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Group: streetfighter Message: 1405 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Mark Dacascos
Group: streetfighter Message: 1406 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: The Crow
Group: streetfighter Message: 1407 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Drive and Other Stuff
Group: streetfighter Message: 1408 From: Eric Thayer Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Crow & Game
Group: streetfighter Message: 1409 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Crow & Game
Group: streetfighter Message: 1410 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Group: streetfighter Message: 1411 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Group: streetfighter Message: 1412 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Group: streetfighter Message: 1413 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/21/1999
Subject: OT: The Crow: Stairway to Heaven
Group: streetfighter Message: 1414 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Books
Group: streetfighter Message: 1415 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1416 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Character Sheets
Group: streetfighter Message: 1417 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1418 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1419 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Group: streetfighter Message: 1420 From: Mike Morgado Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Group: streetfighter Message: 1421 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1422 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1423 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1424 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: MK Conversions
Group: streetfighter Message: 1425 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1426 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1427 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1428 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1429 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1430 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: This e-group
Group: streetfighter Message: 1431 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: This e-group
Group: streetfighter Message: 1432 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Group: streetfighter Message: 1433 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1434 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
Group: streetfighter Message: 1435 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1436 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1437 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: GenCon
Group: streetfighter Message: 1438 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1439 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1440 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: This e-group
Group: streetfighter Message: 1441 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1442 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Group: streetfighter Message: 1443 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
Group: streetfighter Message: 1444 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
Group: streetfighter Message: 1445 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1446 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Group: streetfighter Message: 1447 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Group: streetfighter Message: 1448 From: Dark Light Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1449 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1450 From: Dark Light Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: SF Movie
Group: streetfighter Message: 1451 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: I hate when that happens
Group: streetfighter Message: 1452 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Group: streetfighter Message: 1453 From: Charles Little Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
Group: streetfighter Message: 1454 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: SF Movie



Group: streetfighter Message: 1405 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Mark Dacascos
I dont think Crying Freeman was ever released either. About a year ago I
was at a webpage that said the company (dont know which one) was holding on
to it, until Mark got famous before they released it. But you can't believe
everything you read on the web either.

The Crow: Stairway to Heaven: I really like the show. Ihave almost every
episode taped. I'm a Crow fan. I think Mark plays an awesome Eric
Draven....not as good as Brandon though. :(

There is a list of his movies at http://www.weblore.com/dacascos/index.html.

I have never heard of Drive. Any good? Is it out on video?

MikeM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrick Chen [SMTP:dare2live@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 2:22 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] That Guy
>
> Kristofer,
>
> That guy from Drive and Crying Freeman is Mark Dacascos, who is a fighter
> of
> some note. He comes from a great martial arts heritage: His Father, Al
> Dacascos, founded the Wun Hop Kuen Do fighting system (not to be confused
> with Hapkido). Mark is of mixed Filipino, Chinese, and Japanese ancestry,
> as
> well as others.
> In addition to Drive and Crying Freeman (which I don't think has ever been
>
> released), he has starred in Only the Strong (the other film I mentioned)
> Double Dragon the Movie (avoid this for one reason: trying to pass off a
> post-Who's the Boss Alyssa Milano and a pre-Party of Five Scott Wolf as
> martial artists. It's just painful to watch, really. Dacascos is like the
> only, and I mean only actor in the film who can fight), Boogie Boy (his
> only
> non-MA flickm haven't seen it), and he currently stars in the Crow:
> Stairway
> to Heaven TV series (still trying to figure out if it's good or not).
> To be honest, he's not that spectacular an actor, but he is a great
> martial
> artist, in my opinion, anyway.
>
> Another martial artist I like is Michelle "Mouse" Krasnoo. She's in a few
> films, none of note. Again, a dubious actor, but I bring her up for an
> important reason. If any of you have read my sourcebook for New Legends,
> the
> character Shannon Sparks in the introductory fiction was based off of her.
>
> Okay, enough ego-flaunting.
>
> On the whole, "Other Media" topic, I must say I'm sort of really
> disappointed with a lot of he Direct-To-Video martial arts films. Most of
> the time, they are thinly-veiled excuses to show soft-core porn (in one
> film, there is a orgy scene, for no apparent reason whatsoever. I of
> course
> didn't know this was in the film, and NO, I am not saying which one). And
> they are always very poorly acted. I really think these "filmmakers"
> should
> stop trying to cash in on martial arts a a quick way to make dough through
>
> splashy violence. As a martial artist myself, it does sadden me to see
> such
> a great part of our world's culture cheapened in such a way.
>
> That's my opinion, anyway.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1406 From: Dennis Bryant Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: The Crow
>The Crow: Stairway to Heaven: I really like the show. Ihave almost every
>episode taped. I'm a Crow fan. I think Mark plays an awesome Eric
>Draven....not as good as Brandon though. :(

I've never heard of "Crow:stairway to heavan", but the Crow was great, the
comic was great, & if it's named after a Led Zeplin song that can only be a
good thing. What's it like compared to the other Crow stuff?

Dennis

P.S.Well, of course he's not as good as Brandon.


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1407 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Drive and Other Stuff
Mike-

The movie Drive was released little over a year ago. It had, of course, Mark
Dacascos, and his recent Crow guest star Kadeem Hardison. It was a pretty
good flick, I must say, with Hong Kong level martial arts action, almost
decent action (mostly on Hardison's part) and just a splash of humor
(Dacascos sings karaoke in one scene).
I can't really sum up the plot, because it's been a year since I saw it, but
it has to do with an ex-soldier form ASia who has an experimental device in
his body called (appropriately enough) the TurboDrive, which essentially
boosts your strength and speed. I'd wager that your video store probably has
it somewhere or at the very least can order it for you.

Dennis-

Mike would be a better guy to ask, but the Crow: Stariway to Heaven is a
weekly hourlong show int eh action/adventure vein akin to Hercules and Xena.
I know some people are hemmorhaging at the idea of comparing the three
shows, but it was the best way to illustrate.
I think that the show's shortcomings, if anything, id that it's not sure
what it wants to be, what mood it wants to take. In keeping with the Crow
mythos, the show is darker and more "spooky" in nature that Hercukles and
Xena, but not as gothic as the movies. mostly due to the fact that it's on
public TV. Sometimes, it strikes me as a combination of Kung Fu: The Legend
Continues, some Highlander (the Adrian Paul years) with just a smattering of
Poltergeist: The LEgacy. In other words, it's a culmination of all the
semi-sucessful movie spinoffs in TV history.

On another note, I am going to be getting back to working on my homepage.
opefully, I can get the Storyteller's masterbook up, as well as another
revision of the New Legends sourcebook. Other than that, I am open for any
suggestions. I'm thinking to do stuff that can really benefit Storyteller is
particular, who can then benefit their players.

Peace,

Darrick


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1408 From: Eric Thayer Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Crow & Game
Hey guys,

Just wondering two things. First of all, what station/time would I find that
Crow: Stairway to Heaven show on the East Coast US. Secondly, when is
Darrick's online game supposed to come into session. There was one scheduled
a week or two ago that I missed due to Senior activities in my last year of
high school.

Later Guys,
Kirtan


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1409 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Crow & Game
The Crow:Stairway to Heaven webpage should have some listings of cable
companies and the times they air The Crow:Stairway to Heaven. Its located
at www.thecrowtv.com

Mike Morgado
mmorgado@...
ext. 642
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Thayer [SMTP:lord_kirtan@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 2:47 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Crow & Game
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Just wondering two things. First of all, what station/time would I find
> that
> Crow: Stairway to Heaven show on the East Coast US. Secondly, when is
> Darrick's online game supposed to come into session. There was one
> scheduled
> a week or two ago that I missed due to Senior activities in my last year
> of
> high school.
>
> Later Guys,
> Kirtan
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1410 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Hey mike.
The first stry I ever did involved all the characters being involved in the
military.
It was just to get them ready so they could all still be diffrent styles.
During the story small things (weird things happened) eventually It all came
together at the end to be a Shadoloo plot. Want me to send you the outline.?



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1411 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Black mask.....
Hrmmm This is oly my opinion but It was ok....nothing spectacular.
I would have preffered to wait for it on video.

"Morgado, Mike" wrote:

> Theres an anime called Enter the Dragon? I love the movie with Bruce Lee,
> but never knew there was an anime with the same title.
>
> What about novels? Are there any good novels that deals with martial
> artists?
>
> oh and for anyone who has seen Black Mask, was it any good? By the time I
> got a chance to see it, it was gone :(
>
> Thanks
>
> MikeM
>
> > Martial Arts anime includes;
> >
> > Battle Arena Tohshinden
> > Tekken: the Motion Picture
> > Samurai Shodown
> > The Ultimate Teacher
> > Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge (for your WoD crossover fix)
> > Enter the Dragon
> >
> > Live-Action Movies:
> > Armor of God II: Operation Condor
> > Rumble in the Bronx
> > The Drunken Master I & II (especially II; only live-action Flying Body
> > Spear I've ever seen)
> > First Strike
> > Diggstown (organized crime meets street boxing)
> > Black Mask
> >
> > Comics:
> > Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morgado, Mike < MMorgado@... <mailto:MMorgado@...>>
> > To: 'StreetFighter' < streetfighter@egroups.com
> > <mailto:streetfighter@egroups.com>>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 2:16 PM
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Other Media
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can anyone think of any other media that is Street Figher-ish? You know,
> > like the movie Bloodsport, Mortal Kombat the movie, the Fatal Fury
> > animated
> > movies.
> >
> > What Im looking for is basically movies, anime, comics and or novels that
> > have a Street Figher feel to them. Im trying to devise a list of them, so
> > send as many things as you can think of. If you dont want to bother the
> > list with them, feel free to send them to me personally at
> > mmorgado@... or morg@....
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > Mike Morgado
> > mmorgado@...
> > ext. 642
> > (519) 383-3642
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1412 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/18/1999
Subject: Re: Other Media
Phantom menace.
Oh yeah I forgot,
Apparently the guy who played Darth Maul in PM is a Wu Shu Martial Artist.
Supposedly(According to a friend) He studied in china for a while.

Dennis Bryant wrote:

> Well, I'd also say the Phantom meanace. It's got some really cool martial
> sceens in it, espescially for weapons combat.
>
> & on the note about HK films, yeah, I've noticed that over the past year
> we've got about 4-5 years of HK cinema.
>
> Dennis
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1413 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/21/1999
Subject: OT: The Crow: Stairway to Heaven
<<I've never heard of "Crow:stairway to heavan", but the Crow was great, the

> comic was great, & if it's named after a Led Zeplin song that can only be
> a
> good thing. What's it like compared to the other Crow stuff?
>
> Dennis
>
> P.S.Well, of course he's not as good as Brandon.>>
>
Sorry, it took me awhile to reply to this one. The Crow:Stairway to Heaven
is a weekly tv show. The TV show is nowhere near as dark as the movie or
comics. Its still enjoyable though. I always say its the Crow as if it was
comic code approved. Shelly Webster is in the show too, but just from the
land of the dead, sometimes guiding Eric/the Crow. However the season
finale, was kind of a cliff hanger. In the first episode of the Crow, Eric
jumps off this bridge in the land of the dead and ends up in the land of the
living. In the season finale, Shelly does the same thing...and thats how it
ended. So you dont know what happened to her. Might never know either
considering the show will not be renewed. The producers are shopping it
around hoping that someone else will pick it up.

MikeM



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1414 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Books
Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or the Perfect Warrior anywhere.
 
thx,
 
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1415 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of Shadoloo. Will let you know
asap.

btw, I actually got to run a session of Street Fighter last weekend. It was
a great time

But something came up during the session that kind of surprised me. How
much honour do you think the group should lose for 4 street fighters
attacking 1 woman?

Heres the scoop. They were trying to break into a mansion to steal a sword.
The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and was discovered. The
woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight with him. She was defending
her home after all. The second round the other three players who were in
hiding jumped out and surrounded her. She ran, and the Wu Shu guy, jumped
and kicked her in the back. They then surrounded her and beat her into
unconsciousness.

Now the group did think they were stealing the sword from a shadoloo agent.
Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo, and they were actaully
working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all attacked one woman. I
think some honour loss is in order, but just can't decided on how much.

They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre going to feel when her
boyfriend comes looking for them. :)


Mike Morgado
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> From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@...]
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> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Books
>
> Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have
> the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my
> torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or
> the Perfect Warrior anywhere.
>
> thx,
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1416 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Character Sheets
Does anyone have a decent Character sheet? Either in PDF or Word or
whatever? I dont like the fact that you cant put your speeds, damage, and
move on the character sheet that came with the book. If anyone can help,
that would be great.

Mike Morgado


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1417 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
well, once they found out the woman was innocent, then yes; honor loss applies.  Was she combat trained?  If so, I would only dock them 1, 2 (temporary) max.  If not, and they had a way to discover this, then I may kick the penalty up to 3.
 
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From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@...>
To: 'streetfighter@egroups.com' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:46 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Books and Honour Loss

I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of Shadoloo. Will let you know
asap.

btw, I actually got to run a session of Street Fighter last weekend.  It was
a great time

But something came up during the session that kind of surprised me.  How
much honour do you think the group should lose for 4 street fighters
attacking 1 woman?

Heres the scoop.  They were trying to break into a mansion to steal a sword.
The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and was discovered.  The
woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight with him. She was defending
her home after all.  The second round the other three players who were in
hiding jumped out and surrounded her.  She ran, and the Wu Shu guy, jumped
and kicked her in the back.  They then surrounded her and beat her into
unconsciousness.  

Now the group did think they were stealing the sword from a shadoloo agent.
Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo, and they were actaully
working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all attacked one woman.  I
think some honour loss is in order, but just can't decided on how much.  

They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre going to feel when her
boyfriend comes looking for them.  :)


Mike Morgado
> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@...] > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:32 AM > To: streetfighter@egroups.com > Subject: [streetfighter] Books > > Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have > the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my > torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or > the Perfect Warrior anywhere. > > thx, > > -- > Seagull > seagull@... <mailto:seagull@...> > "There is always a bigger fish..." > Liam Neeson - The Phantom Menace. > > _____ > > > click hereClick Here! <http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/360> > > eGroups.com home: <http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter> > www.egroups.com <http://www.egroups.com> - Simplifying group > communications >

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1418 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Don't give them any honor loss, they weren't conciously attacink a
pedestrian, they thought it was a shadoloo agent. Just make her
boyfriend god awful :)
--- "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...> wrote:
> I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of
> Shadoloo. Will let you know
> asap.
>
> btw, I actually got to run a session of Street
> Fighter last weekend. It was
> a great time
>
> But something came up during the session that kind
> of surprised me. How
> much honour do you think the group should lose for 4
> street fighters
> attacking 1 woman?
>
> Heres the scoop. They were trying to break into a
> mansion to steal a sword.
> The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and
> was discovered. The
> woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight
> with him. She was defending
> her home after all. The second round the other
> three players who were in
> hiding jumped out and surrounded her. She ran, and
> the Wu Shu guy, jumped
> and kicked her in the back. They then surrounded
> her and beat her into
> unconsciousness.
>
> Now the group did think they were stealing the sword
> from a shadoloo agent.
> Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo,
> and they were actaully
> working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all
> attacked one woman. I
> think some honour loss is in order, but just can't
> decided on how much.
>
> They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre
> going to feel when her
> boyfriend comes looking for them. :)
>
>
> Mike Morgado
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:32 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Books
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of
> their source books. I have
> > the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm
> looking to replace my
> > torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find
> the Player's Guide or
> > the Perfect Warrior anywhere.
> >
> > thx,
> >
> > --
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> > seagull@... <mailto:seagull@...>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1419 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Hey Christian.
I dont think your there to answer this one....but its not a rule . you can spend
a willpower to give extra damage.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1420 From: Mike Morgado Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Actually I believe its to roll an aditional die of damage...its not a
guranteed success.

The rule is on page 141 of the main book. Example of Play: Turn 6.

"Jade's player, Laura, wants Jade to give it her best shot, so she decides
to spend a point of willpower for an extra die."

Its the only place I can find it

Mike

-----Original Message-----
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:27 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Willpower question


>Hey Christian.
>I dont think your there to answer this one....but its not a rule . you can
spend
>a willpower to give extra damage.
>
>Christian Conkle wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember reading somewhere that a player can't spend a
Willpower
>> to ensure a damage point. I can't find the reference anywhere. Am I in
error
>> in remembering this or is it really in the book somewhere?
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1421 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/22/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Oh my God... Im Appaled. 4 trained people on one woman? Especially that kick to
the back!.. alright I figure 1 honour from each. and im extra for the kick to
the back especially if they were doin good already.
I like the idea bout the BF. Hero created villain . ahahaha.

"Morgado, Mike" wrote:

> I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of Shadoloo. Will let you know
> asap.
>
> btw, I actually got to run a session of Street Fighter last weekend. It was
> a great time
>
> But something came up during the session that kind of surprised me. How
> much honour do you think the group should lose for 4 street fighters
> attacking 1 woman?
>
> Heres the scoop. They were trying to break into a mansion to steal a sword.
> The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and was discovered. The
> woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight with him. She was defending
> her home after all. The second round the other three players who were in
> hiding jumped out and surrounded her. She ran, and the Wu Shu guy, jumped
> and kicked her in the back. They then surrounded her and beat her into
> unconsciousness.
>
> Now the group did think they were stealing the sword from a shadoloo agent.
> Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo, and they were actaully
> working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all attacked one woman. I
> think some honour loss is in order, but just can't decided on how much.
>
> They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre going to feel when her
> boyfriend comes looking for them. :)
>
> Mike Morgado
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:32 AM
> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > Subject: [streetfighter] Books
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have
> > the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my
> > torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or
> > the Perfect Warrior anywhere.
> >
> > thx,
> >
> > --
> > Seagull
> > seagull@... <mailto:seagull@...>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1422 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
Hell they should lose honour for breaking into the place.
If their warriors they realize its wrong not matter the reason.

Steve Karstensen wrote:

 well, once they found out the woman was innocent, then yes; honor loss applies.  Was she combat trained?  If so, I would only dock them 1, 2 (temporary) max.  If not, and they had a way to discover this, then I may kick the penalty up to 3. -----Original Message-----
From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@...>
To: 'streetfighter@egroups.com' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:46 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Books and Honour Loss
 
I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of Shadoloo. Will let you know
asap.

btw, I actually got to run a session of Street Fighter last weekend.  It was
a great time

But something came up during the session that kind of surprised me.  How
much honour do you think the group should lose for 4 street fighters
attacking 1 woman?

Heres the scoop.  They were trying to break into a mansion to steal a sword.
The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and was discovered.  The
woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight with him. She was defending
her home after all.  The second round the other three players who were in
hiding jumped out and surrounded her.  She ran, and the Wu Shu guy, jumped
and kicked her in the back.  They then surrounded her and beat her into
unconsciousness.  

Now the group did think they were stealing the sword from a shadoloo agent.
Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo, and they were actaully
working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all attacked one woman.  I
think some honour loss is in order, but just can't decided on how much.  

They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre going to feel when her
boyfriend comes looking for them.  :)


Mike Morgado
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:32 AM
> To:   streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject:      [streetfighter] Books
> 
> Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have
> the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my
> torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or
> the Perfect Warrior anywhere.  
> thx,  
> --
> Seagull
> seagull@... <mailto:seagull@...>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1423 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Fred, if you're looking for Street Fighter Books, I can tell you they're
going o be very hard to find on the net. I've been searching for the better
part of the year looking for Contenders, the only book I don't have. I
happen to know a bookstore in DeKalb, Illinois who not only has Secrets of
Shadoloo, Perfect Warrior, and the Storyteller's screen; they also have them
for 75% off. I'll try to dig up the number and maybe you and they can whip
up some sorta mail order deal.

On that note, any one who knows where I can get Contenders, PLEASE TELL ME.
It has continually confounded me, trying to locate this book.

About willpower, since I use the Dex+Tech "to-hit" rules, I usually say that
you can use willpower to add a success on a to-hit and Chi to add a point of
damage.

About the question of honor: A mass beating of one woman is indeed a heinous
act, but the characters wee unaware of her true nature. They acted
accordingly, although a bit extreme. I wouldn't penalize them so much as
have their actions weigh heavily on them for the next few campaigns. IF
anyone else finds out about the incident, THEN have a drop in honor and/or
glory. (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly taunt the characters
by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!"

Incindentally that's an interesting and amusing accurrence. I have to ask:
What are your guys' most humorous moments in a SF campaign? (This should
result in a few postings).



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1424 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: MK Conversions
On the net I've found conversions for all the SF family games. Has anyone seen any Mortal Kombat characterws dapted to the SF RPG? If not, I'll just whip some up myself. Just curious.
 
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1425 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: SF Story
I have no idea what happens after Super Street Fighter 2. Its the last one
I played. Unfortunately, we dont have an arcade in my pathetic little city,
and I just recently got a PlayStation. So if someone could tell me what
games are out after Super SF 2, and where I could find the story with all
the characters, that would be great. Like what happened to Ken, Ryu, etc.
after SF2.

How many people use the world warriors and other characters from the video
game, and other video games, in their adventures? When we play, the names
are mentioned but the characters are never really met. Except for Vega, and
Cammy. Those are the only two that the players have ever met.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1426 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
I rarely ever ues the world warriors except for the WW tournament every
couple of (real) years. There are just so many better possibilities
for your own NPC's than the generic ones, though their names are fun to
throw around. -------Will
-- "Morgado, Mike" <MMorgado@...> wrote:
> I have no idea what happens after Super Street
> Fighter 2. Its the last one
> I played. Unfortunately, we dont have an arcade in
> my pathetic little city,
> and I just recently got a PlayStation. So if
> someone could tell me what
> games are out after Super SF 2, and where I could
> find the story with all
> the characters, that would be great. Like what
> happened to Ken, Ryu, etc.
> after SF2.
>
> How many people use the world warriors and other
> characters from the video
> game, and other video games, in their adventures?
> When we play, the names
> are mentioned but the characters are never really
> met. Except for Vega, and
> Cammy. Those are the only two that the players have
> ever met.
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1427 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
SF III has a new generation of Street Fighters. I was just reading about all the SF characters in existsnce because work is slow today :), and came across a few of these guys. I've never played SFIII so I don't know the story there.
 
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Subject: [streetfighter] SF Story

I have no idea what happens after Super Street Fighter 2.  Its the last one
I played. Unfortunately, we dont have an arcade in my pathetic little city,
and I just recently got a PlayStation.  So if someone could tell me what
games are out after Super SF 2, and where I could find the story with all
the characters, that would be great. Like what happened to Ken, Ryu, etc.
after SF2.

How many people use the world warriors and other characters from the video
game, and other video games, in their adventures?  When we play, the names
are mentioned but the characters are never really met.  Except for Vega, and
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1428 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
In response to Darrick's "humorous happenings," here's one: My first
attempt at storyteller resulted in one of my better games (beginner's
mind). My player's ninja got in a fight with Vega in a small town in
Japan. He was young then, and really had no chance of winning. Trying
to outsmart Vega, he makes a bomb filled with alchohol from a local bar
before going out to face Vega. As he attempted to use it from behind
Vega, the spanish ninja did a backflip over his character, landing
behind him. My player aborted the action, and interrupted Vega on the
next move, and hit him with the "coctail." Vega quickly goes into a
stop, drop and roll to put out the fire. However, my player's
character bore a real grudge, and wasn't about to let him off so
easily. He took the rest of the bottle and started dumping the
remaining fluid on Vega as he was trying to put himself out. So
picture the mental image. After that, Vega starts crawling away, to
the Jeeps so that he can get out of the town. Unfortunately, the Jeeps
had exploded from an earlier effort to take out Vega's men, so he was
forced to crawl, burning in the hot sun, out of town as my player am my
character watched. :)
--- Darrick Chen <dare2live@...> wrote:
> Fred, if you're looking for Street Fighter Books, I
> can tell you they're
> going o be very hard to find on the net. I've been
> searching for the better
> part of the year looking for Contenders, the only
> book I don't have. I
> happen to know a bookstore in DeKalb, Illinois who
> not only has Secrets of
> Shadoloo, Perfect Warrior, and the Storyteller's
> screen; they also have them
> for 75% off. I'll try to dig up the number and maybe
> you and they can whip
> up some sorta mail order deal.
>
> On that note, any one who knows where I can get
> Contenders, PLEASE TELL ME.
> It has continually confounded me, trying to locate
> this book.
>
> About willpower, since I use the Dex+Tech "to-hit"
> rules, I usually say that
> you can use willpower to add a success on a to-hit
> and Chi to add a point of
> damage.
>
> About the question of honor: A mass beating of one
> woman is indeed a heinous
> act, but the characters wee unaware of her true
> nature. They acted
> accordingly, although a bit extreme. I wouldn't
> penalize them so much as
> have their actions weigh heavily on them for the
> next few campaigns. IF
> anyone else finds out about the incident, THEN have
> a drop in honor and/or
> glory. (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan
> mercilessly taunt the characters
> by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!"
>
> Incindentally that's an interesting and amusing
> accurrence. I have to ask:
> What are your guys' most humorous moments in a SF
> campaign? (This should
> result in a few postings).
>
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1429 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
>Hell they should lose honour for breaking into the place.
>If their warriors they realize its wrong not matter the reason.
>

Yep, I agree. But then again, I have adopted an "anything-goes" attitude
towards Renown changes; let it go up or down as soon as something is even
slightly cool/descent/rotten/wossname. This means that saintly characters
receives a high Honor trait, fast, and vise versa and so on and so forth.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1430 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: This e-group
Do you guys have any idea what a nice e-group this is?

(Of course you have. Otherwise you wouldn't have stayed long enough to read
this mail. Stupid me.)

Let me explain by comparing this list to the Battle Fleet Gothic list:

* Subjects get discussed 50 times before they are closed. And then, a weak
later, someone has to dig it up again.

* Complete morons reign. People discuss rule interpretions which they think
are in the rulebook but...

* People can't realise that others are entitled to their own opinion.

* Some get REALLY pissed and starts yelling in obnoxious ways.

And the "our" list is enjoyable since if there is nothing to discuss, it
keeps quiet. (And the BFG list must be ten times bigger or something, but
that's beside the point.)

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1431 From: Seagull Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: This e-group
I just joined this mailing list a couple days ago and I have to completely
agree.

I've been on news groups that are completely crammed of trolls idiots and
otherwise low-intelliect individuals. It's doesn't bother me on news groups,
but I do know certain mailing lists that are fulls of these trolls, and are
not moderated. It bothers me to get rants in your POP mailbox.

I like the culture of this list. Let's keep it up!

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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:40 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] This e-group


> Do you guys have any idea what a nice e-group this is?
>
> (Of course you have. Otherwise you wouldn't have stayed long enough to
read
> this mail. Stupid me.)
>
> Let me explain by comparing this list to the Battle Fleet Gothic list:
>
> * Subjects get discussed 50 times before they are closed. And then, a weak
> later, someone has to dig it up again.
>
> * Complete morons reign. People discuss rule interpretions which they
think
> are in the rulebook but...
>
> * People can't realise that others are entitled to their own opinion.
>
> * Some get REALLY pissed and starts yelling in obnoxious ways.
>
> And the "our" list is enjoyable since if there is nothing to discuss, it
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1432 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
I wonder if thats a misprint. Cause spending a willpower is supposed to give you
one automatic success isnt it?. Ill have to check it up.

Mike Morgado wrote:

> Actually I believe its to roll an aditional die of damage...its not a
> guranteed success.
>
> The rule is on page 141 of the main book. Example of Play: Turn 6.
>
> "Jade's player, Laura, wants Jade to give it her best shot, so she decides
> to spend a point of willpower for an extra die."
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> Its the only place I can find it
>
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> >Hey Christian.
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> >
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1433 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Guys its not that simple. I dont think you can apply honour penalties and
bonus's at a later date. Honour is honour whether its a shadaloo agent or a
innocent woman.
It was 4 on one. and they were breaking into her house. Did the woman want to
fight?

As for humour.ahh ok try this but im not sure.

One of my players was trying to to learn the fire ball finally his brother a
(commanding officer)decided to teach him(The c/o had just got into a fight with
vega and was badly hurt.) After the C/o did it once he asked his brther(the
player to imitate. He failed(cause he didnt have enough experiance but I didnt
tell him.).
THe c/o the collapsed from all his wounds. And the pplayer kept trying to do the
fireball over and over and over..mean while his brother has collapsed and is
lying there possibly dead! I did the collapse bit to add drama but i didnt
expect that.
Reason he kept doing it though was he wanted to show the c/o he's not a failure.



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> Fred, if you're looking for Street Fighter Books, I can tell you they're
> going o be very hard to find on the net. I've been searching for the better
> part of the year looking for Contenders, the only book I don't have. I
> happen to know a bookstore in DeKalb, Illinois who not only has Secrets of
> Shadoloo, Perfect Warrior, and the Storyteller's screen; they also have them
> for 75% off. I'll try to dig up the number and maybe you and they can whip
> up some sorta mail order deal.
>
> On that note, any one who knows where I can get Contenders, PLEASE TELL ME.
> It has continually confounded me, trying to locate this book.
>
> About willpower, since I use the Dex+Tech "to-hit" rules, I usually say that
> you can use willpower to add a success on a to-hit and Chi to add a point of
> damage.
>
> About the question of honor: A mass beating of one woman is indeed a heinous
> act, but the characters wee unaware of her true nature. They acted
> accordingly, although a bit extreme. I wouldn't penalize them so much as
> have their actions weigh heavily on them for the next few campaigns. IF
> anyone else finds out about the incident, THEN have a drop in honor and/or
> glory. (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly taunt the characters
> by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!"
>
> Incindentally that's an interesting and amusing accurrence. I have to ask:
> What are your guys' most humorous moments in a SF campaign? (This should
> result in a few postings).
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1434 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
There is a free mortal combat RPG called mortal conquest ,some guys did.
Im not sure if its still up. I could be used as a source for you.

Seagull wrote:

On the net I've found conversions for all the SF family games. Has anyone seen any Mortal Kombat characterws dapted to the SF RPG? If not, I'll just whip some up myself. Just curious. --
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1435 From: Tom Pascuttini Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
After SF2 the sf3 story takes place. the man villain is called gill.
but SF3 has taken several revamps similair to SF2. In the origianl sf3
the characters are:
Ken
Ryu
Sean (Kens new student)
Elena ( a capoerista princess from brazil.)
Oro(An earth elemental.)
Alex(Supposedly the new hero of the story Ive heard.)
Ibuki(A ninja girl with possible relation to Geki from SF1)
Yun and Yang(Two chinese kung fu kids one does skate boarding.)
Necro(Some sort of strange science/cybernetic/something creation)
Dudley(A rich british boxer)

There are 2 sf 3 revamps after that one. New characters in them include
Akuma(Who looks older)
Chun Li
Uri(Gills brother a strange metal elemental.)
There are several others I Cant remember right now.
But since you havnt been keeping up the other SF games are the Alpha
series. Alpha, 1, 2, 3. Several games that take place between SF1 and SF2.


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> I have no idea what happens after Super Street Fighter 2. Its the last one
> I played. Unfortunately, we dont have an arcade in my pathetic little city,
> and I just recently got a PlayStation. So if someone could tell me what
> games are out after Super SF 2, and where I could find the story with all
> the characters, that would be great. Like what happened to Ken, Ryu, etc.
> after SF2.
>
> How many people use the world warriors and other characters from the video
> game, and other video games, in their adventures? When we play, the names
> are mentioned but the characters are never really met. Except for Vega, and
> Cammy. Those are the only two that the players have ever met.
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1436 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
Well as far as the SF3 storyline, a bit of time seems to have passed; Ken
now has a three year old son named Mel (though he looks older than that to
me)and Ryu is, well, pretty much the same. As for connected storylines, it
is rumored that Yun and Yang are relatives of Gen. Also, Chun Li will be in
the third version of SF3, so maybe we'll find out a little more.

As far as World Warriors in campaigns go, I had quite a few showing up. One
of my players was the younger brother of Charlie, whose last name I decided
to be Nash. A big part of his adventure was, and is, finding his older
brother who may yet still be alive. As to be expected, Guile popped up from
time to time.

Once I had a huge ninja gathering (one of my other players was a ninja) and
had every Ninja character (except for Vega) make an appearance. This
included Guy, Kairi, Hokuto, and Ibuki.

Rose stayed with my characters for a long while (before disappearing in a
building explosion) and served as a sort of mentor/adviser.

One of the best moments was when I had my players compete against World
Warriors in an exhibition match (scrubs, anyone?). Dahlsim shook hands with
my player FROM ACROSS THE RING. My ninja player had to face off against
Blanka, who entered the ring via a large metal cage suspended by a hook.

To be honest, it got a little ridiculous at times, but then again, I wasn't
really expecting the campaign to last any amount of time.

Later,

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1437 From: Darrick Chen Date: 6/23/1999
Subject: GenCon
As the time draws nearer, I've gotta ask:

Is anyone on this list attending GenCon this year?

GenCon is like this huge Midwest gaming sci-fi convention in Milwaukee.
Basically a weekend trade show with tons of good stuff.

I'm thinking about attending this year, and if anyone is going and maybe
wants to get a SF game on, I'd be happy to run the sucker.

Let me know,


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Group: streetfighter Message: 1438 From: SlpStck@aol.com Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
In a message dated 6/23/99 12:26:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dare2live@... writes:

<< (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly taunt the characters
by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!" >>
i know this will sound like a most unusual request, but does anyone have
stats for good ol' dan? i've always liked him, for some reason, and would
like to throw him into a campaign. thanx.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1439 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
<<Guys its not that simple. I dont think you can apply honour penalties and
> bonus's at a later date. Honour is honour whether its a shadaloo agent or
> a
> innocent woman.
> It was 4 on one. and they were breaking into her house. Did the woman want
> to
> fight?>>
>
I got to agree here. I think that honour should have been lost (and it was).
After the 4 of them beat up the woman, (who was trying to run away when she
saw there was more than one of them) they carried her into the house. They
ran into the butler and two of the characters kicked the crap out of
him...while he was trying to get away.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1440 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: This e-group
I got to agree here too. I have never had to step in on an arguement and
tell you guys to cool it. Because you will discuss in a mature way, or
someone beats me to it. If you guys never get out of hand when discussing
something. And I dont think I have EVER heard a childish remark from
anyone. I have been on several mailing lists, all of which I eventually
leave because of immature actions and stupid bickering. I constantly tell
people that this is the BEST group I have ever had the pleasure of being a
part of.

Thanks guys

Mike Morgado
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>
> Do you guys have any idea what a nice e-group this is?
>
> (Of course you have. Otherwise you wouldn't have stayed long enough to
> read
> this mail. Stupid me.)
>
> Let me explain by comparing this list to the Battle Fleet Gothic list:
>
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1441 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/24/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
Humorous moments;
 
well, in a game where one of the players is a giant squirrel hybrid, you gotta expect some silliness...
 
for example, whenever my players are getting too badass, I pull out a team of fighters known as Pint-Sized Pain.  This team is made up of three young girls, aged nine through sixteen.  (Ellis, Ryoko, and Sakura).  Fighting them is a lose-lose situation; win, and you know your victory was gained by pounding on children.  Lose, and the crowd never lets you live down the fact that you had your ass kicked by a twelve-year-old.  It doesn't help that these kids are good, either.
 
Anyway, said squirrel hybrid was in a match with these kids, and Ellis launched herself across the arena, landing on the squirrel's head with an Air Smash that not only Dizzied the rodent, but made him pull a Frenzy check.  He failed.  While he was Dizzy, Ellis decided to hog some extra Glory by doing a Pose.  In this case, she got up on her tiptoes and kissed the furry bugger on the nose.  She was inches away from his face when he snapped out of the Dizzy and went into a Frenzy.  Scared the shit out of the kid and resulted in an amusing chase scene around the ring for a few rounds until the squirrel made his Chi roll.
 
My other two favorite scenes involved the time I pulled a bit of extra-dimensional madness and sent the players into the Star Wars universe.  As soon as they found out they were in the timeframe between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, they immediately sought out the Rebellion.  Upon meeting them, one player requested to speak to Luke Skywalker, and upon doing so, immediately said "Hi Luke.  Darth Vader's your father."
 
Second one involved the female player meeting Han Solo.  First, she rushed over and hugged Chewbacca, startling the Wookiee.  Then, she requested Han Solo's autograph, which he gave... in the foreign language of the Star Wars universe, naturally.  This prompted her response;
"Damn!  I met Harrison Ford, and I can't even prove it!"
 
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To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:09 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Books, willpower, and other stuff.

Fred, if you're looking for Street Fighter Books, I can tell you they're 
going o be very hard to find on the net. I've been searching for the better 
part of the year looking for Contenders, the only book I don't have. I 
happen to know a bookstore in DeKalb, Illinois who not only has Secrets of 
Shadoloo, Perfect Warrior, and the Storyteller's screen; they also have them 
for 75% off. I'll try to dig up the number and maybe you and they can whip 
up some sorta mail order deal.

On that note, any one who knows where I can get Contenders, PLEASE TELL ME. 
It has continually confounded me, trying to locate this book.

About willpower, since I use the Dex+Tech "to-hit" rules, I usually say that 
you can use willpower to add a success on a to-hit and Chi to add a point of 
damage.

About the question of honor: A mass beating of one woman is indeed a heinous 
act, but the characters wee unaware of her true nature. They acted 
accordingly, although a bit extreme. I wouldn't penalize them so much as 
have their actions weigh heavily on them for the next few campaigns. IF 
anyone else finds out about the incident, THEN have a drop in honor and/or 
glory. (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly taunt the characters 
by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!"

Incindentally that's an interesting and amusing accurrence. I have to ask: 
What are your guys' most humorous moments in a SF campaign? (This should 
result in a few postings).



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Group: streetfighter Message: 1442 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: SF Story
>I rarely ever ues the world warriors except for the WW tournament every
>couple of (real) years. There are just so many better possibilities
>for your own NPC's than the generic ones, though their names are fun to
>throw around.

Same here... or wait.

Blanka has appeared and been helpful once; I played the "nuclear strike from
the Amazon"-scenario.

T Hawk had a spiritual conversation or two with an equally huge Native PC
(Ok, he's not THAT big, but almost).

Chun Li taught one PC Whirlwind Kick. Lame. Wish it'd never happened.

Gen chased one group all over Hongkong. Boy, were they scared or what!

Apart from that I've let the WW:s drift about tournaments, rumours of their
locations floating about and so on. They have their own affairs to attend
to.

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1443 From: KristoferLundstr�m Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
>There is a free mortal combat RPG called mortal conquest ,some guys did.

Ahem. Mortal _K_onquest actaully.

>
>Im not sure if its still up. I could be used as a source for you.
>

U betcha it's still up!

http://members.aol.com/mirage1813/toc.htm

I have a copy in pure text lying about, roughly 100k big. If anyone wants
it, mail me.

Kristofer

P.S. Can someone start a discussion? My creativity is no more and the list
seems dormant.

>Seagull wrote:
>
> > On the net I've found conversions for all the SF family games. Has
> > anyone seen any Mortal Kombat characterws dapted to the SF RPG? If
> > not, I'll just whip some up myself. Just curious. --
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1444 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: MK Conversions
I've done a few, but due to character interpretation none of them are the same rank.  I've got Sub Zero up at seven and Kung Lao down at three, for example.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] MK Conversions

On the net I've found conversions for all the SF family games. Has anyone seen any Mortal Kombat characterws dapted to the SF RPG? If not, I'll just whip some up myself. Just curious.
 
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Group: streetfighter Message: 1445 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
can I change my answer?
 
dock 'em four. :p
 
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To: 'streetfighter@egroups.com' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 1:17 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.

<<Guys its not that simple. I dont think you can apply honour penalties and
> bonus's at a later date. Honour is honour whether its a shadaloo agent or > a > innocent woman. > It was 4 on one. and they were breaking into her house. Did the woman want > to > fight?>> >
I got to agree here. I think that honour should have been lost (and it was). After the 4 of them beat up the woman, (who was trying to run away when she saw there was more than one of them) they carried her into the house. They ran into the butler and two of the characters kicked the crap out of him...while he was trying to get away. MikeM

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1446 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Willpower question
Normally, yes.  But I believe the rule was altered (either intentionally or unintentionally) or combat, because otherwise automatic damage for Willpower is undesirable from a game-balance point of view.
 
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:31 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Willpower question

I wonder if thats a misprint. Cause spending a willpower is supposed to give you
one automatic success isnt it?. Ill have to check it up.

Mike Morgado wrote:

> Actually I believe its to roll an aditional die of damage...its not a > guranteed success. > > The rule is on page 141 of the main book. Example of Play: Turn 6. > > "Jade's player, Laura, wants Jade to give it her best shot, so she decides > to spend a point of willpower for an extra die." > > Its the only place I can find it > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Pascuttini <galactus@...> > To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:27 PM > Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Willpower question > > >Hey Christian. > >I dont think your there to answer this one....but its not a rule . you can > spend > >a willpower to give extra damage. > > > >Christian Conkle wrote: > > > >> I seem to remember reading somewhere that a player can't spend a > Willpower > >> to ensure a damage point. I can't find the reference anywhere. Am I in > error > >> in remembering this or is it really in the book somewhere? > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------- > >> Christian Conkle > >> Web Development Specialist > >> Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory > >> > >> work: conklec@... > >> home: conkle@... > >> ----------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> SIGN UP NOW FOR FREE HOME IMPROVEMENT HOW-TO'S > >> Receive seasonal how-to's and climate-specific advice via e-mail. > >> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/131 > >> > >> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > >> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > >Click Here! > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > >www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SIGN UP NOW FOR FREE HOME IMPROVEMENT HOW-TO'S > Receive seasonal how-to's and climate-specific advice via e-mail. > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/131 > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/streetfighter > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

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Group: streetfighter Message: 1447 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
Subject: Re: Books and Honour Loss
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    not necessarily.  otherwise, a ninja player character would find his honor draining away every week.
     
    I once banged a player with a five point loss for unnecessary death.  The team had broken into an Order of Heavenly Unity church in Las Vegas, and had subdued and tied up a Theon.  They tried to question him, and he chose to read the mind of his interrogator.  The Willpower contest failed, but as soon as the player realized his mind was being invaded, he let the Theon have it with a Fierce Punch.  The Theon, having previously been beaten down to about two health, ate at least six points of aggravated damage from the hit.  I ruled that the downward punch broke his neck due to the circumstances.
     
    So, the results of an action tend to outweight the intent and method, in my book.  If, as a result of the breakin, an innocent person got thrashed, then penalties should apply for the thrashing, not the breakin, especially if the players (at the time) thought they were helping.  Penalties only apply if they discover otherwise, as they did.  Especially since you can tell if someone is a trained fighter or not after a round or two, which this fight appeared to last longer than.  Even a Shadoloo agent, unless he or she is a Street Fighter, does not require four people to subdue.
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tom Pascuttini <galactus@sympatico.ca>
    To: streetfighter@egroups.com <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:08 AM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Books and Honour Loss

    Hell they should lose honour for breaking into the place.
    If their warriors they realize its wrong not matter the reason.

    Steve Karstensen wrote:

     well, once they found out the woman was innocent, then yes; honor loss applies.  Was she combat trained?  If so, I would only dock them 1, 2 (temporary) max.  If not, and they had a way to discover this, then I may kick the penalty up to 3. -----Original Message-----
    From: Morgado, Mike <MMorgado@suncor.com>
    To: 'streetfighter@egroups.com' <streetfighter@egroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:46 PM
    Subject: [streetfighter] Re: Books and Honour Loss
     
    I might be able to get a copy of Secrets of Shadoloo. Will let you know
    asap.
    
    btw, I actually got to run a session of Street Fighter last weekend.  It was
    a great time
    
    But something came up during the session that kind of surprised me.  How
    much honour do you think the group should lose for 4 street fighters
    attacking 1 woman?
    
    Heres the scoop.  They were trying to break into a mansion to steal a sword.
    The one Thai kickboxer failed his stealth role and was discovered.  The
    woman, (used the stats for lifer) began to fight with him. She was defending
    her home after all.  The second round the other three players who were in
    hiding jumped out and surrounded her.  She ran, and the Wu Shu guy, jumped
    and kicked her in the back.  They then surrounded her and beat her into
    unconsciousness.  
    
    Now the group did think they were stealing the sword from a shadoloo agent.
    Later they discovered it was a trick by shadoloo, and they were actaully
    working for shadoloo. I was shocked that they all attacked one woman.  I
    think some honour loss is in order, but just can't decided on how much.  
    
    They all feel really bad....not as bad as theyre going to feel when her
    boyfriend comes looking for them.  :)
    
    
    Mike Morgado
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Fred Chagnon [SMTP:seagull@netcom.ca]
    > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:32 AM
    > To:   streetfighter@egroups.com
    > Subject:      [streetfighter] Books
    > 
    > Just wondering if anyone wants to sell any of their source books. I have
    > the core rulebook, Contenders, and the screen. I'm looking to replace my
    > torn up Secrets of Shadoloo, as well I can't find the Player's Guide or
    > the Perfect Warrior anywhere.  
    > thx,  
    > --
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1448 From: Dark Light Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
    >Second one involved the female player meeting Han Solo. First, she rushed
    >over and hugged Chewbacca, startling the Wookiee. Then, she requested Han
    >Solo's autograph, which he gave... in the foreign language of the Star Wars
    >universe, naturally. This prompted her response;
    >"Damn! I met Harrison Ford, and I can't even prove it!"

    Thats just wierd, question though, what did he give her the autograph with?
    There's no paper (or pens for that matter) in the starwars universe!

    Dennis

    P.S.wait a minute, were you just using the game to have fun with friends
    using a cool, albeit unusuall, plot twist? & actually not bothering to
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1449 From: Steve Karstensen Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.

     
    >glory. (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly taunt the characters 
    
    >by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!"
    heh. in my campaign, this wouldn't really have much of an effect... since I borrow heavily
    from anime, where strong central female characters are the rule, rather than the exception,
    there are many more female Street Fighters than not.  Pisses off one of my players to no 
    end, since he hates to fight women.
    
    
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1450 From: Dark Light Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: SF Movie
    OK, how about this,

    Ideal casting for a well done live street fighter film.

    Dennis


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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1451 From: Morgado, Mike Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: I hate when that happens
    Ok, this is something else that happened last game session.

    The group went to Las Vegas to try and retrieve the sword which they had
    stollen and handed over to Shadoloo.

    The group encountered a very powerful StreetFighter working for Balrog. I
    thought that this guy would give him a run for their money. Well 7 rounds
    later, hes out cold and the whole group is still standing.

    Just thought I would vent. :) Anyone else run into this before?

    Thanks

    Mike Morgado
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1452 From: Will Dixon Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: Re: Books, willpower, and other stuff.
    Man, just make up your own for Dan, that's half the fun of it! He's
    not "terrible," he'd have hurricane kick, Dragon punch, axe kick,
    throw, all the basics, but you'd have to make him taunt a lot. Just
    give him 5/5/5 attributes, and a lot of 4's for techniques, and 3 for
    focus. (also, modify the fireball so it only has a hex range of one.
    Godouken!
    --- SlpStck@... wrote:
    > In a message dated 6/23/99 12:26:23 PM Eastern
    > Daylight Time,
    > dare2live@... writes:
    >
    > << (Imagine, Ken and/or especially Dan mercilessly
    > taunt the characters
    > by calling them "girl hitters! girl hitters!" >>
    > i know this will sound like a most unusual request,
    > but does anyone have
    > stats for good ol' dan? i've always liked him, for
    > some reason, and would
    > like to throw him into a campaign. thanx.
    >
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1453 From: Charles Little Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: Re: MK Conversions
    On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Kristofer Lundstr�m wrote:
    > >There is a free mortal combat RPG called mortal conquest ,some guys did.
    >
    > Ahem. Mortal _K_onquest actaully.
    >
    > >
    > >Im not sure if its still up. I could be used as a source for you.
    > >
    >
    > U betcha it's still up!
    >
    > http://members.aol.com/mirage1813/toc.htm
    >
    > I have a copy in pure text lying about, roughly 100k big. If anyone wants
    > it, mail me.
    >
    > Kristofer
    >
    > P.S. Can someone start a discussion? My creativity is no more and the list
    > seems dormant.
    A new discussion, OK.

    Anybody ever read the Jademan series of comics? (Oriental Heroes, Blood of
    Heroes, and many more) They were very much based off of the Kung Fu
    movies we see on TV.
    If so, has anyone tried to convert any to SF? I have used them in GURPS,
    and the campaign worked out well. They seem like prime candidates for SF.
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    Group: streetfighter Message: 1454 From: Fred Chagnon Date: 6/25/1999
    Subject: Re: SF Movie
    I'd have to sit down and watch many UFC videos to get an accurate casting.
    I can tell you one thing, it certainly wouldn't have Van-Damme. In fact I can't think of anyone famous that would be in it...
     
    Tank Abbot would make a great Zangief. :)
     
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    seagull@...
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    Liam Neeson - The Phantom Menace.
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dark Light
    Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 8:12 AM
    Subject: [streetfighter] SF Movie

    OK, how about this,

    Ideal casting for a well done live street fighter film.

    Dennis


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