On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, brian fish wrote:

> Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should be like
> spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!

You mean a Wu Shu Jien, or Chinese Broadsword? :) Anyways, they're
probably something similar to the Rapier, actually, or +0 and +3 or
something like that ;)

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Is this a computer game?
If so, I'll have to get my hands on it. Just another RPG to tide me over
until the realease of Diablo II.

I can't quite put my my brain around the idea of a Street Fighter RPG
computer game. How would that work?
THoughts?

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| It's a Diablo-style RPG by Nihilistic Software based on White Wolf's
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| run your own chronicles, and an editing kit will be released next week
| to let you make your own levels/NPCS/whatever.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
| Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:12 PM
| To: streetfighter@egroups.com
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| What game is this??
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| >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
| >Subject: [streetfighter] Vampire: Redemption
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just as a note, when I got my wife into Street Fighter she requested a
Wu Shu swordswoman. I made her a fairly straightforward character with
3 dots in Sword and a Chinese broadsword using the stats from Contenders
for a regular Broadsword (-1/+4/+0 I think).

Quite simply, the woman kicked ass. ;)

Well, until the players got slaughtered by a platoon of Battle Droids,
but hey. No one's perfect.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, brian fish wrote:

> Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should be
like
> spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!

You mean a Wu Shu Jien, or Chinese Broadsword? :) Anyways, they're
probably something similar to the Rapier, actually, or +0 and +3 or
something like that ;)

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Yes, it is. It just came out last week. More info can be found at
www.planetvampire.com

Be warned, though; it's a hefty install. minimum install is 720 megs,
average is 950, and full is 1.25 gig.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Chagnon [mailto:seagull@...]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:12 AM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Vampire: Redemption


Is this a computer game?
If so, I'll have to get my hands on it. Just another RPG to tide me over
until the realease of Diablo II.

I can't quite put my my brain around the idea of a Street Fighter RPG
computer game. How would that work?
THoughts?

_______________________________________________________
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seagull@... make you a better person."
seagull@... - Peter Olafson

----- Original Message -----
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To: <streetfighter@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Vampire: Redemption


|
| It's a Diablo-style RPG by Nihilistic Software based on White Wolf's
| Vampire: The Masquerade. It even has a multiplayer mode that lets you
| run your own chronicles, and an editing kit will be released next week
| to let you make your own levels/NPCS/whatever.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Robert Pascuttini [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
| Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:12 PM
| To: streetfighter@egroups.com
| Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Vampire: Redemption
|
|
| What game is this??
|
|
| >From: Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...>
| >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
| >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
| >Subject: [streetfighter] Vampire: Redemption
| >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:59:54 -0400
| >
| >
| >this game rocks. The Storyteller mode is pure genius. I wonder if
we
| >can lobby for a Street Fighter version? :)
| >
| >Stephen Karstensen
| >Applications Consultant
| >Concurrent Technologies
| >(908)604-6100 x216
| >
| >Warning, this is a plot complication!
| >Warning, this is a plot complication!
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Fred Chagnon wrote:

> Is this a computer game?
> If so, I'll have to get my hands on it. Just another RPG to tide me over
> until the realease of Diablo II.
>
> I can't quite put my my brain around the idea of a Street Fighter RPG
> computer game. How would that work?
> THoughts?

Well, Tobal No. 1 (and 2, for that matter) has a quest mode. I'd guess
that a good way to do it might be to use the basic premise for Tobal No. 1
(run around somewhere, fighting encounters), getting XP to increase your
techniques, as well as having masters teach you new maneuvers (like 36
Chambers of Shaolin did on the Amiga). You might also include something
like an edit mode of your moves, so that you could exchange the moves you
had available on your pad/joystick/whatever with new moves, when and if
they became available.

Personally, I thing it might work out quite nicely.

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>Une autre qui parle francais!
>Just out of curiosity are there any other Canadians? Sometimes I feel so
>alone. :)
>

You not alone Fred, after all I AM CANADIAN! (sorry, its from a beer
comercial.)

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--- Steve Karstensen <skarstensen@...> wrote:

>
> then explain a *regular* knife's +2 Speed bonus to me. That one's
> puzzled me since day one...

Because regular knives are actually conduits of incredible mystical power that
magically pull your arm forward when you stab.

Or you could do what I did and give it Speed +0 and Damage +1.

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> | sure!
> | I am from France, and Sf:Stg reached Paris in 94 or 95, I think!
>
> Une autre qui parle francais!
> Just out of curiosity are there any other Canadians? Sometimes I feel so
> alone. :)

I'm not Canadian, but occasionally when I go beyond my back yard I become an
illegal alien there...

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Hey, that's more entertaining to me than every Ranma episode ever made:

Cold water!! Crap I'm a chick! (Or a duck or a monkey or a pig, or some
other non sense)

I'm gonna kill you!!!

Warm water, oh ok I'm back.. . . .

OK, now how do we fix this??

But look at the Other weapons, Katana is +1 (slower than a Tai Chi sword in
real life), Rapier is +2, Katar and Kris are +2 (why I dunno), Knife is +2.
. . . . . .

>
>--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:
>> Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should be like
>> spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!
>
>Oh, come on. Unless the weapon is self-propelled (like a spring knife),
>there's no way it should _add_ to your speed. Your saying that your hand

moves

>faster while holding a pound or so of metal than when it's empty? At best

the

>difference is negligable (+0). Can't comment on the damage though...

The Chinese name for it esapes me, its not the braodsword, but a very
light, kinda thin, rather short, straight bladed sword, it uses movements
very similar to fencing techniques (lots of wrist twists with very small
arm movements), it's actually my fav oriental weapon, even more than a
katana, kinda funny since I semi know how to use a katana. . . . . . . .

>Variable Geo good? Just so you know it is a bad anime based on >a semi amusing hentai game, where women fight and the loser >loses her clothes. Good premise no? well they screwed it up..

Actually it's a level of humiliation equal to how bad the loser loses. (taking off clothes is just low level stuff ^^;;) , but the anime doesn't go too deep.

>and tried to make it cleaner and the plot made no sense.

Then you weren't paying attention or giving it a chance.

Variable Geo is one of the best animes based on a fighting game. It's actually very good (dramatic, well drawn, and intense implementation). If you don't think a good show could be made from that concept, you'll be pleasantly surprised. I never would have expected it.
I highly recommend it to everyone (but you need a good sense of humor - it is all after all based on an adult videogame). Good view of shadowy actions behind tournaments. Everyone won't like it, but I think anyone to whom it sounds interesting will like it. It's just fun.
It's not perverted enough to be considered a pervert anime though (there's some nudity but not much more than that).

>and as for Fist of the North Star Steve beat me to it.

Heh, it's a hacky slashy anime. I've never seen the whole thing so I can't really make an informed comment. I think the move Dim Mak can represent the whole "your head will explode in 5 seconds" pretty well.

Tony

>Variable Geo good? Just so you know it is a bad anime based on >a semi amusing hentai game, where women fight and the loser >loses her clothes. Good premise no? well they screwed it up..

Actually, it's a level of humiliation equal to how bad the loser loses. Taking off clothes is just low level stuff (^^;;), but the anime doesn't go too deep.

>and tried to make it cleaner and the plot made no sense.

Then you weren't paying attention or giving it a chance.

Variable Geo is one of the best animes based on a fighting game. It's actually very good (dramatic, well drawn, and intense implementation). If you don't think a good show could be made from that concept, you'll be pleasantly surprised. I never would have expected it.
I highly recommend it to everyone (but you need a good sense of humor - it is all after all based on an adult videogame). Good view of shadowy actions behind tournaments. Everyone won't like it, but I think anyone to whom it sounds interesting will like it. It's just fun.
It's not perverted enough to be considered a pervert anime though (there's some nudity but not much more than that).

>and as for Fist of the North Star Steve beat me to it.

Heh, it's a hacky slashy anime. I've never seen the whole thing so I can't really make an informed comment. I think the move Dim Mak can represent the whole "your head will explode in 5 seconds" pretty well.

Tony

I had some ideas for a street fighter game a la most early role playing
games. You could travel to cities and you would have a number of options,
Challenge the world warrior, train at the dojo, work out at the gym, etc.
The fights could be alpha 3 ish, I dunno why no one has thought of it yet.
. . .

>Is this a computer game?
>If so, I'll have to get my hands on it. Just another RPG to tide me over
>until the realease of Diablo II.
>
>I can't quite put my my brain around the idea of a Street Fighter RPG
>computer game. How would that work?
>THoughts?

...and just how many episodes *have* you seen? They stop recycling that
plot after, oh, episode three of the first season.

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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:01 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Another Weird Question


Hey, that's more entertaining to me than every Ranma episode ever made:

Cold water!! Crap I'm a chick! (Or a duck or a monkey or a pig, or some
other non sense)

I'm gonna kill you!!!

Warm water, oh ok I'm back.. . . .

OK, now how do we fix this??


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I just figured it out. The reason why these weapons have, in essence,
the same Speed rating as a Jab is because when you attack with a
stabbing weapon you're pretty much making the same hand motion as a Jab.
And since you don't have to put as much of your own strength behind it,
you don't need to "wind up", hence the Maneuver bonus on top of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:04 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.


But look at the Other weapons, Katana is +1 (slower than a Tai Chi sword
in
real life), Rapier is +2, Katar and Kris are +2 (why I dunno), Knife is
+2.
. . . . . .

>
>--- brian fish <fishbn@...> wrote:
>> Like the Tai Chi sword, NO WAY that thing is speed -1, it should be

like

>> spd +1 or 2, damage +2, those things are BAD ASS!!
>
>Oh, come on. Unless the weapon is self-propelled (like a spring

knife),

>there's no way it should _add_ to your speed. Your saying that your

hand
moves

>faster while holding a pound or so of metal than when it's empty? At

best
the

>difference is negligable (+0). Can't comment on the damage though...

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I think I know what weapon you're talking about. I'll ask my wife for
the Chinese name.

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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:07 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.


The Chinese name for it esapes me, its not the braodsword, but a very
light, kinda thin, rather short, straight bladed sword, it uses
movements
very similar to fencing techniques (lots of wrist twists with very small
arm movements), it's actually my fav oriental weapon, even more than a
katana, kinda funny since I semi know how to use a katana. . . . . . . .


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"I think the move Dim Mak can represent the whole "your head will
explode in 5 seconds" pretty well."

I was bored and came up with stats for the "Your head will explode"
thing. It required Dim Mak as a prereq. :)

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Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Re: Another Weird Question

>Variable Geo good? Just so you know it is a bad anime based on >a semi

amusing hentai game, where women fight and the loser >loses her clothes.
Good premise no? well they screwed it up..

Actually it's a level of humiliation equal to how bad the loser loses.
(taking off clothes is just low level stuff ^^;;) , but the anime
doesn't go too deep.

>and tried to make it cleaner and the plot made no sense.

Then you weren't paying attention or giving it a chance.

Variable Geo is one of the best animes based on a fighting game. It's
actually very good (dramatic, well drawn, and intense implementation).
If you don't think a good show could be made from that concept, you'll
be pleasantly surprised. I never would have expected it.
I highly recommend it to everyone (but you need a good sense of humor -
it is all after all based on an adult videogame). Good view of shadowy
actions behind tournaments. Everyone won't like it, but I think anyone
to whom it sounds interesting will like it. It's just fun.
It's not perverted enough to be considered a pervert anime though
(there's some nudity but not much more than that).

>and as for Fist of the North Star Steve beat me to it.

Heh, it's a hacky slashy anime. I've never seen the whole thing so I
can't really make an informed comment. I think the move Dim Mak can
represent the whole "your head will explode in 5 seconds" pretty well.

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In a message dated 6/16/2000 12:04:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
fishbn@... writes:

>
> But look at the Other weapons, Katana is +1 (slower than a Tai Chi sword
> in
> real life), Rapier is +2, Katar and Kris are +2 (why I dunno), Knife is +2.
> . . . . . .

Well, the speed bonus might be used to represent reach. After all, you
don't have to move so far to wollop someone over the head with a quarterstaff
than with your feet.

In a message dated 6/16/00 1:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
skarstensen@... writes:

<< I was bored and came up with stats for the "Your head will explode"
thing. It required Dim Mak as a prereq. :)

>>

:::grins::: would you be so kind as to send us these stats? i would love
them. hehehehehehe

I would, if I didn't look at them an hour later, say "this is a really
stupid ability to give someone", and then ditch them.

;)

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To: streetfighter@egroups.com
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In a message dated 6/16/00 1:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
skarstensen@... writes:

<< I was bored and came up with stats for the "Your head will explode"
thing. It required Dim Mak as a prereq. :)

>>

:::grins::: would you be so kind as to send us these stats? i would love

them. hehehehehehe

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--- In streetfighter@egroups.com, Chris Hoffmann <staredown@r...>
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> --- Fred Chagnon <seagull@a...> wrote:
> > | sure!
> > | I am from France, and Sf:Stg reached Paris in 94 or 95, I think!
> >
> > Une autre qui parle francais!
> > Just out of curiosity are there any other Canadians? Sometimes I

feel so

> > alone. :)
>
> I'm not Canadian, but occasionally when I go beyond my back yard I

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Isn´t Jiann the name of weapon? Is chinese long sword used with "fencing".

Steve Karstensen wrote:

> I think I know what weapon you're talking about. I'll ask my wife for
> the Chinese name.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian fish [mailto:fishbn@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 1:07 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Ages Missing Fighters.
>
> The Chinese name for it esapes me, its not the braodsword, but a very
> light, kinda thin, rather short, straight bladed sword, it uses
> movements
> very similar to fencing techniques (lots of wrist twists with very small
> arm movements), it's actually my fav oriental weapon, even more than a
> katana, kinda funny since I semi know how to use a katana. . . . . . . .
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Absolutely. And remember, you don't lose honor for the
Dizzy itself, and Dizzies can turn the tables in any
fight... say your opponent is in the middle of a big
Combo, and you want to stop him before he gets to the
really nasty maneuver... Heart Punch is perfect. Pow,
he stops dead in his tracks.

And you dont have to attack while he's Dizzy. There
are plenty of other things you can do, like move away,
Regenerate, pull a knife or do the achey-breaky.

PS: If your opponent did the achey-breaky I think you
would be within your rights to pull a knife ;)

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> But it doesnt matter outside of the tournament.
> YOu wont lose any honour. And its a matter of what
> you are willing to risk.
> Some fighters know it not honorable but will do it
> anyway. They can gain
> there honour other places.
>
>
> >From: firefirefi@...
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >I'm in the camp that says the Heart Punch is pretty
> useless too, at least
> >for
> >Players. You need Honor, and you don't get honor by
> hitting dizzied
> >opponents.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yasuharu Konishi [mailto:robotomizer@...]
>
> And you dont have to attack while he's Dizzy. There
> are plenty of other things you can do, like move away,
> Regenerate, pull a knife or do the achey-breaky.
>
> PS: If your opponent did the achey-breaky I think you
> would be within your rights to pull a knife ;)
>
>

Great, I can just see it now.....

The Achy-Breaky Heart Punch........

<Quickly retreats back under his rock>


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| And you dont have to attack while he's Dizzy. There
| are plenty of other things you can do, like move away,
| Regenerate, pull a knife or do the achey-breaky.

The Heart Punch is considered by most, a dirty move...much like the ear pop.
Just because you don't buffalo punch your dizzied opponent into next week,
does not mean that you wouldn't lose honor for using the Heart Punch
initially.

I think that the use of the heart punch itself constitutes the honor
penalty...depending on whether it's inside or outside the ring of course.

(My fighter tends to fight quite dirty outside the ring :P)


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I saw a show called Strange Universe that featured a
bunch of guys lifting weights with their... uh...
little buddies. They said it was an art called "Chi
Kung" Apparently they attach the weights with a hook
(ow!) or slipknot (ow!) while squatting over them,
then stand up straight, pulling the weights off the
ground with them. They only hold it up for a few
moments before squatting again. They said it also gave
them increased sexual stamina and could even make
their, y'know, a little longer... It was absolutely
insane.

So what do they do, apply the Dit Da Jow ointment to
their... uh... little buddies? I bet it tingles :)

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> Nope Im talking about maka Wara. The Chi Kung
> toughening also uses the
> Dit dat jow. Same effect different process.
> Maka wara is just the japanese way of saying it.
>
>
> >From: Steve Karstensen
> <skarstensen@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:10:05 -0400
> >
> >
> >I think the type of toughening you're referring to
> here is what winds up
> >as Toughskin in the game. 1 Chi = +2 Soak. Maka
> Wara is a weird one...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini
> [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
> >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:48 PM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> >
> >
> >Hey ..
> >Actually no. It doesnt just harden the tissue. This
> one of the reasons
> >I was saying earlier that Body toughing is a tricky
> area.
> >Bones grow and change just like flesh and Chi Kung
> trains body toughing
> >without hardening the skin.
> >
> >
> > >Yep... and it should probably be assumed that
> Maka Wara not only
> >hardens
> > >your tissue (and/or kills nerve endings,) but
> also teaches you to put
> >that
> > >hardened tissue in the way of Punches and Kicks
> (Trivia Fact: many Muay
> >
> > >Thai veterans are crippled by the age of 30)
> > >
> > > >I'm just saying that many martial [arts] teach
> you to take a step
> >when
> > >you block so that you're not absorbing the full
> force of the attack.
> >This
> > >could also be a good excuse for the +2 speed
> after Block if you block,
> >your
> > >blocking throws them off balance, so you go
> before they do on the next
> > >round.
> > >
> > >Yes again... what was it that Bruce Lee said? To
> paraphrase: "A good
> > >kung-fu man should always be like water. Try to
> hit it... it moves out
> >of
> > >the way. Try to grab it... it slips through your
> fingers." Of course,
> >with
> > >Maka Wara you aren't necessarily trying to get
> out of the way, but your
> >
> > >training compensates for that.
> > >
> > >
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The film "Dragon from Shaolin" offers us a similar scene, where two
ten-year-old boys put on a Kung Fu show for a crowd, and one of them
starts spinning a brick tied to a string from his Old Fella.

Apparently, Chi Kung covers far more ground than mere healing and
meditation.

And yes, I'm sure if you attached a honking great weight to John Thomas
it'd make him longer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Yasuharu Konishi [mailto:robotomizer@...]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 4:07 PM
To: streetfighter@egroups.com
Subject: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!


I saw a show called Strange Universe that featured a
bunch of guys lifting weights with their... uh...
little buddies. They said it was an art called "Chi
Kung" Apparently they attach the weights with a hook
(ow!) or slipknot (ow!) while squatting over them,
then stand up straight, pulling the weights off the
ground with them. They only hold it up for a few
moments before squatting again. They said it also gave
them increased sexual stamina and could even make
their, y'know, a little longer... It was absolutely
insane.

So what do they do, apply the Dit Da Jow ointment to
their... uh... little buddies? I bet it tingles :)

--- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...> wrote:

> Nope Im talking about maka Wara. The Chi Kung
> toughening also uses the
> Dit dat jow. Same effect different process.
> Maka wara is just the japanese way of saying it.
>
>
> >From: Steve Karstensen
> <skarstensen@...>
> >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:10:05 -0400
> >
> >
> >I think the type of toughening you're referring to
> here is what winds up
> >as Toughskin in the game. 1 Chi = +2 Soak. Maka
> Wara is a weird one...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Pascuttini
> [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
> >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:48 PM
> >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> >
> >
> >Hey ..
> >Actually no. It doesnt just harden the tissue. This
> one of the reasons
> >I was saying earlier that Body toughing is a tricky
> area.
> >Bones grow and change just like flesh and Chi Kung
> trains body toughing
> >without hardening the skin.
> >
> >
> > >Yep... and it should probably be assumed that
> Maka Wara not only
> >hardens
> > >your tissue (and/or kills nerve endings,) but
> also teaches you to put
> >that
> > >hardened tissue in the way of Punches and Kicks
> (Trivia Fact: many Muay
> >
> > >Thai veterans are crippled by the age of 30)
> > >
> > > >I'm just saying that many martial [arts] teach
> you to take a step
> >when
> > >you block so that you're not absorbing the full
> force of the attack.
> >This
> > >could also be a good excuse for the +2 speed
> after Block if you block,
> >your
> > >blocking throws them off balance, so you go
> before they do on the next
> > >round.
> > >
> > >Yes again... what was it that Bruce Lee said? To
> paraphrase: "A good
> > >kung-fu man should always be like water. Try to
> hit it... it moves out
> >of
> > >the way. Try to grab it... it slips through your
> fingers." Of course,
> >with
> > >Maka Wara you aren't necessarily trying to get
> out of the way, but your
> >
> > >training compensates for that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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(temporarily speechless)

...anyway, I am by no means fluent in Chinese, but
doesn't Chi Kung translate into something like Energy
Form? I bet mind over matter has a lot to do with it.

(deftly changing the subject)

When I think of Maka Wara, the thing that comes to
mind is the scene from KICKBOXER in which Van Damme
hears a noise and sees dust falling from the ceiling.
He investigates and discovers the noise is Tong Po
repeatedly kicking a concrete support beam, causing
the entire building to tremble...

Since Maka Wara requires Block 4, your soak is already
huge (when you Block, you hardly feel it) and it ends
up hurting the guy who's hitting you more than it
hurts you. If Chi Kung and Maka Wara mean the same
thing, then it would also be a mind over matter thing
in addition to any secret herbs or spices...

Although I'm still laughing trying to imagine the
process of applying Dit Da Jow to your third arm :)

--- Steve Karstensen
<skarstensen@...> wrote:

>
> The film "Dragon from Shaolin" offers us a similar
> scene, where two
> ten-year-old boys put on a Kung Fu show for a crowd,
> and one of them
> starts spinning a brick tied to a string from his
> Old Fella.
>
> Apparently, Chi Kung covers far more ground than
> mere healing and
> meditation.
>
> And yes, I'm sure if you attached a honking great
> weight to John Thomas
> it'd make him longer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yasuharu Konishi
> [mailto:robotomizer@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 4:07 PM
> To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> Subject: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
>
>
> I saw a show called Strange Universe that featured a
> bunch of guys lifting weights with their... uh...
> little buddies. They said it was an art called "Chi
> Kung" Apparently they attach the weights with a hook
> (ow!) or slipknot (ow!) while squatting over them,
> then stand up straight, pulling the weights off the
> ground with them. They only hold it up for a few
> moments before squatting again. They said it also
> gave
> them increased sexual stamina and could even make
> their, y'know, a little longer... It was absolutely
> insane.
>
> So what do they do, apply the Dit Da Jow ointment to
> their... uh... little buddies? I bet it tingles :)
>
> --- Robert Pascuttini <rpascuttini@...>
> wrote:
> > Nope Im talking about maka Wara. The Chi Kung
> > toughening also uses the
> > Dit dat jow. Same effect different process.
> > Maka wara is just the japanese way of saying it.
> >
> >
> > >From: Steve Karstensen
> > <skarstensen@...>
> > >Reply-To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> > >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:10:05 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >I think the type of toughening you're referring
> to
> > here is what winds up
> > >as Toughskin in the game. 1 Chi = +2 Soak. Maka
> > Wara is a weird one...
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Robert Pascuttini
> > [mailto:rpascuttini@...]
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:48 PM
> > >To: streetfighter@egroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [streetfighter] Block vs. Athletics!
> > >
> > >
> > >Hey ..
> > >Actually no. It doesnt just harden the tissue.
> This
> > one of the reasons
> > >I was saying earlier that Body toughing is a
> tricky
> > area.
> > >Bones grow and change just like flesh and Chi
> Kung
> > trains body toughing
> > >without hardening the skin.
> > >
> > >
> > > >Yep... and it should probably be assumed that
> > Maka Wara not only
> > >hardens
> > > >your tissue (and/or kills nerve endings,) but
> > also teaches you to put
> > >that
> > > >hardened tissue in the way of Punches and Kicks
> > (Trivia Fact: many Muay
> > >
> > > >Thai veterans are crippled by the age of 30)
> > > >
> > > > >I'm just saying that many martial [arts]
> teach
> > you to take a step
> > >when
> > > >you block so that you're not absorbing the full
> > force of the attack.
> > >This
> > > >could also be a good excuse for the +2 speed
> > after Block if you block,
> > >your
> > > >blocking throws them off balance, so you go
> > before they do on the next
> > > >round.
> > > >
> > > >Yes again... what was it that Bruce Lee said?
> To
> > paraphrase: "A good
> > > >kung-fu man should always be like water. Try to
> > hit it... it moves out
> > >of
> > > >the way. Try to grab it... it slips through
> your
> > fingers." Of course,
> > >with
> > > >Maka Wara you aren't necessarily trying to get
> > out of the way, but your
> > >
> > > >training compensates for that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Really? Just because of the Dizzy? A Buffalo Punch has
the same chance to Dizzy, and is only slightly
slower... and it does real damage. I just think if you
behave honorably afterwards, Heart Punch isn't
dishonorable... Just a matter of opinion I guess. No
big whoop :)

--- Fred Chagnon <seagull@...> wrote:

> The Heart Punch is considered by most, a dirty
> move...much like the ear pop.
> Just because you don't buffalo punch your dizzied
> opponent into next week,
> does not mean that you wouldn't lose honor for using
> the Heart Punch
> initially.
>
> I think that the use of the heart punch itself
> constitutes the honor
> penalty...depending on whether it's inside or
> outside the ring of course.

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