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Group: streetfighter Message: 2505 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2506 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: gateway Tournament
Group: streetfighter Message: 2507 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2508 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Dogs of War Yahoo! club
Group: streetfighter Message: 2509 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2510 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2511 From: Darrick Chen Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Gamezone
Group: streetfighter Message: 2512 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Honour?
Group: streetfighter Message: 2513 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Group: streetfighter Message: 2514 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Group: streetfighter Message: 2515 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2516 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2517 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2518 From: Andy Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Poll resutls..
Group: streetfighter Message: 2519 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Group: streetfighter Message: 2520 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2521 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2522 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: List activity....
Group: streetfighter Message: 2523 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Batman (was: Contenders 2)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2524 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Batman (was: Contenders 2)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2525 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2526 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2527 From: clk_whrr_chad@yahoo.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Charcters Stats
Group: streetfighter Message: 2528 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2529 From: clk_whrr_chad@yahoo.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Web Page
Group: streetfighter Message: 2530 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Honour?
Group: streetfighter Message: 2531 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2532 From: Andy Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Charcters Stats
Group: streetfighter Message: 2533 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Gateway Tournament
Group: streetfighter Message: 2534 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: New additions to Street Fighter Ultra
Group: streetfighter Message: 2535 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2536 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Charcters Stats
Group: streetfighter Message: 2537 From: shadaloo@uol.com.br Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: (no subject)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2538 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2539 From: shadaloo@uol.com.br Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: (no subject)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2540 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2541 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2542 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2543 From: Charles Little Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2544 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2545 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2546 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: (Batman) Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2547 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2548 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2549 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2550 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2551 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2552 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Group: streetfighter Message: 2553 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Group: streetfighter Message: 2554 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:



Group: streetfighter Message: 2505 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Hey! Lassie would use Dog-FU!
-- Chris B


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>From: JSorochins@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Re:
>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 9:48 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/7/99 5:42:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> cbaker@... writes:
>
> << Hey, we should do some alternate universe streetfighters. like GI Pokemon,
> A
> Real American Hero! Or Transvestitesailormoonformers More Than Meets The
> Eye. Maybe even Mighty Morphin Smurf Rangers.
>
> Any more suggestions?
> >>
>
> How about a Streetfighter, Marvel, DC, Image, Babylon 5, Star Trek, Star
> Wars, Xena, Hercules, Tolkien, Eddings, CS Lewis, Inferno, Shakesphere,
> Mortal Kombat, Tekken and Lassie crossover.
>
> Nah, its been done to death.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2506 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: gateway Tournament
If is valid is okay for me just take easy, I don´t know much about it
you know
the atribute bonus or natural atacks (animal hybrid), and for the
beggining one
fighter for player is enough, or can be have a cross among the fighters
of same
person and you know...
Just send me him or she with his/her origin coutry you know Japan,
U.S.A. And of
course a original quote and ten moves tatic (Send this one for my
e-mail, no to
the list). And I will begin this when I have more people in the game.
Thanks.

Andy wrote:

> Hey there.... Looking for fighters? I have a few PC's from various fighters
> that are itching to do battle. One question thought, when you say that they
> must all be Rank 1 fighters..... How about extra Background Characters? I
> have a Few Cyborgs and Hybrids that want to enter in the tourni.. would they
> be alowed?
> Thanx
> Andy.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2507 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 10/7/99 7:01:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< Hey! Lassie would use Dog-FU!
-- Chris B >>


Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Jeet Kune Dog

The Amazing Sorochinski
Group: streetfighter Message: 2508 From: J. Scott Pittman Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Dogs of War Yahoo! club
Glad to announce that if you go to yahoo! clubs, rpg, live action (the
catagory that lists all the white wolf games) you will find Street Fighter:
The Dogs of War as a "favorite" club. We've only got seven members so far,
but hey! We are on the list, and that's groovy
-----Original Message-----
From: JSorochins@... <JSorochins@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 7:05 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Re:


>In a message dated 10/7/99 7:01:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>cbaker@... writes:
>
><< Hey! Lassie would use Dog-FU!
> -- Chris B >>
>
>
>Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Jeet Kune Dog
>
>The Amazing Sorochinski
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2509 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
Lassie's stage can have little Timmy stuck down the well! I could see a
black Beauty team up against Flipper and Benji. WOW! WHAT A FIGHT!!! WOOF
KEN! SHO BARK KEN!
Lassie has to find someone to save Timmy, which takes him all the way to
Migranka where he faces off with Bison! EXCELLENT!
Then, at Lassie's darkest hour, Ryu show's up riding Black Beauty (who we
thought was dead when Benji laid the smackdown on him)
Ryu fights Bison, while Black Beauty and Lassie Tag team Bison's pet Killer
Whale Orca! Evil gets trounced, this time.
Timmy is saved, Ryu wanders on with Black beauty as his student And Lassie
settles down and marries Babe the talking pig.
But, in the shadows, Jaws and Rin Tin Tin secretly plot to destroy Timmy for
shooting their general Old Yeller.
It would be a great ending, full of passion, action, suspense, horror and a
potential sequel.

-- Chris B


----------
>From: JSorochins@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Re:
>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 9:48 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/7/99 5:42:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> cbaker@... writes:
>
> << Hey, we should do some alternate universe streetfighters. like GI Pokemon,
> A
> Real American Hero! Or Transvestitesailormoonformers More Than Meets The
> Eye. Maybe even Mighty Morphin Smurf Rangers.
>
> Any more suggestions?
> >>
>
> How about a Streetfighter, Marvel, DC, Image, Babylon 5, Star Trek, Star
> Wars, Xena, Hercules, Tolkien, Eddings, CS Lewis, Inferno, Shakesphere,
> Mortal Kombat, Tekken and Lassie crossover.
>
> Nah, its been done to death.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2510 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 10/7/99 7:17:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< Lassie's stage can have little Timmy stuck down the well! I could see a
black Beauty team up against Flipper and Benji. WOW! WHAT A FIGHT!!! WOOF
KEN! SHO BARK KEN!
Lassie has to find someone to save Timmy, which takes him all the way to
Migranka where he faces off with Bison! EXCELLENT!
Then, at Lassie's darkest hour, Ryu show's up riding Black Beauty (who we
thought was dead when Benji laid the smackdown on him)
Ryu fights Bison, while Black Beauty and Lassie Tag team Bison's pet Killer
Whale Orca! Evil gets trounced, this time.
Timmy is saved, Ryu wanders on with Black beauty as his student And Lassie
settles down and marries Babe the talking pig.
But, in the shadows, Jaws and Rin Tin Tin secretly plot to destroy Timmy for
shooting their general Old Yeller.
It would be a great ending, full of passion, action, suspense, horror and a
potential sequel. >>


Hmmm... And animals always sell. But we need star power.. Do you think
Leonardo DiCaprio is available to play Timmy? Maybe Jackie Chan for Ryu?
And how about Van Damme for Guile (er...no scratch that...Really really bad
idea...Nobody would be as stupid as to cast HIM as Guile)
Group: streetfighter Message: 2511 From: Darrick Chen Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Gamezone
The answer is YES, I am now accepting new applications for the online SF
campaign. Although, depending on how many people sign up, I may have to run
more than one campaign at a time. Nevertheless, I am holding an
informational meeting online at the chat page on Friday the 8th at midnight
central time. Be there if you can.

And my apologies, the address is

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/storyboysgamezone

NOTE TO ALL CURRENT NEW LEGENDS ONLINE PLAYERS:

Please attend tomorrow's meeting so I can determine the details of
Saturday's session. And, so that anyone with questions can ask some of you
"veterans".

Hope to see you all there,

Darrick Chen

New Legends Online

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Group: streetfighter Message: 2512 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Honour?
Hey Rinaldo,,,Its ok Ive gbeen really busy latley and i still havnt made
that random dice generator.
Ill try to work on it soon, good to have you back. Ill mack a character and
show him to you.


>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
>Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:10:30 -0300
>
>
>Hi, Folks I'm out of line for a while because a few problems with my modem
>but I
>return. Yeah I said it to my Game master too, but...
>Hey Robert I�m ready for that test fight, I�m just waiting you and some
>other
>people. I make it like Bloodsport movie, two groups and the winner go on
>and the
>loser is out of the game.
>Robert Pascuttini wrote:
>
> > Hey A.J
> > Ok I got it.
> > I disagree with some of what you said. I didnt say that honour was self
> > veiw. Honour is more a matter of the self. So even if people
> > see you do something odd and ther against it, but if its right , its
>right.
> > The best example is from the lone wolf and cub movie. Another
> > samurai asks the baby carriage samurai that if he had to do something to
> > save his lord even agianst the lords wishs, would he have done it.
> > The baby carriage samurai agrees he would have.
> > Then the other samurai continues by saying that such situation happened
>to
> > him and he did the same, and yet got punished after by losing rank.
> >
> > Another example is in the highlander T.V series.
> > The character "Mcloud", i beleive, is having a back flash of when he
>went to
> > japan. He saved another samurai and this samurai took him in,
> > but the samurais lord had decreed no forigners on the land and any one
>who
> > harboured one must kill the forigner or die.
> > The samurai had no choice but to commit seppuku.
> > The highlander tryed to interfere saying that the samurai could actually
> > kill him..as he would simply come back to life.
> > The samurai still couldnt, as it was against the spirit of his lord.
> >
> > In the orient face is a big thing. Even here, Anyhting you do you are
> > representing your school/family. Your work life, your social life etc.
> >
> > >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:35:51 -0700
> > >
> > >much of honor is not self-view. It is to us, of course, but not to many
> > >cultures. Think of Japan - many. many decisions were based on gaining
>or
> > >losing "face" - honor in the view of other people. Whether or not we
>like
> > >to
> > >admit it, most of us do care what other people think of us, and this
>ties
> > >in
> > >to our self-view.
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:46 PM
> > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Yes thats pretty interesting. I didnt think of it that way.
> > > >but honour has more to do with the self than other people.
> > > >an honourable person would do whats right even if people disagreed.
> > > >
> > > >Arggh thats not quite right give me a bit to think on that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > > >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:03:23 -0700
> > > >>
> > > >>Honor is a matter of not only how you see yourself but how others
>see
> > >you
> > > >>as
> > > >>well. So there would have been an honor loss if your friends came in
>and
> > > >>killed a man that had challenged you to an honor duel, and especialy
> > >when
> > > >>you had agreed! Such a match is SUPPOSED to be fought without
>outside
> > > >>assistance. I beleive you and your companions acted in a
>dishonorable
> > > >>fashion. If Lancealot had taken the same challenge, he wouldnt have
>had
> > > >>Glaahd and King Aurther come help if he started losing!
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
> > > >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >>Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 8:31 PM
> > > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Well I was playing (and yet playing) with a kendo and
>contender
> > >for
> > > >> >samurai guy called Alxion Yarashi, and my companions are a Savate
> > >"clow"
> > > >>guy
> > > >> >(He dresse like a medieval times court pierrot) named Pierce Du
>Fonse
> > > >>and
> > > >>a
> > > >> >German Brawler called H�rst and the situation is a fantasy
>adventure
> > >in
> > > >> >medieval times, we are in royal court when Knight call me for a
>honor
> > > >> >challenge, me like all honor guy acept, but the knight fights very
>and
> > >I
> > > >> >near to lose when my friends came to help me. To resume they
>killed
> > >the
> > > >> >knight and all people of kingdom are watching and for crimes of
>murder
> > > >>and
> > > >> >cowards we are going to the prison and maybe we die... And I lose
> > >honor
> > > >>for
> > > >> >that, you belive a thing like that?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >ronineric@... wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> "morgado, mike" <mmorgad-@...> wrote:
> > > >> >> original
> > >article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2268
> > > >> >> > This brings up a good point. A few years ago in a game, I was
> > > >> >> playing a
> > > >> >> > boxer, and a friend of mine was playing a Special Forces
>character
> > > >> >> who had
> > > >> >> > high honour. In our first team fight, the boxer disposed of
>his
> > > >> >> opponent in
> > > >> >> > quick order. (one punch, it was beautiful :) The Special
>Forces
> > > >> >> character
> > > >> >> > dizzied his opponent and stood back to wait for his opponent
>to
> > > >> >> recover.
> > > >> >> > However the boxer, clocked the special forces' opponent and
> > >knocked
> > > >> >> him out.
> > > >> >> > This caused the Special Forces character to lecture the boxer
> > >about
> > > >> >> honour,
> > > >> >> > in the middle of the team fight. The boxer had no idea of
>honour,
> > >he
> > > >> >> was a
> > > >> >> > boxer. When a boxer has someone on the ropes, he doesnt stop
>and
> > >let
> > > >> >> them
> > > >> >> > recover, he goes in for the kill. It was great roleplaying
> > >between
> > > >> >> these
> > > >> >> > two.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Has anyone had characters clash because of morality and
>honour?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Mike Morgado
> > > >> >> > mmorgado@...
> > > >> >> > ext. 642
> > > >> >> > (519) 383-3642
> > > >> >> > PC/ITS
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes Acually, In A team Fight with a shadowlaw team the most
> > >honorable
> > > >> >> PC in hhe party killed the team outright just when they reached
>zero
> > > >> >> health, via Inferno strike...he felt it was justified, they
>were
> > >evil
> > > >> >> after all, but in the end he lost one permanent honor per kill,
>and
> > > >> >> worse yet the storyteller ruled that the spark of "evil-intent"
> > >began
> > > >> >> to burn in him.
> > > >> >> the moral i guess is that honor is as it is percived, and
>acted
> > > >> >> upon. that means if it looks like a good idea but moraly wrong
>than
> > >it
> > > >> >> is wrong and dishonrable
> > > >> >> O.K later
> > > >> >> Ronin Eric
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2513 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Hrmm ok. I dont think dhalsim retired to be a family man.
Buddist monks are allowed to marry last I checked....
just a note.


>From: JSorochins@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:25:53 EDT
>
>In a message dated 10/5/99 6:43:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>staredown@... writes:
>
><< Dhalsim: retires to live with his family (see a trend developing here?)
> >>
>
>I agree with most of the suggestions except this one. Somehow, Dhalsim has
>managed to be both a Buddhist monk AND a family man. (Don't ask me how he
>managed that) so why would he quit? Also, monkhood is not something most
>monks retire from. I mean, there is hardly a manditory retiremnet age.
>_maybe_ I could see him becoming a hermit, retiring from the world
>(especially if something has happened to his family). It would be in
>keeping
>with Buddist teachings. Plus, that way, the characters in the game could
>have a scenario where they have to track him down and convince him to take
>an
>interest in worldly matters.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2514 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Ok Just a point to everyone out there.
Kabaddi in actual life is not a fighting system.
I have talked to many indian friends in refference to kabbadi.

Kabbadi is a game...with no relation to what dhalsim does.
What dhalsim does is yoga with fighting aspect.

Sorry to everyone. but my time lately has been real short so my messages
wont be long. more quick and to the point.


>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:38:47 -0700
>
>Kabaddi is obviously a style similar (based on I'm sure) to Kalari, the
>represenative martial art of India (practiced in the southern Indian state
>of Kerala). Kalari is closely tied to Hinduism.
> However, the Street Fighter book says Kabaddi practitioners study Dhyana
>Buddhism (Zen in Japan).
> Buddhism and Hindusim are two seperate belief systems, Buddhism
>(self-enlightenment) being primarily paracticed in Aisa (which is made up
>of
>China, India, Indonesia, Japan and South Korea), and Hinduism
>(reincarnation beliefs as well as belief in thousands of gods) being
>practiced mostly in India.
> My take is Dhalsim is that he practices Buddhism, of course, since he
>could have been raised in India without practicing Hinduism, but rather
>Buddhism.
> Therefore, I beleive that Kabaddi is another, completely diffrent yet
>very
>similar in form of martial arts to Kalari. For characters who wish to learn
>the Kalari style, I would simply use the Statistics for Kabaddi, just
>change
>the background of the character.
> I hope this helps clarify things a bit.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
>streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:04 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>
>
> >Dhalsim is Hindu, just like Apu from the Simpsons. (being east Indian he
> >probably sounds like him too) Hindi can get married. Where do you think
> >Tantric sex magic comes from anyway? Not to mention the Kama Sutra
> >techniques.
> >
> >-- Chris B
> >
> >
> >----------
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> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >>Date: Wed, Oct 6, 1999, 9:50 PM
> >>
> >
> >> In a message dated 10/6/99 9:09:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> staredown@... writes:
> >>
> >> << He's buddist? I always though he was hindu. (Not that it matters
>since
> >> my knowledge of both of them together barely fills a thimble).
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe I did read that somewhere, which I do agree is odd, since
>there
>are
> >> not many Buddhists left in India. Of course, now that I am looking for
>it I
> >> can"t find it anywhere.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2515 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Actully alot of the SF guys are pretty evil in the first version of there
games.
Dhalsim wasnt to friendly when they first showed him.
If he beat you he would say something along the lines of "YOu have lost, Now
I will destroy you!".
Ibuki isnt to nice in SF3 either. If she beats you she says "You have seen
the ninja secrets now I must kill you."


>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:43:04 -0700
>
>Batman:
>http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/batman.htm
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
>streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:41 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>
>
> >I have nooo idea why he is wearing the skulls. :)
> >I've heard many versions, like: they're the skulls of three Yoga masters
> >from ages past who were presented to Dhalsim as holy relics. and of
>course
> >the three kids dying of starvation, kinda gruesome to me, but I'm not
>Hindu,
> >so I guess I shouldn't judge.
> >It is a mystery that has plagued me for quite some time.
> >I KNOW! I'll make it my Quest! I'll start with Capcom of Japan.
> >If I find out anything, I'll post it. ;)
> >
> >-- Chris B
> >
> >
> >----------
> >>From: JSorochins@...
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 1:22 AM
> >>
> >
> >> In a message dated 10/6/99 9:24:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> cbaker@... writes:
> >>
> >> << Anyone who follows Streetfighter knows that it's American history
>and
> >> original Japanese history differ greatly. There were many reasons for
>the
> >> name changes (like Vega in Japan ,being named Bison in the US), most
>of
>them
> >> probably had to do with translation whimsy as well as trademark
>rights.
> >> History wise Most North Americans wouldn't know a Hindu from a
>Muslim,
> >> and in the Streetfighter RPG this is painfully evident. To be sure,
>Dhalsim
> >> In his original Japanese character concept, is Hindu. Any history
>written by
> >> White Wolf was White Wolf's alone (Maybe assisted by one of those
>above
> >> mentioned North American). Use whatever you THINK is official, but for
>me,
> >> the best version is the first. And, for those of you who actually play
> >> Streetfighter 2, Ganesh, (I believe) is the elephant-headed god
>presented in
> >> Dhalsim's stage, not Buddha, Who you will find on Sagat's stage
>because
> >> Thailand and Buddhism are quite familiar. >>
> >>
> >> Sorry if I came off a bit snotty before. And it is not like Buddhism
>and
> >> Hinduism aren't related. And when I said official before, I meant rpg
> >> official, I have no idea what the official Japanese Capchron version
>is.
> >> And, myself personally, I kind of like the bizarreness of Dhalsim being
>a
> >> married Buddhist Indian monk, but I am odd that way. Now the real
>question
> >> is, why is he wearing those skulls? I heard a story that they were the
> >> skulls of children who died of starvation in Calcutta (to draw
>attention
>to
> >> their plight) but I have no idea if that is just a fan explaination or
>what.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2516 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Actually he prety much is perfeect.
Suposedly he is the closest thing to a perfect human speciman.
I have the old bat man role playing game.
according to the game it would be easier to take out batman Physically
then mentally or spiritually. And according to the comic he knows, Savate,
Jiujitsu
and a ton of other arts. Along with getting one of the highest scores
required to join the FBI(with the exception of fire arms) a piloting
liscence by the time he was 19-20. Went to scotland yard.
The only place he lacks is in house work. couldnt make his own breakfeast or
wash his clothes worth a damn.
He has supposedly over exceeded his strength on times
His mind could have been a master in physics as he has disarmed nuclear
bombs as well once.
While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremelly well against
superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy.


>From: Charles Little <infinite@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > hahah yeah I know. But that's batman. But if you beat batman in the
>ring...
> > hwta bragging rights you would have...
>
>I don't agree. IMO, Batman wins because he is determined and prepared,
>not because he's perfect. 10 willpower, 5 stamina, 5 wits. The others
>are 4 or 3 (maybe even a couple of ::gasp:: average stats :-D ) And any
>three combat maneuvers to a dizzy? That's a _bit_ overpowered don't you
>think?
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2517 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
thats a horrible joke, You should be ashamed of your self.(Laugh).
Just kidding, that was pretty funny.



>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com ,
>streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:21:14 -0400
>
>Could you imagine getting hit with Einstein's Fireball??!!! It would be
>Atomic!
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
> >From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
> >Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 4:59 PM
> >
>
> > Ok lets see...
> >
> > here's what I would do with Batman (using Streetfighter, the players
>guide,
> > secrets of Shadaloo and maybe a little world of darkness for good
>measure)
> >
> > ATTRIBUTES
> >
> > Strength 4 (Batman is in excellent physical shape, But even in the
>animated
> > series he has encountered big mafia mooks who were stronger)
> >
> > Dexterity 5 (when compared to the other streetfighters, I think this is
> > fair)
> >
> > Stamina 4/5 (This is a rough one, since running a marathon (4) is 26
>miles
> > 385 yards it's probably pretty close to human endurance
> > limits. But stamina also is supposed to represent
>toughness.
> > so I would say Stamina 4 Toughness 5 If I could.)
> >
> > Charisma 3 (People trust and confide in you, it would be detrimental for
> > Bruce Wayne to be too charismatic, besides he probably blows
>off
> > a lot of engagements to pursue his dual life. He can't
>afford to
> > draw people to him.(4) He's a loner, NOT a leader.)
> >
> > Manipulation 5 (Batman is a fast talker, and his knowledge fuels this.
>Not
> > to mention he is an excellent disguise artist)
> >
> > Appearance 3/4 (Bruce Wayne is supposed to be pretty good looking, but I
> > don't think he was ever supposed to be model material.
> > although Ryu has a 4 so it's acceptable.)
> >
> > Perception 6 (this is where Batman really shines, perception
>extraordinare.
> > He may even have a seven)
> >
> > Intelligence 4 (Batman is a Genius to be sure, But he's not Einstein
>(5))
> >
> > Wits 5 (Batman can think on or off his feet, faster than almost anyone.
>I'd
> > say this comes mostly from his massive experience though.)
> >
> > Talents
> >
> > Alertness 5, Insight 5, Interrogation 4, Intimidation 5 (in Batsuit),
> > Streetwise 4, Subterfuge 5
> >
> > SKILLS
> >
> > Blindfighting 4 (Batman has been surprised in the dark), Drive 4,
>leadership
> > 2 (He can demand silence), Security 4 (expert), Stealth 5, survival 2
>(he
> > reads about the wilderness I'm sure, There are others far more competent
>in
> > this area I'm sure.)
> >
> > KNOWLEDGES
> >
> > Arena 1 (maybe, I'm sure his computer would know.), Computer(somewhere
> > between 2 and 5, we really don't know how much of this ability comes
>from
> > the excellent equipment developed by Wayne Enterprises, NOT Batman.)
> > Investigation 5 (no doubt there), Medicine 4/5 (probably had paramedic
> > training), Mysteries 3 (I'll bet he can tell a yeti from a Sasquatch)
>Style
> > Lore 3/4 (he could probably teach a class, if he had the time.)
> >
> > HONOR 4 GLORY 10 (everyone's heard of Batman)
> >
> > BACKGROUNDS
> >
> > Allies (a few), ANIMAL COMPANION 3/4 (Batdog and Batmite Ha Ha Just
> > kidding), Arena 0 (Batcave is a secret guys.), Backing 4/5 (Wayne
> > Enterprises is probably the Dupont of that world), Contacts 5 (the man
>is
> > connected), Fame 4, Resources 5, Sensei 3 (at one time an excellent
>sensei
> > who was hard to reach), Staff (who knows, personal staff would probably
>be
> > limited to no more than three)
> >
> > TECHNIQUES
> >
> > Punch 5, Kick 3/4 (Batman never struck me as much of a kicker ha ha),
>Block
> > 4/5, grab 5 (he can sure throw), Athletics 4 (no better than Ken or Ryu)
> > Focus 2 Batarang/grapplegun 4
> >
> > CHI 5 (because of experience), WILLPOWER 10, Health 20
> >
> > DERANGEMENT, Obsession with crime/revenge (uh.. he is crazy you know)
> >
> > STYLE this one is difficult, too many histories abound, I would use an
> > original style by combining Ninjitsu, Boxing, and maybe Aikido, and
>Karate.
> >
> > COMBOS bought Just like any other Streetfighter. He would probably have
>a
> > one two punch combo of some sort, or even a block throw combo. But he
>can
> > definitely not combine any non weapon maneuver into a dizzy combo.
> >
> > Oh yeah! and while I'm bagging RYU should not have a 5 Int Per and Wits.
> > This was passed because of the mental attributes/chi abilities thing.
>For
> > chi damage I use Willpower/2 round up.
> >
> > And what is it with Dhalsim only having a 3 dexterity? The guy is like
> > rubber. I would give him a 6, But he's slow so I would count Speed as a
> > three.
> >
> > -- Chris B
> >
> >
> > ----------
> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
> >>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 12:40 PM
> >>
> >
> >> not really. I have red time and time again that Batman (in his
>universe,
> >> which is a powerfuL one (to say the least), is in perfect physical and
> >> mental condition. he's a master manipulator and planner, and attractive
> >> doesn't begin to describe him (thats in the books, I dont find him
> >> attractive, haha). he is one of DCs greatest martial artists, and Ive
>seen
> >> comics where batman takes on DOZENS of guys, and even a group of ninjas
>and
> >> mops the floor with them. Only the greatest fighters even come close to
> >> giving him a challenge. Even Bane, an augmented fighter of monsterous
>size,
> >> made sure to weaken Batman over a period of DAYS before facing him.
> >> I would prefer Batman to be weaker than I have presented him - but if
>I
> >> did, i don't think I would be doing the character justice. 3
>perception? 4
> >> Wits? No way - I saw a picture in an elseworlds ad where Batman was
>giving
> >> Sherlock Holmes pointers! 5 strength, obviously, 5 dex, without a doubt
> >> (leaping from rooftop to rooftop helps, not to mention dodging multiple
> >> weapon attacks at once). Batman is simply perfect in nearly every way.
>10
> >> Willpower? All the way. Batman has had the willpower to fight crime,
>without
> >> stopping, every night, for years. also remember in one comic where he
>had
> >> been tourtoured for days, but still had clarity of thought.
> >> However, if you'll notice, I did not give batman any of my Weapon
> >> maneuvers, and he has no Dragon Punch or other inhuman powers, no
> >> Superhumnan Attributes, and no Focus powers at all.
> >> If you don't prefer these statistics, please feel free to modify them
>if
> >> you want to use Batman, but I diddnt just make this up, I really though
> >> about each part of the character and what I though those statistics
>should
> >> be. Hope most of you liked him, anyway. =)
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Charles Little <infinite@...>
> >> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:08 AM
> >> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
> >>
> >>
> >>>> hahah yeah I know. But that's batman. But if you beat batman in the
> >> ring...
> >>>> hwta bragging rights you would have...
> >>>
> >>>I don't agree. IMO, Batman wins because he is determined and prepared,
> >>>not because he's perfect. 10 willpower, 5 stamina, 5 wits. The others
> >>>are 4 or 3 (maybe even a couple of ::gasp:: average stats :-D ) And
>any
> >>>three combat maneuvers to a dizzy? That's a _bit_ overpowered don't
>you
> >>>think?
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2518 From: Andy Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Poll resutls..
Well it looks like we have a LOT of experienced gamers on this list, which
makes me beg to wonder if I'm the only young'un on the list..... I was born
20/70/81 which puts me at 18 now...
Ahh well. I musn't be as weel cultured a RP'er then.. Althoguth i have been
with SF:tSTG since day one.

As far as the 7 people who voted in teh poll (thanx) here are the results
after roughly a week.

The poll in now free for anyone who wants to use it.....if not I shall use
it as I WISH!!! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHA!!!
<Temporary influx o' psycho power>

"Here are the results of the vote:

1. I think that both moves have their place in the game 1
2. Cartwheel Kick? Is that in any of the video games? 2
3. Change the Stats on Cart Kick!!!! 2
4. Speed of the Mongoose to Cartwheel Kick (dizzy) = OH NO!!! 2

".


Andy
Group: streetfighter Message: 2519 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: 20 years later
Hey.. you talked to lance!
Yah I talked to him as well once in regards to certain questions about
street fighter as well. But I think I swamped him a bit.
Im starting to think he's the only guy a capcom who knows anything about SF.


>From: "Chris Baker" <cbaker@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com , streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 19:02:10 -0400
>
>Hey guys This is what I got from Customer Service. Not quite good enough
>for
>me But I'll keep looking.
>
>
>
>Hello,
>
>Thank you for your recent correspondence. We always welcome your comments
>and questions, and are glad you took the time to share them with us.
>
>I'm thrilled to hear of your interest in video games. There was no
>significant meaning with the skull, except that it look good on Dhaslim.
>We
>will be sure to let you and all our avid fans out there know for any new
>developments as they arise. You should also monitor our web site
>www.capcom.com for the latest information regarding Promotions, New
>Releases, and Industry News.
>
>On behalf of all of us at Capcom, I would like to thank you for choosing
>Capcom products and for your continued support. Don't forget you can also
>call our Game Play Hotline at (900) 680-2583 for game play assistance or
>information on new releases. You must be 18 years or older or have parental
>permission to call our 900 number. It costs $0.99 per minute for 24 hours
>pre-recorded information or $1.35 per minute for live Game Counselor
>assistance. From Canada, dial 1-900-677-2272, and the cost is $1.35 per
>minute.
>
>You can also call us at (408) 774-0400 for warranty, repair, and technical
>support or order information. Our representatives would be happy to assist
>you; they are here Monday through Friday 8:30 AM- 5PM, Pacific Standard
>Time. Remember this line is for customer services only no game hints will
>be
>given.
>
>Great gamers like you help make Capcom the hottest video game company in
>the
>business. Good luck, and happy gaming!
>
>Best wishes,
>
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>CS Number: (408) 774-0400
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Baker [mailto:cbaker@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 11:55 PM
>To: webmaster@...
>Subject: Hi you might think this is silly but...
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
> >From: JSorochins@...
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 5:05 PM
> >
>
> > In a message dated 10/7/99 6:11:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > staredown@... writes:
> >
> > << Well, it's not _just_ a fan explanation, in the Tokima (sp?) manga
>Dhalsim
> > explains to Ryu that they were three children who starved to death
>while
> > he was caring for them (they were too far gone by the time he go to
>them).
> >
> > That manga was, I believe, licensed by Capcom, so it's probably at
>least
> > semi-official. >>
> >
> >
> > Cool, now I know at least were the story comes from. When I first
>started
> > playing SF2 I always thought Dhalsim was supposed to be evil. But then
> > again, I thought Ryu was evil because I always played Ken and Ryu had
>the
> > same moves as him. Come to think of it, I always thought of all the
> > characters as evil except Ken, because they were all fighting him.
>Except
> > Chun-Li, because she was so cute.
> >
> > Alright, probably more than you wanted to know,
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2520 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
apperance of 4 i think
and charisma of 5 as well.
Yah your pretty right about the honour there.
YOu dont exactly get alot of honour for interogating criminals the way he
does.


>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:10:58 -0700
>
>Ok, I'm trying to make this character as "offical" as possible, so i will
>change the following to better suit the over-all view I am receiving.
>
>Batman will have an Appearnce 3, Charisma 3, Honor of 5 and a Glory of 9
>(guess Superman in DC would have a higher Honor and Glory than Batman
>anyway, huh?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JSorochins@... <JSorochins@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 2:24 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>
>
> >In a message dated 10/7/99 1:22:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >cbaker@... writes:
> >
> ><< Intelligence 4 (Batman is a Genius to be sure, But he's not Einstein
>(5))
> >>>
> >
> >Once again I agree with most of a post, except for the part above.
>Batman
> >might not be as good as Einstein at physics, but then again, Einstein, as
>far
> >as I know, was not as good as Batman at crime solving. I would say they
>have
> >equal intelligence but took it in different directions. Just my two
>cents.
> >
> >By the by, I read somewhere once that Batman should have some
>intelligence
> >draining ability. The old JLA had genius', noble prize winners, etc, but
> >they all stood around like morons and missed the most obvious clues when
> >Batman was around. (Of course, Batman would then solve the mystery) :)
> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2521 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Ah charles ..your not that old.yet. ;)



>From: Charles Little <infinite@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:00:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > They like me, they really like me! *wondering if anyone else on this
>list is
> > old enough to get that reference*
> >
>::poking hand up:: Ooo Ooo... I am mista cahta (get that one?) :)
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2522 From: Robert Pascuttini Date: 10/7/1999
Subject: Re: List activity....
Laugh.
I agree it really is impressive. Some of these people I dont even recognize.

yep...DAMN.. sounds about right.


>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] List activity....
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:33:47 -0400
>
>Has this list ever been active lately! Come home from work and I have 50+
>messages to read.
>Check out the stats at http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/info.html
>
>We used to average about 150 messages a month, and now we're averaging 300.
>We're not even halfway through october and we've hit 200+.
>
>All I can say is....DAMN!
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2523 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Batman (was: Contenders 2)
In a message dated 10/07/1999 4:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kri5tofer@... writes:

<< STYLE this one is difficult, too many histories abound, I would use an
>original style by combining Ninjitsu, Boxing, and maybe Aikido, and Karate.

In a pinch, I'd take Ninjitsu. >>
personally, i would say the closest you could call it would be special
forces. the description of it says that it combines many styles into one...
makes sense to me.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2524 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Batman (was: Contenders 2)
Yup, I think Special forces could cover it.
-- Chris B


----------
>From: SlpStck@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Batman (was: Contenders 2)
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 12:07 AM
>

> In a message dated 10/07/1999 4:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> kri5tofer@... writes:
>
> << STYLE this one is difficult, too many histories abound, I would use an
> >original style by combining Ninjitsu, Boxing, and maybe Aikido, and Karate.
>
> In a pinch, I'd take Ninjitsu. >>
> personally, i would say the closest you could call it would be special
> forces. the description of it says that it combines many styles into one...
> makes sense to me.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2525 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Ah, I think Ibukis just posing, it's hard to compete with those rough guys
out there. My girlfriend always wanted to kill me, but she's not evil. You
know ...Ibuki is one of those anime girls who is constantly at war with
herself, trying to live up to her Ninja heritage while still trying to be
normal, And we've all been there ...right? I don't think she'd kill any one
without a lot of remorse. So cut the poor girl some slack. Ward, It never
pays to be too hard on the beaver.

Dhalsim was pretty rambunctious when he was young, that little rascal. You
know it could have been a translation error. It might have originally been
something like; "You have lost, now I will have Japuti!". That wacky
Dhalsim, he just loves to eat.

-- Chris B :D


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>From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 11:10 PM
>

> Actully alot of the SF guys are pretty evil in the first version of there
> games.
> Dhalsim wasnt to friendly when they first showed him.
> If he beat you he would say something along the lines of "YOu have lost, Now
> I will destroy you!".
> Ibuki isnt to nice in SF3 either. If she beats you she says "You have seen
> the ninja secrets now I must kill you."
>
>
>>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Contenders 2
>>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:43:04 -0700
>>
>>Batman:
>>http://www.tsixroads.com/~joespitt/batman.htm
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
>>streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:41 PM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>>
>>
>> >I have nooo idea why he is wearing the skulls. :)
>> >I've heard many versions, like: they're the skulls of three Yoga masters
>> >from ages past who were presented to Dhalsim as holy relics. and of
>>course
>> >the three kids dying of starvation, kinda gruesome to me, but I'm not
>>Hindu,
>> >so I guess I shouldn't judge.
>> >It is a mystery that has plagued me for quite some time.
>> >I KNOW! I'll make it my Quest! I'll start with Capcom of Japan.
>> >If I find out anything, I'll post it. ;)
>> >
>> >-- Chris B
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >>From: JSorochins@...
>> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
>> >>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 1:22 AM
>> >>
>> >
>> >> In a message dated 10/6/99 9:24:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> >> cbaker@... writes:
>> >>
>> >> << Anyone who follows Streetfighter knows that it's American history
>>and
>> >> original Japanese history differ greatly. There were many reasons for
>>the
>> >> name changes (like Vega in Japan ,being named Bison in the US), most
>>of
>>them
>> >> probably had to do with translation whimsy as well as trademark
>>rights.
>> >> History wise Most North Americans wouldn't know a Hindu from a
>>Muslim,
>> >> and in the Streetfighter RPG this is painfully evident. To be sure,
>>Dhalsim
>> >> In his original Japanese character concept, is Hindu. Any history
>>written by
>> >> White Wolf was White Wolf's alone (Maybe assisted by one of those
>>above
>> >> mentioned North American). Use whatever you THINK is official, but for
>>me,
>> >> the best version is the first. And, for those of you who actually play
>> >> Streetfighter 2, Ganesh, (I believe) is the elephant-headed god
>>presented in
>> >> Dhalsim's stage, not Buddha, Who you will find on Sagat's stage
>>because
>> >> Thailand and Buddhism are quite familiar. >>
>> >>
>> >> Sorry if I came off a bit snotty before. And it is not like Buddhism
>>and
>> >> Hinduism aren't related. And when I said official before, I meant rpg
>> >> official, I have no idea what the official Japanese Capchron version
>>is.
>> >> And, myself personally, I kind of like the bizarreness of Dhalsim being
>>a
>> >> married Buddhist Indian monk, but I am odd that way. Now the real
>>question
>> >> is, why is he wearing those skulls? I heard a story that they were the
>> >> skulls of children who died of starvation in Calcutta (to draw
>>attention
>>to
>> >> their plight) but I have no idea if that is just a fan explaination or
>>what.
>> >>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2526 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
In a message dated 10/7/99 10:24:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
rpascuttini@... writes:

>
> While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremely well against
> superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy.
>
Don't forget that Batman has also beaten the snot out of superman in
certain stories.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2527 From: clk_whrr_chad@yahoo.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Charcters Stats
i was wondering about how high do most of the stat get in your games
i.e. is there an upper limit not human mind you but i mean what player
charcters can go to and if there is what is it?
Group: streetfighter Message: 2528 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
This reminds me, how do you guys handle an individual's use of multiple
martial arts? After all, it is possible both in the video game (gen), and in
real life, so how do you handle it?
Incorporating some rules from Wod version of storyteller would handle it,
but I am curious how people would handle it in a purely SF fashion. A merit?
Sure, it is still an import, but merits and flaws are less of a hassle to
add.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2529 From: clk_whrr_chad@yahoo.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Web Page
I posted a link in the links section of the egroups to my web page and
I'd appreciate if anybody would go there give me back some comments and
advice and kep in mind i have had a whole lot of time to work on it but
I would appreciate feedback the link to it if it isn't working in the
links room is http://www.geocities.com/clk_whrr_chad/StreetFighter.html
Thanks.



-Chad
Group: streetfighter Message: 2530 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Honour?
Yup! I was wondering where you going, but now you return. Good news I already
have a name for this tourament: Gateway the begin of fighter, and two persons,
the first already send me the fighter the second not yet. My great problem is
this I need MORE people, I wondering about how much but 2 or 3 aren´t enought to
run this and of course I put a limit of one fighter for person. Greatings.

Robert Pascuttini wrote:

> Hey Rinaldo,,,Its ok Ive gbeen really busy latley and i still havnt made
> that random dice generator.
> Ill try to work on it soon, good to have you back. Ill mack a character and
> show him to you.
>
> >From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> >Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:10:30 -0300
> >
> >
> >Hi, Folks I'm out of line for a while because a few problems with my modem
> >but I
> >return. Yeah I said it to my Game master too, but...
> >Hey Robert I´m ready for that test fight, I´m just waiting you and some
> >other
> >people. I make it like Bloodsport movie, two groups and the winner go on
> >and the
> >loser is out of the game.
> >Robert Pascuttini wrote:
> >
> > > Hey A.J
> > > Ok I got it.
> > > I disagree with some of what you said. I didnt say that honour was self
> > > veiw. Honour is more a matter of the self. So even if people
> > > see you do something odd and ther against it, but if its right , its
> >right.
> > > The best example is from the lone wolf and cub movie. Another
> > > samurai asks the baby carriage samurai that if he had to do something to
> > > save his lord even agianst the lords wishs, would he have done it.
> > > The baby carriage samurai agrees he would have.
> > > Then the other samurai continues by saying that such situation happened
> >to
> > > him and he did the same, and yet got punished after by losing rank.
> > >
> > > Another example is in the highlander T.V series.
> > > The character "Mcloud", i beleive, is having a back flash of when he
> >went to
> > > japan. He saved another samurai and this samurai took him in,
> > > but the samurais lord had decreed no forigners on the land and any one
> >who
> > > harboured one must kill the forigner or die.
> > > The samurai had no choice but to commit seppuku.
> > > The highlander tryed to interfere saying that the samurai could actually
> > > kill him..as he would simply come back to life.
> > > The samurai still couldnt, as it was against the spirit of his lord.
> > >
> > > In the orient face is a big thing. Even here, Anyhting you do you are
> > > representing your school/family. Your work life, your social life etc.
> > >
> > > >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:35:51 -0700
> > > >
> > > >much of honor is not self-view. It is to us, of course, but not to many
> > > >cultures. Think of Japan - many. many decisions were based on gaining
> >or
> > > >losing "face" - honor in the view of other people. Whether or not we
> >like
> > > >to
> > > >admit it, most of us do care what other people think of us, and this
> >ties
> > > >in
> > > >to our self-view.
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> > > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:46 PM
> > > >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Yes thats pretty interesting. I didnt think of it that way.
> > > > >but honour has more to do with the self than other people.
> > > > >an honourable person would do whats right even if people disagreed.
> > > > >
> > > > >Arggh thats not quite right give me a bit to think on that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > > > >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > > > >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > > >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:03:23 -0700
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Honor is a matter of not only how you see yourself but how others
> >see
> > > >you
> > > > >>as
> > > > >>well. So there would have been an honor loss if your friends came in
> >and
> > > > >>killed a man that had challenged you to an honor duel, and especialy
> > > >when
> > > > >>you had agreed! Such a match is SUPPOSED to be fought without
> >outside
> > > > >>assistance. I beleive you and your companions acted in a
> >dishonorable
> > > > >>fashion. If Lancealot had taken the same challenge, he wouldnt have
> >had
> > > > >>Glaahd and King Aurther come help if he started losing!
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
> > > > >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > > > >>Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 8:31 PM
> > > > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Well I was playing (and yet playing) with a kendo and
> >contender
> > > >for
> > > > >> >samurai guy called Alxion Yarashi, and my companions are a Savate
> > > >"clow"
> > > > >>guy
> > > > >> >(He dresse like a medieval times court pierrot) named Pierce Du
> >Fonse
> > > > >>and
> > > > >>a
> > > > >> >German Brawler called Hörst and the situation is a fantasy
> >adventure
> > > >in
> > > > >> >medieval times, we are in royal court when Knight call me for a
> >honor
> > > > >> >challenge, me like all honor guy acept, but the knight fights very
> >and
> > > >I
> > > > >> >near to lose when my friends came to help me. To resume they
> >killed
> > > >the
> > > > >> >knight and all people of kingdom are watching and for crimes of
> >murder
> > > > >>and
> > > > >> >cowards we are going to the prison and maybe we die... And I lose
> > > >honor
> > > > >>for
> > > > >> >that, you belive a thing like that?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >ronineric@... wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> "morgado, mike" <mmorgad-@...> wrote:
> > > > >> >> original
> > > >article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2268
> > > > >> >> > This brings up a good point. A few years ago in a game, I was
> > > > >> >> playing a
> > > > >> >> > boxer, and a friend of mine was playing a Special Forces
> >character
> > > > >> >> who had
> > > > >> >> > high honour. In our first team fight, the boxer disposed of
> >his
> > > > >> >> opponent in
> > > > >> >> > quick order. (one punch, it was beautiful :) The Special
> >Forces
> > > > >> >> character
> > > > >> >> > dizzied his opponent and stood back to wait for his opponent
> >to
> > > > >> >> recover.
> > > > >> >> > However the boxer, clocked the special forces' opponent and
> > > >knocked
> > > > >> >> him out.
> > > > >> >> > This caused the Special Forces character to lecture the boxer
> > > >about
> > > > >> >> honour,
> > > > >> >> > in the middle of the team fight. The boxer had no idea of
> >honour,
> > > >he
> > > > >> >> was a
> > > > >> >> > boxer. When a boxer has someone on the ropes, he doesnt stop
> >and
> > > >let
> > > > >> >> them
> > > > >> >> > recover, he goes in for the kill. It was great roleplaying
> > > >between
> > > > >> >> these
> > > > >> >> > two.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Has anyone had characters clash because of morality and
> >honour?
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Mike Morgado
> > > > >> >> > mmorgado@...
> > > > >> >> > ext. 642
> > > > >> >> > (519) 383-3642
> > > > >> >> > PC/ITS
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Yes Acually, In A team Fight with a shadowlaw team the most
> > > >honorable
> > > > >> >> PC in hhe party killed the team outright just when they reached
> >zero
> > > > >> >> health, via Inferno strike...he felt it was justified, they
> >were
> > > >evil
> > > > >> >> after all, but in the end he lost one permanent honor per kill,
> >and
> > > > >> >> worse yet the storyteller ruled that the spark of "evil-intent"
> > > >began
> > > > >> >> to burn in him.
> > > > >> >> the moral i guess is that honor is as it is percived, and
> >acted
> > > > >> >> upon. that means if it looks like a good idea but moraly wrong
> >than
> > > >it
> > > > >> >> is wrong and dishonrable
> > > > >> >> O.K later
> > > > >> >> Ronin Eric
> > > > >> >>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2531 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
This just got me thinking of a possible solution that works within the
existing rules.

Here's the idea:

"Style" can be treated as a special Background. The number of dots you have
in your "Style" determines the maximum amount of Power Points you can spend
on a maneuver available to that style. New characters receive 5 dots for
their Style. Most put all 5 in one style. But you can split it 3/2 or 4/1 or
2/2/1 or 1/1/1/1/1 (restricting oneself to a lot of weak 1 PP maneuvers) to
know multiple Styles. One can not spend Freebie Points on increasing your
Style background. Characters should choose a "Primary" style. This
determines their Chi/Willpower values and represents the first style they
studied.

Increasing the "Style" background costs 5 x the next level in Experience
Points. Remember, your "Style" background limits the Power Point cost of the
maneuvers you can purchase. That's why most smart fighters take that first 5
free points and put it into one style. It's more difficult to raise Styles
later on.

The advantages of having multiple Styles, of course, is the flexibility of
choosing maneuvers. When a maneuver lists different Power Points costs for
multiple styles, the fighter is able to select the least expensive cost for
the style available to them, limited by their Power Point cap, of course.
"Any" maneuvers are included in the PP Cap, so if a fighter learns Multiple
Styles, many "Any" maneuvers that cost 5 PP are no longer available (until I
raise a style to 5 dots with XP).

So, if I had Special Forces at 4 and Wu Shu at 1, and I wanted to get
"Pin", it costs 4 PP for SF and only 3 PP for Wu Shu. Unfortunately, 3 is
over my PP cap for Wu Shu, so I have to purchase it using Special Forces at
4 PP.


Wow, I like that rule. I think it's pretty good for making it up as I went
along. I have to put that on my page I think (Street Fighter Ultra:
http://www.mecha.com/~conkle/sfighter)
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----- Original Message -----
From: <AJSolis@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:33 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)


> This reminds me, how do you guys handle an individual's use of multiple
> martial arts? After all, it is possible both in the video game (gen), and
in
> real life, so how do you handle it?
> Incorporating some rules from Wod version of storyteller would handle
it,
> but I am curious how people would handle it in a purely SF fashion. A
merit?
> Sure, it is still an import, but merits and flaws are less of a hassle to
> add.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2532 From: Andy Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Charcters Stats
As far as stat's go Chad, it states in the books <the original book> "At no
time can a character's rating exceed 8 in any one area"
Not that at matters really since it's too expensive anyway. the mutant bull
in SSL, Diablo is the only offical character that has an 8 <in strength>
I have a rule from my Stories that alows Hybrids to go to 9, but only in Pys
Atts. Cyborgs I guess would get to have 9 in Mental or sumthin...
]
Andy






> i was wondering about how high do most of the stat get in your games
> i.e. is there an upper limit not human mind you but i mean what player
> charcters can go to and if there is what is it?
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2533 From: Rinaldo Gambetta Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Gateway Tournament
All right, animal hybrid is possible and cyborg and elemental too, but the
characthers are rank 1 and I know these backgrounds aren´t cheap.
Well I was expecting more people for begin the tournament, and please make
some ocident guys.

A resume note:

I starting a mail tournament for initial rank 1 characthers called Gateway
the begin of fighter, this run without a page, I send the upcoming fights for
this list and the results too. For the fighter, I don´t use merit and flaws
rules, If someone want send me the picture of fighter it will be fine.
I pretend use a randon dice generator for the fights, one fighter for person.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2534 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: New additions to Street Fighter Ultra
I have just added my notes on Multiple Styles and also both an HTML and PDF
version of my Storyteller Notes, including the rank statistics of the book
fighters from Contenders, Player's Guide, Shades of Grey, and Secrets of
Shadaloo.

Many on this list will already be familiar with the rank statistics. It
lists the average attribute, ability, technique, health, and Power Points
expenditures of each rank based on the fighters from those books. It also
includes how many Freebie Points would be necessary to make a fighter of
that magnitude, and how many Experience Points were used, on average.

This allows Storytellers to generate artificially experienced fighters, and
to have their stats match other fighters of similar rank, on average. This
leads to more balanced play and more realistic opponents.

Also included are the Chi/Willpower stats for all of the published styles.
And Freebie Points and Experience Points cost guidelines.

The PDF version prints nicely onto one page and makes a useful game aid.

While you're there, don't forget to check out Space Fighter Alpha, rules for
Spaceship combat using the Street Fighter system. They were revised a short
while ago and I don't know if everyone caught that.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2535 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Yeah, But I think he only beat Superman when he was superhumanly augmented
himself. Like in his Dark Knight Returns powersuit. After Superman was
recovering from a nuclear explosion,(could it be streetfighter Einstein?)
and crippled by green arrow's kryptonite arrow, Batman had to blackout all
of Gotham and it's outlying communities to power the suit, it still only
gave him the critical seconds he needed to give ol Sup' a couple of black
eyes. Which he recovered within four days or so. But yeah, he has beaten
Superman. I'd hardly call it his natural physical ability though.

-- Chris B


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>From: AJSolis@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:27 AM
>

> In a message dated 10/7/99 10:24:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
> rpascuttini@... writes:
>
>>
>> While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremely well against
>> superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy.
>>
> Don't forget that Batman has also beaten the snot out of superman in
> certain stories.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2536 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Charcters Stats
I really don't have a problem with characters reaching whatever, providing
they can actually afford it, and give me a pretty good explanation. Even a
10 is not beyond reach, through experience only mind you, but guaranteed
they will suck at everything else, not to mention they had better been hit
by a green meteor or something. For games of this level, streetfighter genre
included, I would prefer to use Champions new Millennium. Where you can make
up your own special maneuvers and chi abilities, while having a greater
range of potential than storyteller can provide on it's own.

-- Chris B


----------
>From: clk_whrr_chad@...
>To: streetfighter@...
>Subject: [streetfighter] Charcters Stats
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:29 AM
>

> i was wondering about how high do most of the stat get in your games
> i.e. is there an upper limit not human mind you but i mean what player
> charcters can go to and if there is what is it?
>
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2537 From: shadaloo@uol.com.br Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: (no subject)
>
> When I first started
> playing SF2 I always thought Dhalsim was supposed to be evil. But
then
> again, I thought Ryu was evil because I always played Ken and Ryu had
the
> same moves as him. Come to think of it, I always thought of all the
> characters as evil except Ken, because they were all fighting him.
Except
> Chun-Li, because she was so cute.

Hey, Chun-Li could be evil too. Cammy, Juni and Juli are very cute and
they are VERY evil!
And... Talking about Juni and Juli, Does anyone knows the name of
Juni/Juli clones (the ones that appears before the fight against you?

VEGA
"Anyone who opposes me will be destroyed!"

>
> Alright, probably more than you wanted to know,
>
> The Amazing Sorochinski
Group: streetfighter Message: 2538 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
Well.. instead of adding a bunch of mindless rules to simulate multiple
styles, I would just ask the player at character creation which two styles
he or she wished to know, then I would ask which maneuvers, then I would
quickly ram them together into a new unique style.
Being in Martial Arts myself, multiple styles usually integrate over time
anyway. And every Martial artist I know, has tried more than one style.
(including myself) My sensei in Shotokan is 4th dan in shotokan, second dan
in shito-ryu karate, and a blackbelt in ju jitsu, he went through each style
separately. I personally believe that it is best to stick with one well
rounded style until at least blackbelt, blackpants whatever, before
branching out seriously. This is a major contention in the martial arts
community.
Rules wise, another way it could be handled would be to allow them to just
buy maneuvers from both styles at cost+1 per each extra style, it makes them
a little more expensive, but allows them to make the character they want.

-- Chris B


----------
>From: AJSolis@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:33 AM
>

> This reminds me, how do you guys handle an individual's use of multiple
> martial arts? After all, it is possible both in the video game (gen), and in
> real life, so how do you handle it?
> Incorporating some rules from Wod version of storyteller would handle it,
> but I am curious how people would handle it in a purely SF fashion. A merit?
> Sure, it is still an import, but merits and flaws are less of a hassle to
> add.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2539 From: shadaloo@uol.com.br Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: (no subject)
> Congratulations!!!! You win the time honoured, Streetfighter golden
no
> prize!
>
> My next step will be to consult the original developer of the
characters.
> That will take a couple of days. I'll keep you all posted!
>
> -- Chris B

Cool! You could ask about Bison’s past in the Street Fighter Alpha
series (I’d like to know how old he is), and the story of Juni, Juli
and Cammy.

Vega


>
>
> ----------
> >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 8:52 PM
> >
>
> > hey, i was right, it is there just for looks
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
> > streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:50 PM
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >
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> >>>From: JSorochins@...
> >>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> >>>Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 5:05 PM
> >>>
> >>
> >>> In a message dated 10/7/99 6:11:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >>> staredown@... writes:
> >>>
> >>> << Well, it's not _just_ a fan explanation, in the Tokima (sp?)
manga
> > Dhalsim
> >>> explains to Ryu that they were three children who starved to
death while
> >>> he was caring for them (they were too far gone by the time he go
to
> > them).
> >>>
> >>> That manga was, I believe, licensed by Capcom, so it's probably
at least
> >>> semi-official. >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cool, now I know at least were the story comes from. When I first
> > started
> >>> playing SF2 I always thought Dhalsim was supposed to be evil.
But then
> >>> again, I thought Ryu was evil because I always played Ken and Ryu
had the
> >>> same moves as him. Come to think of it, I always thought of all
the
> >>> characters as evil except Ken, because they were all fighting him.
> > Except
> >>> Chun-Li, because she was so cute.
> >>>
> >>> Alright, probably more than you wanted to know,
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2540 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
You know, I have a friend who thinks they're all ok, except Ken, then again
he calls all of the characters Ken. He seems to have some sort of Ken
complex. Maybe it's because I keep kicking his ass with Ken.
As for thinking that everyone in SF2 is evil just because they're fighting
you, I doesn't seem normal to me. I mean It's your character (KEN) going
around to their turf beating them up. So that means you're evil, doesn't it?
Just what is Evil anyway? That kind of thinking is pretty simple minded, you
must have been pretty young. What I want to know is what did you think of
the mirror match? or beating up the car? Damn! another evil car! Well it's
better than being beat up by those Evil Barrels. Damn their knot ridden
wooden hides!


-- Chris B


----------
>From: shadaloo@...
>To: streetfighter@...
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 12:51 PM
>

> jsorochin-@... wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2456
>> In a message dated 10/7/99 6:11:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> staredown@... writes:
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: 20 years later
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>>
>> When I first started
>> playing SF2 I always thought Dhalsim was supposed to be evil. But
> then
>> again, I thought Ryu was evil because I always played Ken and Ryu had
> the
>> same moves as him. Come to think of it, I always thought of all the
>> characters as evil except Ken, because they were all fighting him.
> Except
>> Chun-Li, because she was so cute.
>
> Hey, Chun-Li could be evil too. Cammy, Juni and Juli are very cute and
> they are VERY evil!
> And... Talking about Juni and Juli, Does anyone knows the name of
> Juni/Juli clones (the ones that appears before the fight against you?
>
> VEGA
> "Anyone who opposes me will be destroyed!"
>
>>
>> Alright, probably more than you wanted to know,
>>
>> The Amazing Sorochinski
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2541 From: Dustin Wolfe Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
Superman doesn't seem to think that Batman would need that much. In one
story, Superman gave Batman a ring with a Kryptonite stone in it and seemed
pretty sure that Batman could defeat him with just that. He gave it to
Batman in case one of his enemies ever gained control of him, so that Batman
could defeat him. Batman never used it, but keeps it in his trophy room more
as a symbol of Superman's trust in him then anything else.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:29 AM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2


>Yeah, But I think he only beat Superman when he was superhumanly augmented
>himself. Like in his Dark Knight Returns powersuit. After Superman was
>recovering from a nuclear explosion,(could it be streetfighter Einstein?)
>and crippled by green arrow's kryptonite arrow, Batman had to blackout all
>of Gotham and it's outlying communities to power the suit, it still only
>gave him the critical seconds he needed to give ol Sup' a couple of black
>eyes. Which he recovered within four days or so. But yeah, he has beaten
>Superman. I'd hardly call it his natural physical ability though.
>
>-- Chris B
>
>
>----------
>>From: AJSolis@...
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:27 AM
>>
>
>> In a message dated 10/7/99 10:24:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> rpascuttini@... writes:
>>
>>>
>>> While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremely well
against
>>> superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy.
>>>
>> Don't forget that Batman has also beaten the snot out of superman in
>> certain stories.
>>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2542 From: AJSolis@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
In a message dated 10/8/99 8:59:16 AM Central Daylight Time, conkle@...
writes:

>
> Wow, I like that rule. I think it's pretty good for making it up as I went
> along. I have to put that on my page I think (Street Fighter Ultra:
> http://www.mecha.com/~conkle/sfighter)
I agree, it seems fairly simple and useful. However, wouldn't be more
appropriate if one could spend freebies to increase their style background,
but unable to increase if with their background points? That way, someone
who wanted to have studied another style extensively could do so, but at the
cost of quite useful freebies.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2543 From: Charles Little Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Dustin Wolfe wrote:

> Superman doesn't seem to think that Batman would need that much. In one
> story, Superman gave Batman a ring with a Kryptonite stone in it and seemed
> pretty sure that Batman could defeat him with just that. He gave it to
> Batman in case one of his enemies ever gained control of him, so that Batman
> could defeat him. Batman never used it, but keeps it in his trophy room more
> as a symbol of Superman's trust in him then anything else.
>
Superman was not saying that Bats would _just_ use the ring, but that he
would know how best to use it to take him down, i.e. the way he did in the
Dark Knight
Group: streetfighter Message: 2544 From: Christian Conkle Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Multiple styles (was Batman)
> > Wow, I like that rule. I think it's pretty good for making it up as I
went
> > along. I have to put that on my page I think (Street Fighter Ultra:
> > http://www.mecha.com/~conkle/sfighter)
> I agree, it seems fairly simple and useful. However, wouldn't be more
> appropriate if one could spend freebies to increase their style
background,
> but unable to increase if with their background points? That way, someone
> who wanted to have studied another style extensively could do so, but at
the
> cost of quite useful freebies.
>

Thanks.

I originally left it out in the spirit of game control and balance. However,
if a GM wished to open that door, and it's a perfectly valid choice to do
so, I would charge 5 freebie points per dot on extra style dots.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2545 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
How old was this comic? Was it back in the goofy days of DC? When young
heroes were known as lad or lass? Did Superman have Krypto at the time? In
comic books, power levels (and goofy levels) change constantly. With every
new writer comes a completely different power level. I guess I prefer more
"down to earth" (if you could call it that) genres with a pinch of grit
(Like Dark knight Returns) rather than four colour mayhem. Unless of course
it has a healthy helping of tongue in cheek. Certainly, guys running around
in tights and masks battling it out on the streets over bank robberies, or
against rubber monsters from outer space has a little less appeal to me than
cool contenders in an underground streetfighting circuit. Sure
streetfighters have their quirks, but at least they can (and do to some
degree) exist. (and before people start ramming the last statement down my
throat, I am not condemning comic books for not being real or
realistic..sheesh)
I've always respected heroes who gained power through work, not angst filled
mutations (a la X-Men) or alien powers. (Although they have their place in
entertainment)

-- Chris B


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>From: "Dustin Wolfe" <lancer1@...>
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Fri, Oct 1, 1999, 2:49 PM
>

> Superman doesn't seem to think that Batman would need that much. In one
> story, Superman gave Batman a ring with a Kryptonite stone in it and seemed
> pretty sure that Batman could defeat him with just that. He gave it to
> Batman in case one of his enemies ever gained control of him, so that Batman
> could defeat him. Batman never used it, but keeps it in his trophy room more
> as a symbol of Superman's trust in him then anything else.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Baker <cbaker@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>;
> streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:29 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>
>
>>Yeah, But I think he only beat Superman when he was superhumanly augmented
>>himself. Like in his Dark Knight Returns powersuit. After Superman was
>>recovering from a nuclear explosion,(could it be streetfighter Einstein?)
>>and crippled by green arrow's kryptonite arrow, Batman had to blackout all
>>of Gotham and it's outlying communities to power the suit, it still only
>>gave him the critical seconds he needed to give ol Sup' a couple of black
>>eyes. Which he recovered within four days or so. But yeah, he has beaten
>>Superman. I'd hardly call it his natural physical ability though.
>>
>>-- Chris B
>>
>>
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>>>From: AJSolis@...
>>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>>>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:27 AM
>>>
>>
>>> In a message dated 10/7/99 10:24:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
>>> rpascuttini@... writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremely well
> against
>>>> superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy.
>>>>
>>> Don't forget that Batman has also beaten the snot out of superman in
>>> certain stories.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2546 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: (Batman) Contenders 2
You know, the more I think of this, the more I am beginning to realize that
if we are going to design Batman, we have to decide _which_ Batman we are
going to design. Originally, Batman was not much more than just another pulp
hero, in which case his stats should probably be in the 3-4 range. If you go
with the 60s TV show Batman, again, his stats should be in about the same
range but now he has a utility belt that hold just about damn nearly anything
that could possibly come in handy. Something like a variable power point
pool in the Hero system. If we go with the recent cartoon TV version, I'd
say his charisma is probably a 1, he exasperates nearly everyone who meets
him, Robin and Batgirl included.

Although I think if you are going for a generic, kind of combination of all
the Batmans, the Batman as posted pretty much fills the bill.

<< Actually he prety much is perfeect.
Suposedly he is the closest thing to a perfect human speciman.
I have the old bat man role playing game.
according to the game it would be easier to take out batman Physically
then mentally or spiritually. And according to the comic he knows, Savate,
Jiujitsu
and a ton of other arts. Along with getting one of the highest scores
required to join the FBI(with the exception of fire arms) a piloting
liscence by the time he was 19-20. Went to scotland yard.
The only place he lacks is in house work. couldnt make his own breakfeast or
wash his clothes worth a damn.
He has supposedly over exceeded his strength on times
His mind could have been a master in physics as he has disarmed nuclear
bombs as well once.
While he has been beaten quite a bit, he has done extremelly well against
superhuman odds such as the croc and poison ivy. >>
Group: streetfighter Message: 2547 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
In a message dated 10/7/99 10:03:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< Ibuki is one of those anime girls who is constantly at war with
herself, trying to live up to her Ninja heritage while still trying to be
normal, And we've all been there ...right? >>


Yes I have. It is so difficult for me to live up to my Ninja heritage while
still trying to be normal. Why, just the other day, I am all set to go to a
movie, when suddenly my sensei calls me and I have to jet off to Berlin to
assassinate some foreign diplomats. I mean, try to tell your boss that you
can't come in because you have to go through the Ritual of the Seven Deadly
Cranes...


Er...sorry...just kidding...

The Amazing Sorochinski
Group: streetfighter Message: 2548 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
I hear you Ninja Brother.
Please give to the Normal Ninja fellowship fund.
Remember, there's a little Ninja in all of us

-- Chris B


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>From: JSorochins@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Contenders 2
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 4:51 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/7/99 10:03:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> cbaker@... writes:
>
> << Ibuki is one of those anime girls who is constantly at war with
> herself, trying to live up to her Ninja heritage while still trying to be
> normal, And we've all been there ...right? >>
>
>
> Yes I have. It is so difficult for me to live up to my Ninja heritage while
> still trying to be normal. Why, just the other day, I am all set to go to a
> movie, when suddenly my sensei calls me and I have to jet off to Berlin to
> assassinate some foreign diplomats. I mean, try to tell your boss that you
> can't come in because you have to go through the Ritual of the Seven Deadly
> Cranes...
>
>
> Er...sorry...just kidding...
>
> The Amazing Sorochinski
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2549 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 10/8/99 9:10:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
shadaloo@... writes:

<< Cool! You could ask about Bison=92s past in the Street Fighter Alpha
series (I=92d like to know how old he is), and the story of Juni, Juli
and Cammy.

Vega >>

This is far from official, but I suspect that Bison is from the Darkstalker
universe. The only reason I have for this is I think Rose was Anita and she
obviously has a connection to Bison (she is hunting him down)

As far as Cammy goes, I believe the official story was she used to be a
assassin for and a lover of M. Bison, but somehow she got amnesia and ended
up working for English Intelligence. But I could be wrong.

The Amazing Sorochinski
Group: streetfighter Message: 2550 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 10/8/99 9:25:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< You know, I have a friend who thinks they're all ok, except Ken, then again
he calls all of the characters Ken. He seems to have some sort of Ken
complex. Maybe it's because I keep kicking his ass with Ken.
As for thinking that everyone in SF2 is evil just because they're fighting
you, I doesn't seem normal to me.>>

Well, I never did claim to be normal. Heaven forbid <shudder>



Cool!

<Just what is Evil anyway? That kind of thinking is pretty simple minded, you
must have been pretty young.>

Well, since they are not really real, I mean Evil as in fictional evil. Like
M. Bison and Vega and Sauron and the Emperor in Star Wars. I would not even
try to define evil in the real world. Actually, I would, but not in this
email.

< What I want to know is what did you think of
the mirror match?>

There wasn't any mirror match at that time. Of course, if there had been, I
would have figured it was Ken's evil twin.

<or beating up the car? Damn! another evil car! Well it's
better than being beat up by those Evil Barrels. Damn their knot ridden
wooden hides! >

Those evil 10 cent cars...

Actually, though, at the time I never could beat the damn game, so I had very
few clues to go on as to what the backstory was. So I made up my own. Since
I was playing Ken, Ken was the hero. Since he was fighting all this people,
the people were evil in the comic book sense of the word. Hmmm... I wonder
what other peoples first impressions of the characters were, before they
found out what the real story was.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2551 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
Cool theory, good for roleplaying history, But I'm pretty sure Bison isn't a
Darkstalker. I personally use the Chinese or Russian psychic super soldier
gone awry theory.
Rose is another psychic bent on stopping Bison's abuse of his "gift".
With great power comes great responsibility Spider Friends!


-- Chris B


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>From: JSorochins@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re:
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 5:04 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/8/99 9:10:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> shadaloo@... writes:
>
> << Cool! You could ask about Bison=92s past in the Street Fighter Alpha
> series (I=92d like to know how old he is), and the story of Juni, Juli
> and Cammy.
>
> Vega >>
>
> This is far from official, but I suspect that Bison is from the Darkstalker
> universe. The only reason I have for this is I think Rose was Anita and she
> obviously has a connection to Bison (she is hunting him down)
>
> As far as Cammy goes, I believe the official story was she used to be a
> assassin for and a lover of M. Bison, but somehow she got amnesia and ended
> up working for English Intelligence. But I could be wrong.
>
> The Amazing Sorochinski
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2552 From: Chris Baker Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
I really didn't even play Street fighter until I had gotten some back story
about the characters, it just didn't interest me at the time. I guess I just
like a story to draw me in.
If you want a good book on evil, Check out PEOPLE OF THE LIE by M. Scott
Peck. Excellent reading, helps roleplaying too. Even if you are not into
psychology, Like me.

-- Chris B


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>From: JSorochins@...
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: <no subject>
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 5:15 PM
>

> In a message dated 10/8/99 9:25:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> cbaker@... writes:
>
> << You know, I have a friend who thinks they're all ok, except Ken, then again
> he calls all of the characters Ken. He seems to have some sort of Ken
> complex. Maybe it's because I keep kicking his ass with Ken.
> As for thinking that everyone in SF2 is evil just because they're fighting
> you, I doesn't seem normal to me.>>
>
> Well, I never did claim to be normal. Heaven forbid <shudder>
>
>
>
> Cool!
>
> <Just what is Evil anyway? That kind of thinking is pretty simple minded, you
> must have been pretty young.>
>
> Well, since they are not really real, I mean Evil as in fictional evil. Like
> M. Bison and Vega and Sauron and the Emperor in Star Wars. I would not even
> try to define evil in the real world. Actually, I would, but not in this
> email.
>
> < What I want to know is what did you think of
> the mirror match?>
>
> There wasn't any mirror match at that time. Of course, if there had been, I
> would have figured it was Ken's evil twin.
>
> <or beating up the car? Damn! another evil car! Well it's
> better than being beat up by those Evil Barrels. Damn their knot ridden
> wooden hides! >
>
> Those evil 10 cent cars...
>
> Actually, though, at the time I never could beat the damn game, so I had very
> few clues to go on as to what the backstory was. So I made up my own. Since
> I was playing Ken, Ken was the hero. Since he was fighting all this people,
> the people were evil in the comic book sense of the word. Hmmm... I wonder
> what other peoples first impressions of the characters were, before they
> found out what the real story was.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 2553 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re: Contenders 2
In a message dated 10/8/99 2:05:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< Please give to the Normal Ninja fellowship fund. >>

I'm sorry, I gave at the dojo.
Group: streetfighter Message: 2554 From: JSorochins@aol.com Date: 10/8/1999
Subject: Re:
In a message dated 10/8/99 2:31:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbaker@... writes:

<< I really didn't even play Street fighter until I had gotten some back story
about the characters, it just didn't interest me at the time. I guess I just
like a story to draw me in.
If you want a good book on evil, Check out PEOPLE OF THE LIE by M. Scott
Peck. Excellent reading, helps roleplaying too. Even if you are not into
psychology, Like me. >>

Hey, thanks for the book recommendation! I am always looking for a good book.