I dont think any of you should make stats for your selves.
You only get a wrong impression of your self and limit your self.

>From: brian fish <fishbn@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Well, here's my stats as a fighter..
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:59:43 -0400
>
>I only gave myself a grab of a 4 because I have done a LOT of grappling and
>back in the day before my concussion I was training in judo around 4 hours
>a day, four days a week. Maybe a 3 would have been more appropriate but I
>am very good, I have the "grappler instincts". I can also assure you that
>Shan does indeed have a block of a 4, it's the scariest thing I've ever
>seen, even before I started training him hardcore, he was blocking
>EVERYTHING. . . . .
> >> I thought my scores sucked, and I can fight pretty well.....
> >>
> >The first people to do their stats did a pretty good job of it... though
>I
> >still don't think that most people have a four in any skill, let alone a
> >five...
> >
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Good advice.

That movie was wicked. When I first heard about it thought it was gonna
suck. Saw some promos. Not bad. Finally saw it... Amazing.
Didnt expect anything and I liked it.

>From: "J. Scott Pittman" <joespitt@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Well, here's my stats as a fighter..
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:24:39 -0700
>
>Alright children, let's play nice...
>
>Hey, we're all here to have fun. Nobody was trying to attack anyone, I'm
>sure most of it was just "joshing" as we say in the south. Let's calm down
>and enjoy Street Fighter - that's what the list is about. If someone says
>something you don't agree with, try walking away from the computer for a
>while, so when you come back you can answer in a mature way, without being
>hurt or angry. I've had to do it myself. I'd hate to see anyone banned from
>the list and regretting it later.
>
>Let me change the subject - has anyone here besides me seen the x-men?
>

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Thank god Ray Park didnt do any Martial arts. It would have just killed the
movie. I went to see X-men, not toad doing Wushu.
If I saw that I would have had a very negative attitude to that part of the
movie. That lttle bit with the staff was ok, but thats it.

>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] X-men
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:25:54 -0400
>
>| X-men was excellent. Very well done, with good pacing to keep you
>| interested. Apparently those unfamiliar with the comic had no trouble
>| following the plot, which is the major item that I had been concerned
>with.
>| As far as fight scenes go Mystique has some great moves. And as far as
>what
>| this has to do with street fighter just realize that the super
>ridiculously
>| high flipping Jumps are what the Jump maneuver is all about, and this
>movie
>| took out the cheese (aka obvious wires) and make it look good.
>
>I think as far as fight scenes go, Toad's character could have been played
>up a little more. Ray Parks is an amazing martial artist, and just doesn't
>get the credit he deserves.
>
>Everyone knows that movie was filmed in Toronto right?
>Okay..just checking. :)
>
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Man I dont know you people can be like that.
A friend of mine complained that wolverine was supposed yo be shorter than
cyclops.....Thats stupid! SO what , there supposed to find some one exactly
5'4 with hairy back and arms. Its a minor thing. No biggy.
I think If you were thinking like that, you were maybe expecting to much.

>From: Mark Radic <radicm@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Digest Number 143
>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Actually I just saw X-men last night and was pleased
>for the most part.. but foiund the writers were fairly
>liberal with the ages of people
>
>Mark
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(Laugh) I dont usually reply to jokes but that was Funny.

>From: Chris Hoffmann <staredown@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Myself? Or a facsimile thereof....
>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:43:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--- "J.J." <tyger1@...> wrote:
>
> > 'Head' Bite (or any other readly available location)
>
><SLIGTLY CRUDE SET EQUAL TO "ON">
>
>The champion was in bad shape. The contender was good and was just a few
>seconds away from the pin. Then suddenly the champion broke the hold and
>threw
>the contender to the mat and stunned him, then shakelly rose to his feet
>and
>pinned him.
>
>After the match reporters asked how he achieved that dramatic come-back.
>The
>champion looked slightly embarrased and answered, "Well, there I was all
>bent
>up and about to loose my title when I saw these balls hanging in front of
>me.
>I figured if it's good enough for Mike Tyson, it's good enough for me.
>You'd
>be surprised how strong you are after you bite your own balls."
>
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Quite a bit of that can be found in kindred of the east books.
They might be worth checking out if you guys are interested.

>From: "J.J." <tyger1@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: [streetfighter] White Wolf future release:
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:58:06 -0700
>
>I found this while browsing for a Werewolf book, and figured some here
>might
>take interest. It isn't due out for another couple months, but is available
>for preorder at the moment.
>
>It is for Mage: the Ascenscion, and I am hoping that it will follow in the
>footsteps of Spirit Ways in terms of quality.
>
>
>Dragons of the East
>
>With Words of Thunder.
>Shinto priests. Shaolin monks. Ninja clans. Confucian sages. Hindu fakirs.
>Asia is a great dragon, slumbering as it awaits the turning of the age.
>Long
>have the people of Asia known magical secrets. Through the mists of
>shrouded
>legends, they have witnessed the powers of spirits, dragons, feng shui and
>chi energy.
>
>
>We Shake the Pillars of Heaven!
>Here Mage� players and Storytellers will find not only information about
>the
>history of Asiatic mages like the Akashic Brotherhood and the Wu Lung, but
>of other hidden groups in the Far East, as well as the special magic of
>Asia. Here at last are complete rules for the unique sorcery of Asia, plus
>its strange spirits and creatures, magical artifacts and hidden dangers.
>
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Well, about the ages, the movie is supposed to be set around the late '70s
of the comic book (years not issues). It's before the Pheonix storyline, so
it's pretty close actually, with Bobby, Kitty, and Jubilee being a slight
exception.

>From: "Robert Pascuttini" <rpascuttini@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Digest Number 143
>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:37:00 EDT
>
>Man I dont know you people can be like that.
>A friend of mine complained that wolverine was supposed yo be shorter than
>cyclops.....Thats stupid! SO what , there supposed to find some one exactly
>5'4 with hairy back and arms. Its a minor thing. No biggy.
>I think If you were thinking like that, you were maybe expecting to much.
>
> >From: Mark Radic <radicm@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Digest Number 143
> >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Actually I just saw X-men last night and was pleased
> >for the most part.. but foiund the writers were fairly
> >liberal with the ages of people
> >
> >Mark
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Your right, my bad! :)

>From: "Mike" <morg@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [streetfighter] [MOD] our fighters
>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:49:12 -0400
>
><<yes, yes, yesssss. Oh, and by the way, I know that Dougray Scott
>(Wolverine), Famke Jenssen (Jean Grey), and Patrick Steward (Prof X), have
>signed on for two more movies. DROOOOOOL!!!! I even heard of a potential
>Pheonix storyline!!! Life would be grand, indeed.>>
>
>I doubt Dougray Scott will be in any of the sequels since he had to drop
>out
>because of the delay in Mission Impossible II. Hugh Jackman played
>Wolverine.
>
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| Thank god Ray Park didnt do any Martial arts. It would have just killed
the
| movie. I went to see X-men, not toad doing Wushu.
| If I saw that I would have had a very negative attitude to that part of
the
| movie. That lttle bit with the staff was ok, but thats it.

The little bit with that staff to me was Ray Parks saying "Hey remember ne?
I was Darth Maul!!"
I heard he was slated to play Gambit.
I realize this is just a rumour, but I do think he'd do a good
job....despite that fact that everyone except me seems to hate Gambit.

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I don't "hate" Gambit, but I'll always think of him as
"the new guy." The product of committee thinking.

I've heard mixed reviews of X-Men... I think I'll wait
until it comes to the Dollar Theatre before I see
it...

It's too bad Hollywood has to play to the lowest
common denominator. It doesn't look very true to the
original. Where's Nightcrawler? He would have been a
perfect "double agent" between Magneto (a fellow
German?) and Xavier's contingent.

And although Fammke Janssen is definitely one of the
ten hottest females in the known universe, but she
could have at least put some dang red in her hair!

PS: HAS ANYBODY HEARD FROM RINALDO ???

--- Fred Chagnon <seagull@...> wrote:

> | Thank god Ray Park didnt do any Martial arts. It
> would have just killed
> the
> | movie. I went to see X-men, not toad doing Wushu.
> | If I saw that I would have had a very negative
> attitude to that part of
> the
> | movie. That lttle bit with the staff was ok, but
> thats it.
>
> The little bit with that staff to me was Ray Parks
> saying "Hey remember ne?
> I was Darth Maul!!"
> I heard he was slated to play Gambit.
> I realize this is just a rumour, but I do think he'd
> do a good
> job....despite that fact that everyone except me
> seems to hate Gambit.

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mike,

whats up. and congrats on being the founder of such a fine
establishment. i guess i should just break down and let you know the
club address so you can see what it's all about. it just moved
locations so some of the links are still under construction. and
again, if like 30 people just up and joined the guy who runs it would
probably spontaniously combust. but a slow but steady infusion might
be cool.

also if you are into starting your own i would be interested, i warn
you though, it looks like quit a bit of work.

--matt

ok i may regret this when my buddy double dread kicks me out of the
league and then cuts off my head with a vorpal blade but...

http://members.aol.com/fightingspirit2/

check it out.

--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, "Mike" <morg@m...> wrote:
> Welcome aboard.
> I'm one of the administrators (and the originator, thank you, thank
you ;)
> So whats this e-fed thing about anyway? Maybe we will start up our
own.
>
> MikeM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doctorfeit@e... [mailto:doctorfeit@e...]
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:07 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] welcoming myself to the club
>
>
> whats up fellow street fighters. i'm new to the club and only been
> playing the game for about 6 months. i'm in an e-fed based on
street
> fighter rpg rules. i'm looking to meet some friends to talk
strategy
> with and possibly to join th e-fed eventually. i don't run the
e-fed
> though so i make no promises, also i'd like to get to know you
before
> i give out the address. because i dont run the game i can't have
> like
> 30 people joing up at once, i think my buddy who currently runs it
> would have a massive coronary. come on he has a job too!!! (lol)
but
> lets talk and maybe i can squeeze a few of yah in the back door.
i'm
> also looking for some allies to my faction of heels, the league is
> currently over run by face
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i'd like to get to know some of the other members here, when is a
good
day and/or time to log on and chat live?

Wow an nonlayer on the group. Ahh Well first I want to say hi.
About the books I dont know. I know a few places in Toronto you can get them
but otherwise ...sorry. Some one was selling them a while ago here.

>From: wiconley@...
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Last Call
>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:16:16 EDT
>
>I am new to this newsgroup... and I still do not have the info necessary to
>create a character... could someone tell me where I might find the
>sourcebook(s), preferable online...
>
>-W

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good luck

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>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] like to get to know some members
>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:44:51 -0000
>
>i'd like to get to know some of the other members here, when is a
>good
>day and/or time to log on and chat live?
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>From: Charles Little <wraith808@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Well, here's my stats as a fighter..
>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > Alright children, let's play nice...
> >
> > Hey, we're all here to have fun. Nobody was trying to attack anyone, I'm
> > sure most of it was just "joshing" as we say in the south. Let's calm
>down
> > and enjoy Street Fighter - that's what the list is about. If someone
>says
> > something you don't agree with, try walking away from the computer for a
> > while, so when you come back you can answer in a mature way, without
>being
> > hurt or angry. I've had to do it myself. I'd hate to see anyone banned
>from
> > the list and regretting it later.
> >
>No problems mate, I was actually chuckling over the whole thing... wasn't
>going to reply at all, but wanted to let it be know that I was trying to
>inject a reality check into it, and get people to look at the definition
>of four and five...
>
>
> > Let me change the subject - has anyone here besides me seen the x-men?
> >
>Twice already. thought it pretty much rocked, but I could tell that they
>cut out 40 minutes. Liked all the cameos...
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>spoiler
>space
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>THat shoudl be enough. How about a contest to see who can identify the
>most cameos? I saw colossus, pyro, iceman, shadowkat, quicksilver,
>jubilee...
>

I didnt see Colossus or Quicksilver, but I do know that there was originally
going to be a Colossus and Beast but were cut do to budget restraints.
(They wont have that problem for 2...)
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| i'd like to get to know some of the other members here, when is a
| good
| day and/or time to log on and chat live?

We've never really used the chat feature of eGroups. One time we tried to
start up an IRC channel, but that didn't fly either.

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Just noticed that today (July 22nd) marks 2 years of this mailing list being
on egroups. I realize it existed unofficially before moving to egroups, but
it's still neat.

(and there was much rejoicing)

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On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Yasuharu Konishi
<robotomizer@...> writes:

> I don't "hate" Gambit, but I'll always think of him as
> "the new guy." The product of committee thinking.

I've always never been impressed by Gambit for no particular reason.
(maybe because his attack call-out in x-men vs SF got annoying).

> It's too bad Hollywood has to play to the lowest
> common denominator. It doesn't look very true to the
> original. Where's Nightcrawler? He would have been a
> perfect "double agent" between Magneto (a fellow
> German?) and Xavier's contingent.

They had a very limited budget for the movie considering the type of
movie they did. I think they did an excellent job putting a comic into a
well-structured film without horribly mangling any of the characters. The
Street Fighter movie on the other hand...

I actually wouldn't mind seeing it again. It's one of those films that
many expected to suck and were blown away by the fact it didn't. However,
a movie can't ever replace a book, especially a long-running comic like
X-men, but it can bring to life certain moments and characters for a
limited time.

> And although Fammke Janssen is definitely one of the
> ten hottest females in the known universe, but she
> could have at least put some dang red in her hair!

It looked to me like she did.

> > The little bit with that staff to me was Ray Parks
> > saying "Hey remember ne?

I found that really funny.

Knight of the Black Rose
"Absolute Destiny Tango"

<< Not me man. Dark Sun all the way! >>

Dark Sun. Hairless Dwarves. Cannibal Halflings. Gladiator Humans.
Patchwork Armor cause it's too hot to wear it. Magic that kills off
vegetation when you cast it making the world an even bigger desert.
Magicians at high level become Dragons. Druids/Priests become elementals.
And those damn snooty elves are now the equivalent of an unwelcome band of
traveling gypsies. Now does anyone still wonder why this is my favorite D&D
setting of all time?

Hey. I was just looking over this move that was in my mail.
Some letters I keep for a while. I finally realized what would make this
move more interesting.

If a person does deflecting kick then he is more prone to losing balance You
should add something that makes him more susceptable to
falling.

>From: "Jade M Prout" <twitchboy@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: [streetfighter] BLock maneuver contest.
>Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 13:39:46 -0400
>
>cliff rice wrote:
>
> >My new source book is seriously lacking in the block maneuver department
>so i would be greatful if anyone would send me home made block maneuvers
>the Top 3 will end up in my source book. i would apriceate it greatly.
> >
> >Cliff__________________________________________
>
>Here's one that should have been invented by now... kind of a no-brainer...
>
>DEFLECTING KICK
>
>PREREQUISITES: Block *** Kick * Kick Defense
>Power Points: Wing Chun*, Kung Fu, Jeet Kune Do, Savate, Western
>Kickboxing, etc. 1; Any 2
>
>Until now, fighters who rely mostly on kicks have been unable to reap the
>benefits of Deflecting Punch. But if you've seen a Bruce Lee movie, you've
>seen him counter a kick with a kick time and time again.
>
>The fighter using Deflecting Kick times his counter-kick to intercept the
>attacker's kicking leg, inflicting damage and lessening the impact of the
>incoming kick.
>
>SYSTEM: The fighter must interrupt an opponent's Kick maneuver; the
>defender gets his full Block soak against the kick. If the attacker uses
>any other type of Technique other than a Kick, the defenser gets no soak
>bonus, but may still land the counterattack...
>
>Once the opponent has dealt damage, the fighter immediately gets to land
>his counter-kick unless he was Dizzied, Knocked Down, or Knocked Back out
>of range. Damage is calculated using the defender's Kick technique.
>
>COST: None
>SPEED: +1
>DAMAGE: +1
>MOVE: None
>
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Hey guys loooking thru old letters again and found this one.

A rapier is much lighter than The Jien And broad sword. The tai chi sword
looks similair to the jien Straight sword. But have never used it. So I
would give the Jien and Taichi sword same stats.

I'll try to see if I can develope appropriate stats.

>From: Jens-Arthur Leirbakk <leirbakk@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:10:17 +0200 (METDST)
>
>On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, brian fish wrote:
>
> > Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should be like
> > spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!
>
>You mean a Wu Shu Jien, or Chinese Broadsword? :) Anyways, they're
>probably something similar to the Rapier, actually, or +0 and +3 or
>something like that ;)
>
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And the winner is (Drumm roll.) Wayne French He sent
like 20 maneuvers many of which were actualy good.
he will get many props in my source book.

Cliff

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Hi carl. I do still have the screen and I'm willing to sell it. I'm
American. Will that make a diffrence in the cost of sending the screen you
think?

Scott

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To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Streetfighter Screen/EPICS


> I'm in for the screen since my copy of "Shades of Grey" fell in the bath
> water :P
>
> American Or Canadian?
>
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>From: "Fred Chagnon" <seagull@...>
>Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
>To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [streetfighter] X-men
>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:12:37 -0400
>
>| Thank god Ray Park didnt do any Martial arts. It would have just killed
>the
>| movie. I went to see X-men, not toad doing Wushu.
>| If I saw that I would have had a very negative attitude to that part of
>the
>| movie. That lttle bit with the staff was ok, but thats it.
>
>The little bit with that staff to me was Ray Parks saying "Hey remember ne?
>I was Darth Maul!!"
>I heard he was slated to play Gambit.
>I realize this is just a rumour, but I do think he'd do a good
>job....despite that fact that everyone except me seems to hate Gambit.

Well, I don't hate Gambit. In fact, I was kind of upset he wasn't in the
movie. But I can forgive (I also heard Gambit will appear in 2).

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It seems that no matter how hard I try, Warrior's Pride is always late. This
time, it's taking me a little longer then I thought to format some of the
later submissions. Depending on how much time I have to work on it tommorow,
it will come out either tommorow night or the next day. Sorry about this,
and I would hate to know what you guys think of someone who always gets this
thing out late..heh

Dustin

Recently overheard at this forum...

"All three of you can suck my dick."

--relatively anonymous SF List subscriber

"Dim Mak my ass. . . . . . "

--also anonymous SF List subscriber

"Yep, I love the overwhelming self images that can result from
putting yourself into a roleplaying game."

--My mom

"I certainly don't like the direction this discussion is taking."

--Fred


Nor do I, Fred. It's the Hurtin' again, after an ill-timed absense. Maybe
I should hold off on this whole Fight Club circuit 'till I get my own
computer...nah.

Ok, as most of you have readily observed, there seems to be some discrepency
between people's self-image and the White Wolf System. Admittedly, White
Wolf does not lend itself to mortal traits. Most people find themselves
with nothing more than twos and the odd three.
A few people have thrown out fours and fives, which as most have pointed
out, is very rare. As someone else eloquently put it:

"3 is trained proffesional (snip)
4 is top expert (any of you work at peoplesoft making 250K+ a year? I
thought not), and 5 is... get this... peerless mastery of the
subject."

Now, the obvious question is, if you really are the marvelous physical
specimen you might claim to be, what are you doing playing Street Fighter
the RPG, when you obviously are so badly needed in the UFC?

I've included a list of approved fighters for the BVFC. If you're on the
list, you're in.

Herder- Wrestling
Leirbakk- Samttering of Tae Kwon Do
Brian Fish- Jujitsu
Fred Chagnon-Shotokan Karate (but you only have Computer 3. If you
want to change it, break into my Hotmail account.)
Yasuharu Konishi-Wrestling
Chris Hoffman-Fencing
Cliff Rice-Some form of wrestling

J.Scott Pittman would be on this list, but in order to have a 5 in
manipulation and a 4 in appearance, I need to see a photo... of him
negotiating peace in the Middle East.

Cayr, and J.J., you two said your submissions weren't objective, so please
resubmit them.


For those of you who have been unfairly blessed with skills beyond that of
your mortal brethren with no means to prove it, have I got a deal for you.
Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you a video tape. Get a
camcorder and videotape yourself sparring. Make sure you identify yourself
by name on the tape. I'll include a SASE to return it. If your Star Search
tape proves you to be all you promised and more, you keep your stats and get
a free focus maneuver. S'all right? S'all right.

That's it for the moment. Further house rules and global enchantments to
follow.

The Hurtin'
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| Fred Chagnon-Shotokan Karate (but you only have Computer 3. If you
| want to change it, break into my Hotmail account.)

*sigh*

Just can't get past the MSN Golem. Okay 3 in computers it is.
I had a look at my character again actrually, and you might want to knock my
survival down to one...

Like I said, I mi\ust have been having a good day.

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fchagnon@... make you a better person."
fchagnon@... - Peter Olafson

I could personally vouch for Shan (megaman205), he's like some sort of
genetic freak, he's REALLY strong (he can definately bench more than
250lbs), as for Cayr, I know him in real life too. . . . .and I'm not gonna
comment. As for the UFC comment, I am actually thinking of trying out for
the Olympic team in Pankration for 2004 (if it ever happens, I have heard
things both ways). I will freely admit to making the Dim Mak comment,
because as no one on this list is George Dillman, I am just not seeing it.

Another thing that is key with stats in white wolf is that I see the stats
as a range. For example, strength of 2 means you bench less than 250lbs (me
personally can bench about 160), str of a 3 is 250 - whatever the low end
of 4 is.

Actually I think having a tourney for fun is a good idea, but how do you
determine what is right and wrong? And how would you know who would do
what? I personally know that even though I am technically better than Shan,
and have about 2 years of experience on him, he could beat me in a fight.
And although I think it might be fun, I see too much of an avenue for bad
feelings from the fights, since they are, in effect, ourselves. . . .

If it was questionable, I went with the lower score. Physicals were fairly
easy for me to go over to the YMCA and test out. Intelligence I based off my
high school Iowa and IQ tests. I still want to say Perception at 4, but
can't really qualify it against anything, so I went with 3 there as well.

Strength: 2
Dexterity: 2
Stamina: 3

Charisma: 2
Manipulation: 2
Appearance: 3

Perception: 3
Intelligence: 3
Wits: 3

------

Alertness: 2
Insight: 3
Streetwise: 1

Drive: 2
Security: 1
Stealth: 2
Survival: 1

Arena: 1 (Madison Square Garden, Mecca/Milwaukee Center....)
Computer: 1
Investigation: 1
Medicine: 2 (by WoD books, 1)
Mysteries: 2
Style Lore: 3

------
Renown: 0

Allies: 1
Animal Companion: 1 (Rottweiler)
Backing: 1 (It's great to have successful grandparents)
Resources: 2
------

Punch: 1
Kick: 2
Grab: 1
Athletics: 2
Focus: 0
Firearms: 1
Bow: 1 (I CAN still hit a target.... barely)

-----

Head Butt
Ear Pop
'Head' Bite (or any other readly available location)
Neck Choke

--- cliff rice <shinzite@...> wrote:

> And the winner is (Drumm roll.) Wayne French He sent
> like 20 maneuvers many of which were actualy good.
> he will get many props in my source book.
>
> Cliff
>

Hmm...20 maneuvers, eh? Sound's like a real BLOCK
party to me...

};-P

Josh (ducking out of the way of thrown veggies, etc.)

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Here is the most powerful Special Maneuver in my
"real?" character's arsenal...

ZEN NO SHOW
Req: Focus 1 (don't lambaste me, keep reading)
Cost: Any 1

Using his innate psychic abilities (and command of the
obvious) the fighter gets a glimpse of the future and
sees himself taking a world-class beating at the hands
of a much more proficient (or angry) opponent. He
wisely hops into a cab just before the match. When the
fight starts, he is already halfway home, where he
will turn off the lights and not answer the door.

SYSTEM: The fighter forfeits the match, losing 1 Glory
and 1 Honor, but gains 1 experience point for using
his head for something other than a punching bag.

Speed: as fast as you can run
Damage: to your reputation
Move: to a new address if necessary
Cost: 2 Willpower (because it makes you feel like a
wimp)

I'll be using this one against Cliff if we ever get in
a Boston Crab contest!

Yasu K




PS: Just a few months ago, there were probably a dozen
regulars on this list, and on the whole there wasn't
much rocking of the boat. I've noticed a recent influx
of newcomers and all of a sudden Mike is breaking up
fights? We are guests here; let's act that way.

> Recently overheard at this forum...
> "All three of you can suck my dick."
> "Dim Mak my ass. . . . . . "
> "I certainly don't like the direction this
> discussion is taking."
>
> Nor do I, Fred.

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Okay, here's my second shot at it...

Strength: 2
Dexterity: 1
Stamina: 2

Charisma: 2
Manipulation: 1
Appearance: 2

Perception: 2
Intelligence: 2
Wits: 3

------

Alertness: 2
Insight: 2
Streetwise: 1

Drive: 2
Arena: 1
Computer: 2
Investigation: 1
Style Lore: 3 (I'm a style bookworm of sorts)

------
Renown: 0

Allies: 1
Animal Companion: 1 (Terrier)
Resources: 1
------

Punch: 2
Kick: 1
Grab: 1
Athletics: 1
Focus: 0
Firearms: 0
Wakazashi: 1
-----
Willpower: 1
Chi: 0

Head Butt
Ear Pop
Neck Choke
Brain Cracker (Hey, I've mat wrestled in many past instances, I think I can
do a headlock and beat someone with a noogie-like action => )
Pin (see above)

That should about do it.






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Have a great day!

I just had this realey bright idea. What if we
made a tournament (Ala Friendly fights, Or Ages
tourny)
except we used ourselvs i mean plenty of us have sent
our stats already. What do you all think. I was
figuring we could get a non biased person to medeate
the fights send me your feed back ok.

Cliff

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The Hurtin', man, I really LOVE your sense of humor!!! Here is my own
character, seriously. No cheating. Promised.

Name : Karan - David Nachtergaële
Chronicle : David VS the Grey World of Jobs and Studies
Style : Shaolin Kung Fu
School : Shaolin Temple (the original one)
Concept : Pure Dreamer (gotta have some Fae blood)
Signature : Yooo-Shaaa! Benkyô shinatte...

Strength : 2 to 3 (220 lbs maximum, after that, my back cracks)
Dexterity : 2
Stamina : 1 to 2 (I'm not PUNY, but... 5'5'' for 111 lbs. Quite thin, but my
Strength is justified)

Charisma : 2 to 3 (when I want to, people are impressed. In fact, some of my
friends' parents said that I looked like a sect's guru
Manipulation : 3 (Storyteller since 13 years, politician in local level, and
good-talker)
Appearance : 1 to 2 (quite thin...)

Perception : 2
Intelligence : 3, I'm afraid... I'm still waiting to find somebody who could
follow me in any conversation (OK, my english may seem quite uneasy, I'm
French! but in my native language, I'm really a debater, a thinker; a
dreamer)
Wits : 2.

Alertness : 2, I live in a tough neighborhood...
Insight : 0, I'm unlucky to a strange point...
Interrogation : 1, it's easy to make dumb guys talk
Intimidation : 0, no, not even 6-years kids give me the way. Low profile.
Streetwise : 1 (see Alertness)
Subterfuge : 2 (I got my degree... not totally honestly!)

Blind Fighting : 0 (I cannot do that)
Drive : 0 to 1 (I got my license in 95, and did not drive since!!)
Leadership : 2, I think. Already survived (and helped others to) in a blaze.
Storyteller since 13 years! Club leader since 13 years. Kung Fu
semi-teacher.
Security : 0.
Stealth : 1. I'm not puny, but... little!
Survival : 0.

Arena : 1.
Computer : 2, no more no less.
Investigation : 1
Medicine : 0
Mysteries : 1 to 2, Occultism is a great interest for me!
Style Lore : 3, Martial Arts are a passion in theory!

Honor 3, Glory 0

Allies : 3
Contacts : 2 (I know people who know people high placed)
Resources : a little 1. help me! ^_^!
Sensei : 3. My friend Christophe, who teach me, is not so easy to reach
(always travelling between China, France and Viet-nam), but he's a crack. He
went to Shaolin-Si for eight months (as a monk, not as a tourist), learned
secret styles of Kung-Fu, is invulnerable (yeah, we tried everything to hurt
him for one full hour, and he didn't even break a sweat), has a good spirit
(humble and friendly) and is practicing Wa-Jutsu, Ju-jutsu, Kenpô, Kung-Fu
and Karate since 1982... Yeah...

Punch : 1 to 2. Mantis style.
Kick : 2. I can do that.
Block : 2 to 3. I'm practicing "eight-directions Kung-Fu" and "Seven Stars
Xiang Tao", learning to avoid and/or break the trajectory of any
conventional blow.
Grab : 2. Locks mainly, and chinese grappling.
Athletics : 2. I run fast, and am supple too.
Focus : 1. Just the basic Chi Kung, Tai Chi, Ma Bo, and chinese tree
exercices. ("wow, my hands are hotter and hotter!")
Kung Fu Rope : 1. Long rope with a metal pike.

Maneuvers : Atemi Strike (chinese way, mantis style, with two fingers
protruding), Monkey Grab Punch, Knee Strike, Foot Sweep, Spinning Foot
Sweep, Butterfly Kick (effectively in combat, I mean), Deflecting Punch,
Deflecting Kick, Joint Lock, and it seems to be done!

Sorry if I seem offensive, but I really checked the books of SFtSG, and ...
what could I say, that's my level! I'm not a total beginner. That's all I
have to say to my defense. Please do not flame me. ^_^!


Combo : Jab-Jab-Jab-Knee Strike

You can now download issue #5 of Warrior's Pride at the Streetfighter
Mailing List homepeage (e-groups.com/streetfighter).

I would enjoy hearing any comments or suggestions you may have about the
issue and future issues of Warrior's Pride.

Sorry about the late premiere of the issue.

Dustin.

Okay, i don't think it's appropriate to explain the stats, so I'll go with
three in Manipulation and three in Appearance. Add a flaw to my character -
conceited, heh.

J. Scott Pittman - the only street fighter character to ever be rejected due
to his social attributes!

----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Merton <thehurtin@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:58 PM
Subject: [streetfighter] Buena Vista Cat Fight


>
> Recently overheard at this forum...
>
> "All three of you can suck my dick."
>
> --relatively anonymous SF List subscriber
>
> "Dim Mak my ass. . . . . . "
>
> --also anonymous SF List subscriber
>
> "Yep, I love the overwhelming self images that can result from
> putting yourself into a roleplaying game."
>
> --My mom
>
> "I certainly don't like the direction this discussion is taking."
>
> --Fred
>
>
> Nor do I, Fred. It's the Hurtin' again, after an ill-timed absense.
Maybe
> I should hold off on this whole Fight Club circuit 'till I get my own
> computer...nah.
>
> Ok, as most of you have readily observed, there seems to be some
discrepency
> between people's self-image and the White Wolf System. Admittedly, White
> Wolf does not lend itself to mortal traits. Most people find themselves
> with nothing more than twos and the odd three.
> A few people have thrown out fours and fives, which as most have pointed
> out, is very rare. As someone else eloquently put it:
>
> "3 is trained proffesional (snip)
> 4 is top expert (any of you work at peoplesoft making 250K+ a year? I
> thought not), and 5 is... get this... peerless mastery of the
> subject."
>
> Now, the obvious question is, if you really are the marvelous physical
> specimen you might claim to be, what are you doing playing Street Fighter
> the RPG, when you obviously are so badly needed in the UFC?
>
> I've included a list of approved fighters for the BVFC. If you're on the
> list, you're in.
>
> Herder- Wrestling
> Leirbakk- Samttering of Tae Kwon Do
> Brian Fish- Jujitsu
> Fred Chagnon-Shotokan Karate (but you only have Computer 3. If you
> want to change it, break into my Hotmail account.)
> Yasuharu Konishi-Wrestling
> Chris Hoffman-Fencing
> Cliff Rice-Some form of wrestling
>
> J.Scott Pittman would be on this list, but in order to have a 5 in
> manipulation and a 4 in appearance, I need to see a photo... of him
> negotiating peace in the Middle East.
>
> Cayr, and J.J., you two said your submissions weren't objective, so please
> resubmit them.
>
>
> For those of you who have been unfairly blessed with skills beyond that of
> your mortal brethren with no means to prove it, have I got a deal for you.
> Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you a video tape. Get a
> camcorder and videotape yourself sparring. Make sure you identify
yourself
> by name on the tape. I'll include a SASE to return it. If your Star
Search
> tape proves you to be all you promised and more, you keep your stats and
get
> a free focus maneuver. S'all right? S'all right.
>
> That's it for the moment. Further house rules and global enchantments to
> follow.
>
> The Hurtin'
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>
>
>
>
>
>

J. Scott Pittman wrote:

>
> Secrets of Shadoloo,
> page 27 states:
> "The Tiger Knee will cause a knockdown and can also damage an opponent
> caught in the middle of an aerial maneuver."
>
> There has been much discussion in our gaming mail box about whether
> this means that a character using this maneuver can Knockdown
> ground-based opponents, or if the knockdown only applies to aerial
> opponents. What is the offical
> ruling on this?

White Wolf (pharaphrased): The Maneuver CAN knock down ground-based
opponents as well as aerial opponents.

Hey Guys sorry I haven't responded to a message in a month or two but I was occupied with summer school bummer. Anyway I just recently got through with it and I came back. So did I miss anything massively interesting like for instance did White Wolf all the sudden have a stoke of genius and deicde to put out the Street Fighter books in reprint. Probaly not but one can always hope. I managed to read an interesting e-mail about darksun that somebody posted a few days back you forgot to mention the fact that the elves are not to much of a problem due to the giant 6 ft tall 400 pound mantis's walking around eating them. Anyway I'll try to keep a little more current from now on see ya later guys.

-Chad Phillips

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at the risk of sounding petty...

<nelson>

HA HA!

</nelson>

anyway, who at White Wolf did you contact regarding this?

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:11 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!


J. Scott Pittman wrote:

>
> Secrets of Shadoloo,
> page 27 states:
> "The Tiger Knee will cause a knockdown and can also damage an opponent
> caught in the middle of an aerial maneuver."
>
> There has been much discussion in our gaming mail box about whether
> this means that a character using this maneuver can Knockdown
> ground-based opponents, or if the knockdown only applies to aerial
> opponents. What is the offical
> ruling on this?

White Wolf (pharaphrased): The Maneuver CAN knock down ground-based
opponents as well as aerial opponents.

Please feel free to ignore this. I was trying to get
a new Chat name at Yahoo, and it wouldn't let me use
my rocketmail account. I would still like to keep
recieving stuff through Rocketmail, Mike, so please
don't change my e-mail addy on the group.

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It was an e-mail to the vampire questions and answers thing on their page. I
asked them to ask the writer of the street fighter book the question for me
if they would, even though the e-mail service was for Vampire. I asked a few
mpore questions too, but that was the only one they seemed to be interested
in answering....

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!


>
> at the risk of sounding petty...
>
> <nelson>
>
> HA HA!
>
> </nelson>
>
> anyway, who at White Wolf did you contact regarding this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:11 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!
>
>
> J. Scott Pittman wrote:
> >
> > Secrets of Shadoloo,
> > page 27 states:
> > "The Tiger Knee will cause a knockdown and can also damage an opponent
> > caught in the middle of an aerial maneuver."
> >
> > There has been much discussion in our gaming mail box about whether
> > this means that a character using this maneuver can Knockdown
> > ground-based opponents, or if the knockdown only applies to aerial
> > opponents. What is the offical
> > ruling on this?
>
> White Wolf (pharaphrased): The Maneuver CAN knock down ground-based
> opponents as well as aerial opponents.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

ah. :)

Well if I'm not mistaken, Stephen Wieck wrote Street Fighter, and his E-mail
address is swieck@...

(...or is it weick?)

cool to finally get a confirmation on that, though. thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 7:00 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!


It was an e-mail to the vampire questions and answers thing on their page. I
asked them to ask the writer of the street fighter book the question for me
if they would, even though the e-mail service was for Vampire. I asked a few
mpore questions too, but that was the only one they seemed to be interested
in answering....

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!


>
> at the risk of sounding petty...
>
> <nelson>
>
> HA HA!
>
> </nelson>
>
> anyway, who at White Wolf did you contact regarding this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Scott Pittman [mailto:joespitt@...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:11 AM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Offical Ruling by White Wolf!
>
>
> J. Scott Pittman wrote:
> >
> > Secrets of Shadoloo,
> > page 27 states:
> > "The Tiger Knee will cause a knockdown and can also damage an opponent
> > caught in the middle of an aerial maneuver."
> >
> > There has been much discussion in our gaming mail box about whether
> > this means that a character using this maneuver can Knockdown
> > ground-based opponents, or if the knockdown only applies to aerial
> > opponents. What is the offical
> > ruling on this?
>
> White Wolf (pharaphrased): The Maneuver CAN knock down ground-based
> opponents as well as aerial opponents.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Alright you all asked for it. Here's me in all my glory, the most
non-threatening character to ever grace a spiral notebook:

Name: Lord Azathoth
Player: Al Lukan
Chronicle: My life needs a soundtrack
Style: Fight Dirty
School: Whatever I pick up, three time white belt dropout
Stable: Mentally? Not at All
Team: Whispering Load, N-Force
Concept: Gamer for life
Signature: Kick opponent when he's down

Physical
Strength 2 (average)
Dexterity 2 (average)
Stamina 2 (I tire easily but can take a beating, so it evens out)

Social
Charisma 3 (I'm a charmer!)
Manipulation 3 (Definitely)
Appearance 2/3 (Depends on if I'm wearing my contacts or due for a haircut)

Mental
Perception 3 (Above Average)
Intelligence 3 (Above Average)
Wits 3 (Above Average, but then the average person around here is pretty
dumb/slow/oblivious)

Talents
Alertness 2 (Becomes a 4 for the first hour after watching a scary movie)
Interrogation 4 (You have no idea, I am the biggest sneak and can get
anything out of you without you even knowing I tried, usually with the old "I
already know" ploy, I could back this up but it would take too many stories)
Streetwise 2 (was a 1 till I got jumped, now I know where to walk and where
not to)
Subterfuge 3 (I sell Insurance for Chrissakes!)

Skills
Drive 3 (I am "At One with my car")
Leadership 3 (Definitely effective leader in times of strife)
Survival 0 (wilderness + Al = "Boy lost in woods" headline)

Knowledges
Computer 2 working on a 3
Mysteries 2 or 3, I know a lot of esoteric stuff
Style Lore 1 (I know a boxer punches and a wrestler wrestles…)

Backgrounds
Allies -A shitload
Arena-Any couch, I excel at wrestling on couches and have never been beaten.
Off a couch I'm mincemeat though.
Backing-Yeah, right
Contacts-Um… 2? Tons with useless info but only a few who know anything of
value
Fame-Nope
Manager-Nope
Resources-1, I live paycheck to paycheck
Sensei-1 My uncle the black belt
Staff-nope

Techniques
Punch 2 (I know how to put all my weight behind a punch and how to connect
with a jaw)
Kick 1 (I know how to angle to get full force in your chest or chin)
Block 2 (That time I got jumped it was 9 guys kicking and punching me and I
defended myself and walked away uninjured)
Grab 1 (2 on a couch, I don't know why but whenever I wrestle on a couch or
in a schoolbus seat etc. I am unstoppable! I just use the contours to my
advantage. Really. And fought a lot on the school bus...)
Athletics 1 (I ain't going anywhere fast. To quote my friend when we were
running from a gang of college dropouts in the local sump, "Here, you take
the knife, you're the slowest of us.")
Focus Yeah Right
Escrima Sticks 1 (I can swing them in a nice defensive arc and hit stuff with
them. Yay!)


Style: Fight Dirty-My Uncle only taught me the brutal effective stuff not the
artistic kata stuff. Basically, if you can't knock a guy on his ass with it
he felt it wasn't worth teaching me. This ex-marine did the same thing and
showed me how they killed VC sentries quickly and quietly in Nam', but I
never practiced those since they tend to crush the windpipe of the person
you're sparring with.

Special Moves: Since there are few moves I can perform "consistently" instead
I'm just listing every move I ever remember doing or training to do.
Punch
Dashing Punch (description sounds like how I start my fights)
Modified Spinning Back Fist a.k.a. the "Bitch Slap"

Kicks
Double Hit Kick (Can do it from years of playing HackeySack but choose not to
because I feel it leaves me too open for a strike to the balls)
Flying Knee Thrust (Used it on a kid I didn't like while playing football,
ran up, leapt forward and drove a knee into his chest. We tied that game, no
OT)
Foot Sweep (First move my uncle taught me, and I've long since forgotten how
to do it)
Heel Stamp (Love this move! Keep them at a distance!)

Grabs
Knee Basher
Pin (actually an arm lock)

Athletics
Jumping Shoulder Butt (Basic Move, prefer the Dashing Punch or Heel Stamp
though)

Focus
Sure, Mega Gundam Flare… Alright, you caught me that's the fake one.

Others: Lots of neck and throat strikes, a couple pressure points, and some
other nasty stuff I would never use unless it was life or death-obviously
these have been studied but never tested or put into practice (except the
pressure points). Most blind, disfigure, or attempt to cripple the target.
Don't let that scare you though it's all academic at this point and I would
never say I was a fighter to be feared by any means.

Combo: Heel Stamp to Heel Stamp to Heel Stamp etc… Just keep knocking them
back as they come in on you while you wait for backup!

Chi:1
Willpower: 5

Honor: Not in a street fight, but otherwise I'm usually pretty honorable
Glory: Um… You guys know me.

Health: 8, again, I'm not a good fighter but I can take a beating

Gear: use whatever is available as a weapon or distraction, dirt in the eyes
is a favorite but the wind never seems to go the right direction :)

This is to let everyone know that I am currently redesigning the character
creation rules, as I gave out more points then I actually realized,
especially for Rank 4 characters. I'll delete the old and place a new
version of WP #4 tonight, as well as posting the new rules here. Sorry for
the inconvienience.

1. Is that newest issue of Warrior's Pride number four or five?
Sometimes you say four, sometimes five, and I'd just like to know.

2. What's the procedure to submit something to get some of my work into
Warrior's Pride? I'd love to see some of the stuff I've created into print
:) Thanks!

Danyal Herder

I noticed that sometimes I moved between four and five, and that was a
mistake on my part. The one just released if WP #4. The next issue, which
will be in September, will be issue #5.

The procedure for Warrior's Pride submissions can be found in the "In
Closing" section of Warrior's Pride. I always look foward to new submissions

Dustin.

> 1. Is that newest issue of Warrior's Pride number four or five?
>Sometimes you say four, sometimes five, and I'd just like to know.
>
> 2. What's the procedure to submit something to get some of my work into
>Warrior's Pride? I'd love to see some of the stuff I've created into print
>:) Thanks!
>
> Danyal Herder
>
>
>
>
>
>

You can get the new #4 in the Files section. I completely deleted the one
posted earlier and replaced it. It includes a gadget I had missed adding and
the Secondary Weapon technique and maneuvers that I had also completely
forgotten about. Sorry for the trouble.

--- Thomas Merton <thehurtin@...> wrote:

> Herder- Wrestling
> Leirbakk- Samttering of Tae Kwon Do
> Brian Fish- Jujitsu
> Fred Chagnon-Shotokan Karate (but you only have Computer 3. If you
> want to change it, break into my Hotmail account.)
> Yasuharu Konishi-Wrestling
> Chris Hoffman-Fencing

I gave myself an intelligene of five, does this mean I have to beat you at
math?

> Cliff Rice-Some form of wrestling
>
> J.Scott Pittman would be on this list, but in order to have a 5 in
> manipulation and a 4 in appearance, I need to see a photo... of him
> negotiating peace in the Middle East.

An unfair challenge. Even Bison with his superhuman manipulation and psionic
powers couldn't pull that one off.

> Cayr, and J.J., you two said your submissions weren't objective, so please
> resubmit them.
>
> For those of you who have been unfairly blessed with skills beyond that of
> your mortal brethren with no means to prove it, have I got a deal for you.
> Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you a video tape. Get a
> camcorder and videotape yourself sparring. Make sure you identify yourself
> by name on the tape. I'll include a SASE to return it. If your Star Search
> tape proves you to be all you promised and more, you keep your stats and get
> a free focus maneuver. S'all right? S'all right.

Dibs on Pit. I've always wanted that power anyway.

> That's it for the moment. Further house rules and global enchantments to
> follow.

Just give me a circle of protection (cheeze) and I'm all set.

> The Hurtin'

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--we merely expect them to try."
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