserve the
>members of their organization,
>and steadily earn more money.
>I'd give them a code like
>the one above, I think...
>
>
>Herr Tevik, Martial Artist.
>

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Sleepless nights no, he almost quit playing her though.
weve all been giving him shit and i told him that on the poll the
only votes were all "what kind of dumbass concept is that", then i go
into work one day and say "oh yeah, Chris Hoffman thinks your an
idiot" and hes like "who the hell is Chris hoffman??? Chris hoffman
can kiss my semi-black ass!!" (it was really funny) then he says hes
making a new character and i have to talk him out of it cause hes the
only hook into our currernt adventure and because he already beat one
of the other guys in a tournament. not cool to screw up another pc's
record then make a new character.

lol

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
>
> --- throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > Hey Chris (and all)
> > I added a pic of that hottie akuma girl to the list (the one from
the
> > poll), there in the folder Files>Matt's>Pics>
> >
> > Also a pic of my boxer.
>
> Good work both of you. You can tell your player that I forgive
him. I know
> he's had many sleepless nights over it.
>
> It's not being arrogant if it's true.
>
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two questions about gateway...

1) How often need i check my e mail? we swap hits everynight??

2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should they
have? do you have a standard?

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Rinaldo Gambetta" <rinaldo.gambetta@t...>
wrote:

> Well at this time I have a number of fighter but I need more

fighters.

>
> Let´s review the list:
> 1- Delta (Josh Diemert)
> 2- Gokiwa (Chris Hoffmann)
> 3- Mr.Military (J.Scott Pittman- Obs: I need his stats.)
> 4- Rev.Doctor character (I lost his stats send me again.)
> 5- Alex Durden (Erik Justiniano)
> Well at last I need more five persons, I hope for 16 fighters

tournament,

> when I have number very close like 12 or 13 I complete the list

with some

> npc fighter.
>
> I will be waiting, remember ancient contestants of last Gateway can

enter

> again.

Well I have a simple answer for you...

Bison learned ler drit after he had a giant mysticl meteor fall out
of the sky right? well just say that theres other masters of ler
drit who are good, that you can learn from...

he had the meteor, one of them could learn from bigfoot, one from
aliens, one could have spotted elvis in a convenience store and had
some mystical power rub off. One could learn from the loch ness
monster.

three cheers for white wolfs engaging storyline!!! Bring on the
mystic meteors!!!

In all honesty though, my oppinion is: there is no honorable ler drit.

If you want to have a good guy using ler drit, he should only use it
till he can switch to JKD.

no honorable person would keep ler drit, the style where some moves
mind rape you.

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Jonathan Combs" <doc_mental@y...> wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> I'm creating a fighter using Ler Drit as his style.. the twist is
> that he's not working for Shadoloo, and is one of the 'good guys'.
> Basically, after his conditioning broke and he fled the compound,
> Bison sent an assassin after him. This assassin was noted for
using
> energy attacks... in attempting to kill Cross (my character), he
only
> managed to knock him out and wipe his memories. After recovering,
> Cross can remember only something from his dreams... a winged
> skull... and how to fight. Of course, this has brought to mind
> interesting thoughts on how arena fighters would react, as well as
> Shadoloo spies. :)
>
> Any thoughts on how to make Ler Drit 'honorable', aside from
ditching
> things like Mind Control, Psychic Rage, etc.?

> Well I have a simple answer for you...
>
> Bison learned ler drit after he had a giant mystic

meteor fall out

> of the sky right? well just say that theres other

masters of ler

> drit who are good, that you can learn from...
>

Changing subject, ou've just brought a interesting point
to my mind. So Bison found a big glowing rock,
supposedly a meteor, deep below a uranium vein and it
gives some weird mean-looking powers... Has any of you
people ever played the "Rite of Passage" Werewolf
adventure ?

> he had the meteor, one of them could learn from

bigfoot, one from

> aliens, one could have spotted elvis in a convenience

store and had

That could be cool. "Master Presley, how may i find my
peace again ? I've become tone-deaf !!! :)

> some mystical power rub off. One could learn from the

loch ness

> monster.
>
> three cheers for white wolfs engaging storyline!!!

Bring on the

> mystic meteors!!!
>

I've just thought that the idea isn't even a new one for
them. Maybe that "meteor" is far more mystic and far
less meteor than it seems...

> In all honesty though, my oppinion is: there is no

honorable ler drit.

>
> If you want to have a good guy using ler drit, he

should only use it

> till he can switch to JKD.
>
> no honorable person would keep ler drit, the style

where some moves

> mind rape you.
>

So that part of the discussion is over, i think. And
what d hell is that Akuma-girl you people talked of ?!?


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--- throwrocks@... wrote:

> two questions about gateway...
>
> 1) How often need i check my e mail? we swap hits everynight??

It was a weekly thing the last time it was ran. Rinaldo will probably compile
it on weekends.

Just some FYI about this tournament... This is not a rpg session over email.
It's just a tournament with some occasional trash talking and side stories.
You don't send in one command at a time. You send in a ten round (or twenty
round, lately it's been twenty round) strategy of what you plan on doing each
round (round 1: block round 2: Lightning Kick of Satan 3: Japanese Redeye
etc.) Then at the bottom you put down various if-thens (IF my opponent throws
a flamming goober at me THEN abort to jump, that sort of thing.)

> 2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should they
> have? do you have a standard?

Just a basic starting character w/out cybernetics/hybrid backgrounds. If
you're using a style that's not in the books or other house rules, you'll have
to run them by Rinaldo "Tournament God" Gambetta.

That should be enough to get you started. Rinaldo will be kind enough to point
out any errors I've made (preferably in all caps so I don't miss them).

> Matt

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Ooh! Ooh! I got it! Extended character concept... long range
planning is great! :) Someone mentioned that Ler Drit could not be
honorable because of the man who created it... but, wouldn't it be
interesting to see Cross develop Ler Drit into something that IS
honorable? Become the first master of a new martial art (even if it
IS an offshoot)? He knows enough to see the evil inherent in Ler
Drit... somehow, working around that, while maintaining the strength
of the style. Hmmm.... and the idea of a group stealing a piece of
the meteor... perhaps Cross could have a small pendant or something,
of the meteor material... extended contact with it has given him
insight into his own "Psycho Power", but as he lacks the megalomania
that Bison had BEFORE he ruled Shadoloo, Cross insteads focuses on
how he can use his powers for good (since, having lost his memory, he
was rescued and brought back to health by a good-hearted hermit).

--- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...> wrote:
> Ok then!!!If it is not a real style, I think the Storyteller has
the final
> word... Just as I prohibited the use of Cyborgs and Animal Hybrids
on my
> campaings, he may do a Ler drit good guy. It all depends on the
story...
>
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I´m out of good speach for this situation, Chris explain everything with a
good and clear language, thanks Chris...

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.


> --- throwrocks@... wrote:
> > two questions about gateway...
> >
> > 1) How often need i check my e mail? we swap hits everynight??
>
> It was a weekly thing the last time it was ran. Rinaldo will probably
compile
> it on weekends.
>
> Just some FYI about this tournament... This is not a rpg session over
email.
> It's just a tournament with some occasional trash talking and side
stories.
> You don't send in one command at a time. You send in a ten round (or
twenty
> round, lately it's been twenty round) strategy of what you plan on doing
each
> round (round 1: block round 2: Lightning Kick of Satan 3: Japanese Redeye
> etc.) Then at the bottom you put down various if-thens (IF my opponent
throws
> a flamming goober at me THEN abort to jump, that sort of thing.)
>
> > 2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should they
> > have? do you have a standard?
>
> Just a basic starting character w/out cybernetics/hybrid backgrounds. If
> you're using a style that's not in the books or other house rules, you'll
have
> to run them by Rinaldo "Tournament God" Gambetta.
>
> That should be enough to get you started. Rinaldo will be kind enough to
point
> out any errors I've made (preferably in all caps so I don't miss them).
>
> > Matt
>
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This stands to reason, given how much time Bison spent in Thailand.
Of course, as I'm going to start taking classes in Muay Thai in the
very near future, it'd be interesting to find out more 'real'
information on Ler Drit! I think the confusion came about from the
passage in the SoS book that mentions Bison's Russian commando
training, hence some group members' assertion that it's a Special
Forces style. They were more correct than they knew, if indeed Ler
Drit is really the military application of Muay Thai! :)

The discussion is basically how could Ler Drit be made honorable (I'm
making a character who has basically broken his conditioning and is a
Ler Drit fighter, but not evil). There are some who believe that Ler
Drit is inherently evil, others that believe that it's the man behind
the style that makes it evil. Personally, and this is not to
necessarily say that others are wrong, I'd like to believe the
latter. :) Although, the 'combat honor' principle mentioned earlier
was very interesting... something I might use for Cross! :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
> hmmm... Quite a disscution going on thus far.
> I haven't read far enough into it to add much input, but it does
seem like our martial artist experts are all asleep right now.
Beleive it or not, Ler Drit IS a real style.
> However some confusion arises in the history to it in the RPG.
Where Spanish Ninjitsu is strictly a fabricated style that vega has,
also M. Bison in the rpg has created his own style which he calls Ler
Drit. The style Bison uses is unique as best anyone can tell. It says
he mixes Special Forces training with athletics and (more recently)
pyscho/mental powers. However in real life, Ler Drit does exist.
It's a small little known branch of 'old' style of Muay Thai... "like
Ler Drit, Pahuyuth,
> Krabi-Krabong, etc." I thought I remeber hearing that it was the
Thai equvilant to Military combat training, kinda how real life Sanbo
wrestling is used in the Russian military. I'll toss in my 2cents
later when I figure out what the rest of the conversation is. =)

By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son??? Does Ryu got the inner Dark Hadou
from his father?? Whatcha think???
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:43:23 "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@...>
writes:

> Guys:
> Ler Drit is a Martial Arts style, just as Kung Fu, Special Forces or
> Karate.
> What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco Power... just as
> Akuma makes
> Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark purposes, of
> course).
> >=-)

I think Psycho-Power has been described before as an actual malignant
force. Merely using it corrupts one.

Knight of the Black Rose
Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
"Absolute Destiny Tango"

Ah, but then we come to the question: is Ler Drit dependent upon
Psycho Power? As stated before, if Ler Drit is simply the military
use of Muay Thai (or something like that), then I think the answer
would be no. So, yeah, Cross might not use Psycho Power, but instead
use a purer form of Chi. He would still have access to some of
the 'non-dishonorable' moves, such as Psycho Crusher (appropriately
renamed, or course). I'm trying to keep close to Ler Drit, just
tweaking it so that at higher levels, it's understood that this is
indeed a 'separate but equal' fighting art as much as standard Ler
Drit. Soul Power is nice, but in game terms, if someone were to use
Style Lore, they'd look and say, "Oh, Soul Power. He must be a good
guy.", whereas with Honorable Ler Drit, they'd recognize it as Ler
Drit "That's odd... Ler Drit.. but he seems to be a decent guy?
What's going on here?"

--- In streetfighter@y..., anton_figueroa@j... wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:43:23 "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...>
> writes:
> > Guys:
> > Ler Drit is a Martial Arts style, just as Kung Fu, Special Forces
or
> > Karate.
> > What makes it evil is the Man behind the Psyco Power... just as
> > Akuma makes
> > Shotokan a dark style (when it is used for dark purposes, of
> > course).
> > >=-)
>
> I think Psycho-Power has been described before as an actual
malignant
> force. Merely using it corrupts one.
>
> Knight of the Black Rose
> Street Fighter: http://members.nbci.com/shliff/countdown/
> "Absolute Destiny Tango"

I think a Ler Dritt practitioner could strive to become good. It would
have been impossible for them not to be corrupted by it. Controlling the
"forces of darkness" and all. Someone who wasn't evil and didn't want to
learn it would not survive the training.

People can always strive for redemption. But whenever they use the Chi
powers of Ler Dritt, they would feel a bit of that evil creeping over
them. To not tap the evil Psycho-Power (an evil malignant force), Chi
training could be undergone to Focus the powers by other means (tutelage
under a Tai Chi master or other such similar thing - a Kabbadi user or
Soul Power user).

I find it interesting to compare the Soul Power users that White Wolf
published for Brazil and the Aura Combat users I created (to represent
Rose). Soul Power gets Cannon Drill. Wow. And Improved Fireball.
I didn't give the Style I created such things, but I did create useful
powers such as "Psychic Healing" for it (something to counteract Mind
Control and Psychic Rage).

Knight of the Black Rose
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YOU SEE!! IT DOES EXIST!!!

>From: "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Ler Drit... a MIGHTY style =)
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:53:44 -0500
>
>hmmm... Quite a disscution going on thus far.
>I haven't read far enough into it to add much input, but it does seem like
>our martial artist experts are all asleep right now. Beleive it or not, Ler
>Drit IS a real style.
>However some confusion arises in the history to it in the RPG. Where
>Spanish Ninjitsu is strictly a fabricated style that vega has, also M.
>Bison in the rpg has created his own style which he calls Ler Drit. The
>style Bison uses is unique as best anyone can tell. It says he mixes
>Special Forces training with athletics and (more recently) pyscho/mental
>powers. However in real life, Ler Drit does exist. It's a small little
>known branch of 'old' style of Muay Thai... "like Ler Drit, Pahuyuth,
>Krabi-Krabong, etc." I thought I remeber hearing that it was the Thai
>equvilant to Military combat training, kinda how real life Sanbo wrestling
>is used in the Russian military. I'll toss in my 2cents later when I
>figure out what the rest of the conversation is. =)

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Actually, Ler Drit is a real life martial art. The martial art style that
the Thai military forces use, is called Ler Drit. Or, I believe, more
correctly called Lerd Rit. Or something like that.

Ler Drit is basically a nasty variant of Muay Thai (if that's possible),
with an emphasis on quick and dirty takedowns. Something like Special
Forces meets Muay Thai sort of thing.

They don't claim to glow in the dark - not so far, at least.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 razaarfxz@... wrote:

> Ler Drit is NOT a real life martial art.
> I believe it is so written
> somewhere in the Shadoloo book.
> It was created by Bison,
> in the manner previously
> suggested under this subject.
>
> As Ler Drit is founded
> by such an evil and selfserving
> person as Bison,
> the art of Ler Drit
> would be permeated with Evil.
> To understand the art,
> one must understand the teacher.
> A master of Ler Drit needs
> therefore to be Evil.
> Otherwise, maybe one could
> substitute righteous anger
> for the rage...
> Who (but Capcom) knows?
> A person could of course
> become an egotist who
> despised Bison, then
> leave to make his own world
> of shadow and crime.
> Hate is strong.
>
> I do not think a
> true Ler Drit practitioner
> could be a "good" person.
> If they jumped off at
> beginner level, ok.
> They maybe saw the evil
> for what it was?
> But without guidance,
> they will never master
> the art of Ler Drit.
> They would become
> Special Forces people instead.
>
> In short;
> No, I don't think Ler Drit
> as is, with its founding
> principles; greed and anger,
> could be made honourable.
>
> Maybe some "sporting" honour
> code could be mixed in...
> A hunter's code, like;
> Do not kill an unworthy opponent.
> All harm must be retributed with added force.
> Always strive for improvement, stay stronger than your enemy.
> They are all your enemies.
> -et cetera
>
> I got an idea.
> A breakout group off of
> Shadoloo, its members
> being Ler Drit students,
> who have broken off a piece
> of the meteor, and distributed
> parts of it among their number.
> They work to preserve the
> members of their organization,
> and steadily earn more money.
> I'd give them a code like
> the one above, I think...
>
>
> Herr Tevik, Martial Artist.
>
>
>
>
>
>

---
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leirbakk@...

No Ryu does not is Akumas son...
:)

-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...> wrote:

> By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son

yikes!!!
you have to lay your whole fight out in advance!!!???

so even if something doesnt work you keep doing it over and over if
your instructions say so?

gross..

I would have to seriously think about the fight first... What
happened to playing the next round based on how the last round went???
---------
Rinaldo,
can i just send you the character now or do you need the character
and the "battle plan" together?

also, is it 10 or twenty rounds???

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> --- throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > two questions about gateway...
> >
> > 1) How often need i check my e mail? we swap hits everynight??
>
> It was a weekly thing the last time it was ran. Rinaldo will
probably compile
> it on weekends.
>
> Just some FYI about this tournament... This is not a rpg session
over email.
> It's just a tournament with some occasional trash talking and side
stories.
> You don't send in one command at a time. You send in a ten round
(or twenty
> round, lately it's been twenty round) strategy of what you plan on
doing each
> round (round 1: block round 2: Lightning Kick of Satan 3: Japanese
Redeye
> etc.) Then at the bottom you put down various if-thens (IF my
opponent throws
> a flamming goober at me THEN abort to jump, that sort of thing.)
>
> > 2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should
they
> > have? do you have a standard?
>
> Just a basic starting character w/out cybernetics/hybrid
backgrounds. If
> you're using a style that's not in the books or other house rules,
you'll have
> to run them by Rinaldo "Tournament God" Gambetta.
>
> That should be enough to get you started. Rinaldo will be kind
enough to point
> out any errors I've made (preferably in all caps so I don't miss
them).
>
> > Matt
>
> =====
> staredown@r... http://www.workspot.net/~staredown
>
> "We don't expect kittens to fight wildcats and win
> --we merely expect them to try."
> -- Robert Heinlein
>
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"A real style exists with the same name" would be more accurate.

I could say Im making a new style where you glow and fly around and
shoot fire and im calling it (drummroll) Judo.

But that wouldn't mean that "Judo" from my campaign "Really Exists"
because there is a style about throws, chokes/jointlocks, and pins
that shares the same name.

--- In streetfighter@y..., "Andy Johnston" <dlatrex@h...> wrote:
Beleive it or not, Ler Drit IS a real style.

Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG yet???

If not, I probably will.

I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and
it ROCKS!!!


Matt

I was thinking of doing a section of my page called "The REAL World
Warriors" with a map you click on to view character
sheet/moves/styles of REAL PEOPLE from that locale.

Example:

Click Rio De Jenaro and See Royce Gracies Sheet moves and style. also
Marco Huas

Click Japan, See Sakurabas sheet.

Click America, see Mark coleman, ken shamrock, kathy long

Click Holland see Remco Pardiue

Click China to see Jackie Chan and Jet Li

Click Russia to see Oleg Taktarov

Would anyone be interested in this or am I wasting my time??

Matt
http://www.geocities.com/necro6hit/

PROVE IT....

>From: throwrocks@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Father and Son
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:44:53 -0000
>
>No Ryu does not is Akumas son...
>:)
>
>-- In streetfighter@y..., "erik justiniano" <eriklee1977@h...> wrote:
> > By the way, does Ryu is Akuma's son
>

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Ah, yes, I'm going to be studying that in short order as well... the
Trident Academy in Northern Virginia offers Muay Thai and Brazilian
Jiujitsu, taught by a Navy SEAL and his fellow instructors. As a
Marine reservist, I might get a discount. :)

Anyways, I'm getting away from the point- this conversion would be
interesting to see, especially in how it would differ from plain ol'
jiujitsu (as horrifically poor that choice of words was). :)

--- In streetfighter@y..., throwrocks@b... wrote:
> Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG
yet???
>
> If not, I probably will.
>
> I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
and
> it ROCKS!!!
>
>
> Matt

I have NO idea as to the veracity, but this is neat...
Thought it might interrest you ...

http://www.usmta.com/Fighting%20Systems%20Content.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk <leirbakk@...>
To: <streetfighter@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject: Re:[streetfighter] Re: Honorable Ler Drit?


> Actually, Ler Drit is a real life martial art. The martial art style that
> the Thai military forces use, is called Ler Drit. Or, I believe, more
> correctly called Lerd Rit. Or something like that.
>
> Ler Drit is basically a nasty variant of Muay Thai (if that's possible),
> with an emphasis on quick and dirty takedowns. Something like Special
> Forces meets Muay Thai sort of thing.
>
> They don't claim to glow in the dark - not so far, at least.
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 razaarfxz@... wrote:
>
> > Ler Drit is NOT a real life martial art.
> > I believe it is so written
> > somewhere in the Shadoloo book.
> > It was created by Bison,
> > in the manner previously
> > suggested under this subject.
> >
> > As Ler Drit is founded
> > by such an evil and selfserving
> > person as Bison,
> > the art of Ler Drit
> > would be permeated with Evil.
> > To understand the art,
> > one must understand the teacher.
> > A master of Ler Drit needs
> > therefore to be Evil.
> > Otherwise, maybe one could
> > substitute righteous anger
> > for the rage...
> > Who (but Capcom) knows?
> > A person could of course
> > become an egotist who
> > despised Bison, then
> > leave to make his own world
> > of shadow and crime.
> > Hate is strong.
> >
> > I do not think a
> > true Ler Drit practitioner
> > could be a "good" person.
> > If they jumped off at
> > beginner level, ok.
> > They maybe saw the evil
> > for what it was?
> > But without guidance,
> > they will never master
> > the art of Ler Drit.
> > They would become
> > Special Forces people instead.
> >
> > In short;
> > No, I don't think Ler Drit
> > as is, with its founding
> > principles; greed and anger,
> > could be made honourable.
> >
> > Maybe some "sporting" honour
> > code could be mixed in...
> > A hunter's code, like;
> > Do not kill an unworthy opponent.
> > All harm must be retributed with added force.
> > Always strive for improvement, stay stronger than your enemy.
> > They are all your enemies.
> > -et cetera
> >
> > I got an idea.
> > A breakout group off of
> > Shadoloo, its members
> > being Ler Drit students,
> > who have broken off a piece
> > of the meteor, and distributed
> > parts of it among their number.
> > They work to preserve the
> > members of their organization,
> > and steadily earn more money.
> > I'd give them a code like
> > the one above, I think...
> >
> >
> > Herr Tevik, Martial Artist.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ---
> Jens-Arthur Leirbakk
> leirbakk@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: throwrocks@...

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:04 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

Has anyone converted the style of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to SF:STG yet???

If not, I probably will.

I took Judo and Jiu Jitsu before moving on to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and
it ROCKS!!!


Matt

----- Original Message -----

From: throwrocks@...

To: streetfighter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:51 PM

Subject: [streetfighter] Re: E-Mail Tournament: Gateway Tournament 2.

yikes!!!
you have to lay your whole fight out in advance!!!???

so even if something doesnt work you keep doing it over and over if
your instructions say so?

gross..

I would have to seriously think about the fight first...  What
happened to playing the next round based on how the last round went???
---------
Rinaldo,
can i just send you the character now or do you need the character
and the "battle plan" together?

also, is it 10 or twenty rounds???

Matt

--- In streetfighter@y..., Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...> wrote:
> --- throwrocks@b... wrote:
> > two questions about gateway...
> >
> > 1) How often need i check my e mail?  we swap hits everynight??
>
> It was a weekly thing the last time it was ran.  Rinaldo will
probably compile
> it on weekends.
>
> Just some FYI about this tournament...  This is not a rpg session
over email.
> It's just a tournament with some occasional trash talking and side
stories.
> You don't send in one command at a time.  You send in a ten round
(or twenty
> round, lately it's been twenty round) strategy of what you plan on
doing each
> round (round 1: block round 2: Lightning Kick of Satan  3: Japanese
Redeye
> etc.)  Then at the bottom you put down various if-thens (IF my
opponent throws
> a flamming goober at me THEN abort to jump, that sort of thing.)
> 
> > 2) If i make a character for your tournament how many exp should
they
> > have? do you have a standard?
>
> Just a basic starting character w/out cybernetics/hybrid
backgrounds.  If
> you're using a style that's not in the books or other house rules,
you'll have
> to run them by Rinaldo "Tournament God" Gambetta.
>
> That should be enough to get you started.  Rinaldo will be kind
enough to point
> out any errors I've made (preferably in all caps so I don't miss
them).
>
> > Matt
>
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