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Hey guys. I wasnt going to enter this con cause it has nothing to do with SF, but since its still going and Mike hasnt said anyuthing.. A jedi is allowed to kill only in self defence. There are some jedi who even supposedly disagree with that and dont even kill. I beleive Mace Windu is such a character in the new movie. He is supposed to be a martial artist jedi who doesnt like to use his lightsaber, so ive been told. As for luke killing those gaurds in the Prison cell, I beleive he had no choice, I think they made there "intent" pretty clear when they were about to react. As for the flying cycles, Im pretty sure luke had no idea that the scout trooper was going to crash into a tree. He was trying to stop him. If you want a real puzzler try this one. If luke is a good guy and try s to stick with force, why did the force encourage him to blow up the death star. A massive device with a population 570,000. "Use the force luke". ><< No, it was wrong of Luke to attack him while he was "not" defending >himself. > Luke thought he could easily take a sucker - punch on the Emperor, that >was > dishonorable, if not moraly wrong >> > >OK, then, what about when he was chasing down those guys on the flying >cycles >that were desperately trying to get away from him? Or when Luke, Han and >Chewbacca pretended to be storm troopers with a wookie prisoner to free >Princess Leia and ended up shooting the guards (which must have come as one >awful surprise to the guards). > > >Please let me know if this thread is becoming obnoxious, it _is_ off topic >after all, > >The Amazing Sorochinski > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > ______________________________________________________

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hahaha 40 dice damage? Geeeez. Where are the stats for this maneuver? (and I thought Cartwheel Kick was supposed to be game-umbalancing) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@hotmail.com> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com> Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:54 PM Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers >Marcus the only one I can help with really is The raging demon. >Someone once told me it does 40 dice of damage. >Beleive it or not that's what it roughly works out to, 40 dice. >I did a few play test rolls and it came out perfectly. > >As for the alpha counter, I woldnt bother. Its like a charactrer having >deflecting punch as an abort manuever. (Actually you can use that) :) > >psycho crusher is in the Secrets of Shadoloo book. I dont have it on me now. > >>From: "Marcus Paulo Silva de Lima" <mpslima@hotmail.com> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com >>Subject: [streetfighter] Special Maneuvers >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:59:29 PDT >> >>What are the stats from this maneuvers: Raging Demon, Alpha(Zero) Counter >>and Psycho Crusher? Please, help me fast. >> >>______________________________________________________ >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>KBkids.com >>The Place for the Best Toys & Games! >>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/966 >> >> >>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. >Start with up to 150 Points for joining! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/805 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >

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true, but Great Wall is usable in the ring - while ightning Leg is not.
Outside of combart in the ring, I'd let Great Wall do all kinds of amazing
things, like knocking down steel doors with no roll, knocking back crowds of
incoming gangsters and such.
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:21 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Okay another topic

>"j. scott pittman" <joespit-@...> wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2340
>> Outside of the ring, the rules are much more leniant. Therefore, I
>allow
>> characters to make seperate attacks on diffrent characters if they
>are using
>> a maneuver with more than one attack. Lightning Leg, for example,
>could be
>> used to attack three diffrent guys in adjacent hexes! Mabye not
>offical
>> rules, but it works. In the ring though, it's all strictly offical
>rules.
>
> All though thats what great wall of China is for, it says in its
>description that it hitts three ajacent hexes, but iget what your
>saying
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hey wrr, I'm thinking about getting some fights together, taking turns over
the e-mail and all that
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON

> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>somebody tell me what happening.
> Thanks, Chad
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Yes, i know I posted it on my homepage, too, but I'm looking for members to
my club, Dogs of War on Yahoo! You don't ever have to come to the club again
if you like, but please join the club! I'd love to see a Street Fighter club
with enough members to be on the "favorite clubs" list with all those
Vampire, Werewolf and Mage listings. It won't take much - I think 50 members
will get us on the list, but let's shoot for alot higher that that! I'll
probably run fights from the club too - I think it sounds like an awesome
idea, and we could even hold a ranking tournament where the winners move on
to the next stages and such. One member will be champion of the tournament,
until the next tourament ends. Sound like a good idea? it does to me.
Hmmm. Dogs of War touraments - I love it! Champions could be posted in the
Contenders: 2 section of my homepage!!! All I need to get it off the ground
is members... once i get enough I'll post the rules on my page for the
tournaments!
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Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 5:16 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Hey What's Going ON

>hey wrr, I'm thinking about getting some fights together, taking turns over
>the e-mail and all that
>-----Original Message-----
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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 5:01 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON
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>
>> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>>somebody tell me what happening.
>> Thanks, Chad
>>
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Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON

Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can somebody tell me what happening. Thanks, Chad

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Hi Chad,

I'm sorry this isn't what you expected when you joined. The idea behind the
Street Fighter Mailing List is that it is a mailing list. We discuss rules,
clarifications, scenarios, anything Street Fighter related via e-mail. We
have recently added things to the vault, like a few links, the Warriors
World netbook, maneuver list, some character sheets that use the vampire the
masquerade character generator, and we also have a database set up where you
can enter your name and icq number so people can talk via icq.

Hope you decide to stick around.

MikeM

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Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:01 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON

> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>somebody tell me what happening.
> Thanks, Chad
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In a message dated 10/02/1999 2:47:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
skarsten@... writes:

<< "Darth Vader murdered your father" >>
ben explained what he meant by that in the third (6th?) movie. and in episode
one, he implies that yoda had taught himn a few things. "But Master Yoda told
me to always be mindful of the future..."

In a message dated 10/2/99 5:49:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
joespitt@... writes:

<A truly massive snip>

>
> Well, yes, this is true, but the spirit of the Street Fighter game is NOT
> realism, but quick action and martial art combat - and aggravated damage is
> kept to a minimum because otherwise, realistically, you wouldn't be a
> streetfighter fighting guys with swords and guns. You'd be dead.

Actually I would keep the rules for healing aggravated as the rules for
healing lethal damage in a crossover. So sure, getting shot will really
hurt, but a SF wouldn't be stuck flirting with the nursing staff anywhere
near as long as a Joe Mundane.

So the

> Street Fighter Universe works a little differently from ours in the area of
> damage. Things that cut you cut you, but later you look at the wound and say
> "God, that hurts, but hey, now that my partner has stitched me up, it's not
> so bad, so I can still keep on fighting," instead of "I need antibiotics and
> two weeks of not moving." Aggravated damage is fine for WW's other games -
> but keep it to a minimum for Street Fighter, I say.

That could have used a little snipping there. :)
I have to say that in my personal opinion it's a bad sign when someone
has to wonder if there is any new text, like I just did. Now on to the
matters at hand...
Anyway, of course, it all depends on how much SF and how much WoD you
want in the crossover, and that is a consideration in both rules and setting.
If you want a little WoD, then for example the backgrounds in the oft
mentioned newest SF rpg page would be quite serviceable. If you want the a
lot of WoD, then you would probably ignore all the SF rules except those that
are "racial" as it were. Off hand, I would say that SF have chi (but would
probably use the DHX rules to do so), maneuvers (but then again if your doing
a crossover than you are probably using the WoD Combat for non SF
combatants), techniques would just be abilities just like for everyone else
except for Focus which would probably be considered a new numina, add
technique to damage which may or may not be different from everyone else
depending on which parts of WoD combat one would be using, and the superhuman
potential and health level thing in a WoD dominant crossover. In a half and
half crossover, you might have something different.
Personally, my take on the damage types in a crossover would be thus:
Street fighters heal bashing damage as stated in the SF rpg, and heal lethal
and aggravated as listed for agg in the SF rpg. They don't heal quickly
enough to make it a difference, and I would allow them to soak it just as a
garou would, so agg as in WoD terms pretty much doesn't exist for them, but
note that agg equals lethal, so a punch from a brujah with burning rage would
still be more effective than a normal punch. A SF would rather be hit by a
guy with fists than a sword, but with a possibility for twenty health levels
and a stamina of eight, I don't think the proliferation of lethal/aggravated
damage would really hurt anything. And if just fiddling with the rules
without a crossover, then it all depends on how realistic you want it. You
can still be cinematic and not totally faithful to the official rules for
example, or really tone it down, but at that point you would pretty much have
a different game.
And then there is setting of course. In a SF heavy setting, then the
other supernaturals would have to exist (or else it isn't much of a
crossover), but probably have no where near as much impact on the setting.
Vampires don't control everything, werewolves aren't the only hope for
existence, Mages aren't the masters of reality. In a WoD heavy crossover,
Pentex would be an even nastier competitor with Shadowlaw, Animal hybrids
would be bygones as in mage, and Bison would be a puppet of supernatural
forces, a supernatural force himself or both. In a half and half campaign,
animal hybrids and elementalists would be right out there for the battle
against the wyrm with the bete, street fighters would probably be heavily
recruited by vampire hunters (can you say innate flame-throwers? Knew that
you could), and Bison just might be one the board of directors of Pentex.
Really, it all depends on how you mix it.

"steve karstensen" <skarste-@...> wrote:
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And to get Shin Gouki and Evil Ryu, the level must be at 32.

VEGA

> I originally hated Alpha 3 but now I'm convinced that it, along with

EX Plus Alpha, are the best SF games out there.

>
> to unlock Guile, get to level 30 in World Tour mode, then defeat

Guile when he challenges you.

>
> Best way to do this is use someone like Ken in X-ism or V-ism mode

and use his supers over and over. They hit surprisingly hard and will
KO someone quickly; if you KO them quickly enough you get double or
triple points. Perfects help too.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Chagnon <seagull@...>
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:18 AM
> Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter Alpha 3
>
>
> My how this list has been active lately. It's hard to keep up!!
>
> I got SFA 3 for the playstation for my birthday! I'm sure

_someone_ out there has played it. I'm hoping I can get some help on
it. (This isn't too far off topic is it?)

>
> One thing I've been trying to do is unlock Evil Ryu and

Guile....I'm hearing mixed stories on how this is done.

>
> Play as Evil Ryu and Guile
> To play as Evil Ryu and Guile, beat them in Dramatic Mode
>
> or...beat them in World tour mode. The problem is, I can't find

them in World tour mode.

>
> "To meet Guile, get your Main or Character Level up to 27 or more

after beating Thailand #2."

> "To meet Evil Ryu, get your Main or Character Level up to 30 or

more after beating USA #5"

> "Finally, to meet Shin Gouki, Master your Main or Character Level

(ie. above Level 32) after beating Japan #4."

>
> Mine's at level 22...and I can't seem to get him up any further

levels. Is he stuck for good?

>
> --
> Fred Chagnon
> seagull@...
> "Only in RPGs does fighting
> make you a better person."
> - Peter Olafson
>
>
>

HEh heh he
Hey AJ

> > I dunno. I kinda thought about it. what the hell do you do if a person
>wants
> > to split dice on a double hit kick to one person and a triple strike to
> > another. See what I mean?
> >
> Personally, I would let them. I remember hearing the statistic for the
>world record of number of punches or kicks in a small interval (3 seconds?
>2
>seconds? Can't recall), and it was a surprisingly high number. And that is
>in the real world, in which people cannot demolish cars with their bare
>hands
>in under thirty seconds, regurgitate fireballs, fly, or walk through walls.
>Sure it's cinematic, but that is the default genre for the game.

Its to much work though. Id rather let a person do triple strike at two
people splitting the attacks, Giving one to one person and two to the other.
Im not surprised at that record but I have to ask, how much power did the
person put into those punchs. Any one can put there hands up and
flail there hands for 2 to three seconds. But are they any good.

There are a few problems with bringing real life matters into games.
I played one game of Star wars a while ago and they found a body and wanted
to find out hen it died. I told them it wasnt possible.
Despite popular beleif, you cannot tell how long a body has been dead for.
You can give very rough estimates, but you can not determine the time of
death.

I was writting the lprevious leters same time you were so I was exhausted
aswell(The laugh above)

>
> > Actually its optional for weapons to do aggravated in SF. Choice of the
>ST.
> Well, okay the claws of most supernaturals are just as lethal in the
>WoD
>as whatever does do agg damage in SF (wasn't there a laser?). Of course,
>some beings only have lethal claws, which still correspond more closely to
>agg in SF than anything else, but anyway that is another matter.
>
> > I know fighting wise there is. They cant use special maneuvers such as
> > knee strike and such.(Im pretty sure anyways) or any powers.
> >
> I'm too tired right now to look it up in WoD Combat.
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Hey A.J
Ok I got it.
I disagree with some of what you said. I didnt say that honour was self
veiw. Honour is more a matter of the self. So even if people
see you do something odd and ther against it, but if its right , its right.
The best example is from the lone wolf and cub movie. Another
samurai asks the baby carriage samurai that if he had to do something to
save his lord even agianst the lords wishs, would he have done it.
The baby carriage samurai agrees he would have.
Then the other samurai continues by saying that such situation happened to
him and he did the same, and yet got punished after by losing rank.

Another example is in the highlander T.V series.
The character "Mcloud", i beleive, is having a back flash of when he went to
japan. He saved another samurai and this samurai took him in,
but the samurais lord had decreed no forigners on the land and any one who
harboured one must kill the forigner or die.
The samurai had no choice but to commit seppuku.
The highlander tryed to interfere saying that the samurai could actually
kill him..as he would simply come back to life.
The samurai still couldnt, as it was against the spirit of his lord.

In the orient face is a big thing. Even here, Anyhting you do you are
representing your school/family. Your work life, your social life etc.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:35:51 -0700
>
>much of honor is not self-view. It is to us, of course, but not to many
>cultures. Think of Japan - many. many decisions were based on gaining or
>losing "face" - honor in the view of other people. Whether or not we like
>to
>admit it, most of us do care what other people think of us, and this ties
>in
>to our self-view.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:46 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
>
>
> >Yes thats pretty interesting. I didnt think of it that way.
> >but honour has more to do with the self than other people.
> >an honourable person would do whats right even if people disagreed.
> >
> >Arggh thats not quite right give me a bit to think on that.
> >
> >
> >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:03:23 -0700
> >>
> >>Honor is a matter of not only how you see yourself but how others see
>you
> >>as
> >>well. So there would have been an honor loss if your friends came in and
> >>killed a man that had challenged you to an honor duel, and especialy
>when
> >>you had agreed! Such a match is SUPPOSED to be fought without outside
> >>assistance. I beleive you and your companions acted in a dishonorable
> >>fashion. If Lancealot had taken the same challenge, he wouldnt have had
> >>Glaahd and King Aurther come help if he started losing!
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >>Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 8:31 PM
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Well I was playing (and yet playing) with a kendo and contender
>for
> >> >samurai guy called Alxion Yarashi, and my companions are a Savate
>"clow"
> >>guy
> >> >(He dresse like a medieval times court pierrot) named Pierce Du Fonse
> >>and
> >>a
> >> >German Brawler called H�rst and the situation is a fantasy adventure
>in
> >> >medieval times, we are in royal court when Knight call me for a honor
> >> >challenge, me like all honor guy acept, but the knight fights very and
>I
> >> >near to lose when my friends came to help me. To resume they killed
>the
> >> >knight and all people of kingdom are watching and for crimes of murder
> >>and
> >> >cowards we are going to the prison and maybe we die... And I lose
>honor
> >>for
> >> >that, you belive a thing like that?
> >> >
> >> >ronineric@... wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "morgado, mike" <mmorgad-@...> wrote:
> >> >> original
>article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2268
> >> >> > This brings up a good point. A few years ago in a game, I was
> >> >> playing a
> >> >> > boxer, and a friend of mine was playing a Special Forces character
> >> >> who had
> >> >> > high honour. In our first team fight, the boxer disposed of his
> >> >> opponent in
> >> >> > quick order. (one punch, it was beautiful :) The Special Forces
> >> >> character
> >> >> > dizzied his opponent and stood back to wait for his opponent to
> >> >> recover.
> >> >> > However the boxer, clocked the special forces' opponent and
>knocked
> >> >> him out.
> >> >> > This caused the Special Forces character to lecture the boxer
>about
> >> >> honour,
> >> >> > in the middle of the team fight. The boxer had no idea of honour,
>he
> >> >> was a
> >> >> > boxer. When a boxer has someone on the ropes, he doesnt stop and
>let
> >> >> them
> >> >> > recover, he goes in for the kill. It was great roleplaying
>between
> >> >> these
> >> >> > two.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Has anyone had characters clash because of morality and honour?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike Morgado
> >> >> > mmorgado@...
> >> >> > ext. 642
> >> >> > (519) 383-3642
> >> >> > PC/ITS
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes Acually, In A team Fight with a shadowlaw team the most
>honorable
> >> >> PC in hhe party killed the team outright just when they reached zero
> >> >> health, via Inferno strike...he felt it was justified, they were
>evil
> >> >> after all, but in the end he lost one permanent honor per kill, and
> >> >> worse yet the storyteller ruled that the spark of "evil-intent"
>began
> >> >> to burn in him.
> >> >> the moral i guess is that honor is as it is percived, and acted
> >> >> upon. that means if it looks like a good idea but moraly wrong than
>it
> >> >> is wrong and dishonrable
> >> >> O.K later
> >> >> Ronin Eric
> >> >>
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(Grin)heh. Hey Aj.

The subject was brought up a few months ago between me, steve and someone
else....I can't remember who. Anyways, they said they had contacted someone
at WW and asked about it. The reply was 40 dice.
It works out pretty well to. It takes 75% of a 20 health SFr's health.
Which is about right. Thats on 5 stamina. any ways I know a few people
have probaly written up stats fo it and Ive been working on it so far.
This is what I got for it so far my self.



Shun Goku Satsu(Raging Demon instant hell Murder)

Description: (Most of us know what it is and I dont feel like puttining it
in right now.)

System:- It is a grab manuever.(well at star any way so it ignores
blocks)
- Subtract honour of opponent from damage.
- Can kill user as well as subject

cost : 10 chi 1 willpower
Speed ? Very slow I gather though -3 or so.
Damage: 40 (no calaculation for how this is determined)
move: +3

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:37:20 -0700
>
>hahaha 40 dice damage? Geeeez. Where are the stats for this maneuver? (and
>I
>thought Cartwheel Kick was supposed to be game-umbalancing)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:54 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>
>
> >Marcus the only one I can help with really is The raging demon.
> >Someone once told me it does 40 dice of damage.
> >Beleive it or not that's what it roughly works out to, 40 dice.
> >I did a few play test rolls and it came out perfectly.
> >
> >As for the alpha counter, I woldnt bother. Its like a charactrer having
> >deflecting punch as an abort manuever. (Actually you can use that) :)
> >
> >psycho crusher is in the Secrets of Shadoloo book. I dont have it on me
>now.
> >
> >>From: "Marcus Paulo Silva de Lima" <mpslima@...>
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Special Maneuvers
> >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:59:29 PDT
> >>
> >>What are the stats from this maneuvers: Raging Demon, Alpha(Zero)
>Counter
> >>and Psycho Crusher? Please, help me fast.
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Hey fred.

What you have to do is.
Be level 32. Charlies new level will be open to you and you have to beat
charlie in a gaurd breaker match. After you beat him guile will be your next
fight. then a new level in japan will be open to you and it will be ryu.
Then you fight multiple ryus then you fight evil ryu after.

Now thats according to My brother Tom.

tips from the sfa3 official fihting guide

Max lvl is 32
max lvl for ism is 6
perfect victories are worth 30,000 before additions
when possible try to super combo finish
Key to max score is fast knock outs.
Be sure to save ti keep good scores and so you can retry to get better ones.

>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Street Fighter Alpha 3
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:17:23 -0400
>
>My how this list has been active lately. It's hard to keep up!!
>
>I got SFA 3 for the playstation for my birthday! I'm sure _someone_ out
>there has played it. I'm hoping I can get some help on it. (This isn't too
>far off topic is it?)
>
>One thing I've been trying to do is unlock Evil Ryu and Guile....I'm
>hearing mixed stories on how this is done.
>
>Play as Evil Ryu and Guile
>To play as Evil Ryu and Guile, beat them in Dramatic Mode
>
>or...beat them in World tour mode. The problem is, I can't find them in
>World tour mode.
>
>"To meet Guile, get your Main or Character Level up to 27 or more after
>beating Thailand #2."
>"To meet Evil Ryu, get your Main or Character Level up to 30 or more after
>beating USA #5"
>"Finally, to meet Shin Gouki, Master your Main or Character Level (ie.
>above Level 32) after beating Japan #4."
>
>Mine's at level 22...and I can't seem to get him up any further levels. Is
>he stuck for good?
>
>--
>Fred Chagnon
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>make you a better person."
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Hey steve
Since obi one became "one" with the force we can argue
that it was the force that was urging him on.
Actually, supposedly he didnt lie about yoga being his master.
He does say that yoga is his master inn the first movie.
Supposedly a jedi can have more than on master. Certain jedi are supposedly
experts in certain areas of the the life stlye..
Yoda's expertise lied in his wisdom.

>From: "Steve Karstensen" <skarsten@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: (Way off topic) STUPID PC's
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:46:28 -0400
>
>Luke wasn't obeying the Force when he blew up the Death Star, he was
>obeying Ben Kenobi. Kenobi eventually proves to be somewhat inept at the
>Force (Anakin n' all) and a liar ("Darth Vader murdered your father" and/or
>"Yoda was my Master"). He wanted Luke to confront Vader and destroy him in
>a sense, so why wouldn't he urge Luke to blow up the Death Star?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:42 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: (Way off topic) STUPID PC's
>
>
>Hey guys.
>I wasnt going to enter this con cause it has nothing to
>do with SF, but since its still going and Mike hasnt said anyuthing..
>
>A jedi is allowed to kill only in self defence. There are some jedi who
>even
>supposedly disagree with that and dont even kill.
>I beleive Mace Windu is such a character in the new movie. He is supposed
>to
>be a martial artist jedi who doesnt like to use his lightsaber, so ive been
>told.
>
>As for luke killing those gaurds in the Prison cell, I beleive he had no
>choice, I think they made there "intent" pretty clear when they were about
>to react.
>
>As for the flying cycles, Im pretty sure luke had no idea that the scout
>trooper was going to crash into a tree. He was trying to
>stop him.
>
>If you want a real puzzler try this one. If luke is a good guy and try s to
>stick with force, why did the force encourage him to blow up the death
>star.
>A massive device with a population 570,000.
>"Use the force luke".
>
>
> ><< No, it was wrong of Luke to attack him while he was "not" defending
> >himself.
> > Luke thought he could easily take a sucker - punch on the Emperor, that
> >was
> > dishonorable, if not moraly wrong >>
> >
> >OK, then, what about when he was chasing down those guys on the flying
> >cycles
> >that were desperately trying to get away from him? Or when Luke, Han and
> >Chewbacca pretended to be storm troopers with a wookie prisoner to free
> >Princess Leia and ended up shooting the guards (which must have come as
>one
> >awful surprise to the guards).
> >
> >
> >Please let me know if this thread is becoming obnoxious, it _is_ off
>topic
> >after all,
> >
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Well it really isnt that bad.
All you got to do is abort to jump to get out of the way and you got one
shotokanner with no chi.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:09:11 -0700
>
>well, alot of things are suppoosd to be fatal in fighting games, but arent.
>Tekken II has moves that apparently break your back and neck, but the
>character can come out of these moves still kickin. As a Storyteller, i
>could not allow a move that causes 40 dice damage. Just too unfair... and
>if players can become masters themselves, and they learned or designed a
>similar move, end of game. Just like when you give players those +5/+10
>swords in Dungeons and Dragons
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:52 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>
>
>The Raging Demon is supposed to be fatal. That's why it does so much
>damage. There's a reason Akuma is feared you know...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J. Scott Pittman <joespitt@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:40 AM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>
>
>hahaha 40 dice damage? Geeeez. Where are the stats for this maneuver? (and
>I
>thought Cartwheel Kick was supposed to be game-umbalancing)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:54 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>
>
> >Marcus the only one I can help with really is The raging demon.
> >Someone once told me it does 40 dice of damage.
> >Beleive it or not that's what it roughly works out to, 40 dice.
> >I did a few play test rolls and it came out perfectly.
> >
> >As for the alpha counter, I woldnt bother. Its like a charactrer having
> >deflecting punch as an abort manuever. (Actually you can use that) :)
> >
> >psycho crusher is in the Secrets of Shadoloo book. I dont have it on me
>now.
> >
> >>From: "Marcus Paulo Silva de Lima" <mpslima@...>
> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Special Maneuvers
> >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:59:29 PDT
> >>
> >>What are the stats from this maneuvers: Raging Demon, Alpha(Zero)
>Counter
> >>and Psycho Crusher? Please, help me fast.
> >>
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Well ther is supposed to be an online going on soon.
Ive been waiting for people to use the chat room for a while.
I keep going in there to see if any ones there.

>From: clk_whrr_chad@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@...
>Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON
>Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 17:00:39 -0700
>
> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>somebody tell me what happening.
> Thanks, Chad
>
>
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where is the Warriors World book?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morgado <morg@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 9:18 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Hey What's Going ON

>Hi Chad,
>
>I'm sorry this isn't what you expected when you joined. The idea behind

the

>Street Fighter Mailing List is that it is a mailing list. We discuss

rules,

>clarifications, scenarios, anything Street Fighter related via e-mail. We
>have recently added things to the vault, like a few links, the Warriors
>World netbook, maneuver list, some character sheets that use the vampire

the

>masquerade character generator, and we also have a database set up where

you

>can enter your name and icq number so people can talk via icq.
>
>Hope you decide to stick around.
>
>MikeM
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: clk_whrr_chad@... <clk_whrr_chad@...>
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:01 PM
>Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON
>
>
>> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>>somebody tell me what happening.
>> Thanks, Chad
>>
>>
>>
>>
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well, in that writeup, yes, mabye....
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers

>Well it really isnt that bad.
>All you got to do is abort to jump to get out of the way and you got one
>shotokanner with no chi.
>
>
>>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:09:11 -0700
>>
>>well, alot of things are suppoosd to be fatal in fighting games, but

arent.

>>Tekken II has moves that apparently break your back and neck, but the
>>character can come out of these moves still kickin. As a Storyteller, i
>>could not allow a move that causes 40 dice damage. Just too unfair... and
>>if players can become masters themselves, and they learned or designed a
>>similar move, end of game. Just like when you give players those +5/+10
>>swords in Dungeons and Dragons
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Karstensen <skarsten@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:52 AM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>>
>>
>>The Raging Demon is supposed to be fatal. That's why it does so much
>>damage. There's a reason Akuma is feared you know...
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: J. Scott Pittman <joespitt@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:40 AM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>>
>>
>>hahaha 40 dice damage? Geeeez. Where are the stats for this maneuver? (and
>>I
>>thought Cartwheel Kick was supposed to be game-umbalancing)
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
>>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>>Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:54 PM
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Special Maneuvers
>>
>>
>> >Marcus the only one I can help with really is The raging demon.
>> >Someone once told me it does 40 dice of damage.
>> >Beleive it or not that's what it roughly works out to, 40 dice.
>> >I did a few play test rolls and it came out perfectly.
>> >
>> >As for the alpha counter, I woldnt bother. Its like a charactrer having
>> >deflecting punch as an abort manuever. (Actually you can use that) :)
>> >
>> >psycho crusher is in the Secrets of Shadoloo book. I dont have it on me
>>now.
>> >
>> >>From: "Marcus Paulo Silva de Lima" <mpslima@...>
>> >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>> >>Subject: [streetfighter] Special Maneuvers
>> >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:59:29 PDT
>> >>
>> >>What are the stats from this maneuvers: Raging Demon, Alpha(Zero)
>>Counter
>> >>and Psycho Crusher? Please, help me fast.
>> >>
>> >>______________________________________________________
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hey i know many of you tried to join the Dogs of War club, and there's been
a problem with the joining feature. I'm working on the problem, please be
patient. Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Hey What's Going ON

>Well ther is supposed to be an online going on soon.
>Ive been waiting for people to use the chat room for a while.
>I keep going in there to see if any ones there.
>
>
>>From: clk_whrr_chad@...
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: streetfighter@...
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON
>>Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 17:00:39 -0700
>>
>> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>>somebody tell me what happening.
>> Thanks, Chad
>>
>>
>>
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apparently, the new club is working in reguars to the "join" feature!
Eberyone please join as soon as possible!!!!! Former members please re-join
in the new area! thanks!
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/streetfighterthedogsofwar
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Hey What's Going ON

>Well ther is supposed to be an online going on soon.
>Ive been waiting for people to use the chat room for a while.
>I keep going in there to see if any ones there.
>
>
>>From: clk_whrr_chad@...
>>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>>To: streetfighter@...
>>Subject: [streetfighter] Hey What's Going ON
>>Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 17:00:39 -0700
>>
>> Hey whats going on i joined street fighter e-group because i
>>thought you guys did something like maybe chat or something like that
>>but all I've gotten are bunch of e-mails and nobody seems to be having
>>any events or anything going on in the calande or chat room. Can
>>somebody tell me what happening.
>> Thanks, Chad
>>
>>
>>
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In a message dated 10/3/99 7:32:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
rpascuttini@... writes:

>
> Hey A.J
> Ok I got it.

I'm curious, just how did I suddenly become a part of this thread, since
I haven't added a single word to it? :)
Just curious is all.
But since I seem to have been invited, honour in SF seems to be both
external and internal. External in that it is a measure of how well others
think of you, internal in that it is also a measure of how attune they are
with themselves. Presumably that can be interpreted to mean that honour
represents how in tune with their own minds, their inner discipline and self
knowledge as well as self esteem, which is reflected in the fact that honour
is used to regain chi. More honour, the more efficient the psyche of the SF.

Yo, Eric,

Actually, funny you should ask that question. I had that very same question
posed to me a few months back from a friend of mine. Needless to say, I
spent a while creating both new elementals and special maneuvers to go with
them. Give me the green light and they're yours.

Later

>From: ronineric@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@...
>Subject: [streetfighter] Elementalists
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:05:57 -0700
>
>Hey,
>My group has realy fallen into the elemental background, and frankly
>there is not much out there for elementalists. Does any body have any
>new elemental moves, or new elements that they would be willing to
>share BTW as an addendum i have my personal PC i plan to post soon,
>And i have a few interesting Npcs (e.g.. Marvel Vs Capcom) if anyone is
>interested.
>Later
>Ronin Eric
>
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Hi, Folks I'm out of line for a while because a few problems with my modem but I
return. Yeah I said it to my Game master too, but...
Hey Robert I´m ready for that test fight, I´m just waiting you and some other
people. I make it like Bloodsport movie, two groups and the winner go on and the
loser is out of the game.
Robert Pascuttini wrote:

> Hey A.J
> Ok I got it.
> I disagree with some of what you said. I didnt say that honour was self
> veiw. Honour is more a matter of the self. So even if people
> see you do something odd and ther against it, but if its right , its right.
> The best example is from the lone wolf and cub movie. Another
> samurai asks the baby carriage samurai that if he had to do something to
> save his lord even agianst the lords wishs, would he have done it.
> The baby carriage samurai agrees he would have.
> Then the other samurai continues by saying that such situation happened to
> him and he did the same, and yet got punished after by losing rank.
>
> Another example is in the highlander T.V series.
> The character "Mcloud", i beleive, is having a back flash of when he went to
> japan. He saved another samurai and this samurai took him in,
> but the samurais lord had decreed no forigners on the land and any one who
> harboured one must kill the forigner or die.
> The samurai had no choice but to commit seppuku.
> The highlander tryed to interfere saying that the samurai could actually
> kill him..as he would simply come back to life.
> The samurai still couldnt, as it was against the spirit of his lord.
>
> In the orient face is a big thing. Even here, Anyhting you do you are
> representing your school/family. Your work life, your social life etc.
>
> >From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:35:51 -0700
> >
> >much of honor is not self-view. It is to us, of course, but not to many
> >cultures. Think of Japan - many. many decisions were based on gaining or
> >losing "face" - honor in the view of other people. Whether or not we like
> >to
> >admit it, most of us do care what other people think of us, and this ties
> >in
> >to our self-view.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:46 PM
> >Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> >
> >
> > >Yes thats pretty interesting. I didnt think of it that way.
> > >but honour has more to do with the self than other people.
> > >an honourable person would do whats right even if people disagreed.
> > >
> > >Arggh thats not quite right give me a bit to think on that.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
> > >>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > >>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:03:23 -0700
> > >>
> > >>Honor is a matter of not only how you see yourself but how others see
> >you
> > >>as
> > >>well. So there would have been an honor loss if your friends came in and
> > >>killed a man that had challenged you to an honor duel, and especialy
> >when
> > >>you had agreed! Such a match is SUPPOSED to be fought without outside
> > >>assistance. I beleive you and your companions acted in a dishonorable
> > >>fashion. If Lancealot had taken the same challenge, he wouldnt have had
> > >>Glaahd and King Aurther come help if he started losing!
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Rinaldo Gambetta <rinaldo@...>
> > >>To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
> > >>Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 8:31 PM
> > >>Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Honour?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Well I was playing (and yet playing) with a kendo and contender
> >for
> > >> >samurai guy called Alxion Yarashi, and my companions are a Savate
> >"clow"
> > >>guy
> > >> >(He dresse like a medieval times court pierrot) named Pierce Du Fonse
> > >>and
> > >>a
> > >> >German Brawler called Hörst and the situation is a fantasy adventure
> >in
> > >> >medieval times, we are in royal court when Knight call me for a honor
> > >> >challenge, me like all honor guy acept, but the knight fights very and
> >I
> > >> >near to lose when my friends came to help me. To resume they killed
> >the
> > >> >knight and all people of kingdom are watching and for crimes of murder
> > >>and
> > >> >cowards we are going to the prison and maybe we die... And I lose
> >honor
> > >>for
> > >> >that, you belive a thing like that?
> > >> >
> > >> >ronineric@... wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> "morgado, mike" <mmorgad-@...> wrote:
> > >> >> original
> >article:http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter/?start=2268
> > >> >> > This brings up a good point. A few years ago in a game, I was
> > >> >> playing a
> > >> >> > boxer, and a friend of mine was playing a Special Forces character
> > >> >> who had
> > >> >> > high honour. In our first team fight, the boxer disposed of his
> > >> >> opponent in
> > >> >> > quick order. (one punch, it was beautiful :) The Special Forces
> > >> >> character
> > >> >> > dizzied his opponent and stood back to wait for his opponent to
> > >> >> recover.
> > >> >> > However the boxer, clocked the special forces' opponent and
> >knocked
> > >> >> him out.
> > >> >> > This caused the Special Forces character to lecture the boxer
> >about
> > >> >> honour,
> > >> >> > in the middle of the team fight. The boxer had no idea of honour,
> >he
> > >> >> was a
> > >> >> > boxer. When a boxer has someone on the ropes, he doesnt stop and
> >let
> > >> >> them
> > >> >> > recover, he goes in for the kill. It was great roleplaying
> >between
> > >> >> these
> > >> >> > two.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Has anyone had characters clash because of morality and honour?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Mike Morgado
> > >> >> > mmorgado@...
> > >> >> > ext. 642
> > >> >> > (519) 383-3642
> > >> >> > PC/ITS
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes Acually, In A team Fight with a shadowlaw team the most
> >honorable
> > >> >> PC in hhe party killed the team outright just when they reached zero
> > >> >> health, via Inferno strike...he felt it was justified, they were
> >evil
> > >> >> after all, but in the end he lost one permanent honor per kill, and
> > >> >> worse yet the storyteller ruled that the spark of "evil-intent"
> >began
> > >> >> to burn in him.
> > >> >> the moral i guess is that honor is as it is percived, and acted
> > >> >> upon. that means if it looks like a good idea but moraly wrong than
> >it
> > >> >> is wrong and dishonrable
> > >> >> O.K later
> > >> >> Ronin Eric
> > >> >>
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