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Group: streetfighter Message: 4757 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Van Gallen before his fight again Danniele Garcia.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4758 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Unknowledge before fight against Dark Hope.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4759 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Kozminski before his fight against Hotaru Seijuro.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4760 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Levi before her fight against Blaise.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4761 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Yung Mai before her fight against Artemis Steele.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4762 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Ivan Guentchev before his fight agains Whisper.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4763 From: Andy Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4764 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against Hotaru Seijuro.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4765 From: Andy Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Talon Master before his fight.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4766 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Someone know when or if this list will be out of air at Holiday
Group: streetfighter Message: 4767 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against HotaruSeijuro.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4768 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Talon Master before his fight.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4769 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4770 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4771 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4772 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Show must go on...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4773 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against HotaruSeijuro.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4774 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Show must go on...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4775 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight againstHotaruSeijuro.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4776 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Key Groups and Who fight against who.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4777 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4778 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4779 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4780 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4781 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4782 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4783 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4784 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4785 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4786 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4787 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4788 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4789 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4790 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4791 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4792 From: Josh Diemert Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4793 From: Josh Diemert Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4794 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Group: streetfighter Message: 4795 From: Timothy Poole Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: warriors pride 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 4796 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: warriors pride 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 4797 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4798 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4799 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4800 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4801 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4802 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4803 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4804 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4805 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4806 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Warrior's Pride #2 - Now Available



Group: streetfighter Message: 4757 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Van Gallen before his fight again Danniele Garcia.
Van Gallen- A lady here? Pardon Miss Garcia but this isn´t a place for a
girl, quit now find a husband and begin a family.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4758 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Unknowledge before fight against Dark Hope.
Unknowledge- Your spirit have the rigth path but your method to explore
it is pathetic you´re nothing against Dark chi powers, return to your
cave now or you be destroyed.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4759 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Kozminski before his fight against Hotaru Seijuro.
Kozminski- You seek you own punishment, nothing personal but I must
defeat you.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4760 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Levi before her fight against Blaise.
Levi- Your skill don´t save you from my attacks.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4761 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Yung Mai before her fight against Artemis Steele.
Yung Mai- You can´t win my technique and perfect balance.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4762 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Ivan Guentchev before his fight agains Whisper.
Ivan Guentchev- A machine? I don´t fly from Russia just to smash a
Cappuccino machine, ops I think I heard some noise from it you can speak
and move? Fine I think this isn´t so boring.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4763 From: Andy Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Hmmm.....problems with a resident Law major in the group? I've had the woes
of all Story Tellers, As I do have a lawyer (happens to be my brother) and a
player that is ALWAYS parinoied that I am out to get him.
But these to rolled into one?
Hmmm.. that's hard.

As far as his arguing against your rulings are concerned, you need to make
sure that Three things are in order first, and then you can use the Rules of
roleplaying:

A. You need to make sure that you have an INTIMATE knowledge of all the
books, and all the rules. If you're a beginner GM, and there's a experienced
role-player, then he's gonna walk all over you to get what's coming to him.

B. You need to make sure that all of your decisions are fair. Just ask
the other role players, shouldn't be to hard to do. Regardless of how much
they enrage you, you can't lash out at them in anger (well.....maybe a
little), you can only let them reap the concequences of their actions. Just
make sure that there ARE concequences.

C. You need to make sure that the game stays fun for EVEYONE! They tell you
this everywhere, and it IS true.

After you have all of these things down pat, you can put into action the
Ultimate Rules of Role-Playing.
These rules were created long ago, when role players were upset and
threatened to revolt against the GM. In turn the GM wanted to leave the
group. They comprimised and as a result we got these two rules.

RULE #1: The Game Master is always right.

This rule should be applied any time there is dissention amoung the group,
and whenever there is a vauge point that the books fail to talk about.
For all other conditions and situations that are encountered then apply rule
two.

RULE #2: See rule number one.

As far as having an overpowered gamer in the group goes, I'd highly suggest
checking out Steve's Site. He's got some pages dedicated to toppeling
overpowered characters. Over all I think he has the best page for GM advice.
You might stop by Crazy Chris H.'s place also.....


Andy
Group: streetfighter Message: 4764 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against Hotaru Seijuro.
In a message dated 12/18/1999 5:49:02 PM, rinaldo@... writes:

<< Kozminski- You seek you own punishment, nothing personal but I must
defeat you.
>>

Hotaru Seijuro- I seek knowledge, and what I have learned will show me the
key to victory. ::Bows:: May the battle bring us wisdom.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4765 From: Andy Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Talon Master before his fight.
Talon: "You ready boys?"

<Shouts from his band in the back>.

"Let's do this! Win or lose, who ever I fight is gonna be hurting in the
end."

[Music starts]
Group: streetfighter Message: 4766 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Someone know when or if this list will be out of air at Holiday
I think to start tournament next weekend but it´s Cristmas and I don´t
known people travel and maybe the list don´t run this day and new year
holliday too, because that the date to start this tournament probaly is
1/1/2000 but if this date is worst to someone or If someone have a
better date to sugest say to me now time isn´t a problem to me.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4767 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against HotaruSeijuro.
This just a chat beetween figthers before their figth.

Kozminski- Knowledge you say much persons can say "Where is the winsdon in a
combat?" But if the combat exist this only a wild thing this must be reasons
and other ways to understand this but wait... This rabbit mask is much real
this isn´t a shame show your real face mask don´t hide anything except if you
hide some true.

ArkonDLoC@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/18/1999 5:49:02 PM, rinaldo@... writes:
>
> << Kozminski- You seek you own punishment, nothing personal but I must
> defeat you.
> >>
>
> Hotaru Seijuro- I seek knowledge, and what I have learned will show me the
> key to victory. ::Bows:: May the battle bring us wisdom.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4768 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/18/1999
Subject: Re: Talon Master before his fight.
I can´t writte a response for this your opponent is a fighter from Robert Pascuttini but he don´t send him to me yet.

Andy wrote:

Talon: "You ready boys?"

  <Shouts from his band in the back>.

"Let's do this! Win or lose, who ever I fight is gonna be hurting in the
end."

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4769 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
[There is nothing you *CAN* do about powergamers and rules lawyers. I
have been in the same position before, myself. Make the best of it I
guess... OOOOR give him the boot (which in the long run may be
better...). ]

Chris Krug-Iron wrote:
>
> Hey, all. Consider this post to be a sort of "Dear Abby" for all you wise
> and not-so wise Storytellers and players alike. I have a problem with one
> of my players. This has been a problem for a number of months now, and
> seems to have come to a sort of "breaking point": He has argued with me
> incessantly during this time, debating nearly all of my rules calls when it
> comes to situations that his character's in (unless, of course, it's in his
> favor), even when I put my foot down and am absolutely sure that's the way
> it should work. If anyone's got a rules lawyer in their game, it's me.
> Even worse, the character he played doesn't mesh well at all with the way
> the storyline in the game goes. I've had to reroute the entire game to fit
> his character in at points. Worse still, he played a completely maxed out
> Cyborg and had caught the attention of two (count 'em!) governmental
> agencies (such as the CIA and CSCIS...our own version of CIA), not to
> mention that an agent had successfully infiltrated the team and was giving
> his location to them at all times. When I showed a little consideration and
> asked him if he had a problem with his character being removed, he snapped
> "YES! As a matter of fact, why DO you have a huge conspiracy plot to take
> my character out anyway?" (Read: I don't like taking people's characters
> out, but with the amount of dookie he had landed himself in just by PLAYING
> the character type...?). Character finally got removed. Not a problem. I
> got the reaction I expected.

Now, he wants to make up another character,
> and says that I have no say over the concept (even though I AM storyteller
> and all).

[Uhhhhh bullshit? Is that the right word?

-downfall.]

>
> WhaddoIdo? He's a good friend of mine, but I've seriously thought about
> giving him the boot.
>
> "Confused"
> Chris Krug-Iron
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4770 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
cliff rice wrote:
>
> Well chad if he wer abusing the rules i would say
> whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
>
> But sence he is contesting the storyteller (The
> ever omnipotent, the all knowing, the all controlling,
> storyteller, if a nearby galexcy explodes it is
> because he wished it, if a grain of sand gets turned
> over bt a slight breeze it is because of hiss will
> excetera, excetera, excetera.) I say kill the bastard
> and make
> him roll up a new one. you controll everything
> whatever the gm says goes, if he dosent like it he
> will adabt or get trampled under foot. think of the
> rest of the players good time. the good of the many
> out weighs the good of the few. dont take that crap
> from the likes of him.

[Killing characters in this manner is not the way to go. It only
cuases animosity between the group (read: friends) and corrodes the
integrity of the game as a whole.
-downfall.]


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Group: streetfighter Message: 4771 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Nice hits for tournament.
In Stf don´t have specif hits to parts of body like face, or stomach but
I just think about make a table and roll dices when the hit happens and
maybe people see words like a wonderfull roundhouse kick at face or a
painfull fierce punch at ribs, but these manuvers don´t have special
effects only nice hits, I just working in table, but this will valid for
manuvers what in their description don´t have where hit like all basic
manuvers and maybe another one manuver.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4772 From: downfall Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Show must go on...
[Ok... I am having difficulty understanding your meaning here. COuld
you or someone explain?]

> People I must be honest with all of you and for this reason will give a
> warning:
> *Low wits will be a great fall for this figther the common wits of major
> part of fighters is between 3 and 4, in a speed draw the first thing to
> see is wits.

[Are there any extrarules in this game regarding WITS that I should be
aware of? Besides the fact that it determines initiative for focus
manuevers?]

> *Low dex again the medium dex is about 4 and 5.

[Explain? The average dex in this tourney is 4 and 5?? I would figure
that would be HIGH END for beggining characters. Are the NPCS more
powerful than starting? Why? Are the character creation rules for PCs
different than the rulebook states for this game?

-downfall.]

> *Curious a combination between the slow and low damage how could be?
> Maybe buy cheap manuvers but if you don´t have speed at last do some
> damage.
> *For this reason I make equilibrated pc´s to make all fair, but for
> people who can be fit in this class this a friend warning.
>
> Please don´t understand it like a critic this Rpg, and everyone have his
> own method to build your own figther, but I´m near to start and I need
> known if anyone gonna make any change, some persons make changes in
> their respective fighters, I will repeat you can do any change but when
> I start the tournament this will gonna be at next weekend, at this
> sunday, saturday I will post the result of selection and groups.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4773 From: ArkonDLoC@aol.com Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight against HotaruSeijuro.
In a message dated 12/18/1999 6:42:52 PM, rinaldo@... writes:

<< Kozminski- Knowledge you say much persons can say "Where is the winsdon in
a

combat?" But if the combat exist this only a wild thing this must be reasons

and other ways to understand this but wait... This rabbit mask is much real

this isn�t a shame show your real face mask don�t hide anything except if you

hide some true. >>

Hotaru Seijuro- I wear no mask.
Group: streetfighter Message: 4774 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Show must go on...
This my fault when I create fighter in beggining I make my npc´s with dex 5 and wits 5 in general in psycal 3/5/3 and ments 1/2/5 but this in beggining after much reflexion I equilibrate the npc´s with pc´s but some players have wits 2 and I just worried about draw speed the guy don´t have chance but this mail is ancient I don´t worry with this no more forget this mail.

downfall wrote:

  [Ok... I am having difficulty understanding your meaning here. COuld
you or someone explain?]

> People I must be honest with all of you and for this reason will give a
> warning:
> *Low wits will be a great fall for this figther the common wits of major
> part of fighters is between 3 and 4, in a speed draw the first thing to
> see is wits.

  [Are there any extrarules in this game regarding WITS that I should be
aware of? Besides the fact that it determines initiative for focus
manuevers?]

> *Low dex again the medium dex is about 4 and 5.

  [Explain? The average dex in this tourney is 4 and 5?? I would figure
that would be HIGH END for beggining characters. Are the NPCS more
powerful than starting? Why? Are the character creation rules for PCs
different than the rulebook states for this game?

-downfall.]

> *Curious a combination between the slow and low damage how could be?
> Maybe buy cheap manuvers but if you don´t have speed at last do some
> damage.
> *For this reason I make equilibrated pc´s to make all fair, but for
> people who can be fit in this class this a friend warning.
>
> Please don´t understand it like a critic this Rpg, and everyone have his
> own method to build your own figther, but I´m near to start and I need
> known if anyone gonna make any change, some persons make changes in
> their respective fighters, I will repeat you can do any change but when
> I start the tournament this will gonna be at next weekend, at this
> sunday, saturday I will post the result of selection and groups.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4775 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/19/1999
Subject: Re: Kozminski before his fight againstHotaruSeijuro.
Kozminski- Amazing but that´s time to end this subject.

ArkonDLoC@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/18/1999 6:42:52 PM, rinaldo@... writes:
>
> << Kozminski- Knowledge you say much persons can say "Where is the winsdon in
> a
>
> combat?" But if the combat exist this only a wild thing this must be reasons
>
> and other ways to understand this but wait... This rabbit mask is much real
>
> this isn´t a shame show your real face mask don´t hide anything except if you
>
> hide some true. >>
>
> Hotaru Seijuro- I wear no mask.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4776 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Key Groups and Who fight against who.
--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:
This totaly
> random sorry for Gokiwa and Artemis who want catch Unknowledge and
> Visage.

Well then, I gues that Gokiwa will just have to make it to the second
round (and hope that unknowledge does to). Besides, it would be more
dramatic to have a mini-boss fight like in Alpha 2.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4777 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
--- cliff rice <shinzite@...> wrote:
I say kill the bastard
> and make
> him roll up a new one.

And here's how you do it. Say to him, "Ok, it's morning and you're
getting dressed. When you lean forward to tie your shoes, you head
explodes. Just one of those things ya know?"

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4778 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Better yet, say it's because he's pissed off Lord Bison one too many times.
Long-range application of Chi is a bitch, y'know?

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To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...




--- cliff rice <shinzite@...> wrote:
I say kill the bastard
> and make
> him roll up a new one.

And here's how you do it. Say to him, "Ok, it's morning and you're
getting dressed. When you lean forward to tie your shoes, you head
explodes. Just one of those things ya know?"

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4779 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
--- Andy <dlatrex@...> wrote:

> You might stop by Crazy Chris H.'s place also.....

You've done it now. 668, the neighbor of the beast stirs and awakens.

Eh? My page? Not that I'm complaining (anything that increases trafic to
my site is a good thing) but I don't have anything like Steve's gm tips.
Unless you're talking about my super rules. I can see how they would ruin
a cyborg's day.

Of course you may be talking about some other Chris H.'s site, but I think
I'm the only Chris H. on the list (or at least the most vocal one).

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4780 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:
> In Stf don�t have specif hits to parts of body like face, or stomach but
> I just think about make a table and roll dices when the hit happens and
> maybe people see words like a wonderfull roundhouse kick at face or a
> painfull fierce punch at ribs, but these manuvers don�t have special
> effects only nice hits, I just working in table, but this will valid for
> manuvers what in their description don�t have where hit like all basic
> manuvers and maybe another one manuver.

I like it, but be ready to over-rule it in favor of common sense. If I'm
doing a foot sweep, I'm probably not going to hit my opponent in the head
(unless he's Stuart Little).

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4781 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:24 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Nice hits for tournament.




--- Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...> wrote:
> In Stf don´t have specif hits to parts of body like face, or stomach but
> I just think about make a table and roll dices when the hit happens and
> maybe people see words like a wonderfull roundhouse kick at face or a
> painfull fierce punch at ribs, but these manuvers don´t have special
> effects only nice hits, I just working in table, but this will valid for
> manuvers what in their description don´t have where hit like all basic
> manuvers and maybe another one manuver.

I like it, but be ready to over-rule it in favor of common sense. If I'm
doing a foot sweep, I'm probably not going to hit my opponent in the head
(unless he's Stuart Little).

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4782 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!

I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button, someone
would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4783 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
yea but the problem with that is, even a full twenty-hex Cartwheel Kick from
a mouse hybrid would result in nothing more than a mildly bruised ankle.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hoffmann [mailto:staredown@...]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:28 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Nice hits for tournament.




--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!

I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button, someone
would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4784 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> yea but the problem with that is, even a full twenty-hex Cartwheel Kick
> from
> a mouse hybrid would result in nothing more than a mildly bruised ankle.

Or less if you're stamina is greater than one. But on the plus side, just
like Gon from Tekken 3, most moves would pass right over his head and he'd
be just this side of impossible to grab.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4785 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
> > Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!
>
> I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button, someone
> would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.
>
No... a shotoclone electricity elemental :)
Group: streetfighter Message: 4786 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Pika pika peeee!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Little [mailto:infinite@...]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:01 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Nice hits for tournament.


> > Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!
>
> I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button, someone
> would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.
>
No... a shotoclone electricity elemental :)


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Group: streetfighter Message: 4787 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Steve Karstensen wrote:
> > > > Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!
> > > I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button,
> > > someone
> > > would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with
> > > ninjitsu.
> > No... a shotoclone electricity elemental :)
> Pika pika peeee!!!
No.. Pika pika peeedouken!!!
Group: streetfighter Message: 4788 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Charles Little <infinite@...> wrote:
> > I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button,
> someone
> > would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.
> >
> No... a shotoclone electricity elemental :)

Actually, Pickacu does figh barehanded in one episode, but he uses boxing
moves (and gloves) against a Hitmochan.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4789 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...> wrote:

> Actually, Pickacu does figh barehanded in one episode, but he uses
> boxing
> moves (and gloves) against a Hitmochan.

Yes I do occasionaly watch the yellow and kawaii incarnation of ultimate
evil. What's your point? (It's more endurable than watching microsoft or
that damn disney mouse).

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4790 From: Charles Little Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Chris Hoffmann wrote:

> > > I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the send button,
> > someone
> > > would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid, probably with ninjitsu.
> > >
> > No... a shotoclone electricity elemental :)
>
> Actually, Pickacu does figh barehanded in one episode, but he uses boxing
> moves (and gloves) against a Hitmochan.
>
I don't think any less of you for knowing this... really!
Group: streetfighter Message: 4791 From: Chris Hoffmann Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
--- Charles Little <infinite@...> wrote:

> > Actually, Pickacu does figh barehanded in one episode, but he uses
> boxing
> > moves (and gloves) against a Hitmochan.
> >
> I don't think any less of you for knowing this... really!

All I can say is that I was being controlled by the Necronomikawaii and
it's master, PikaCthulhu!
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4792 From: Josh Diemert Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
Who said Bison needs Long Distance Chi to kill him,
with his army of Revenants, loyal followers of the
Order of Heavenly Unity, a massive cadre of Street
Fighters, mad scientists galore, and many other,
wonderful means of eliminating opponents...If Bison
relied solely on his Dark Power, Shadowlaw wouldn't be
as big of a world threat....

Just so ya know...

Josh

--- Steve Karstensen
<skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> Better yet, say it's because he's pissed off Lord
> Bison one too many times.
> Long-range application of Chi is a bitch, y'know?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Hoffmann
> [mailto:staredown@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 8:29 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
>
>
>
>
> --- cliff rice <shinzite@...> wrote:
> I say kill the bastard
> > and make
> > him roll up a new one.
>
> And here's how you do it. Say to him, "Ok, it's
> morning and you're
> getting dressed. When you lean forward to tie your
> shoes, you head
> explodes. Just one of those things ya know?"
>

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4793 From: Josh Diemert Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Nice hits for tournament.
Already have one in my private campaigns, and she
studies Ler Drit...

Also have the other following hybrids:

A Cobra hybrid with Kung Fu
A Siberian Wolf with Sanbo
A Badger with Special Forces
A Gator with N.A. Wrestling
An Alley Cat with Wu Shu
A Rabbit with Western Kickboxing

And finally

A Komodo with Shotokan Karate (Dragon Punch anyone?)

--- Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- Steve Karstensen
> <skarstensen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Mouse hybrid! Mouse hybrid! MUAHAHA!!
>
> I knew, I mean I really knew, as soon as I hit the
> send button, someone
> would change their fighter to a mouse hybrid,
> probably with ninjitsu.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4794 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: Re: Problem players...
yea, but those methods are circumventable. Bison funnelling enough Chi into
your head to detonate it is not. ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Diemert [mailto:BoomerGold@...]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 3:40 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...


Who said Bison needs Long Distance Chi to kill him,
with his army of Revenants, loyal followers of the
Order of Heavenly Unity, a massive cadre of Street
Fighters, mad scientists galore, and many other,
wonderful means of eliminating opponents...If Bison
relied solely on his Dark Power, Shadowlaw wouldn't be
as big of a world threat....

Just so ya know...

Josh

--- Steve Karstensen
<skarstensen@...> wrote:
>
> Better yet, say it's because he's pissed off Lord
> Bison one too many times.
> Long-range application of Chi is a bitch, y'know?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Hoffmann
> [mailto:staredown@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 8:29 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Problem players...
>
>
>
>
> --- cliff rice <shinzite@...> wrote:
> I say kill the bastard
> > and make
> > him roll up a new one.
>
> And here's how you do it. Say to him, "Ok, it's
> morning and you're
> getting dressed. When you lean forward to tie your
> shoes, you head
> explodes. Just one of those things ya know?"
>

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4795 From: Timothy Poole Date: 12/20/1999
Subject: warriors pride 2
I was just wondering when Warriors Pride 2 was coming out?
Does anyone know, if so please post the date?
Thanx,
Shane
Group: streetfighter Message: 4796 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: warriors pride 2
All I have to do is write the closing comments. Expect it some day tommorow.
I'll notify the list as soon as I upload it to the vault.

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Poole <timothylpoole@...>
To: streetfighter@... <streetfighter@...>
Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:37 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] warriors pride 2


>I was just wondering when Warriors Pride 2 was coming out?
>Does anyone know, if so please post the date?
>Thanx,
>Shane
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4797 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: New Style.
I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.


Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: “You known how to fight?” This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: “Who said that? Please come here.” a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: “I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you.”
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: “Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?”

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick: Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt), Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt), Ground Figthing (4pt)

Block: Common manuvers.
Focus: Common manuvers.

New Manuver from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1
Group: streetfighter Message: 4798 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
A style like this actually exists. It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners. Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.


I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.


Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick: Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt), Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt), Ground Figthing (4pt)

Block: Common manuvers.
Focus: Common manuvers.

New Manuver from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1









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Group: streetfighter Message: 4799 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Realy? But anyone try convert it?

Steve Karstensen wrote:

A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.

Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

 Block: Common manuvers.
 Focus: Common manuvers.

 New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4800 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock this one have his history too, but the objective of both styles are different one for another.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.

Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

 Block: Common manuvers.
 Focus: Common manuvers.

 New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4801 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
I've been working on it in my (dubious) spare time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:28 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

Realy? But anyone try convert it?

Steve Karstensen wrote:

A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.

Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

 Block: Common manuvers.
 Focus: Common manuvers.

 New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4802 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Yea, but a lot of the maneuvers seem to be the same.  I compared the photos of Jailhouse Rock I have to the maneuver list for your style and there's a lot of similarities.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:31 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock this one have his history too, but the objective of both styles are different one for another.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.

Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

 Block: Common manuvers.
 Focus: Common manuvers.

 New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4803 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
If you have the info, I just belive but I don´t have any know about Jailhouse Rock style for true thing I make this style yesterday at night after play some STF 03 with Cody, but at last the history is a litle original don´t you think, and a question you known how much power points Chi Kung Healing cost to Baraqah style, I thank you if you known and can you send the Jailhouse Rock for I can see it, I can´t belive in coincidence but if you say this much similar I want see it for myself, thanks.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 Yea, but a lot of the maneuvers seem to be the same.  I compared the photos of Jailhouse Rock I have to the maneuver list for your style and there's a lot of similarities.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:31 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
 
And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock this one have his history too, but the objective of both styles are different one for another.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
action...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
be acept if the player want this.

Criminal Prison Style:

This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

Chi 1 Willpower 6
School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
New York, with Hamlet group.
Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
make a political discution?"

Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
(2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
Punch (4pt)
Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
(1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
Ruffian Kick (3pt)
Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
(2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
(2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

 Block: Common manuvers.
 Focus: Common manuvers.

 New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
it.

RUFFIAN KICK
REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
COST: 1 Willpower
SPEED: +1
DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
MOVE: +1

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Group: streetfighter Message: 4804 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
I'll see if I can scan the relevant pages from my book over the weekend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 5:52 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.


If you have the info, I just belive but I don´t have any know about
Jailhouse Rock style for true thing I make this style yesterday at night
after play some STF 03 with Cody, but at last the history is a litle
original don´t you think, and a question you known how much power points
Chi Kung Healing cost to Baraqah style, I thank you if you known and can
you send the Jailhouse Rock for I can see it, I can´t belive in
coincidence but if you say this much similar I want see it for myself,
thanks.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> Yea, but a lot of the maneuvers seem to be the same. I compared the
> photos of Jailhouse Rock I have to the maneuver list for your style
> and there's a lot of similarities.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:31 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
>
> And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American
> prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock
> this one have his history too, but the objective of both
> styles are different one for another.
>
> Steve Karstensen wrote:
>
> > A style like this actually exists. It's called "Jailhouse
> > Rock" and is
> > primarily the domain of African-American prisoners. Very
> > unique to see in
> > action...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.
> >
> > I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway
> > tournament start
> > at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth
> > against who,
> > tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers
> > and atributes
> > be acept if the player want this.
> >
> > Criminal Prison Style:
> >
> > This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is
> > brutal and serve
> > well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners
> > join in gang
> > prisions and make very organization to control the prison
> > world and
> > other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek
> > power and
> > just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their
> > boss want
> > control everything and one day against it a hand of a
> > prisioner start
> > the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired
> > green beret
> > who killed a drug dealer for this same drug dealer sold
> > his product to
> > his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too,
> > for Hamlet
> > vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick
> > dislike what
> > happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and
> > avoid
> > confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20
> > receiveing a big
> > punishment punches and kicks, three against one this
> > coward thing,
> > another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward
> > and dirty
> > things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major
> > lesson and they
> > retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to
> > be happen and
> > now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return
> > to courtyard
> > he found a small group of persons like him only want pay
> > for what they
> > have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick
> > acept the help
> > but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This
> > question make
> > many people confused everyone known how break a nose said
> > one voice of
> > crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here."
> > a huge guy
> > open space beetween the people and said: "I known how
> > break faces, we
> > are at same side but I can break your face to prove this
> > for you."
> > Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without
> > permanent wounds.
> > Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military
> > martial training and
> > make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this
> > he made a
> > good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many
> > prisioners
> > manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers
> > isn´t from
> > Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this
> > small group
> > defend theirselves against any attack from gang.
> >
> > Chi 1 Willpower 6
> > School: Only one place will teach this style the
> > Correction Prison of
> > New York, with Hamlet group.
> > Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape
> > prisioner.
> > Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you
> > want fight or
> > make a political discution?"
> >
> > Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt),
> > Spinning Knuckle
> > (2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head
> > Butt (1pt), Turn
> > Punch (4pt)
> > Kick: Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying
> > Thrust Kick (3pt),
> > Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double
> > Hit Kick
> > (1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick
> > (2pt),
> > Ruffian Kick (3pt)
> > Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb
> > (3pt), Air
> > Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),
> > Neck Choke
> > (2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold
> > (2pt), Disengage
> > (2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
> > Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt), Ground
> > Figthing (4pt)
> >
> > Block: Common manuvers.
> > Focus: Common manuvers.
> >
> > New Manuver from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver
> > but I like
> > it.
> >
> > RUFFIAN KICK
> > REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
> > POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu,
> > Kung Fu, JKD,
> > Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
> > SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to
> > represent the
> > following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown
> > to ground
> > opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1
> > damage.
> > COST: 1 Willpower
> > SPEED: +1
> > DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
> > MOVE: +1
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Group: streetfighter Message: 4805 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
Subject: Re: New Style.
Attachments :
    That brings up something I've been wondering about. Does anyone know just -what- Cody's fighting style is? Even though he his stage -is- during a jailbreak, and he is wearing the prison stripes, his style can't be a prison style. After all, he was fighting in Final Fight, and that happened before SFA3. Not just in real life, but also in the storyline.
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br>
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:50 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.

    If you have the info, I just belive but I don´t have any know about Jailhouse Rock style for true thing I make this style yesterday at night after play some STF 03 with Cody, but at last the history is a litle original don´t you think, and a question you known how much power points Chi Kung Healing cost to Baraqah style, I thank you if you known and can you send the Jailhouse Rock for I can see it, I can´t belive in coincidence but if you say this much similar I want see it for myself, thanks.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     Yea, but a lot of the maneuvers seem to be the same.  I compared the photos of Jailhouse Rock I have to the maneuver list for your style and there's a lot of similarities.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:31 PM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: New Style.
    And more my style isn´t exclusive for African-American prisioners and have own history different of Jailhouse Rock this one have his history too, but the objective of both styles are different one for another.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

    A style like this actually exists.  It's called "Jailhouse Rock" and is
    primarily the domain of African-American prisoners.  Very unique to see in
    action...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rinaldo Gambetta [mailto:rinaldo@ez-poa.com.br]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:02 AM
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com
    Subject: [streetfighter] New Style.

    I love create new style, this one is good. Ps: Gateway tournament start
    at 1/1/2000, and I already post the groups and who figth against who,
    tactics changes will be welcome, and a change of manuvers and atributes
    be acept if the player want this.

    Criminal Prison Style:

    This style isn´t a philosophy or meditation thing is brutal and serve
    well his use or I mean protect his user, many prisioners join in gang
    prisions and make very organization to control the prison world and
    other things outside, but exist some people who don´t seek power and
    just try to hold their own lives but the gangs and their boss want
    control everything and one day against it a hand of a prisioner start
    the movement his name is Patrick Hamlet, a former retired green beret
    who killed a drug dealer for  this same drug dealer sold his product to
    his young daughter and now she is dead and so he is too, for Hamlet
    vison eye for eye and teeth for teeth, but this it Patrick dislike what
    happening in prison but don´t interfere he stay alone and avoid
    confusion but one day he see a kid age about 19 or 20 receiveing a big
    punishment punches and kicks, three against one this coward thing,
    another thing about Patrick he dislike any type of coward and dirty
    things resuming he give for the three thugs a big major lesson and they
    retire to tell this facts to their boss. A war is going to be happen and
    now Patrick is alone against them, no after that he return to courtyard
    he found a small group of persons like him only want pay for what they
    have done offter to him a hand against the gang. Patrick acept the help
    but first ask for everyone: "You known how to fight?" This question make
    many people confused everyone known how break a nose said one voice of
    crowd. Patrick replies: "Who said that? Please come here." a huge guy
    open space beetween the people and said: "I known how break faces, we
    are at same side but I can break your face to prove this for you."
    Resuming again the huge guy going to ground without permanent wounds.
    Patrick begin teach some knowledges of his military martial training and
    make a mix with other prisioners knowledges, and with this he made a
    good and compact style. this manuvers are a mix of many prisioners
    manuvers because this don´t see and note if some manuvers isn´t from
    Special forces trainign, and with these trainnign this small group
    defend theirselves against any attack from gang.

    Chi 1 Willpower 6
    School: Only one place will teach this style the Correction Prison of
    New York, with Hamlet group.
    Concept: Retired Criminal, Hermit prisoner, Escape prisioner.
    Quote: "Man... I tired of talk, this nonsense what do you want fight or
    make a political discution?"

    Punch: Elbow Smash (1pt), Spinning Back Fist (1pt), Spinning Knuckle
    (2pt), Knife Hand Strike (4pt), Fist Sweep (2pt), Head Butt (1pt), Turn
    Punch (4pt)
    Kick:  Ax Kick(3pt), Flying Knee Thrust (1pt), Flying Thrust Kick (3pt),
    Back Flip Kick (3pt), Reversal Frontal Kick (1pt), Double Hit Kick
    (1pt), Double Hit Knee (1pt), Foot Sweep (1pt), Slide Kick (2pt),
    Ruffian Kick (3pt)
    Grab: Brain Cracker (1pt), Suplex (1pt), Dislocated Limb (3pt), Air
    Throw (2pt), Back Roll Throw (1pt), Stomach Pump (3pt),  Neck Choke
    (2pt), Head Bite (1pt), Bear Hug (1pt), Head Butt Hold (2pt), Disengage
    (2pt), Grabling Defense (3pt).
    Athletics: Air Smash (1pt), Thunder Strike (1pt),  Ground Figthing (4pt)

     Block: Common manuvers.
     Focus: Common manuvers.

     New Manuver  from Matt conversions page- Isn´t my manuver but I like
    it.

    RUFFIAN KICK
    REQUIREMENTS: Kick 3
    POWER POINTS: Brawling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Wu Shu, Kung Fu, JKD,
    Criminal Prison Style 3, any 4
    SYSTEM: make 3 different combat cards for this move to represent the
    following 3 benefits you can choose from, causes knockdown to ground
    opponents, causes knockdown to aerial opponents, or +1 damage.
    COST: 1 Willpower
    SPEED: +1
    DAMAGE: +2 (+3)
    MOVE: +1

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    Group: streetfighter Message: 4806 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 12/21/1999
    Subject: Warrior's Pride #2 - Now Available
    That's right...I've released WP #2 and you can find it in the Vault. Both
    the .doc and .txt versions are quite a bit larger (the .doc being 306K
    compared to the 168K of #1, and the .txt version being 117.3K compared to
    the 36K of #1). This is due to more submissions and, in the .doc version at
    least, an incredible title graphic thanks to J. Scott Pittman. I hope
    everyone enjoys!